[CTRL] [endsecrecy] UFOs Over Hollywood

2000-03-10 Thread lloyd

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Subject: [endsecrecy] UFOs Over Hollywood
Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:33 AM

From:
CNINews Vol. 5, No. 24, Part 2 -- February 16, 2000
CNINews1 at aol.com

MULTIPLE WITNESSES SEE DAYLIGHT UFOS IN HOLLYWOOD

[CNI News thanks Jerry Glass of MUFON Riverside County, California, for
sharing this sighting report. The source, Glass says, "is known to me. He is
a very private person with a solid military intelligence background." The
studio referenced in the report is in Hollywood and (coincidentally?) was
involved in the production of Steven Speilberg's new 14 UFO/ET mini-series.]

The eyewitness writes: "We had a sighting here at the studio where I work.
It
occurred in the morning of January 27 at about 9:40 am and lasted until
10:00
am.
   "There are about 30 people total who saw these objects. What brought
our attention to this was the annoying sound of a helicopter that was
circling constantly about 100 yards away. When we went out to see what the
commotion was, there were already several people viewing. There were two
large and about eight small objects. The larger ones appeared about the size
of a push pin held at arms length, the smaller about the size of a pin.
   "As the chopper moved toward one of the larger objects, the smaller
objects formed a ring around the larger one, as if to defend it. The
'copter,
in response to this, quickly started flying to the north and continued out
of
sight.
   "After it left the area, the small objects changed to a "V" formation
behind one of the larger objects and flew to the west, disappearing into the
slightly hazy sky. The other larger object went straight up until it too
disappeared from sight.
   "At 10:20 am I heard people talking outside my door and went to see
what was up. Another object was hovering motionless, and remained in sight
for about ten minutes.
   "One of our techs had a pair of binoculars in his truck, and we were
able to see it quite clearly. It was oval in shape, with a yellowish chrome
band through the middle. The top portion was red, the lower portion green.
   "About 10:45 the object started rising slowly until it was gone from
sight.
   "Wind was 3 to 8 miles an hour coming from the southwest, [sky]
mostly
clear with a slight haze. Not sure that the [chopper] was from L.A.P.D. as
there were NO NUMBERS one could use to identify it. The height that it was
circling at was no more that 80 to 100 feet -- you could clearly see the
pilot looking at these things.
   "Location of witnesses was at The Post Group [studio?], with the
sighting occurring to WSW direction. CNN had a clear view of all this, but
did not respond. We did get calls from other studios asking if we were
seeing
the same thing."

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Re: [CTRL] Bonesmen George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas and . . .

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I suppose Mr Casey's message to Clinton in 1992 was posthumous, given that he
had been quite dead since 1987...

Such foresight! A pity he could not have applied this prescience to identify
the imminent demise of the Soviet Union as opposed to political developments
in his own country.

BD

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Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

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Thanks for the posting Nicky.

I've read about the PGA before in Jeremy Lee's books. He saw them as
something sinister. I must admit that while I have grave reservations about
their scheme and certainly have a bone to pick with them for abusing the
trust of their constituents by embarking on this sort of altruistic
power-trip without making it an open part of their platform, I very much
doubt it will come to anything. In part it reflects their own naive idealism,
but also the reality that their power as politicians is becoming increasingly
circumscribed by global economic integration. It's attempt to claw something
back at a global level. I doubt it will succeed.

The "Resistance" you speak of sounds intriguing and I'd certainly appreciate
some more info.

BD.

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Re: [CTRL] Twenty Questions . . . David Guyatt

2000-03-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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3/9/2k

This is really a terrific interview with an interesting guy.
Thanks for posting it Kris

J2

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 Twenty Questions . . . David Guyatt
 RA Kris Millegan©2000
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 www.ctr.org

 3/8/2000

 I met David Guyatt through the Internet. An essay of mine about Skull and
 Bones was/is posted at www.parascope.com and David ran across it and an
 ensuing friendship was formed. Through the years David has shared his
 frustrations of researching, uncovering, understanding and then articulating
 complex stories for years only to have the rug pulled out from various
 projects by the "powers-that-be." David has much personal experience, has
 published many articles and has followed  leads where others fear to tread. I
 have always valued David’s experiences and insights and am happy to present
 this email interview with one the world’s top "conspiracy" researchers into
 the netherworld of "reality."

 Om
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 Twenty Questions . . .

 1. What is your background?

 I am married, have three grown up kids and one grandson.  I live on the East
 coast of England with a fine view out over the countryside.

 Professionally speaking I spent almost 28 years in stockbroking and
 international banking in the City of London.  I worked for a number of what I
 now know to be "interesting" firms - but at the time didn't really know the
 game was on.

 One of these firms was Euromobiliare, an Italian Stockbroker owned by
 Agnelli.  Earlier, I also helped set-up the London office of Blyth Eastman
 Dillon  Co Limited which was the Eurobond arm of this Wall Street broker. I
 also had a short spell with Shearson Rhodes Loeb, London.  Then there was the
 three or four years I was with the London office of White Weld  Co., a
 blue-blood Wall Street broker that was eventually subsumed into Credit Suisse
 First Boston (CSFB).  That was in the early 1970's at a time of great
 monetary flux for the emerging Eurodollar/Eurobond market.

 I was still young and surrounded by people who later grew to some prominence.
  For example, Stani Yassakovitch was a White Welder who later became Chairman
 of Western American Bank, later to become European American Bank.  Then there
 was David Potter, just out of university and trading CD's. David later went
 on to become Chairman (or CEO -I can't remember which) of Samuel Montagu.
 Years later I met up again with him - at a Bond Conference in Helsinki of all
 places - when he joined Midland Bank where I was the treasurer in the
 Forfaiting division.

 I was at Midland throughout the eighties and helped fund a large number of
 financing packages for weapon deals - from Mortars for the Planagists in
 Lebanon to helicopter gunships for Turkey (but possibly bound for Iraq).  I
 also worked on a package for F16's for, but can no longer remember if this
 was concluded or not or where they were destined.  The division I worked in
 was Midland Bank Aval Limited (known as MidAval) which was wholly owned by
 Midland Bank Group International Trade Services (known in-house as
 "Mib-Gits").  Weapons financing and discounting Russian government "paper"
 were the two most important profit sectors we were involved in.

 Interestingly, MibGits was a commercial "cover" for Britain's SIS and SS (MI6
 and MI5) and more than half a dozen intelligence officers worked there full
 time involving themselves in various international weapon deals and other
 forms of spookery.

 Back in 1983, MibGits hit the headlines when their Moscow Representative,
 Dennis Skinner, a career MI6 officer, was tossed out of the fifth floor
 window of his Moscow apartment block.  Skinner had identified a KGB "mole"
 working in the British embassy in Moscow and the KGB took their revenge.

 One of the more senior MibGits officers was MI5 spook master Sir John Cuckney
 and his thug underling Stephan Kock.  Kock has been identified by insiders
 (including, for example, Gerald James - former Chairman of the large
 armaments firm Astra) to have one time headed Group 13 - a "deniable"
 assassination group composed largely of former SAS types who operate – at
 arms length - on behalf of Britain's Foreign Office.

 Some years after I left the bank, I met up with Gerald in the coffee lounge
 of the Institute of Directors on Pall Mall.  At the time I was conducting
 research for an article I was writing on Group 13.  More than once, others
 sitting close gave us skewed glances as we discussed assassinations, arms
 deals and secret services -- not the sort of topic that most IOD members got
 to listen to very often.  Gerald's book "In The Public Interest" is an
 extremely insightful reflection of Margaret Thatcher's Britain and in it he
 typifies Midland Bank (that is to say MibGits and MidAval - since we dealt
 with Astra, too) as  "a veritable junction box of the UK 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Melting Of Earth's Ice Cover Reaches New High]

2000-03-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Subject: Melting Of Earth's Ice Cover Reaches New High
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Howdy, all--

Thought this might interest those of you who live on planet earth.
From
Worldwatch Institute.

peace
mish

~~`

NEWS FROM THE WORLDWATCH INSTITUTE

Worldwatch News Brief 00-02

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 6, 2000

MELTING OF EARTH'S ICE COVER REACHES NEW HIGH
by Lisa Mastny

The Earth's ice cover is melting in more places and at higher rates
than
at any time since record keeping began.  Reports from around the world
compiled by the Worldwatch Institute (see attached data table) show
that
global ice melting accelerated during the 1990s-which was also the
warmest decade on record.

Scientists suspect that the enhanced melting is among the first
observable signs of human-induced global warming, caused by the
unprecedented release of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases
over
the past century. Glaciers and other ice features are particularly
sensitive to temperature shifts.

The Earth's ice cover acts as a protective mirror, reflecting a large
share of the sun's heat back into space and keeping the planet cool.
Loss of the ice would not only affect the global climate, but would
also
raise sea levels and spark regional flooding, damaging property and
endangering lives. Large-scale melting would also threaten key water
supplies as well as alter the habitats of many of the world's plant
and
animal species.

Some of the most dramatic reports come from the polar regions, which
are
warming faster than the planet as a whole and have lost large amounts
of
ice in recent decades. The Arctic sea ice, covering an area roughly
the
size of the United States, shrunk by an estimated 6 percent between
1978
and 1996, losing an average of 34,300 square kilometers-an area larger
than the Netherlands-each year.

The Arctic sea ice has also thinned dramatically since the 1960s and
70s. Between this period and the mid-1990s, the average thickness
dropped from 3.1 meters to 1.8 meters-a decline of nearly 40 percent
in
less than 30 years.

The Arctic's Greenland Ice Sheet-the largest mass of land-based ice
outside of Antarctica, with 8 percent of the world's ice-has thinned
more than a meter per year on average since 1993 along parts of its
southern and eastern edges.

The massive Antarctic ice cover, which averages 2.3 kilometers in
thickness and represents some 91 percent of Earth's ice, is also
melting. So far, most of the loss has occurred along the edges of the
Antarctic Peninsula, on the ice shelves that form when the land-based
ice sheets flow into the ocean and begin to float. Within the past
decade, three ice shelves have fully disintegrated: the Wordie, the
Larsen A, and the Prince Gustav. Two more, the Larsen B and the
Wilkins,
are in full retreat and are expected to break up soon, having lost
more
than one-seventh of their combined 21,000 square kilometers since late
1998-a loss the size of Rhode Island. Icebergs as big as Delaware have
also broken off Antarctica in recent years, posing threats to
open-water
shipping.

Antarctica's vast land ice is also melting, although there is
disagreement over how quickly. One study estimates that the Western
Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS), the smaller of the continent's two ice
sheets, has retreated at an average rate of 122 meters a year for the
past 7,500 years-and is in no imminent danger of collapse. But other
studies suggest that the sheet may break more abruptly if melting
accelerates. They point to signs of past collapse, as well as to
fast-moving ice streams within the sheet that could speed ice melt, as
evidence of potential instability.

Outside the poles, most ice melt has occurred in mountain and subpolar
glaciers, which have responded much more rapidly to temperature
changes.
As a whole, the world's glaciers are now shrinking faster than they
are
growing, and losses in 1997-98 were "extreme," according to the World
Glacier Monitoring Service. Scientists predict that up to a quarter of
global mountain glacier mass could disappear by 2050, and up to
one-half
by 2100-leaving large patches only in Alaska, Patagonia, and the
Himalayas. Within the next 35 years, the Himalayan glacial area alone
is
expected to shrink by one-fifth, to 100,000 square kilometers.

The disappearance of Earth's ice cover would significantly alter the
global climate-though the net effects remain unknown. Ice,
particularly
polar ice, reflects large amounts of solar energy back into space, and
helps keep the planet cool. When ice melts, however, this exposes land
and water surfaces that retain heat-leading to even more melt and
creating a feedback loop that 

Re: [CTRL] Is Jesus a Republican?

2000-03-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Oh god. Will Libertarians ever get anything right?

Total ignorance of human nature.
Total ignorance of political nature.

Just I, Me, Mine.

--J2

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 from:
 http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.10/jesus_republican.htm
 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.10/jesus_republican.htm"Is
 Jesus a Republican?, by Jim Peron/A
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 Is Jesus a Republican?

 by Jim Peron

What a stupid premise. Jesus could not possibly be a Republican
because he
could not read or write english. Unlike George W. Bush who also has a
powerful
daddy, but CAN read or write english, Jesus would have difficulty
organizing
placard slogans.

The problem is that both of them can't speak english. George W. kinda
speaks
Spanish and Jesus kinda speaks Greek but that is only valuable in
certain
neighborhoods.

 George W. Bush wants to be President of the US, and he expects Jesus to help
 him. While seeking the Republican Party nomination, Bush was recently asked
 what political philosopher had the most effect on his life. He answered:
 “Christ. Because he changed my heart.” Orrin Hatch and Gary Bauer quickly
 followed suit—and suddenly Jesus was considered one of the great political
 philosophers within the Republican Party. Now what’s wrong with this picture?

Makes good sense to me.

 In fact Jesus had very little to say about political philosophy. He tended to
 speak about matters in the realm of personal ethics more than anything else.

What an idiot! It's exactly opposite. Jesus always talked political
philosophy.
" Render unto Caesar..." , " The Kingdom of Heaven ( Revolution ) is
upon us."

 Now, of course, politics is simply an extension of ethics,

More absurdity. Politics is the opposite of ethics. Look at our
system.
Any political system.

 so one can
 rationally deduce a political viewpoint using one’s ethics as the starting
 point. But when we do this with the teachings of Jesus, we find views which
 are more at home in the far left wing of the Democratic Party. In fact the
 socialists, Marxists and radical Greens would love the ethical teachings of
 Christ — and they do.

Of course they do. They all understand the destructive effects of
wealth
and concentration of wealth.

 Fidel Castro, it seems, is quite fond of these quotes from Jesus. He has
 said: “I believe that Karl Marx could have subscribed to the Sermon on the
 Mount.” While the Sermon on the Mount is considered great teaching by most
 Christians, very few actually pay attention to what was said:

 “No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the
 other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other,

 Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

This is why J could never be a Republican.

