Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

2013-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
the Baysian analysis by Johnson and Melich, for example. There is not the slightest chance we will sway people such as Cude, Mary Yugo or Robert Park. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Pekka Janhunen analysis supports the reported underestimation of radiated power

2013-05-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
do believe that Rossi and every other cold fusion researcher is either a liar, a criminal or a lunatic, as Robert Park says. I do not suppose they secretly believe the results are real and they are posting disinformation on behalf of the oil industry. I do not believe in conspiracies. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
that Robert Park sincerely believes we are lunatics and criminals. If you do not like to read this sort of thing just block his messages. What is the big deal? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Fact checking: Did Nature (or others) publicly decide to reject all cold fusion papers?

2013-06-02 Thread Vorl Bek
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:14:35 -0400 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: A lie detector test should be a requirement of employment for their institution which asks the critical question: “Do you or have you ever opposed the idea of LENR to have

Re: [Vo]:Fact checking: Did Nature (or others) publicly decide to reject all cold fusion papers?

2013-06-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
the same lines, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and others have often published attacks by Robert Park and other opponents accusing researchers of being frauds, criminals and lunatics. To my knowledge they have never allowed any researcher to publish an objection or a rebuttal

Re: [Vo]:Fact checking: Did Nature (or others) publicly decide to reject all cold fusion papers?

2013-06-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
fulfilling population desire). 2013/6/2 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask to people who follow the LENr domain whetehr or not there is an official policy in Scientific Journal to reject LENR/Cold Fusion papers ? Yes. Most

Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
the present test does not prove. Mary Yugo would insist it is fake. Robert Park would ignore it. Why bother? Just use a different watt meter next time and all remaining questions vanish as surely as they would with a self-sustaining reactor. that is what I am working toward. standalone and a cup

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: When will they finally realize that Rossi may have something? They always knew he might . . . I doubt that. I cannot read minds, but I get a sense that Shanahan, Nate Lewis or Robert Park are certain they are right. It has never crossed their minds

Re: [Vo]:Why Cold Fusion Has to Die

2013-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
of the Royal Society. The leading opponents, such as Robert Park, are not experts in relevant fields such as nuclear energy, electrochemistry or calorimetry. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
and the New York Times science editors. Most opponents are trying to stop it because they think it is fraud and lunacy, as Robert Park says. Others think it unscientific nonsense, similar to creationism. A few scientists in the plasma fusion program want to stop it because they fear it will cut their budget

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

2013-05-11 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is that people often make drastic mistakes. Even intelligent people do. Even cold fusion researchers do. It was not obvious because these people were blinded by emotion. So are the people opposed

Re: [Vo]:A Couple Hundred Bucks Maybe...

2013-06-04 Thread Joshua Cude
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand what you have in mind here. Nature allows us to do some things and not others. We have to work with what nature allows, not what we would wish for in an ideal universe.[...] Obviously with more

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

2013-05-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
mayor. It was not obvious because these people were blinded by emotion. So are the people opposed to cold fusion, such as Robert Park and Cude. Facts, logic, analysis, common sense, education, the lessons of experience . . . all are sacrificed when emotions and the primate instinct for power politics

Re: [Vo]:If I want to see it for myself...

2013-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
such as Robert Park, and the mischievous nitwits at Wikipedia and the Scientific American, who have published lies about it, poisoning public opinion. People who have no interested in it, and who have expressed no opinion, have caused no harm. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:If I want to see it for myself...

2013-05-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
misreads. Let me answer your question: How many times do we need to go through this . . . ? No number of times will suffice. People such as Cude or Robert Park will NEVER acknowledge any point you make, no matter how self evident, no matter how trivial. They will not give an inch. I have been dealing

Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

2013-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
. More to the point, how can you expect researchers to make progress when their funding is cut and they are fired? This happened to Mizuno, Miles and Boss and most others. There is tremendous opposition to this research because of academic politics. Robert Park and other go around destroying people's

Re: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk?

2013-06-05 Thread Ron Kita
Robert Park is 82 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Park In my cabinet I have a bottle to celebrate his no longer finding a use for oxygen. Also..I will debunk his death...as will others. Ron Kita On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:06 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013

Re: [Vo]:If I want to see it for myself...

2013-05-14 Thread Axil Axil
not serve the goals of LENR well. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The same is true when an experiment shows that gold nanoparticles can reduce the half-life of U232 alpha emissions from 69 years to 6 microseconds

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

2013-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
. The creme de la creme of Wall Street tycoons and bankers triggered the 2008 crash. Gen. Colin Powell believed the Iraqi WMD intelligence.) 4. There are small number of hard-core opponents such as Robert Park, Huizenga, Close, Morrison and the editors of the Scientific American. These people jumped

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-26 Thread John Berry
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: When will they finally realize that Rossi may have something? They always knew he might . . . I doubt that. I cannot read minds, but I get a sense that Shanahan, Nate

Re: [Vo]: About the March test

2013-06-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
will not accept the thermocouple reading because they did not present the entire data set. They said only that it tracked the IR camera to within 2 deg C. I am sure that if they did present the entire data set, he would find some other reason to reject the results. Finally, Shanahan, Yugo, Robert Park

Re: [Vo]:Face-Palm moment: Essen et al did it again! [Abd's open letter]

2013-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
to threaten them all. But the fossil fuel industry and the DoE both think that cold fusion does not exist. They have no knowledge of it. The are not going to try and stop something that they consider a lunatic fringe perpetual motion machine movement. (We can thank Robert Park and John Huizenga

RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk?

2013-06-05 Thread Craig Brown
and usually wrong.” Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk? From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com Date: Thu, June 06, 2013 2:09 pm To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Park is 82http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L

Re: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk?

2013-06-06 Thread David Roberson
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk? From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com Date: Thu, June 06, 2013 2:09 pm To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Park is 82 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Park In my cabinet I have a bottle

RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to debunk?

2013-06-05 Thread Craig Brown
chiralex.k...@gmail.com Date: Thu, June 06, 2013 2:09 pm To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Park is 82http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._ParkIn my cabinet I have a bottle to celebrate his no longer finding a use for oxygen. Also..I will debunk his death...as will others.Ron KitaOn Wed, Jun 5, 2013 a