I wish bob and the boyz good luck on this product. Always support North American companies!!

I do not have much experience in the all in ones, but the one thing I would look for is how it responds to imbalance on split phase loads. The bad experiences on (won't say the Chinese name of inverter) was it had trouble starting a fire pump that was 120vac. it also had trouble with large 120vac air compressors. Even worse, not only did it have trouble starting the load, it shut down the inverter. I would not want that for sure it the fire was raging up the hill.

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On 2024-04-10 9:02 pm, Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches wrote:

I was under the same impression as David. At one point when I looked into it all the electrical specifications appeared identical. Lux isn't made by Deye? Ripping off designs within China isn't just exclusive to the US? Good ole inverter manufacturer family incest? Does the main difference only relate to AGS controls or something along those lines? Even that is within the Lux products, Envy and EG4? I'm not into either personally but was dragged into a Solark system two years ago. Doing my best to keep my back strong with transformer based inverters until I can support Midnite.

Nick

On Apr 10, 2024, at 10:00 AM, jay via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

Hi David,

I'm going to disagree.
The fortress and EG4 are made by LUX.
It says so right on the cover.
And I've talked to Fortress about this.

Sol Ark is made by Deye

Jay

On Apr 10, 2024, at 10:12 AM, david quattro <da...@quattrosolar.com> wrote:

I have not installed an Fortress yet, but I know they are made by Deye (same Chinese original manufacturer as SolArk inverters) Here is a link for an excellent instructional by Steve Higgins @ Rolls - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqBULN9MgI&pp=ygUWcm9sbHMgc3VycmV0dGUgaGlnZ2lucw%3D%3D This assumes that Envy comes with the same programming shortcoming as SolArk, I don't know. In order to effectively use a SolArk with lead acid batteries you have trick it. This process takes several iterations checking specific gravity, which means multiple site visits stretched over perhaps a couple months. The Absorb setting is ineffectual, so Steve's solution is to employ the Equalize setting to actually achieve Absorption. Carefully record the settings (voltage, duration, and frequency) that deliver a consistent specific gravity in range. On the rare occasions you actually need to equalize, you do it in person. When equalization is complete you return the settings back to your curated values.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:28 AM jay via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: Can you explain what changes the eg4 18 inverter has vs the Envy as to LA programming?

To me the Envy has a big advantage due to it having AGS warm up/cool down that the EG4 does not.

Jay

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