 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your
 life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what
 ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor
 gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much
 better than they? Which you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his
 stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the
 field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto
 you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

Jesus was obviously a Green.

 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to
 morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of
 little faith. Therefore take no thought, saying What shall we eat? or, What
 shall we drink? or Wherewithal shall we be clothed? ...But seek ye first the
 kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added
 unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take
 things of itself.”

This definitely influenced the Hippie movement.

LIBERTARIANS DIS JESUS.

 The Sermon starts out with a condemnation of money: you can’t serve God and
 mammon. Then it goes into a discourse on why you shouldn’t make an effort to
 support yourself, since the great welfare state in the sky will provide all
 your needs. But this is entirely consistent with every other quote attributed
 to Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus never had a kind word regarding wealth
 and the wealthy (see: Matthew 13:33, Mark 4:19, Luke 8:14, Mark 10:21-25,
 Luke 14, and Luke 19). These assaults on wealth are openly endorsed by
 numerous other disciples throughout the New Testament. Wealth is repeatedly
 listed as an impediment to salvation. In fact Jesus, on more than one
 occasion, said that one must abandon wealth in order to be saved.

Definitely NOT a Republican. Nor a Democrat either. But NEVER would HE
be a
Libertarian.


 The Great Welfare State in the Sky

 In a previous 

[CTRL] UN MILLENIUM FORUM - 22-26 MAY 2000 (fwd)

2000-03-10 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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To: All non-governmental organizations, humanitarian and
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academic institutions, religious organizations, unions,
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groups of global civil society.

From: The Millennium Forum

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Re: Registration Deadline Extended -- Update on the Millennium Forum

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Dear Friend(s),

In an effort to accommodate the vast numbers of grassroots-level
non-governmental organizations and civil society groups in remote
areas of the world who have expressed a keen interest in
participating in the Millennium Forum, the deadline for
applications to attend the Millennium Forum has been extended to
31 March 2000.

The Millennium Forum is scheduled to be held 22-26 May 2000 at
United Nations headquarters in New York. It strives to solicit
the best thinking of civil society in all its sectors worldwide
as they relate to six broad themes:

  *  Peace, Security  Disarmament,

  *  Poverty Eradication

  *  Human Rights,

  *  Sustainable Development and the Environment

  *  Facing the Challenge of Globalization: Achieving Equity,
 Diversity  Sustainability

  *  Democratizing and Strengthening the United Nations and
 Global Institutions

The Forum will also be GENDER BALANCED in its representation.

As of the initial deadline of 1 March 2000, the Forum had
received more than 750 applications for participation in the
Forum, from organizations and individuals in more than 90
countries. However, the Forum has also received many inquiries
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information out to and back from civil society organizations in
such regions has necessitated extending the deadline.

To be assured of being considered for participation in the Forum,
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REGISTERING ON-LINE IS THE QUICKEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO
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In other developments, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan gave the
Forum a boost recently during remarks to civil society in New
Zealand, when he said that the "NGO Revolution" has been "the
best thing that has happened to our Organization in a long time."
He invited civil society organizations to the Millennium Forum,
calling for a stronger partnership between the UN and civil
society.

"Civil society organizations have already given new life and new
meaning to the idea of an international community," said
Secretary General Annan on 23 February 2000. "And you can give us
your ideas about the role the United Nations should play in the
twenty-first century.

"I hope you will come to the Millennium Forum in May full of
constructive suggestions on how to approach the world’s most
pressing problems, and how to deal with them in a spirit of
global solidarity," Mr. Annan concluded. "I hope you will help us
achieve our goal of bringing the United Nations closer to the
people."

The Millennium Forum represents the next step towards
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the next in the series of major global NGO conferences, following
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In tackling such a wide range of issues, from peace to human
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Re: [CTRL] IS Clinton a rapist?

2000-03-10 Thread Jeff Sandlin

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Boy, did I stir up a hornets nest. My only response is tell one of your
relatives the person who raped them  wasn`t evil. I`m sure they will
understand.

http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture
http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins

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[CTRL] Fwd: Baron Stockmar ON THE ROAD TO NEW TECHNOLOGY

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan







KRIS

So you found the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha and Baron Stockmar!!

A revelation!

In my deep storage I have several files on this with the hook up to the
Illuminati.

Then I tied Victoria into Cecil Rhodes/Rothschild/ and the Anglo-Boer War. (
a manufactured war)

What it looks like is that the Weishaupt influence went thru the House of
Saxe Coburg Gotha to England and then via CFR/ sb/ Chatham House to the
present Anglo-American "special relationship" or New World Order..

When I published my first book on SOVIET TECHNOLOGY the Hoover Institution
sent an advance copy to Chatham House in England.

Today   the same infleunce attempts  to penetrate New Technology.
But today more are aware. They will have problems.  New Tech means the end of
resource monopoly (see upcoming April FTIR).   And etheric tech which comes
after New Tech CANNOT BE CONTROLED.THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE INTUITIVELY
CORRECT IN YOUR IDEA OF "OPENESS''

THERE ARE NO SECRETS IN 4-SPACE.

use this as you wish Kris.




[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Fwd: Twenty Questions . . . David Guyatt

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "David Guyatt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tony, Did you ever read Brian Crozier's book "Free Agent?"  I have never met
or spoken with him but just by reading his book he also seems to be a
simpering and pompous s.o.b.

His connections with Antoine Pinay and Jean Violet stem, I think, from his
membership to "Le Cercle" (also known as the "Pinay Cercle") which was
funded by the CIA.  Interestingly, this group, according to Robert
Hutchison's "Thy Kingdom Come," was part of the Opus Dei network.  This is
fascinating because the late M.P. (and former government minister) Alan
Clark in his "Diaries" reveals that he attended a Le Cercle conference held
at Muscat, Oman and attended by the Ruler, Sheik Qaboos - who clearly is not
a Christain.  Clark attended the conference along with Jonathan Aitken (the
disgraced Tory Minister) who Clark stated "...knew absolutely everybody in
the world [and] amusingly and indiscretely guided me through it [the
attendance list].  This included General Norman Schwarzkopf and  Julian
Amery (later Lord) son of  L S Amery, a Rhodes Trustee.  At other times,
invited speakers were Kissinger, Hans-Josep Strauss, Brzezinski, David
Rockerfeller and Giulio Andreotti.

Both Crozier and Amery were, at one time, Chairman of Le Cercle.  Crozier
also ran an intelligence outfit called simply the "61" that is said to have
represented the number of those who supported and financed it.  These
included the fascist financial manipulator, Sir James Goldsmith and other
billionaires and millionaires and I think Rupert Murdoch (tho' I am not
certain of the last).  The Cercle has, in the past, also included support
from Alexander de Marenches, formerly head of SDECE and Sir Arthur "Dickie"
Franks.

Crozier describes the "61" as a "Secret Operational Organisation," so it is
clear that, although private in character, it was a military arm and engaged
in covert operations and its remit was global.







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Re: [CTRL] Bonesmen George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas and . . .

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 3/10/00 2:37:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

-Caveat Lector-
 -Cui Bono?-

I suppose Mr Casey's message to Clinton in 1992 was posthumous, given that
he
had been quite dead since 1987...

Such foresight! A pity he could not have applied this prescience to identify
the imminent demise of the Soviet Union as opposed to political developments
in his own country.

BD

 Well, You have misread the section. The conversation happen in 1986. The
reference to 1992 election was speaking to the earlier collusion of the
"opposing" candidates.

Such ignorance.
om
k

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Re: [CTRL] [firebase-chat] Re: [Fwd: Armand Hammer and Al Gore]

2000-03-10 Thread Bard

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oops!  The latter should have read, The National Association for the
Advancement of Communist People.
The heat of Passion for the protection of my Freedoms sometimes
influences the context of my expression of my thoughts.  Will you
forgive me??
Thanks, Dude.
Bard

Michael Buie wrote:

 The Union of Leftists for the Deprivation of our Constitutional Freedoms
 would be ULDCF, not ACLU.
 The National Association of Communist People would be NACP, not NAACP.

 Michael Buie
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Visit http://www.militarybetrayed.com
 to see how our government allows state courts
 to essentially give PERMANENT ALIMONY to
 your ex-spouse in the amount of half your
 Military Retired Pay.
Some judges have figured out how to award
 ALL of your Retired Pay to your ex-wife or
 ex-husband. IS IT WORTH IT?

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 offensive.  I am sure you could find some other way to express yourself.
 
  Rocky
 
 
  In a message dated Wed, 8 Mar 2000  1:01:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bard
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   This is a must read for algore's supporters,
   i.e. ignorant femmes, homos, blacks, welfare tax-suckers, Buddist Monks
   and Nuns, baby-killers, members of the NAACP (The National Association
   of Communist People) and supporters of the ACLU (The Union of Leftists
   for the Deprivation of our Constitutional Freedoms), and all the
   parasitic scum who thrive on big government.
  
   Bard
  
   Get Educated before November 7, 2000.
  
   If the economy takes a nose-dive, algore has had it.

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[CTRL] [NA] Virginia Aftermath; Absentee Ballots

2000-03-10 Thread lloyd

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..

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Subject: [NA] Virginia Aftermath; Absentee Ballots
Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 2:04 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
March 1, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire

Virginia Aftermath; Absentee Ballots

Short message today: Bush wins Virginia, North Dakota, Washington state.

Are we seeing the beginning of a see-saw that will drag out to the
August GOP convention in order to prevent Reform and other third party
movements from gaining center stage?

Or are we seeing the sinking of McCain? The sinking of McCain at this
point will somewhat surprise me and refute some of the forecast I’ve put
out.

Or are we seeing the prelude to the sinking of Bush – with McCain
winning California and Ohio and New York next week?

Tomorrow I will carry the results of my conversation yesterday with
Teresa Nagel, the director of the Board of Elections in a small county
in California. I called to ask her, for my friend Dick  Murphy – who is
running for Superior Court Judge there. I wanted to know what right the
candidate or citizens had to monitor the vote count on election day, now
a few days away (March 7, 2000, Super Tuesday). When you see her
answers, you’ll understand why will not carry any reports of
“hand-counting paper ballots at the precinct by citizens in public for
all to see” – unless the person sending the report will identify
himself, and then tell us exactly where this took place. We will then
check it out with that Board of Elections. Unfortunately, except in New
Hampshire so far, what we have always found so far is what you will read
tomorrow.

The following was sent to me by Michael Hoffman of Independent History
Research. It provides some of the rational why many informed observers
feel that the only way to handle absentee ballots – is to outlaw them.
The story doesn’t mention absentee ballots, but the principle involved
illustrates the potential problem with absentee ballots in every county:

SECRET RE-MARKING OF BALLOTS

SAN ANTONIO, TX -- The last election cycle in November
of 1999, had two witnesses inside the Bexar County
Courthouse for the November election.

A complaint is being readied for filing.

A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR will be sought (because the local
D.A. and the local County Attorney appear to have
"conflict of interest" as part of the local corrupt
political machinery).

Witness was made in Bexar County of "re-marking of
ballots" as standard practice.

When questions were raised to the Texas Secretary of
State.. the Secretary of State wrote back puzzled
stating "such is not authorized under Texas law."

Things may start to get very exciting in Bexar County
and Texas (and maybe across the country).



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TAKES PLACE..

see photographic evidence on-line right now:
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(a secret warehouse for re-marking of ballots in an
official election)
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2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Criminal Presidency


White House Issued Threats in Email Coverup


Messages concerned FBI files, Chinagate, Monica Lewinsky.

Five Northrop Grumman employees were so intimidated by White House threats of
jail that one was nearly fired when she refused to tell her own bosses about
the administration's failure to turn over thousands of e-mail messages under
subpoena.

Newly obtained information shows the White House threatened to have the five
employees jailed after they found — and reported — a glitch in the White
House computer system that prevented the discovery of more than 100,000 White
House messages involving campaign finance abuses, Monica Lewinsky,
"Chinagate" and "Filegate."

The threat came from Laura Crabtree, White House customer-support branch
chief, during a June 15, 1998, meeting in her office after the discovery by
Northrop Grumman of the computer glitch, according to lawyers and others
familiar with the growing scandal. She told the employees the matter was
"extremely sensitive," warned them not to tell anyone about it without
explicit authorization and said the consequences would be a "jail cell."

One of the Northrop Grumman employees, all of whom worked on a
technical-support contract for the Executive Office of the President, was
given 30 minutes to change her mind or be fired for insubordination when she
refused — as ordered by the White House — to tell her immediate supervisors
about the e-mail problem.

That employee ultimately told the company's program manager she would "rather
be insubordinate than go to jail."

During the June 1998 White House meeting, Mrs. Crabtree asked each of the
five employees individually if they understood there were consequences if
they spoke out about the e-mail problem, according to the sources.

The e-mail messages had been sought under subpoena by a federal grand jury,
the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee and
the House Committee on Government Reform as part of several ongoing
investigations.

The employees confirmed in interviews Tuesday by government reform panel
lawyers a series of accusations made last month by Sheryl L. Hall, chief of
White House computer operations. She told The Washington Times that
administration officials covered up the fact that e-mail from August 1996 to
November 1998 had not been surrendered as required by law.

Mrs. Hall said at least 4,000 of the messages related to Miss Lewinsky, the
former White House intern with whom President Clinton admitted having a
sexual relationship, while hundreds of others included references to the
White House's receipt of secret FBI files; information on the selection of
corporate executives for overseas trade trips; and e-mail concerning campaign
finance activities in the 1996 election.

The glitch was first discovered in May 1998 when Northrop Grumman employees
traced a programming error on one of four White House servers back to August
1996. The error involved e-mail to and from 464 White House computer users.
The problem was not fixed until November 1998.

