Don't call Aley!!! I didn't write CPU core for ASCD, don't you know? It's from SimCoupe by Allan J.Skillman. I did several changes and rewrote most parts of emulator, but I have never changed any CPU timing (not counting optimizations which don't affect emulation quality). The value 3.14MHz is a fiction, because it is based on a value of one particular instruction. The whole emulator runs at speed very similar to the real machine. I am sure technically skilled people understand, but I am affraid I can't describe it easily for the others. Surely I won't "fix" this, because it is not a real bug. It is the behaviour of the used technology. If you tested also SamEmu, another emulator of Sam Coupe, then you would see real difference. Although it has NO CPU TIMING, it has no problems with non-gaming software.
------------------------------------------------------------------ Bc.Aley [eili] Keprt - games & multimedia programmer ICQ: 82357182 (evenings) *** phone: +420-68-5387035 (weekends) private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://get.to/aley office: Illusion Softworks, Brno, CZ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no> Sent: 10. srpna 2001 12:59 Subject: RE: Sam CPU timing Aley Keprt wrote: > Yes, there are many bugs. > I have a special test software which gives 4.8MHz speed on > real Sam and 3.17 on SimCoupe. > ASCD shows only 2.72MHz. Eh.... I did some tests last night using my real SAM, SimCoupé 0.81a and ASCD 0.90 WIP 1. I get very different results from yours for both SimCoupé _and_ ASCD - were you using very old versions? For anyone interested, the tests use a CPU speed measurement program from issue 7 of the KAPSA disk magazine. The ROM and RAM values below are the measured speeds (approx. in MHz) of some test code running in ROM and RAM memory areas: --- Real SAM: MODE 1: ROM=5.986, RAM=4.428 MODE 2: ROM=5.988, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video on): ROM=5.988, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video off): ROM=5.988, RAM=5.561 I figure the slight difference in ROM speed for mode 1 must just be the forced ASIC slow-down affecting the test code during it's time in RAM. --- ASCD 0.90 WIP 1: All modes and settings: ROM=3.104, RAM=3.104 ASCD doesn't implement any sort of contention for ROM/RAM/screen-off, so the running speed never changes. It does surprise me that the measured value is at least 50% out from real SAM values though. (Aley?) --- SimCoupé 0.81a: MODE 1: ROM=5.561, RAM=4.883 MODE 2: ROM=5.561, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video on): ROM=5.561, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video off): ROM=5.561, RAM=5.561 The contended and uncontended values for RAM are already perfect, which shows Dave Laundon's per-access timing changes work well. There are two _documented_ deficiencies that I believe will cover the other differences: 1) SimCoupé doesn't currently implement unrounded ROM timings, so the ROM is treated as uncontended RAM (making it ~0.4MHz slower than it should be). This will be a bit nasty to implement, and probably won't be done for a while yet. 2) SimCoupé also doesn't implement the forced slow-down used by the ASIC in mode 1, to make the running speed closer to Spectrum speed. This is something that I hope will be done soon, even if just to improve one results above! I'm not aware of any other timing problems at this time - certainly no bugs, as was suggested... --- Si