Michael:
I should have sent my reply to the whole group, instead of just to Tom.
I didn't want to send my (attached) piece out to everybody, so I only
replied to him, where he would need something to test the problem & fix
with.
My reply was:
Tom:
I have attached a Rosegarden ('.rg') file that was used successfully by
the prior level of Rosegarden (11.11.42).
The pan and volume settings for the tracks, as loaded and observed in
the prior level of Rosegarden (11.11.42), are (as they should be):
Track 2 (53. Choir Aahs), Pan=50, Volume=109
Track 3 (69. Oboe), Pan=80, Volume=110
Track 4 (74. Flute), Pan=80, Volume=104
Track 5 (99. FX 3 (crystal)), Pan=40, Volume=81
Track 6 (49. String Ensemble 1), Pan=64, Volume=127
Track 8 (1. Acoustic Grand Piano), Pan=64, Volume=117
Track 9 (49. String Ensemble 1), Pan=64, Volume=41
The pan and volume settings for the tracks, as loaded and observed in
Rosegarden development version (12.12), are:
Track 2: pan=64, volume=100
Track 3: pan=64, volume=100
Track 4: pan=64, volume=100
Track 5: pan=64, volume=100
Track 6: pan=64, volume=100
Track 8: pan=64, volume=100
Track 9: pan=64, volume=100
The thing that made me notice this problem, is that tracks 8 and 9
constitute what I call a "composite voice", in this case, to sound
similar to the "Piano Strings" voice of the Yamaha S90-es synthesizer
the piece was composed on.
The piano part is normal volume, but the strings voice (a hint of
strings in the background) is less than half-volume. The segments of
the two tracks are the same.
When I played the piece (doing verification testing on Lubuntu 12.10), I
immediately noticed the string part (track 9) was way too loud.
Please let me know if you need any further clarification, or
information.
- Aere
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:23 -0400, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 01:11 PM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
>
> > But it doesn't reset settings in general, it only does anything if you
> > change MIDI devices and a device parameter appears to be on a default
> > setting (ie, it's zero and the new device default is not zero).
> >
> > But that doesn't seem to apply. You said you had saved pan settings
> > (etc), presumably not all zero. And it would only happen if your demo
> > file changed what device you're playing on (Eg, it output to a different
> > sound card than what you were sending MIDI to before you loaded that
> > savefile).
>
> I don't have time to get into it, but this makes me wonder what happens
> when you load an existing file and doctor it so it will play on your
> current setup a couple years later. Such doctoring is extremely common,
> and shouldn't cause all the controllers to reset to default values.
>
> I bet we don't make any attempt to preserve values though, and every
> different device definition you load could have different controllers.
> Let's say you had "Roland SC-33" loaded in the top slot, and you change
> it to "General MIDI" or something. It happens to have most of the same
> controllers, but does Rosegarden know and do anything about that? What
> *should* happen to pan and volume?
>
> Pan, volume, reverb and chorus are four legacy controllers that were
> originally treated differently too.
>
> No suggestions here, no looking at anything or experimentation, just
> idle pondering on my way out the door and nothing more.
--
Sincerely,
Aere
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