Mrs. Hall, who now works at the Treasury Department, said the missing e-mail
messages were discovered when Northrop Grumman found that one of the four
White House Lotus Notes e-mail servers handling the mail for 500 computer
users was mislabeled and a White House search of e-mail messages under
subpoena was incomplete.

She said e-mail from that server was not properly managed over a two-year
period — meaning not collected by the mainframe computer during the
subpoena-record search.
The automated-records management system at the White House was designed to
scan e-mail "in-boxes" of every user once every several minutes and transfer
copies of incoming e-mail messages to a mainframe computer, where they were
stored and searched for production in response to subpoenas, Freedom of
Information requests and other purposes.
The Northrop Grumman employees discovered that because one of the e-mail
servers was named "Mail2" instead of "MAIL2" and because some components of
the system were case-sensitive, the incoming messages to the users of "Mail2"
were not collected between September 1996 and November 1998.

The effort to fix the problem initially was dubbed "Project X," but later
changed to the "Mail2 Reconstruction Project."

The Northrop Grumman employees brought the mistake to the attention of Mrs.
Crabtree and Mark Lindsay, head of the Office of Management and
Administration. Mr. Lindsay, who participated in the June 1998 meeting in
Mrs. Crabtree's office by speakerphone, and Mrs. Crabtree, who now works at
the Labor Department, have been unavailable for comment.
White House spokesman James Kennedy has said the administration made "a good
faith effort to respond in a timely fashion to all requests for information

[CTRL] Walsh Iran / Contra Report

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://sun00781.dn.net/irp/offdocs/walsh/
Click Here: A HREF="http://sun00781.dn.net/irp/offdocs/walsh/"Walsh Iran /
Contra Report/A
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FINAL REPORT OF THE
INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR
IRAN/CONTRA MATTERS


Volume I:
Investigations and Prosecutions
Lawrence E. Walsh
Independent Counsel
August 4, 1993
Washington, D.C.


UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
Division for the Purpose of
Appointing Independent Counsel
Division No. 86-6




TABLE OF CONTENTS: Volume 1


Contributors

Letter of Transmittal iii
Executive Summary xiii
Summary of Prosecutions xxiii

Part I The Underlying Facts 1


Part II History of the Investigation 25

Chronology of Key Public Developments 51

Part III The Operational Conspiracy:
A Legal Analysis 55


Part IV Investigations and Cases:
The National Security Council Staff 77


Chapter 1 U.S. v. Robert C. McFarlane 79
Chapter 2 U.S. v. Oliver L. North 105
Chapter 3 U.S. v. John M. Poindexter 123
Chapter 4 Paul B. Thompson 137
Chapter 5 Fawn Hall 147
Chapter 6 Robert L. Earl 151
Chapter 7 Thomas C. Green 155
Part V Investigations and Cases:
The Flow of Funds and the Private Operatives 157


Chapter 8 The Enterprise and Its Finances 159
Chapter 9 U.S. v. Richard V. Secord 173
Chapter 10 U.S. v. Albert Hakim 179
Chapter 11 U.S. v. Thomas G. Clines 181
Chapter 12 Swiss Funds Recovery Efforts 185
Chapter 13 Private Fundraisers (U.S. v. Carl R. Channell and U.S. v. Richard
R. Miller) 187
Chapter 14 Other Money Matters 193
Part VI Investigations and Cases:
Officers of the Central Intelligence Agency 199


Chapter 15 William J. Casey 201
Chapter 16 Robert M. Gates 223
Chapter 17 U.S. v. Clair E. George 233
Chapter 18 U.S. v. Duane R. Clarridge 247
Chapter 19 U.S. v. Alan D. Fiers, Jr. 263
Chapter 20 U.S. v. Joseph F. Fernandez 283
Chapter 21 CIA Subject #1 295
Chapter 22 James L. Adkins 309
Chapter 23 Conduct of CIA Officers in November 1986 311
Part VII Investigations and Cases:
Officers of the Department of State 325


Chapter 24 George P. Shultz, M. Charles Hill and Nicholas Platt 325
Chapter 25 U.S. v. Elliott Abrams 375
Chapter 26 Edwin G. Corr 393
Part VIII Investigations and Cases:
Officers of the Department of Defense (U.S. v. Caspar W. Weinberger and
Related Investigations) 405


Part IX Investigations of the White House 443


Chapter 27 President Reagan 445
Chapter 28 George Bush 473
Chapter 29 Donald P. Gregg 485
Chapter 30 Donald T. Regan 505
Chapter 31 Edwin Meese, III 525
Part X Political Oversight and the Rule of Law 555


Part XI Concluding Observations 561


Index 567





Source for this document
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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[CTRL] Obituary of William J. Casey, CIA and SEC Director,

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.ishipress.com/casey-ob.htm
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.ishipress.com/casey-ob.htm"William J. Casey,
CIA and SEC Director, Obituar…/A
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Obituary of William J. Casey, CIA and SEC Director, by Ismail Sloan

CASEY CAREER FINALLY ENDS
by Ismail Sloan

One of the most disreputable characters in American Government finally got
his reward two days ago, when former CIA Director William Casey died.

Casey's most recent notoriety came as the man-in-charge of the now well-known
Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages deal. His death came at an inopportune time for
most. It came too late to save the thousands of Iraqi lives which have been
lost as a result of his masterminding the plot to deliver arms to Iran. It
came too soon for him to testify before the Congressional committees who want
to learn more details about his role in the affair.

Although official White House press releases yesterday characterized him as a
"great patriot", his actual role in history is much less clear. Like so many
government officials around the world, his rise to prominence came by abusing
the powers given him. In the late 1960s, Casey was the Chairman of the United
States Securities and Exchange Commission. His enforcement chief was Stanley
Sporkin, whom Casey later brought with him to the CIA.

Nowadays, officials at the SEC distance themselves from Casey and his
policies. They say that under his leadership, the initials of the S.E.C. were
understood to mean "See Everything Crooked". However, in their heyday, Casey
and Sporkin made quite a dynamic duo. Their favorite trick was the
"enforcement proceeding". Every day, they read the newspapers for anything
unusual or interesting. When they found something, they would bring a suit to
stop whatever it was. These suits were actually hardly ever litigated in
court. However, they were invariably accompanied by banner headlines about
how the public was being protected.

The technique they practiced thousands of times can be illustrated by one
fairly random example of this method. In the late 1960s, the Franklin
National Bank, a prominent New York financial institution, folded. Although
the SEC does not regulate banks, Sporkin, when he read about it in the
newspapers, filed suit on the same day. The great genius of Casey and Sporkin
was to think up creative theories for new kinds of lawsuits they were
constantly inventing. Here, the theory for the suit was that the bank failed
adequately to disclose to its stockholders that it was in financial
difficulty. Had the bank been regulated by the SEC, this theory would have
been reasonable. However, banks and bank stocks were all regulated by the
federal and state banking authorities.

The main thing about this was that it was all just a publicity stunt. In
accordance with the custom in those days, the same day that the SEC filed
suit, its lawyers met with the officials of the Franklin National Bank. They
then entered into what was known as a "consent decree". The way this worked
was that the bank officials agreed to an injunction "without admitting or
denying the charges". In other words, they promised never to do it again,
without admitting to whatever it was that they did. They all then walked
together into the office of a federal judge, who gave a rubber stamp approval
to the deal. By this procedure, more than 95% of the suits which the S.E.C.
filed under Casey were "settled" either the same day or the next day. The
defendants got an exceptionally good deal. In return for their consent, the
SEC promised to close the book on whatever they had done. There would be no
further civil or criminal proceedings. The guilty officers would not have to
go to jail. They would not even be asked to give the money back. They could
even open a new bank. The SEC got, in return, newspaper publicity. Both Casey
and Sporkin loved to see their name in the newspaper every day.

This gave Casey and Sporkin the opportunity to get favorable publicity for
themselves in the newspapers all around America by claiming that they had
taken strong steps to remedy this situation, whereas in reality they had done
nothing at all. Needless to say, neither the uninsured depositors nor the
stockholders of Franklin National Bank ever got a dime back.

In the particular rare case of the Franklin National Bank, the guilty
officers did eventually go to jail. However, the SEC had nothing to do with
that, even though they constantly issued press releases giving themselves
credit. The actual work on the case was done by the Department of Justice,
which does not normally issue press releases. The SEC's actual involvement in
the case lasted a total of two days. (Although Casey had left the SEC by the
time this was concluded, the methods and techniques were his.)

Casey and Sporkin were not, of course, completely independent. Their
activities were overseen by the Senate Banking and Finance Committee and its
chairman, 

[CTRL] China's Congress Calls for National Oil Reserve

2000-03-10 Thread Bill Richer

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Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!


STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update
10 March 2000

China's Congress Calls for National Oil Reserve

Summary:

This week China's National People's Congress discussed the need for
a national strategic oil reserve to protect its economy from
fluctuations in the world oil market. Yet China has an equally
significant reason to stockpile: its reliance on foreign oil.
Without a stable oil supply, China cannot sufficiently expand its
forces to achieve its strategic goals.

Analysis:

At the National People's Congress meeting this week in Beijing,
Chinese legislators discussed the need to build up a strategic oil
reserve. The head of one of China's state-run oil firms presented
the proposal, citing crude oil reserves as a necessary economic
safeguard against fluctuations in world oil prices, reported
Xinhua.

The Chinese government has been a net oil importer since 1995 and
is anticipating an increased dependence on foreign oil. But the
threat of an erratic market is not the only reason for establishing
strategic oil reserves. The Chinese have another driving concern:
the potential for enemies to obstruct the flow of oil to the
country. The urgency with which China is seeking to resolve its
energy crunch suggests that Beijing may be anticipating a day when
its agenda - for example, reunification with Taiwan - clashes with
those of other international players.

China understands that it cannot remain completely self-reliant.
Although coal satisfies approximately 75 percent of its energy
needs, oil demands have outpaced domestic supply and will continue
to grow approximately 4 percent to 5 percent per year through 2015,
according to the U.S. Department of Energy. Meanwhile, the
country's largest domestic oil source, the Daqing field, is mature
and expected to decline in production. While offshore oil sources
remain promising, the grand expectations of Xinjiang production
have failed to pan out.

China's lack of strategic crude oil reserves could threaten its
national interests. Having reunited with Hong Kong and Macao, China
now appears ready to focus its attention on Taiwan. Taiwan
elections are approaching, and China is once again beating the war
drums to reunify with Taiwan. But this year, the Chinese People's
Liberation Army took its rhetoric a step further by setting an
ambitious seven-year timetable for reunification. Until Beijing has
a secured reserve, countries that want to prevent an invasion could
deny China its access to oil.

Given China's ambitious, energy-intensive plans for military and
naval expansion, the country must expand its resources extensively.
Although many industries run on coal and hydropower, the machines
of war - tanks, planes, trucks and ships - cannot. Creating the
reserve will be no small task. At today's oil prices, a 90-day
reserve to satisfy China's current demand of 4 million barrels per
day would cost more than $10 billion - about the same amount as its
official defense expenditure for 2000.

But building up an oil stockpile scratches only the surface of the
country's strategy. Beijing must also develop reliable sources of
foreign oil. Some of the momentum behind the emerging strategic
alliance with Russia derives from China's oil needs. By carving out
a solid diplomatic relationship with a country that can supply oil
over land, China helps ensure that its resources won't be
jeopardized by conflicting interest.
http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/giu2000/030300a.ASP

Currently, plans exist for several oil and natural gas pipelines.
Two oil pipelines are under consideration, one originating in
Russia and the other in Kazakstan. They would begin construction
within the next five years and would each supply about half a
million barrels per day - not enough to keep up with the projected
demand.

Beijing will probably have to resort to importing oil by sea, where
the potential for interference makes the supply far more
vulnerable. Already, there are plans to import natural gas from a
port in Shenzhen, on China's southeastern coast. China's green-
water naval development will become increasingly crucial as the
country shifts toward reliance on the sealanes to supply its energy
needs. http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/giu2000/012600.ASP

Without a stable oil supply, China cannot sufficiently expand its
forces to achieve its strategic goals. Yet, expanding its forces -
in particular, its navy - is critical to creating that stable
supply. Until China can better control the seas, it will
concentrate on land sources of oil; partnerships with oil-producing
nations like Russia will become essential. As China's oil needs
increase, it must take on a far more assertive regional role - or
at least, as assertive a role as it can afford.



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[CTRL] JACK MCLAMB SAYS - NOT SO TO GILLESPIE'S TALES ABOUT HIM COL. BO

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JACK MCLAMB SAYS  - "NOT SO"  TO  GILLESPIE'S  TALES  ABOUT  HIM  COL.
BO

  My and Bo Gritz's old buddy Jerry Gillespie seems to now be
working hard to destroy not just Bo, but, any relationships between him and
his friends and supporters.I'm in the barrel this week, as I understand
that Jerry has said some things that are either not true, half truths, or
"twisted the meaning" of some of the conversations he and I had about his and
Bo's break-up several years ago.
  I cannot understand why Jerry thinks that by destroying my
relationship with brother Bo will somehow, help him in trying to perhaps,
redeem himself, or purge his soul, over going to Conneticut and testifying
falsely against Bo at trial.
  I just heard about this and don't have any time to deal with
this at this time - as I have to go out of town tonight, and will not be back
until Monday next week.   But, this latest tale of twisting of my words,
false, and/  misleading tale about me saying brother Bo "is a liar",... "Bo
tried to get me and others to commit crimes" and that "I asked for a meeting
with Jerry to get together to talk about Bo's lies" is utterly false and has
to be challenged before it gets legs.
 Anyone that knows of brother Bo and my close relationship, for
all these years, would know that I would not accuse him of such things or
such activities - to anyone.But, for those who don't know of our
relationship, for the record, I have never said "that Bo ever tried to get me
to commit a crime".  And I have never said "that Col. Bo is a liar."
  Jerry and Mary Gillespie were my friends for many years, and
along with Bo and Claudia, we have grieved over the problems that occurred in
that relationship and the destruction of our long friendship.
  Now, that Bo, Jim and Sheldon, have been exonerated, it would
be good if all of us could focus on America's substantial ills again.You
can bet, our nation's enemies love to see us trying to destroy each other
rather than focusing our limited resources on them.

