Hi Tim,

Could you give an example of what you consider to be a non-judgemental,
helpful to reconciliation, unhypocritical contribution to the list, and
perhaps an example of a contributer being "villified" for  having an
"incorrect" attitude----without writing anything that you are convinced is
right, of course.

As it stands, to my eye ,your criticism of  the list has a large dose of the
"when are you going to stop beating your wife" about it----of course, I'm
not convinced I am right about any of this, so I feel my contribution is
acceptable :-).

Laurie.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tim dunlop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll


> As much as I enjoy some of the discussion on this list (not that there is
> much these days) and the endless supply of interesting info, it is also a
> place that exhibits some of the most amazing narrow-mindedness.  Some of
the
> judgemental comments that are made about "ordinary Australians" would be
> considered unacceptable if they were made about just about any other
> "ethnic" group.
>
> Everyone from Liberal voters to those who have some misgivings about ATSIC
> have been vilified here for "incorrect" attitudes.  A bit of this is
> inevitable, and I've been guilty of it myself (I was, for instance, a
> complete arsehole to Lance some time back and caused him to leave, an
> exchange that brings me no credit).
>
> But as an overall impression, I find a lot of what is said here to be a
> positive hindrance to reconciliation, and just plain hypocritical.  There
is
> a party line that is enforced and woebetide anyone who goes against it, as
> can be evidenced by the odd person who has been kicked off, the odd one
who
> has left voluntarily and the even larger number who have simply given up
> commenting (and by the number of off-list comments I have received over
the
> years).
>
> To be serious about the political projects this list purports to support
it
> might just be useful for it to find another language for discussing and
> engaging with those who disagree, and not use stupid "opinion polls" and
> comments on aus.politics as indicative of what everybody else thinks.
> Life's more complicated than that, and if we were serious, we'd find less
> simplistic ways of discussing these things.  We'd also be a little less
> convinced that what we think is always right.
>
> Tim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trudy Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll
>
>
> > Tim, you spend too much time in academe and not enough on aus.politics.
> :-)
> >
>
>
>
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