The Congress and the President that enacted RFRA thought, rightly or wrongly, that there was a palpable, and not lurking, constitutional error.  On that point I agree with that Congress and that President.  But even if there were an error on the constitutional point, it does not matter, unless your position is that Congress cannot, in the exercise of policy-based discretion, decide that the Courts have to do the job that Roberts’ wry comments referred to.  In any event, the Court ruled 8-0 that Congress could.

 

Your basic objection, which you have repeated many times, is, if I have it right, that a number of police power health, safety and regulatory concerns properly, if not necessasrily, trump the autonomy claims of religious individuals and persons.  That may or may not be right, but surely doesn’t Congress get to decide whether this is true or not either as a general proposition or in specific cases?  After all Congress is the source of the relevant regulatory regimes in the first place.

 

I don’t know how important it is that minors drink the tea.  Why is drinking it per se bad for minors, or for anybody else?  It is only bad because Congress said it was, at least as a general proposition.  However, Congress can properly decide to allow for a little play in the joints, can’t it?  You seem to want to hem in Congress’ policy discretion on matters of this sort, and there is no Constitutional basis for doing so.  If Congress passes bad – but constitutional – laws, then the answer is to elect a different Congress.  

 

 

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:49 PM
To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu
Subject: Re: Breaking news in federal RFRA case

 

I am not going to belabor the point, Marty, but I strongly disagree with your interpretation of the application of standards of review.  The strict scrutiny standard puts the courts in the business of second-guessing legislative judgment, normally where there is a lurking constitutional violation.  RFRA strict scrutiny is not triggered by any lurking constitutional error, but rather bare second-guessing.  Trying to normalize what RFRA demands -- imposition of a constitutional standard of review through legislation (which is only reflected in RLUIPA) is a mistake in my view.

 

In this case in particular, the inadequacies of the courts are shown.  The Supreme Court was in no position to investigate whether this drug is different from peyote, or, more importantly from my point of view, whether the drug is routinely given to minors (as it is).  Had this specific exemption request been part of a legislative inquiry, the regular use by minors could have been taken into account, and, I presume, the compelling interest for denying its use documented.  There was no place for such an inquiry in the Court's appellate review.  In any event, the Court is absolutely right that the federal government asked for it, and here they have it.

 

Marci

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2006 12:29:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I know we've been over this ground many times, but perhaps it's still worth clarifying:

 

It's not a delegation of a "policy" decision -- it's asking the courts to apply a legal standard.  For instance, in this case, it was Congress that decided that the sky would not fall with the peyote exemption, and the federal government that failed to explain why the harms in this case would be any worse or different than in the peyote case.  This was basic analogic reasoning, applying a statutory standard -- everyday stuff for the judiciary.  Nor was it beyond the Court's ken to conclude -- correctly -- that the exemption would not be required if the treaty-based consequences would be severe, but that the government had not demonstrated that the consequences of breaching the treaty would in fact be as draconian as the State Department alleged.

 

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