 Yours in
Freedom,
 Jack
McLamb




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[CTRL] Secret operation in Costa Rica Bungled military shipment

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Secret operation in Costa Rica Bungled military shipment
exposed presence of base

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By David M. Bresnahan
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A shipment of Humvees and other military equipment was sent in error from the
U.S. directly into Costa Rica, inadvertently exposing the existence of a
secret operation there, according to government sources.
Although the supplies are now being held by customs agents and cannot be
released until a fee has been paid and papers signed, the U.S. military
cannot acknowledge the equipment because it does not have permission to be in
Costa Rica.

Military sources told WorldNetDaily that incompetence caused the error, and
that the supplies should have been flown in secretly to avoid exposing the
operation. If the U.S. does not claim the equipment within 60 to 90 days, it
will be sold at auction to the highest bidder.

The embarrassing situation is just one of a string of events that upset
veteran military and intelligence sources who have spoken with WorldNetDaily
on condition of anonymity.

"We lost the element of surprise. The whole world knows we're there, so
there's no danger in telling the story," one military source reassured
WorldNetDaily.

"This is not a surprise to any of us who've been around for a while. The
military is filled with, well, let's just say a lower quality soldier than
what we need. Mistakes like this are not unusual," said the officer.

Operation Channel is the code name being used to refer to the once-secret
operation taking place in Costa Rica. A multinational military force, headed
by the U.S. Army, has been gathering soldiers and equipment in a remote area.
Sources would not provide details of the plans, but indicated it is for
logistical support if action is needed in Panama.

When the U.S. relinquished control of the Panama Canal on January 1, it lost
a military presence there. This new secret base gives the U.S. a place to
coordinate both sea and land forces for possible problems in the area if
needed.

WorldNetDaily first became aware of a secret operation in Costa Rica when
press reports told of the crash of a tourist plane on which former CIA
director Stansfield Turner was a passenger on January 15.

Turner was nearly killed in the crash -- his wife Karen died instantly along
with Sigifred and Therese Richert, and Antonio Sanchez Diaz. The pilot, Cleto
Miranda Luna, died of his injuries on February 2. There were 12 others who
were injured on board the plane and one on the ground.

The plane was a Czechoslovakian-built Taxi Aereo Centroamericano LET 410. It
was a small charter plane available for hire at the Tobias Bolanos airport in
San Jose, Costa Rica. Employees at the airport and the airline said they had
often done business with the CIA.

The CIA refused to confirm or deny press reports of the crash at the time. An
intelligence source told WorldNetDaily that the CIA could not admit any
knowledge of the crash because all the passengers were intelligence
operatives who were in the country illegally.

"The (Costa Rican) law requires all intelligence people from all countries to
register. The people on that plane had not done that, so they (CIA) couldn't
admit they even knew they were in the country," explained an intelligence
source.

Turner, who is also a retired admiral, was serving as a consultant for the
Department of Defense, not for the CIA. His role was to help locate a
suitable location for logistical support for Operation Channel.

The CIA reportedly is involved in Operation Channel only as a resource to the
military for intelligence information.

"This is a military operation, not an intelligence operation. The problem is
poorly trained troops, and an international force that can't decide who is in
charge," said the intelligence source.

It is not legal for U.S. military to be present in Costa Rica, or to be a
part of a multinational force, without an act of Congress. The U.S. can,
however, participate in drug enforcement-related activities without special
congressional action. The Drug Enforcement Agency was not aware of any such
operation, but a military source told WorldNetDaily that the "DEA has agents
present."

Several possible locations for a secret military base allegedly were to be
evaluated by Turner and his group. The pilot was specifically selected for
his knowledge of the potential areas and was substituted at the last minute
before the flight took off.

Previous monitoring sites in the area have been closed since 1995, which
would enable Turner's flight to perform low-level flights without detection.

The base for Operation Channel has since been located near Liberia, Costa
Rica. The U.S. Embassy has been reported to be holding reservations at hotels
in the area. Vegetation has been burned, bulldozers 

[CTRL] China Trade Bill Gaining Support

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China Trade Bill Gaining Support
Associated Press Online - March 09, 2000 16:41
By TOM RAUM

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton administration's China trade bill appears to
have enough support to pass the Senate, if narrowly, according to an informal
head count by Senate sponsors. Support in the House remained in doubt.

Senate supporters of the measure count 60 votes in favor of the pact, just
enough to stop potential delaying tactics by opponents, congressional
officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity said on Wednesday.

The count suggests that about 30 senators oppose the legislation and about 10
are undecided, the officials said.

President Clinton sent the legislation, which would grant China permanent
normal trade relations, to Congress on Wednesday and was pressing for a final
vote in both chambers before Memorial Day.

The bill would give China the same permanent trade benefits it grants most
other nations. China's trade status now must be renewed annually.

The legislation is required under a market-opening agreement the
administration struck with China last year to allow Beijing to join the World
Trade Organization, the Geneva-based international organization that oversees
world trade rules.

But given the opposition from organized labor and other interest groups, the
debate is shaping up as the biggest battle of the election-year Congress.

House Democratic Whip David Bonior, D-Mich., has predicted that as many as
two-thirds of House Democrats would oppose the legislation. That cast doubt
on whether Republican leaders could win passage of the measure given the slim
GOP margin of control.

There are 222 Republicans, 211 Democrats and two independents in the House.

At the White House, presidential spokesman Joe Lockhart on Thursday said it's
"early now to start trying to count heads. And I would suggest that anyone
whose putting head count numbers out now is speculating rather than providing
real solid information."

"We'll continue to make that case. And we're hoping that, you know, sometime
in the spring, we can bring this to a vote," Lockhart said.

At the same time, Commerce Secretary William Daley told reporters after a
speech to a business group, "We probably don't have the votes right now" in
the House to win. "It's very fluid."

In remarks to the American Council of Life Insurance, Daley predicted, "This
battle will be over one way or another by Memorial Day."

Daley plans to lead a group of lawmakers to China in April, one of several
trips planned by the administration in its lobbying campaign.

The trade legislation only requires a majority vote in both chambers.

Because Senate opponents are expected to try to use delaying tactics to stall
the proposal, supporters effectively need 60 votes rather than 51 to be able
to prevail on motions to limit debate. Those motions require three-fifths of
the Senate, or 60 votes.

Senate support for the package is stronger than House support.
Trade-liberalizing measures traditionally enjoy more support in the Senate
than in the House. But Senate Finance Committee Chairman William Roth,
R-Del., warned the administration last week not to take Senate support for
granted.

The informal head count suggesting sponsors barely have the 60 votes needed
suggests that the fight will be a close one even in the Senate.




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[CTRL] China will retaliate if trade status fails

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China will retaliate if trade status fails
By Carter Dougherty
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhu Bangzao Thursday signaled in
Beijing that American firms will be hit hard if Congress does not extend
unconditional and permanent normal trade relations (NTR) to China.
 "If this issue cannot be thoroughly resolved, it will be detrimental to
the interest of U.S. enterprises in China," Mr. Zhu said.
 The threats directed at American businesses highlighted the unusual
political dynamic in the debate over NTR. The Chinese government has made
little effort to be heard in Washington.
 Instead, the American business community, along with the Clinton
administration, is doing the heavy lifting. Given the prize at stake —access
to a market of 1.2 billion people — business needs little prodding, but the
Chinese government does let U.S. companies know their lobbying services are
appreciated.
 President Clinton formally kicked off the administration's campaign to
secure permanent NTR for China in a major policy address on Tuesday. The
White House wants Congress to abolish the annual review of China's NTR
status, a move that would allow the United States to support Chinese
membership in the World Trade Organization under the terms of a November
agreement.
 By most estimates, U.S. companies are plowing $10 million into the
campaign, and just this week, the Business Roundtable, the leading industry
group on trade policy, announced a $1.5 million advertising campaign in
support of NTR.
 "The bulk of the effort [to secure NTR] has always been undertaken by
the companies that do business in China," said Nicholas Lardy, a specialist
on China at the Brook-ings Institution.
 The Chinese have shown little appreciation for the role that Congress
plays in formulating U.S. foreign policy, Mr. Lardy said. The congressional
relations department in the Chinese Embassy has typically been "short on
staff and talent," he said.
 However, Chinese outreach efforts on Capitol Hill have steadily
increased in recent years, according to congressional and industry sources.
About five years ago, the Chinese beefed up their congressional relations
department.
 "There are more and more issues in Sino-American relations that need
discussion," said Shuning Yu, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy.
 But China makes little, if any, use of the typical tools of foreign
governments that want their views known in Washington, according to those
familiar with Sino-American relations. China retains the services of at least
two Washington law firms, but their work for the Chinese is limited to
technical advice, according to lawyers managing the accounts.
 "They don't send us up to the Hill to lobby for them," said Brenda
Jacobs of Powell, Goldstein, Frazier and Murphy. Ms. Jacobs is part of a team
that advises the Chinese commercial office, an entity physically separate
from the embassy, on textile trade issues.
 The law firm of Jones, Day, Reavis and Pogue also does advisory work for
the Chinese government, according to Herbert Hansell, who manages the account.
 The muted Chinese presence in Washington stands in stark contrast to
that of the Taiwanese, who employ a small army of public relations firms to
make their case for close relations with the United States, Mr. Lardy said.
 There are few complaints that the Chinese are not more active, since the
presence of Chinese diplomats in the halls of Congress can hurt causes more
than help them, business sources said.
 "The hard-core lobbying on [permanent NTR for China] is not up to the
Chinese, it's up to the administration and the American business community,"
said Myron Brilliant of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
 Apart from public statements such as those by Mr. Zhu Thursday, Chinese
officials tend to push U.S. firms in a subtle but unmistakable manner,
according to industry sources.
 One lobbyist compared the Chinese behavior to the White House. By law,
executive branch officials cannot ask business to lobby Congress. But by
emphasizing the importance they place on an issue, administration officials
can send a clear signal to even the most politically tone-deaf lobbyist.
 The Chinese work in a similar manner, business representatives said. For
example, in early 1995, then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Georgia Republican,
publicly deviated from the strict "One China" policy.
 This policy, a staple of Sino-American relations, dictates that the
United States will recognize only mainland China as the true representative
of the Chinese people. China has consistently threatened the United States
against any deviation from this policy.
 Following Mr. Gingrich's remarks, "the seriousness of the issue was
conveyed to the business community" by Chinese officials, one 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1

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SkeptiNews 000310a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No parasitic diseases were engineered during production of this bulletin.
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@ Protect trees: http://mmind.themes.tucows.com/zips/fantasy/BUBBLETREE.ZIP
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# POLICE MOBILIZED AS UFO HOVERS OVER MEXICO CITY - it hovered over soccer
  field on the grounds of the Center of Technical Research  Investigation.
  But "when (Mexican police) agents tried to enter the building to reach the
  football field, they were kept from doing so by members of the building's
  security force." Cops' watches stopped: http://www.caus.org/mu030900.htm

# Malaysia UFO Landing Report. It's UFO, claim Kampung folk. TANAH MERAH,
  KELANTAN: A large object emitting rays of light was reported to have lan-
  ded on a piece of marshland here 3 days ago, holding some 1,000 people of
  Kampung Gobek in a state of high suspense. http://caus.org/mu031000.htm

: Would you rather hover/land your UFO at a university, marshland, military
base, suburb, toxic dump, nude beach, cemetery, desert, insane asylum, coca
plantation, freeway, UFOlogy gathering, crack house, pinball parlor, farm??

@ UFO Enigma: New Review of Physical Evidence: http://caus.org/pn030900.htm
@ "What's Up With This "9" Thing, Anyway?" Synchronicity ("meaningful coin-
  cidence") of the number "9" and language: http://www.caus.org/cz031000.htm
@ Myth, Meaning, and Memory on Roman Sarcophagi - An Alien Viewpoint? See
  www-ucpress.berkeley.edu:3030/dynaweb/public/books/classics/koortbojian
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# Was Evolution Of Life Advanced By Comet Showers? Researchers analyzing the
  history of impact cratering on the moon has reported a surprising increase
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  seeded by extraterrestrials? http://unisci.com/stories/20001/0310001.htm

# 5-5-2000 Doomsday Planetary Alignment - Scientists Again Say 'No Way'.
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@ ALIGNMENT: http://www.calendersign.ric.at/english/alignment2000random.htm

: Are you aided/doomed/evolved by planetary/celestial events? Does a strong
planetary alignment attract life-giving comet showers? D'ya prefer showers
of comets, acid rain, frogs, angelpiss? D'ya comet-shower with a friend??

# Air pollution stops rain. (BBC) Urban and industrial air pollution can
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  see http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_672000/672802.stm
# Also - Indonesia faces new smog menace - everyone will suffocate, die:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_672000/672633.stm
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# DID MONKEY SERUM IN A VACCINE CAUSE HIV? Research has traced the origins
  of HIV to primates in Africa, and from there it spread to human beings,
  but not from a bad batch of vaccines. It is not unusual for a disease to
  mutate, enabling it to be spread from one species to another. Now eat an
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# Over 20% of South African Teen Girls Now Have AIDS - steep rise blamed on
  sexual myths: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2308/hl/pse_2.html
# Discovery Re: Feline Leukemia Virus May Shed Light On Mechanics Of Hiv
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# Nearly 400,000 Accidental NeedleSticks To US HealthWorkers Yearly; exposed
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human populations in balance? If we conquer disease, will Earth be swamped?

