Ya'll know as much as I do about what the paging equipment is.  I'm working
with limited knowledge. only what gets passed on to me from the owner.

 

I'll ask about that, as well as the exciter frequencies.

 

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter & VHF Public
Service Band

 

  

I would look at the exciter freq on the uhf paging transmitter. 

It would help with some info on the paging transmitters. Model and such.

-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter & VHF Public
Service Band

A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience
interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz),
with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower. The repeater
itself is an Advanced Communications System KRP-5000 running 35 watts
through a set of 4 WACOM cans. The feedline is 7/8" hardline feeding a
DB-224. All jumpers are RG-214 MILSPEC with MILSPEC connectors. This
system has been in service for years and has never given us any problems,
and we are the only ones at the site.

To be clear, the interference we are experiencing is clearly audible on the
repeater input. I have the capability to monitor via telephone and have
heard it on the receiver, and I've also traveled to the site and heard the
interference on my mobile radio hooked to the repeater antenna. The
interference is also audible on the input in various locations around town.
Also, the interference can be heard on the input regardless of whether or
not the repeater transmitter is on. It also continued to be present during
several days of continuous heavy rain. 

The interference typically shows up at least once a day, although some days
(rarely) it does not show up at all and other days it will show up several
times. Lately, it's been making an appearance around 10 a.m. and hangs
around for an hour or two. As it begins to disappear, it sounds as though
it is moving off frequency. 

This interference has also been heard on at least two other repeaters in the
area. One is about 22 air-miles from the 146.85 machine and is on 145.110
(-600 KHz). It has also been heard on or near the output frequency of that
machine, and one evening I tracked it from about 145.120 to 145.190 as it
swept through each transmission. The other repeater it has been heard on is
147.300 (+600 KHz). I also have reports from a neighboring county a
ham/deputy sheriff there has been hearing it on VHF public safety
frequencies. As you can see, it's all over the place.

I've been working with the owner of a local paging company and we can
clearly tell that the data we're hearing is coming from 152.480 and 462.775.
He has two sites (about 20 miles apart) that simulcasts on both frequencies
and when those transmitters are active it's easy to tell that the data is
the same. He also tells me that he can key each transmitter separately and
the data from each transmitter will be heard on our repeater. We also
believe that there are other systems on nearby frequencies that are being
heard on our repeater, specifically 462.850 and 462.925.

I've run IMD numbers on everything I can think of, but can't come up with a
common thread. For it to be moving all through the 2-meter band and for it
to be mixing with several different frequencies, it seems to me that it's
got to be very ugly and unstable. What am I missing here?

Mike
WM4B

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