Hi,

70 watts out sounds OK.  Duplexer's usually have about a 1 - 2db loss
depends how they are set up, size of cavities etc and the model type.

Duplexer  loss   = 10log(Pin/Pout)      Duplexer  Loss  = 10Log(70/100)    =
-1.54dB.


Peter

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, W3ML <w...@arrl.net> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Joe.
>
> We did most of those and then found the problem. The T-connector center pin
> had broken off when we apparently hooked up some test equipment and did not
> notice it.
>
> I still have one question though.
>
> Is it normal to have 100 watts coming out of radio and only 70 watts coming
> out of duplexer?
>
> Wacom 6 can type duplexer.
>
> That seems to be quite a loss. Again I appreciate all the help.
>
> 73
> John, W3ML
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Joe <k1ike_m...@...> wrote:
> >
> > What make and model is the duplexer? I know of one instance that the
> > loop inside the duplexer can come disconnected due to a bad solder
> > joint, but can't remember what one it was. A search on this list should
> > find it, as it was discussed recently.
> >
> > The first thing would be to check all connections for tightness. Do not
> > over-tighten the connections! Just make sure that they are snug. If
> > your knuckles are turning white, your tightening too much. N
> > connectors need to be snug, UHF connectors need to be a little tighter,
> > but not cranked down tight, but not until they break.
> >
> > What you can do is take the connecting cables off the transmit side cans
> > and test the first one for power out. Then connect the next can in
> > series and see if there is output from that can. This process should
> > isolate the bad can(s). Disconnect the receiver while doing this just
> > to be safe. MARK all the cables as to where they came from. Do not mix
> > them up. It may be a bad cable, so if you find a problem make sure that
> > it is not the interconnecting cable. If all the cans and cables test
> > OK, their may be a problem on the receive side of the duplexer. Keep it
> > simple, don't fool with the cans unless you prove that one is bad.
> >
> > This process is to eliminate the obvious before you go tinkering with
> > the duplexer. Check the tightness of connections first, cables second,
> > and lastly the cans. The process above will help you isolate the bad
> > can so you hopefully only have to tinker with one can.
> >
> > The real fix would involve some test equipment. What do you have
> > available? Service monitor, tracking generator?
> >
> > Others will probably have some good suggestions, these ideas are just
> > off the top of my head.
> >
> > On 9/6/2010 9:37 AM, W3ML wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > First, let me say that we are still new to the repeater business and
> learning as we go. This the first time in 30 ham years that I have been
> involved with a VHF repeater system.
> > >
> > > Our repeater was working okay at 80 watts out of GE Mastr II and 60
> watts out of Duplexer. When I turn the power up to 100 out of radio and 80
> out of duplexer it seemed to be working okay.
> > >
> > > But, now a few hours later there is no power coming out of duplexer at
> all. Radio still shows power coming out.
> > >
> > > Nothing was touch on the duplexer. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > 73
> > > John, W3ML
> > >
> >
>
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