# Egypt's Health Campaign Spread Hep. (BBC) Research reveals a link between
  Egypt's hepatitis crisis  an earlier campaign against parasite bilharzia.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_672000/672241.stm
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# Brains grow furiously. (AP) - Children's brains change dramatically in key
  areas into puberty, says a new study that contradicts some long-standing
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  "fine-tuning" - surprised scientists doing the study. The changes 

[CTRL] Pentagon worried by rapid N. Korean military buildup

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Pentagon worried by rapid N. Korean military buildup

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, March 10, 2000
WASHINGTON -- Even as U.S.- North Korea talks continue in New York, Pentagon
officials are expressing alarm at Pyongyang's huge military buildup.

U.S. Gen. Thomas Schwartz, commander of American forces in Korea, told the
Senate Armed Services Committee that Pyongyang is the "country most likely to
involve the United States in a large-scale war." He said that despite a
collapsing economy Pyongyang invests most of its resources in the military.

Schwartz said North Korea's military is the fifth largest in the world with
one million soldiers, 1,600 aircraft and more than 800 naval ships and 12,000
self-propelled and towed weapon systems. He said Pyongyang's missile
inventory contains more than 500 Scud missiles and that North Korea continues
to produce and deploy medium-range No Dong missiles capable of striking
United States bases in Japan.

Negotiations are being conducted to improve relations and ensure U.S. and
other international aid to Pyongyang. The talks are taking place in New York
and involve the first-ever visit of a high-ranking North Korean official to
the United States.

U.S. officials have been skeptical of the North Korean bid for aid saying
they are concerned that Pyongyang will find a way to divert Western
assistance to help fund military programs. The United States, Japan and South
Korea have pledged billions of dollars for North Korea to end its nuclear
weapons programs.

"They show no intentions to reform," Schwartz told the Senate panel on
Tuesday. "We must consider that the North Korean economy could break down
completely, precipitating social chaos and threatening the existence of the
regime itself. The situation on peninsula remains volatile, unpredictable,
and dangerous."

The general said North Korean ruler Kim Chong Il "will clearly sacrifice
popular welfare to continue his 'military first' policy." He said Pyongyang's
military goal is to "reunify the peninsula by force" in a strategy based on
surprise, a short war and the prevention of the arrival of U.S.
reinforcements on the peninsula.

"In the last 12 months, North Korea has done more to arrest a decline in
readiness and to improve its military capability than in the last five years
combined," he said. "Highlighting these enhancements is an ambitious program
to improve ground forces capabilities. A key component of this initiative
involves the deployment of large numbers of long-range 240mm multiple rocket
launcher systems and 170mm self-propelled guns to hardened sites located near
the Demilitarized Zone."

He said North Korea has tested the Taepo Dong, with a range of 2,000
kilometers, and the Taepo Dong, with a range of more than 5,000 kilometers.
The general said North Korea "is one of the world's largest missile
proliferators and sells its missiles and technology to anyone with hard
currency."

The talks in New York represent one aspect of North Korea's opening to the
West, officials said. They said a delegation of four North Korean Foreign
Ministry officials ended a visit to Canada as part of a renewed dialogue with
Ottawa. In January, Italy established diplomatic relations with North Korea.




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[CTRL] CIA girls gets away with Murder! Prosecuter says he is pleased

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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CIA girls gets away with Murder!
Prosecuter says he is pleased

"When it comes to drug smugglers and politicians, there's no such thing as
'Six Degrees of Separation."
--Palm Beach private investigator.

Susan Cummings, the now-notorious "CIA  girl," shot  and killed Roberto
Villegas, her polo-player boyfriend, at her Virgina horse country estate last
September. Testimony at the trial revealed that, methodically and in a
pre-meditated fashion, she executed the hapless Roberto as he sat defenseless
at her kitchen table.

No doubt Roberto--in his last few moments of life—was   stupefied to learn
just how brutally efficient a killing weapon the Walther semi-automatic is,
especially in Susan’s practiced hands.
But then when you’re the daughter, like Susan, of a CIA arms dealer, Samuel
Cummings, owner of Interarms, the largest private company in the largest
business on the planet today, you can probably get them to squeeze you in a
little practice time at the range.
Just a few months ago...just  this past spring... Susan was convicted. Of
manslaughter.
A blemish. But she’ll live.
And then, in a tribute to the fairness American judicial system, Susan did
her time.
Though well-born, well-off, and the daughter of a government insider, she
paid her debt to society.

All six weeks of it.



For some definitive answers to the question of just how far we have slid from
the democratic ideal of our Forefathers, one need look no further than the
trial of Susan Cummings.
When it opened, it got coverage in all the "just right" international
newspapers, as well as on the network television programs and glossy
magazines of the tittilated lower classes.

CIA Girl, Come Fly with Me!

The attention was both because of what she had done—brutally and almost
offhandedly murdered her boyfriend while he sat at her kitchen table—and
because of who she was-- an example of the world’s newest royalty, an American
 CIA Princess.

A small battalion of sheriff's deputies surrounded the courthouse as Susan’s
murder trial began, standing ready to demand order from throngs of media and
curiosity seekers.
"Looky-loos" jostled with reporters from CBS News, the New York Times, even
papers in Argentina and London.

Although a small handful of Cummings supporters usually milled around, there
was a noticeable lack of locals in the reserved seats. Susan led a
moreinternationally-flavored life.


"Pardoneez-goddam-moi."

In fact, as Susan and Diana Cummings led Sheriff's Sgt. Cuno Andersen to the
body of Roberto Villegas, he testified, the twin sisters were talking in
French.

That didn't sit well with Sgt. Andersen, the first deputy to arrive at
Ashland Farm on the morning of the shooting.

"They were speaking a foreign language I didn't understand," Sgt. Andersen
said, haltingly. "I told them to stop . . . that if they were going to talk
they had to do it in English."
Sgt. Andersen did what sergeants do: summoned the sheriff's criminal
investigations division to the scene. Within an hour, investigators arrived
at the $2.3 million estate and placed the 35-year-old heiress under arrest.
They charged her with first-degree murder and use of a firearm in the
commission of a felony.
She had shot Mr. Villegas four times in the kitchen of her Ashland Farm
estate. If convicted, she could receive a life prison sentence. The daughter
of wealthy international arms dealer Sam Cummings spent the night in the
county jail.
The next day she gained her release.
And this is where our story really begins... because this is where Susan
pulled out her all-access pass to ConnectedLand.


"This pass lets you go to the front of the line, Miss."


The strange case of CIA girl Susan Cummings encouraged more than usual
speculation in the tonier precints of our nation's capital about several inter
esting questions.
For instance, why were Susan and her sister speaking French when the police
arrived? Shouldn't the daughter of a top CIA gunpusher be required to speak
English?
One thought: the Normans--who conquered England back in the Middle
Ages--spoke French among themselves. Had President Clinton signed an
executive order declaring a new Dark Ages across the arguably-great and
certainly-majestic continent of North America?
There had, after all been a lot of talk on the  Internet---that darn
Internet, again!--about an ominous development called the New "World Order,"
that had a sort of hazy definition that included Bilderburgers  and
bungeejumpers and what-not.
But speaking French sounded too extreme even for that crowd,  so the betting
was that the sisters  just didn't want the snoopy cop to know what they were
talking about.



CIA Girl Wandering 

[CTRL] Feds Spirited Body, Door Away at Waco, Trooper Says

2000-03-10 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/3/10/52116

Feds Spirited Body, Door Away at Waco, Trooper Says

   NewsMax.com
   Friday, March 10, 2000

   In startling testimony, a Texas state trooper told
   lawyers that what appeared to be a body and a
   missing door were spirited away from the Waco
   scene just before troopers took over the Mt. Carmel
   site from the FBI.

   Sgt. David Keys also stunned lawyers and government
   attorneys in the wrongful death case filed by survivors
   of the Branch Davidian sect when he testified that he
   overheard FBI agents talking about a "fire fight” taking
   place in the rear of the compound. The government
   has insisted there had been no gunfire in that area
   despite infrared evidence indicating there had been.

   Keys, a 17-year veteran of the Texas Department of
   Public Safety, said that about 4 p.m. on April 19, over
   an hour before Texas Rangers took possession of
   the Mt. Carmel site, his superiors ordered him to
   permit a white van to enter the area "to pick up a
   body,” according to James Brannon, an attorney for
   the plaintiffs. The trooper said he saw an empty body
   bag inside the van.

   When the white van left the compound, Keys said he
   saw the body bag containing what looked like the
   shape of a corpse, Brannon said.

   "The van that Keys saw could only have been kept
   secret, at that level, by the military," Brannon told
   reporters. "If somebody was killed, they could just say
   that he was killed in a training accident. It's a mystery
   who it was and we're waiting for somebody in the
   government to tell us."

   "Keys also says that he saw something as big as a
   door being loaded into a U-Haul truck. One of the
   doors from Mount Carmel has been missing since the
   day of the fire — the door that might prove that during
   the Feb. 28 raid, the ATF fired first," Brannon added.

   Keys also testified that earlier on April 19, 1993, while
   he was at the DPS Waco commando center, he
   overheard an FBI agent say that a "firefight" was
   under way at the back of the Mount Carmel
   compound, Brannon said.

   It has been alleged that the feds fired upon the rear of
   the Mount Carmel site in the final moments of the
   tank-and-tear-gas assault of April 19, in what may
   have been an effort to prevent any of the Davidians
   from leaving the inferno alive.

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[CTRL] [5] GREENSPAN REPORTEDLY AIDS AND BRIBES GEORGE BUSH and FAMILY

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan

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GREENSPAN REPORTEDLY AIDS AND BRIBES
GEORGE BUSH and FAMILY, Part Five

by Sherman H. Skolnick

In the 1950s, George Herbert Walker Bush got into the oil business with his
partners, the Liedtke brothers. Bush was assisted by his father, Prescott
Bush, Sr., who was one of Adolph Hitler's bankers jointly with the Bush
relative, George Herbert Walker.

Also greatly assisting Bush was Eugene Meyer who had reportedly built up his
fortune by massive fraud misusing Liberty War Bonds, used to suck money out
of common Americans with the then new, conspiratorial Federal Reserve, all
used to finance and force Americans to fight in England and Europe's
bloodbath, World War One. With his loot, Meyer bought the then failing
Washington Post newspaper. Meyer's daughter, Katherine Graham, became
publicly known as if she were the sole "owner" of the Post, despite the fact
that British royalty had a large financial interest in the Post and later,
sister publication Newsweek Magazine. Suppressed was the first edition of a
book that showed the Washington Post was a front for the American CIA, Deborah
 Davis' book "Katherine the Great".

Much later, Bush brought in numerous British royalty into his oil ventures.
Later, Bush was given honorary title by the Queen. Yet, the U.S.
Constitution, Article 1, Section 9, forbids U.S. officials to have titles of
nobility and be beholden to foreign kings and princes. And Bush is a distant
cousin of the Queen of England. As we pointed out in earlier parts of this
series, according to the secret Federal Reserve bank wire transfers, Bush had
a joint account with the Queen of England in the British Monarchy-owned
Coutts Bank, London. As arranged by Alan Greenspan, using his secret
codes,directly supervising the same. This, in part, facilitated British
Counter-Intelligence operatives, M1-6, to do bloody, dirty tricks against
U.S. citizens IN THE UNITED STATES, such as in heavy Irish Catholic populated
areas like Chicago, where a per centage of the Irish sympathize with
anti-crown, anti-British IRA. M1-6 works directly under the orders of the
Monarchy. [Al Fayed claims they murdered his son Dodi and intended, pregnant
wife Princess Diana of Wales. Visit his website: http://www.alfayed.com]

Following World War Two, Bush's elders were instrumental in bringing to the
U.S. and South America, the surviving anti-Soviet Nazi intelligence
apparatus, the Gehlen Organization. This under the auspices of the American
CIA and U.S. Military Intelligence. U.S., Argentina, and Brazil became a base
for such post-war Nazi operations. [I tried to expose the U.S. operation
through a seminar in Chicago, 1976, and, strange as it may seem to naive
people, I was opposed by the Jewish aristocracy in Chicago, not the common
people.] Finding new oilfields within the continental U.S. was declining.
Bush and his cronies realized that the new, mammoth oil finds would be
offshore under hundreds of feet of war in the continental shelf or the
shallow waters of the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. The name of the
Liedtke/Bush operation was changed from Zapata Petroleum Company to Zapata
Offshore. The Liedtkes went on to supposedly form a separate firm, Pennzoil,
although Bush had a large financial interest in that company as well.

Soon,Zapata had some 600 units and affiliates. Strange, but they seemed to
set up shop often in the world hotspots and places of insurgency against
colonial rulers. Zapata reportdly was a CIA proprietary, a supposedly
"private" firm acting as an adjunct to the spy agency and espionage bloody
tricks. Thus Bush was with CIA long, long before becoming Director of Central
Intelligence for eleven and a half months in 1976. Thereafter, by the way, he
became a director for about 4 years, of Eli Lilly Company, major producer of
cocaine, supposedly for pharmaceutical purposes.

Being beyond the U.S. jurisdiction limits, Zapata's offshore oil rigs
reportedly became drop-off points by ship and helicopter for contraband,
including transit points for the major dope traffic. Reportedly assisting in
the dope traffic from Colombia and Venezuela was George Herbert Walker Bush's
son, John E. Bush, called Jeb and his Mexico-born wife, Columba. Jeb was the
resident banker for Texas Commerce Bank. Like the bribery of judges, the
major proceeds from the dope traffic are not out in an alley, but through
banks owned and operated by the corrupters. [In an earlier story, by error, I
said his wife was born in Colombia.]

