Adolfo,
I've read up the comments in the PCC-list archive on this topic.
I like the practice of UCSD (I quote from Ryan Finnerty's mail): "UCSD
does not use CCTs when the works in a compilation are issued for the
first time in that compilation. Examples include an original book of
poems by one author, or a new collection of short stories, essays, etc.
In cases of doubt whether something has been previously separately
published, do not add a CCT."
I think the interesting point to note is that not everything which
consists of several works by the same person is in fact a "compilation
of works". Rather, in the case of a new book of e.g. poems or short
stories, the author will think of this as *one* individual creation,
i.e. *one* work, even if the bits it contains themselves can also be
thought of as works. "Compilation" seems to imply that the things which
are put together had some sort of independent existence before (at least
this is my impression as a non-native speaker). This is not true if they
were created especially for the collection.
So I would daringly argue that these cases do not fall under 6.2.2.10 at
all. Therefore, we do not even have to *think* about whether these
things are known bei their own title or not. They aren't compilations,
so they cannot get a conventional collective title. Instead, they should
be treated as "ordinary" works.
The German RAK rules, by the way, have an explicit rule to treat a book
of poetry as a single work (§ 5,2).
Heidrun
Hi Adam,
I believe you have mischaracterized the opinions expressed on PCC list. I
believe many have expressed a disagreement with LC practice and are not
following it. For example, at UCSD not only are we not following LC practice
for the master record, we are actively removing the CCTs for our local records.
Adolfo
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I've asked just this question on the PCC list, since the policy statement that
covers this is labeled LC practice. So far I've only heard back from a few
libraries, but they are following LC practice. Which makes sense when you
consider that much of the copy for cataloging that we get comes from LC, and we
don't have the staffing to redo what they do.
Therefore we will be getting and accepting many records that have these
conventional collective titles, and any original cataloging records that we
might create according to a different local practice would be just a drop in
the bucket of all the records in our catalog.
Adam
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:08:42 +0100
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Adam,
These examples all seem to follow LC's interpretation of the first
sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10, i.e. none of these collections was treated
as being known under its own title.
So, is it correct to assume that LC's rather extreme interpretation
(that a collection can only become known by its own title over the
course of time) is at present widely followed, although Kevin Randall
and others have raised objections?
I've noticed that in the NACO training module 6
http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-RDA/Module%206-Describing%
20Works%20and%20Expressions.pptx there is no detailed explanation of
how the first sentence of RDA 6.2.2.10 is to be understood (slide 38).
So I'm not sure whether all PCC libraries follow LC's practice here.
Heidrun
Adam L. Schiff wrote:
Nicephorus, $c Blemmydes, $d 1197-1272. $t Works. $k Selections
(Oeuvres
theologiques)
Rupert, $c of Deutz, $d approximately 1075-1129. $t Works. $k
Selections (Opera apologetica)
Talmage, James E. $q (James Edward), $d 1862-1933. $t Works. $k
Selections (Beginner's guide to Talmage)
William, $c of Auvergne, Bishop of Paris, $d 1180-1249. $t Works. $k
Selections (Opera homiletica)
Council of Trent $d (1545-1563 : $c Trento, Italy). $t Works. $k
Selections (Documentos ineditos tridentinos sobre la justificacion)
Smith, Joseph, $c Jr., $d 1805-1844. $t Works. $k Selections
(Personal writings of Joseph Smith)
Smith, Joseph, $c Jr., $d 1805-1844. $t Works. $k Selections
(Essential Joseph Smith)
Adam
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