Bush/Liedtke/Pennzoil got a hammer-lock on a company much larger than
Pennzoil. How? By Pennzoil bringing a suit in the crooked Texas courts
claiming that the huge Texaco Company wrongly interfered with Pennzoil's
purported contract to acquire and merge with Getty Oil Company. A Texas 

Re: [CTRL] [WW] Campaign grows to stop executions

2000-03-10 Thread DIG alfred webre

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 -
 Via Workers World News Service
 Reprinted from the Mar. 16, 2000
 issue of Workers World newspaper
 -

 PROTESTERS TO HOUND PRO-DEATH-PENALTY CANDIDATES:
 CAMPAIGN GROWS TO STOP EXECUTIONS

 By Workers World Houston bureau

 Over 300 people demonstrated at the governor's mansion in   Austin, Texas,
March 4. The crowd, mostly youths,
surrounded the mansion--one square block. They chanted,  drummed and spoke,
denouncing Gov. George W. Bush and calling for a moratorium on executions.
The action was called by the Campaign to End the Death Penalty.

 Njeri Shakur of the Texas Death Penalty Abolition Movement  received an
ovation when she spoke about how death-row prisoners Ponchai "Kamau"
Wilkerson and Howard Guidry carried out a courageous death-row
demonstration. On Feb. 21-22, Wilkerson and Guidry took a prison guard
hostage for 13 hours to protest the railroading of youth onto death row.

 The two prisoners called for a moratorium on executions.

 Shakur, along with SHAPE Community Center Director Deloyd   Parker and the
National Black United Front's Kofi Tahara,  met with the two prisoners and
presented their demands to  prison officials. The guard was released
unharmed.

 Shakur and other speakers called for a nationwide campaign   to "hound
Bush" as he campaigns for the presidency.

Hundreds in Austin signed a petition circulated by the new   Texas Death
Penalty Moratorium Committee. The committee was initiated by former
death-row prisoner Clarence Brandley, Muhammad Mosque #45 in Houston, the
Abolition Movement, Harris County Green Party, SHAPE and others.

 Governor Bush is drawing fire worldwide for the rapid pace of executions
and lack of due process in Texas. Opponents point to the lack of a
public-defender system for indigent prisoners--the vast majority of those
who wind up facing the death penalty. Bush vetoed legislation to create a
public defender system last year.

He has presided over 122 executions since he took office. Another 458
prisoners await execution.

All the women and men on death row are poor and working-class people.
Forty-one percent of death-row inmates are African Americans--but only 12
percent of Texas' population are Black.

ABOLITIONIST NJERI SHAKUR TARGETED

On March 8, the state of Texas lashed out at Njeri Shakur.  Judge Jan
Krocker charged Shakur with contempt of court and sentenced her to 30 days
in jail.

Shakur, a grandmother, is to spend four weeks behind bars for objecting to
Krocker's racist conduct at a Feb. 8 hearing. Krocker, who is white, let
prison guards beat
African-Asian prisoner Ponchai "Kamau" Wilkerson after she set his execution
date.

"Judge Krocker is known here in Houston," said Gloria
 Rubac of the Texas Death Penalty Abolition Movement. "Her   reputation is
one of extreme brutality in a city known for it's judicial misconduct and
racism."

Shakur's supporters say the jail sentence is retaliation
for her leadership in building community support for a
 moratorium on executions.

Representing the Abolition Movement, Shakur filed a
 complaint against Wilkerson's court-appointed attorney,
 Troy McKinney, with the Texas Bar Association Feb. 29.   Shakur and
Millions for Mumia's Greg Butterfield said McKinney had refused to file a
petition for executive
clemency.

 Krocker told Shakur's attorney she was locking up the
 abolitionist to prevent her from protesting at Wilkerson's
 March 14 execution.

 Activists here said Krocker's repression won't quell the
 movement to stop executions.

 "Gov. Bush wants quiet on his home front while he
 campaigns for president," said Johnnie Stevens of People's Video Network.
"But he's not going to get any."

 Rubac and Stevens said their organizations would campaign for Njeri
Shakur's freedom and hound Krocker. "We are going to expose her," Rubac
said.

 Others joining in defense of Shakur include SHAPE
 Community Center, the Justice for Pedro Oregon Committee,  and Houstonians
United for Mumia.

 BARNES: `CONTINUE THE STRUGGLE'

 At the Austin rally a young woman spoke for the Committee for Justice in
France. The Committee for Justice raised more that $85,000 to aid attorneys
investigating the case of Odell Barnes.

 Barnes was executed in Huntsville March 1.

 A young Black man, Barnes was proven innocent by DNA tests paid for by the
French group. The weekly Houston Press ran a cover story on the new evidence
in late January,  including the likelihood that blood on Barnes' overalls
was planted there in a police laboratory.

The Texas courts, the Board of Pardons and Paroles, and  Bush refused to act
on this evidence. Bush ignored pleas from French President Jacques Chirac
and the European Union Parliament asking for clemency.

On the death-chamber gurney, Barnes told his family and
supporters: "I thank you for proving my innocence, although it has not been
acknowledged by the courts.

"May you continue 

Re: [CTRL] ReichstagFire.CoM

2000-03-10 Thread Bob Stokes

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In a message dated 00-03-09 17:14:24 EST, you write:

 Ah, yes ... the 'new' management style and I am a veteran thereof.  In the
 'old' style, situations would develop at which point one would 'gather the
 facts'.  Now, it's a matter of creating the facts, develop the situation,
then
 be the first one to be able to assess, evaluate same then recommend a
solution.
 While everyone else is puzzled over how the situation got going and out of
hand
 in the first place, the 'manager' takes charge and effects solutions.  This
is
 also called 'planning' through a personal 'brainstorming' session.  Sometimes
 it takes a few allies to complete the scene but the end result is usually the
 same.  It's along the same lines a 'make work' but a 'controlling' emphasis.

 It's fun with the young ones when they do it; they think they invented a new
 game. 

Aren't managers wonderful, they "manage" to steal the earnings of the workers
that do the actual labor that make the "managers" look good ... and, the
managers don't even have to get their hands dirty, just lower their morals a
bit.  Who invented managers??? Government?

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Maybe we should ask Khazar University (It has a web site). The "Law of
Return" is one of the Constitutional documents of Israel. If I remember
correctly it emphasizes (Anti-Christ) Jewish religion and not biological
race. I think it says if you have a Jewish mother you are considered to be
a Jew (one criterion) but only if you haven't converted to another
religion. I suppose some world religions are exempt in practice but not
Christianity. Thus the Cohen written up in the local BC Christian News
recently as a convert to Christianity is now excommunicated and does not
have aliyeh rights. His biology hasn't changed. These Jews for Jesus are
Pro-Christ Jews by their self-description but they are rejected by the
Anti-Christ Jews. This is because the teachings of Christ are regarded
as BLASPHEMY by the Israeli Establishment. "God CANNOT be manifested in a
human being" is the succint explanation I think. However, I have yet to
encounter a rabbi on the Internet who could defend such a theology. If you
find one put him on.
FWP.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, William Shannon wrote:

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 By: Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal


 Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal, historian, journalist and lecturer, is a graduate
 of Cornell University and Columbia Law School. During the Second World War,
 he served with the US Army in the Middle East. He later served with the
 Department of State, and as a consultant to the American delegation at the
 organising meeting of the United Nations in San Francisco.

 Since 1947, he has been at the forefront in the struggle for a balanced US
 policy in the Middle East. He is the author of several acclaimed books on the
 Middle East, including The Zionist Connection. He now lives in Washington, DC.

 On December 18, 1993 Dr. Lilienthal celebrated both his 80th birthday and the
 40th anniversary of his first book, What Price 'Israel'? Dr Lilienthal, who
 is a courageous anti-Zionist Jew, was joined by more than 200 guests who
 travelled from all over the United States to attend. The following excerpt is
 taken from this first book, What Price 'Israel'?

 

 Today, to trace anyone's descent to ancient Palestine would be a genealogical
 impossibility; and to presume, axiomatically, such a descent for Jews, alone
 among all human groups, is an assumption of purely fictional significance.
 Most everybody in the Western world could stake out some claim of Palestinian
 descent if genealogical records could be established for two-thousand years.
 And there are, indeed, people who, though not by the widest stretch of
 imagination Jewish, proudly make that very claim: some of the oldest of the
 South's aristocratic families play a game of comparing whose lineage goes
 farther back into 'Israel'. No one knows what happened to the Ten Lost Tribes
 of 'Israel', but to speculate on who might be who is a favored Anglo-Saxon
 pastime, and Queen Victoria belonged to an 'Israelite' Society that traced
 the ancestry of its membership back to those lost tribes.

 Twelve tribes started in Canaan about thirty-five centuries ago; and not only
 that ten of them disappeared - more than half of the members of the remaining
 two tribes never returned from their "exile" in Babylon. How then, can
 anybody claim to descend directly from that relatively small community which
 inhabited the Holy Land at the time of Abraham's Covenant with God?

 The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew,
 'Israelite', Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously
 to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to
 different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in
 history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning
 of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. 'Israelite' refers correctly
 to the members of the twelve tribes of 'Israel'. The name Yehudi or Jew is
 used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah,
 descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the
 Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian
 occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied to anyone, no
 matter of what origin, whose religion was Judaism.

 The descriptive name Judaism was never heard by the Hebrews or 'Israelites';
 it appears only with Christianity. Flavius Josephus was one of the first to
 use the name in his recital of the war with the Romans to connote a totality
 of beliefs, moral commandments, religious practices and ceremonial
 institutions of Galilee which he believed superior to rival Hellenism. When
 the word Judaism was born, there was no longer a Hebrew-'Israelite' state.
 The people who embraced the creed of Judaism were already mixed of many races
 and strains; 

[CTRL] [prj] WEB COVERUPS

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Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Maybe we should ask Khazar University (It has a web site). The "Law of
 Return" is one of the Constitutional documents of Israel. If I remember
 correctly it emphasizes (Anti-Christ) Jewish religion and not biological
 race. I think it says if you have a Jewish mother you are considered to be
 a Jew (one criterion) but only if you haven't converted to another
 religion. I suppose some world religions are exempt in practice but not
 Christianity. Thus the Cohen written up in the local BC Christian News
 recently as a convert to Christianity is now excommunicated and does not
 have aliyeh rights. His biology hasn't changed. These Jews for Jesus are
 Pro-Christ Jews by their self-description but they are rejected by the
 Anti-Christ Jews. This is because the teachings of Christ are regarded
 as BLASPHEMY by the Israeli Establishment. "God CANNOT be manifested in a
 human being" is the succint explanation I think. However, I have yet to
 encounter a rabbi on the Internet who could defend such a theology. If you
 find one put him on.
 FWP.

 On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, William Shannon wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  By: Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal
 
 
  Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal, historian, journalist and lecturer, is a graduate
  of Cornell University and Columbia Law School. During the Second World War,
  he served with the US Army in the Middle East. He later served with the
  Department of State, and as a consultant to the American delegation at the
  organising meeting of the United Nations in San Francisco.
 
  Since 1947, he has been at the forefront in the struggle for a balanced US
  policy in the Middle East. He is the author of several acclaimed books on the
  Middle East, including The Zionist Connection. He now lives in Washington, DC.
 
  On December 18, 1993 Dr. Lilienthal celebrated both his 80th birthday and the
  40th anniversary of his first book, What Price 'Israel'? Dr Lilienthal, who
  is a courageous anti-Zionist Jew, was joined by more than 200 guests who
  travelled from all over the United States to attend. The following excerpt is
  taken from this first book, What Price 'Israel'?
 
  
 
  Today, to trace anyone's descent to ancient Palestine would be a genealogical
  impossibility; and to presume, axiomatically, such a descent for Jews, alone
  among all human groups, is an assumption of purely fictional significance.

Maybe in the middle of the last century the good Doctor's statement
would have
been correct.

BUT NOT TODAY! Today, it has been done.

  Most everybody in the Western world could stake out some claim of Palestinian
  descent if genealogical records could be established for two-thousand years.



  And there are, indeed, people who, though not by the widest stretch of
  imagination Jewish, proudly make that very claim: some of the oldest of the
  South's aristocratic families play a game of comparing whose lineage goes
  farther back into 'Israel'. No one knows what happened to the Ten Lost Tribes
  of 'Israel', but to speculate on who might be who is a favored Anglo-Saxon
  pastime, and Queen Victoria belonged to an 'Israelite' Society that traced
  the ancestry of its membership back to those lost tribes.
 
  Twelve tribes started in Canaan about thirty-five centuries ago; and not only
  that ten of them disappeared - more than half of the members of the remaining
  two tribes never returned from their "exile" in Babylon. How then, can
  anybody claim to descend directly from that relatively small community which
  inhabited the Holy Land at the time of Abraham's Covenant with God?
 
  The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew,
  'Israelite', Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously
  to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to
  different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in
  history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning
  of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. 'Israelite' refers correctly
  to the members of the twelve tribes of 'Israel'. The name Yehudi or Jew is
  used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah,
  descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the
  Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian
  occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied to anyone, no
  matter of what origin, whose religion was Judaism.
 
  The descriptive name Judaism was never heard by the Hebrews or 'Israelites';
  it appears only with Christianity. Flavius Josephus was one of the first to
  use the name in his recital of the war with the Romans to connote a totality
  of 

[CTRL] Smart kids don't have sex

2000-03-10 Thread Yardbird

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/A -Cui Bono?-

I knew there was a correlation between Clinton's hyperactive sex-drive and
his diminished intellectual capacity...

SMARTER TEENS DELAY HAVING SEX
Smart kids delay having sex, according to a study of adolescent sexual
activity. "Higher intelligence is not associated with lesser sexual
interest, just with a postponement of acting on that interest," the
researchers note in their report, titled "Smart Teens Don't Have Sex
(or Kiss Much Either)."
http://list.brain.com/cgi-bin5/flo?x=doAAYBuBKwAmguud

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Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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/A -Cui Bono?-

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
 
  -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  Maybe we should ask Khazar University (It has a web site). The "Law of
  Return" is one of the Constitutional documents of Israel. If I remember
  correctly it emphasizes (Anti-Christ) Jewish religion and not biological
  race. I think it says if you have a Jewish mother you are considered to be
  a Jew (one criterion) but only if you haven't converted to another
  religion. I suppose some world religions are exempt in practice but not
  Christianity. Thus the Cohen written up in the local BC Christian News
  recently as a convert to Christianity is now excommunicated and does not
  have aliyeh rights. His biology hasn't changed. These Jews for Jesus are
  Pro-Christ Jews by their self-description but they are rejected by the
  Anti-Christ Jews. This is because the teachings of Christ are regarded
  as BLASPHEMY by the Israeli Establishment. "God CANNOT be manifested in a
  human being" is the succint explanation I think. However, I have yet to
  encounter a rabbi on the Internet who could defend such a theology. If you
  find one put him on.
  FWP.
 
  On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, William Shannon wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
   /A -Cui Bono?-
  
   By: Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal
  
  
   Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal, historian, journalist and lecturer, is a graduate
   of Cornell University and Columbia Law School. During the Second World War,
   he served with the US Army in the Middle East. He later served with the
   Department of State, and as a consultant to the American delegation at the
   organising meeting of the United Nations in San Francisco.
  
   Since 1947, he has been at the forefront in the struggle for a balanced US
   policy in the Middle East. He is the author of several acclaimed books on the
   Middle East, including The Zionist Connection. He now lives in Washington, DC.
  
   On December 18, 1993 Dr. Lilienthal celebrated both his 80th birthday and the
   40th anniversary of his first book, What Price 'Israel'? Dr Lilienthal, who
   is a courageous anti-Zionist Jew, was joined by more than 200 guests who
   travelled from all over the United States to attend. The following excerpt is
   taken from this first book, What Price 'Israel'?
  
   
  
   Today, to trace anyone's descent to ancient Palestine would be a genealogical
   impossibility; and to presume, axiomatically, such a descent for Jews, alone
   among all human groups, is an assumption of purely fictional significance.

 Maybe in the middle of the last century the good Doctor's statement
 would have
 been correct.

 BUT NOT TODAY! Today, it has been done.

What has been done? What is the evidence for biological lineage between
Israel today and Ancient Israel?
FWP.



   Most everybody in the Western world could stake out some claim of Palestinian
   descent if genealogical records could be established for two-thousand years.



   And there are, indeed, people who, though not by the widest stretch of
   imagination Jewish, proudly make that very claim: some of the oldest of the
   South's aristocratic families play a game of comparing whose lineage goes
   farther back into 'Israel'. No one knows what happened to the Ten Lost Tribes
   of 'Israel', but to speculate on who might be who is a favored Anglo-Saxon
   pastime, and Queen Victoria belonged to an 'Israelite' Society that traced
   the ancestry of its membership back to those lost tribes.
  
   Twelve tribes started in Canaan about thirty-five centuries ago; and not only
   that ten of them disappeared - more than half of the members of the remaining
   two tribes never returned from their "exile" in Babylon. How then, can
   anybody claim to descend directly from that relatively small community which
   inhabited the Holy Land at the time of Abraham's Covenant with God?
  
   The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew,
   'Israelite', Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously
   to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to
   different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in
   history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning
   of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. 'Israelite' refers correctly
   to the members of the twelve tribes of 'Israel'. The name Yehudi or Jew is
   used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah,
   descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the
   Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian
   occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied 

Re: [CTRL] Robert Cohen Responds To FWP (fwd)

2000-03-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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/A -Cui Bono?-

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:42:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Robert Cohen Responds To FWP

My reading of the Constitutional Documents of Israel is that the oath of
office for high officials to "do all they can for the benefit of the State
of Israel" is more important than the Law of Return. Suggestion: Best
thing to do for Israel now is to turn it over to "Jews for Jesus", change
the National Anthem to "Onward Christian Soldiers" and let the Christians
sit on that patch of sand and fight 100,000,000 Arabs until it all settles
down. Then move back in.
FWP.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I  can't satisfactorily answer your stance that Cohen The Jew For Jesus
 oughta be admitted to Israel (and for Israeli citizenship?).  Heckfire,
 agnostic  atheist "Jews" are allowed to become Israeli citizens by way of
 the law of return, and this has much to do with modern Israel as refuge for
 Jews, which I presume is the rationale of why the United Nations accepted an
 Israel circa 1948.

 A "Jew for Jesus" obviously presents a dilemma for the
 interpretors and administrators of the "law of return."

 We know that
 Mormon missionizing is notoriously embarrassingly not allowed in Israel.

 We further know that (apparently)  no
 Middle Eastern country allows Christian missionizing, including  apparently
 the
 State Of Israel, which apparently discourages  rejects  (outlaws?) overt
 Christian missionizing.

 The below forwarding--seemingly a non-sequitur--might nevertheless be fun to
 contemplate when thinking about forced (via Inquisition style)  voluntary
 (via missionizing) conversion.

 I got a small kick out of the posting about Carlos Santana's rumored
 conversion to
 Judaism.

 The poster mentions the Inquisition of the 15th and 16th centuries with
 ramifications today.

 It is possible that latinos have more sephardic  (Mediterranean) "Hebrew
 genes" in 'em than in the DNA of the ashkenasic (eastern Euro Jews).

 I "look Jewish," and think of myself as having a genetic connection to
 the ancient tribes; but who knows? Does DNA know?

 Is there a predominant or  identifiable Hebrew tribe gene? It may be an
 "Egyptian gene" or an "Hittite gene," or whatever. I know not much;
 but am fascinated by what the DNA researching will eventually disclose.

 PREPARE THYSELF FOR STATUS QUO UPSETTING IMPLICATIONS

 I fear I will die before knowing about the DNA implications and about the
 "flyin' saucers."

 Anthropology is about "diffusion  absorption," and the DNA researching
 results are going to shake-up reality.

 I am not sure that our culture(s) can survive such challenge. It might be
 best and more practical  utilitarian to keep the research conclusions
 covered-up. The last thing the world needs is chaos.

 The Balkans are still fighting the territorial/religio-driven wars of
 hundreds of years ago, n'est-ce pas? The Irish Catholics-Protestants still
 can't seem to lay down their arms.

 The same ole shit is the same ole shit.

 We, not totally. Things are changing. For instance:

 Re: This Coming Sunday's Unprecedented (?) Apologia: HOORAY FOR THE POPE.

 And thus don't be so cynical, Robert Cohen. This Pope is the greatest. He is
 top of a rational world's most admired list.


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[CTRL] Pending Vaccine Legislation VIOLATES SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

2000-03-10 Thread Dave

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Vaccines are known to be dangerous and even deadly.
Separation of Chuch and State is a fundamental rule of U.S. law.
This proposal is unconstitutional, illegal, and immoral.
I am not a Christian, but I will see to it that my Christan brethren are
made aware of this lunatic incursion against religious freedom !

Vaccination is known to be damaging to health in the long term.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are paid out annually by the U.S. government to the
parents of children paralyzed or killed by vaccines.
http://www.hrsa.dhhs.gov/bhpr/vicp/

You legislators must back off of this practically insane power-play on the
behalf of the pharmaceutical industry, do a little research (HUNDREDS OF
LINKS on vaccine damage and vaccine danger:
http://www.trufax.org/links/link4.html ) and put your common sense and you
conscience and loyalty to your constituents and the Constitution of the
united States before the twisted goals of the pharmaceutical medical
industrial complex whose PROFITS increase greatly over a person's lifetime
due to vaccine damage !!

(or start looking for another job, next election.. like torturing animals to
produce vaccines, maybe?)

I hope that you get many responses from others who are righteously outraged
by this insanity!

sincerely

Dave Hartley
86 N. Lexington Ave
Asheville, NC (28801)
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 5:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pending Vaccine Legislation


 *
 PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE
 Kathi Williams wrote:
 Yesterday NVIC was informed that a bill removing the religious objection
 to vaccination passed the IOWA Senate and has been referred to the Human
 Resources Committee in the House. It looks like this is going to move
 very rapidly and we only have a few days to try and stop it. The bill
 can be found at http://www.legis.state.ia.us. The bill number was 2314.
 An ammendment was introduced to restore the religious exemption and it
 lost. The final bill number is 3205.  Please notify your members in IOWA
 to do everything we can to stop this. A list of the members of the Human
 Resources Committee is attached.
 
  More information will follow.
  Kathi Williams/NVIC
  IOWA GENERAL ASSEMBLY
  MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMITTEE
 
  State Representative Dan Boddicker
  House District 39
  Republican
  Home Address:1052 195th St., Tipton IA 52772
  Home Telephone: (319) 886-2389
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative David Lord
  House District 77
  Republican
  Home Address:1250 K Circle, Perry IA 50220
  Home Telephone: (515) 465-2960
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Ro Foege
  House District 50
  Democrat
  Home Address:P.O. Box 128, Mt. Vernon IA 52314
  Home Telephone: (319) 895-6043
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Donna Barry
  House District 82
  Republican
  Home Address:3596 111th St., Dunlap IA 51529
  Home Telephone: (712)643-5745
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Gary Blodgett
  House District 19
  Republican
  Home Address:1225 North Shore Dr., Clear Lake IA 50428
  Home Telephone: (515) 357-8915
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Carmine Boal
  House District 65
  Republican
  Home Address:3080 NW 87th Lane, Ankeny IA 50021
  Home Telephone: (515)964-3335
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Bob Brunkhorst
  House District 22
  Republican
  Home Address:419 3rd Ave. SW, Waverly IA 50677
  Home Telephone: (319) 352-0065
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Polly Bukta
  House District 38
  Democrat
  Home Address:604 S. 32nd St., Clinton IA 52732
  Home Telephone: (319) 242-6603
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Danny Carroll
  House District 58
  Republican
  Home Address:244 400th Ave., Grinnell IA 50112
  Home Telephone: (515) 236-7043
  Office Telephone: (515)787-2026
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Galen Davis
  House District 93
  Republican
  Home Address:14277 120th St., Ottumwa IA 52501
  Home Telephone: (515)684-4385
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Wayne Ford
  House District 71
  Democrat
  Home Address:3108 36th St., Des Moines IA 50310
  Home Telephone:
  Office Telephone: (515) 288-4742
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Jane Greimann
  House District 61
  Democrat
  Home Address:1518 13th St., Ames IA 50010
  Home Telephone: (515)232-5238
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative Betty Grundberg
  House District 73
  Republican
  Home Address:224 Foster Dr., Des Moines IA 50312
  Home Telephone: (515) 277-8760
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  State Representative James Hahn
  House District 48
  Republican
  Home Address:805 W. 4th St., Muscatine IA 52761
  Home Telephone: (319) 263-1208
 

[CTRL] Space Cadet Training

2000-03-10 Thread Alamaine

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Here's where we need Nancy and "Just Say NO!!!" ... AER 


www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain
British government to expand use of drugs to control children's behaviour
By Tania Kent
10 March 2000

Back to screen version

The Blair government's review of the Mental Health Act proposes to give
increased powers to psychiatrists to prescribe drugs to control children's
behaviour. The plans could lead to up to three-quarters of a million children
being prescribed psychoactive medication. Mental health workers have warned
that the new legislation is so widely drawn that doctors will be given the
right to prescribe drugs to children just because they are having difficulty
with their maths or spelling.

Psychiatrists would also gain greater powers to order compulsory treatment in
the community (CCTOs) to both adults and children deemed to have severe mental
problems. Under the present legislation people can only be given treatment
against their will if they “show seriously irresponsible or abnormally
aggressive behaviour.”

The Green Paper on reform of the Mental Health Act proposes that doctors will
generally be able to prescribe drugs to people if they have “any disability or
disorder of the mind or brain, whether permanent or temporary, which results in
impairment or disturbances of mental functioning”. No distinction is made
between children and adults, either those voluntarily seeking treatment or
under the provisions regarding CCTOs. Responding to the proposals, a
spokeswoman for the charity Young Minds, explained: “Around 10 percent of
children have a diagnosable mental disorder [The proposed legislation] is
drawn so widely that it could cover a lot of children who have learning
disabilities. The implications for kids is considerable.”

Widespread concern over the legislation follows alarming evidence of an
increased reliance on drugs when dealing with children. Tens of thousands of
school-age children, often with only common behavioural problems, are being
prescribed Ritalin simply in order to control them.

Ritalin is a stimulant whose affects are similar to those of amphetamine,
methamphetamine and cocaine. It is used to treat Attention Deficit and
Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD)—a disorder of unknown causes that occurs in
children of both sexes, but is diagnosed four times more frequently in boys. It
is clinically defined as “developmentally inappropriate inattention and
impassivity, with or without hyperactivity”. Symptoms include distraction,
impatience and difficulty concentrating.

US sets the trend

In England alone the number of prescriptions for Ritalin shot up from 3,500 in
1993 to 126,500 in 1998—a staggering 3,600 percent increase. The UK is rapidly
following the path of the US, where a report last month showed that 3 million
children—one in every 30—are now being given Ritalin. Children as young as two
are regularly being given mood-altering drugs, including anti-depressants.
A UN report published annually by the International Narcotics Control Board
(INCB) revealed that the number of supposedly hyperactive children being
prescribed drugs has increased alarmingly. The report said that the use of
Ritalin for children with Attention Deficit disorder had gone up in more than
50 countries, and criticises the overuse of the drug in the US. Treatment rates
for hyperactivity in some American schools are as high as 30 to 40 percent of a
class, and children as young as one have been given the drug.

Professor Hamid Ghodse, president of the INCB, said in the report that despite
efforts on international drug control many substances were being over-
prescribed—particularly to young people with behavioural and social problems.
He said they were being prescribed drugs in order to conform with a generally
desired body image, because of emotional stress, and to improve school
performance, but could then find it difficult to refrain from abusing drugs at
a later date.

Ritalin is being prescribed in huge quantities despite the fact that very
little research has been conducted on its long-term effects on health. Ritalin
is not a cure for ADHD, but a stimulant which can help concentration whilst the
child is on the drug. Ritalin's side effects include increased blood pressure,
heart rate, body temperature and alertness, and it also suppresses appetite.
The implications of prescribing such mood-altering drugs on the still-
developing brain of a child are not known. Evidence produced by the National
Toxicology Program in the US draws attention to Ritalin's potential
carcinogenic properties. Feeding mice Ritalin induced liver tumours, including
very rare and highly malignant cancers.

Ritalin and other stimulants or anti-depressants are increasingly the only
option being made available to millions who have been diagnosed with a mental
disorder. ADHD diagnosis, which is difficult and complex at the best of times,
is often made in 

Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Pending Vaccine Legislation VIOLATES SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

2000-03-10 Thread Ric Carter

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Spoken like a true epidemic-lover.  Wow, we certainly don't want all
residents vaccinated against smallpox etc, do we?  I mean, how can our
culture survive without regular epidemics to cull the weak and unfit?

- Original Message -
From: "Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [InTheShadows] Pending Vaccine Legislation VIOLATES SEPARATION OF
CHURCH AND STATE


 Vaccines are known to be dangerous and even deadly.
 Separation of Chuch and State is a fundamental rule of U.S. law.
 This proposal is unconstitutional, illegal, and immoral.
 I am not a Christian, but I will see to it that my Christan brethren are
 made aware of this lunatic incursion against religious freedom !

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 5:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pending Vaccine Legislation


  *
  PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE
  Kathi Williams wrote:
  Yesterday NVIC was informed that a bill removing the religious objection
  to vaccination passed the IOWA Senate and has been referred to the Human
  Resources Committee in the House. It looks like this is going to move
  very rapidly and we only have a few days to try and stop it. The bill

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[CTRL] Managed Health Care, Down Under

2000-03-10 Thread Alamaine

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This is a tough one ... not for the faint of heart.  AER 

"" The government's changes have made the industry a more lucrative target for
corporate takeovers. Under the headline, “Golden Oldies,” the Sydney Morning
Herald reported on March 2 that “Nursing homes are big business, with handsome
profits, for some”. American-based corporations are “moving into Australia to
capitalise on a growth industry protected by an assured flow of government
funds”. ""

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WSWS : News  Analysis : Australia  South Pacific
Kerosene baths reveal systemic aged care crisis in Australia
By Regina Lohr and Mike Head
10 March 2000

Back to screen version

Every day this week has brought new and harrowing reports of elderly residents
in Australian nursing homes being seriously maltreated.

The revelations began when news leaked out that a nursing home in an outer
Melbourne working class suburb had subjected its 57 patients to kerosene baths.
Several suffered second-degree burns and blisters. One woman, aged 84, died two
days later. The bathing had been ordered to control an outbreak of scabies, a
skin disease.

The news provoked widespread outrage from the families of people in care.
Reports of similar horrors across the country followed as health workers,
relatives and pensioner groups seized on the rare media attention to speak out.
On January 17 the federal Department of Health and Aged Care had received
complaints from nursing staff at the care-for-profit Riverside Nursing Home
about the kerosene baths and other ill-treatment of residents. It was not until
the complaints received media coverage three weeks later, however, that the
department referred the matter to the Aged Care Standards and Accreditation
Agency, and inspectors were dispatched to investigate. Aged Care Minister
Bronwyn Bishop claimed not to know of the facts until mid-February.

It soon emerged that last year nursing staff at Riverside had lodged complaints
about shortages of bed linen and medical supplies, and weevil-infested food,
among other things. Despite Riverside failing on 26 out of 29 case standards,
the government excused the breaches, closing its file four months later. That
decision was consistent with the government's record of never having withdrawn
a nursing home licence.

On February 22, facing mounting public outcry and media attention, Bishop and
the government initially sought to bury the issue by quietly withdrawing
federal subsidies from the home without any public announcement.
As more details continued to emerge, the government suddenly ordered the
closure of Riverside last Monday. It did not consult the 57 residents or their
families, nor did it give them notice of the decision. Most of the patients
were left with no choice but to transfer to a hospital 40 kilometres away in
the centre of Melbourne.

Anguished patients, relatives and staff bitterly accused the government of
further endangering the lives and welfare of the residents. Many of the
residents' loved ones, often elderly themselves, will have no means of
travelling to the hospital to make visits.

In a bid to justify its sudden reversal, the government released the Aged Care
Accreditation Agency's report on Riverside. That report, however, showed a
protracted pattern of mistreatment to which the government had clearly turned a
blind eye for years.

Bandages for wounds were so scarce that “dressings that are leaking fluids or
falling off are patched up”. There was “ongoing risk that residents' open
wounds can become flyblown and infested with maggots”. Soiled dressings were
left in bathrooms; soiled bandages and towels were washed with the residents'
laundry; urine-stained foam mattress overlays were stored with clean linen; and
fly-screens were missing. Cornflour was applied to residents' skin to treat
itchiness.

Of the 46 residents reviewed, “six have confirmed dehydration, nine others have
possible dehydration, 15 have recorded increasing episodes of aggression,
confusion, depression, fainting or loss of consciousness, 13 have recorded
infections such as conjunctivitis, cellulitis, diarrhoea, urinary tract
infections and infected wounds (and) two residents have chest infections.”
In the single worst case, a woman's broken arm had been undetected for a week,
misdiagnosed as simply a reaction to an influenza injection.

Only the determination of the nurses forced the conditions at Riverside into
the open. One nurse told the media that nursing staff had “fought against” the
kerosene baths, which had been ordered by the supervising nurse. Nurses were
now afraid that they would be viewed as “monsters”.

Adelaide Ericksen, a registered nurse who formerly worked at Riverside, told
the Australian that nurses worked there in a climate of fear. There was also a
sense of panic among patients that they might not receive their medication. She
had left after a senior nurse forbade her to administer oxygen to a 

[CTRL] FWD letter

2000-03-10 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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From: "J." (address-removed)@mindspring.com  Thu Mar 9
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello

My name is James. I'm a working class American living in the midwestern =
US. I have been following the conflicts in your country for a while now =
and I just wanted to let you know how I feel. I know that the Serbs =
probably hate the American people and I understand those feelings =
because if Serbians had done to the US what NATO has done to the Serbs I =
would probably hate the Serbs too. But let me tell you this. Most hard =
working Americans know what is really going on in your country. We =
aren't fooled by the major media. We have seen too many times how the =
media twists the truth to justify the actions of the US government. In =
fact it makes me so angry that sometimes I feel like dropping everything =
and flying to Serbia to fight for the Serbs. But I have a family here =
that I must feed and cannot do that. I am not some kind of radical. I am =
a working class American and most of my friends and neighbors feel =
the same way I do. We love our country and our flag. But we hate the =
people who are in control of our government and who have mutilated our =
original constitution. If the founding fathers of the United States =
could be alive to witness what our current government has done to our =
country they would surely weep. I have no idea what the government's =
agenda is in this matter and they never tell us the truth so I may never =
know. All I do know for certain is that the American public is being =
lied to, and the Serb people are being made to suffer.

In short, please donnot hold the actions of the US government against =
the US people. Most of us see through the lies and our thoughts and =
prayers are with the Serbs. If there is anything I can do that would =
help the Serbian cause I would be more than happy to do so. Send me a =
reply if possible.

Sincerely,

James



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[CTRL] Hi Ho, Hi Ho ...

2000-03-10 Thread Alamaine

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From
http://www.observer.com/cgi-win/homepage.exe?nyo1/b1022800

{{Begin}}
Off to Work We Go—and Go—Never Sure Why We Bother
by James Buchan
The Working Life: The Promise and Betrayal of Modern Work, by Joanne B. Ciulla.
Times Books, 266 pages, $25.

For something that most of us do, or want to do, work is not easy to write
sense about. Work is our chief connection to the world around us. Work tells us
what to do each day, converts our thoughts into objects or acts and our energy
into sustenance, gives us our social personality, company, respectability,
distinction. Work is also a tyranny to which we submit out of witless
conformity and which obscures reality as completely as it obscures its own
purposes.

The question posed by Joanne Ciulla’s intriguing new book is this: In affluent
societies, where most people work not for their needs but for their wants, why
do we work so hard and so unhappily? Entering the third millennium, humanity
should be loosening up, spending more time on the historical golf course. As
Ms. Ciulla writes, with liberal wistfulness: "I am perplexed at the domination
of life by paid employment at a time when life itself should be getting
easier."

Her book, which deals with paid work to the exclusion of house- and schoolwork,
falls into three parts. The first is a canter through social attitudes to work
from the time of the creation. For Adam and Eve, work was a curse, symbol of
their expulsion from paradise. Aristotle thought work an obstacle to both a
contemplative leisure and an active citizenship. As always, he distinguished
between need and want. A human being can only consume so much food and so many
pairs of shoes–necessities–but can never satisfy his wishes. Work, as he saw
it, becomes a treadmill of self-reproducing desires.

In the Middle Ages, work was constrained within a timeless and hierarchical
society, and subordinate to the health of the soul. It was with the Protestant
reformers of the 16th century, notably Calvin, that work was detached from good
works and became a sacrament in itself, a token of grace and symbol of
salvation. It is this so-called work ethic, partly but not wholly stripped of
its religious content, that gives texture to life in the United States and,
because of the prestige of the U.S. economy, more and more societies abroad.
Americans, even if they work on product placement in children’s television,
tend to be convinced of the righteousness of their job–they’re curing cancer.
Hard work is a symbol not of the soul’s salvation but of election to the only
paradise on offer in this fallen world, the American Dream.

In her second section, which is devoted to the American corporation, Ms. Ciulla
makes a point that often strikes visitors to the United States like an
epiphany: There is something inexcusably un-American about the U.S.
corporation! Time stamping, beer busts, random drug-testing, pink slips,
walking the talk–what could be more unfree?

The downsizing movement of the 1990’s left a great impression on Ms. Ciulla.
For her, the various corporate philosophies–Taylorism, scientific management,
the organization man, the pursuit of excellence, continuous improvement,
empowerment–are irredeemably sentimental and phony, for they ignore the
imbalance of power between employer and employee. To give an example from my
own country, for about 70 years the chain store Marks  Spencer was worshiped
in Britain as the perfect union of profit and social virtue. Last year, its
markets fell to bits, and it started beating up on its suppliers like the best
of them. I suspect that U.S. and British corporations and the societies that
depend on them are too unstable for any but the most temporary judgments.
The third, and most philosophical section of the book, deals with the rewards
of work. To my taste, Ms. Ciulla is excessively cautious. She does not like to
think about the old division of labor between the sexes. Yet when a man could
return at sundown to be greeted by his lovely wife at the picket fence, and
supper on the table, even working for Albert J. Dunlap (known as "Chainsaw Al"
or "the Shredder" for his unsentimental approach to the payroll at Scott Paper
Company) must have been tolerable. Now that Mr. 9-to-5 must come back to an
overgrown garden and an empty house, bare cupboard and wife slaving away at the
telemarketing center, he must think again about what they both gain from work.
The old leftist idea that women, in emancipating themselves, would also
emancipate men, is beginning to look sentimental, to put it mildly.

Ms. Ciulla does not go deeply enough into the rewards of work. She observes
that Americans are "willing to trade freedom in the workplace for freedom in
the marketplace." She recognizes that liberty in America once meant something
more than retail credit–did Patrick Henry shop?–and that shopping merely forces
us back to work, while television helps us stomach it. Anyway, 

[CTRL] afp- Macedonian police station near Kosovo hit by rocket

2000-03-10 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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  SKOPJE, March 8 (AFP) - Unidentified attackers fired a rocket at
a police station in a predominantly ethnic Albanian town in
Macedonia, but no one was hurt, the interior ministry said
Wednesdsay.
   The attack occured late Tuesday in Tetovo, near Macedonia's
border with Kosovo, it said.
   The ministry said an M-70 rocket was fired from a distance of
about 60 meters (200 feet) at the police station and struck an
electricity pylon near the building.
   The rocket launcher was found several hundred meters from the
station but the attackers fled, it said.
   National radio reported earlier that the explosion damaged the
police station and destroyed the electricity pylon, causing a power
failure in the center of Tetovo, located 45 kilometers (30 miles)
east of Skopje.
   It was the second attack this year against a police station in
Macedonia.
   On January 20, an explosive device was thrown at a police
station in Kicevo, a village near Skopje that also has a mainly
ethnic-Albanian population.
   On January 12, three Macedonian policemen were shot and killed
as they patrolled near another Albanian-dominated town, Aracinovo,
10 kilometers (six miles) north of Skopje.
   The area is known as a hub for arms and drug trafficking.
   In 1997 and 1998, several police stations, courts and railway
lines were targets of bomb attacks in six Macedonian towns. The
attacks were claimed by the ethnic Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army.
   During that period, nine ethnic Albanians were convicted and
jailed for "terrorism." Four of the nine were recently released.

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Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread nessie

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What has been done? What is the evidence for biological lineage between

Israel today and Ancient Israel?

DNA testing on Cohanim has established three clear markers.

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Re: [CTRL] Space Cadet Training

2000-03-10 Thread WK

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I'm gradually coming to the conclusion that the leadership and bureaucracies of
the UKUSA-axis countries are rapidly, inexorably going insane.

Alamaine wrote:

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 Here's where we need Nancy and "Just Say NO!!!" ... AER 

 www.wsws.org

 WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Britain
 British government to expand use of drugs to control children's behaviour
 By Tania Kent
 10 March 2000

 Back to screen version

 The Blair government's review of the Mental Health Act proposes to give
 increased powers to psychiatrists to prescribe drugs to control children's
 behaviour. The plans could lead to up to three-quarters of a million children
 being prescribed psychoactive medication. Mental health workers have warned
 that the new legislation is so widely drawn that doctors will be given the
 right to prescribe drugs to children just because they are having difficulty
 with their maths or spelling.

 Psychiatrists would also gain greater powers to order compulsory treatment in
 the community (CCTOs) to both adults and children deemed to have severe mental
 problems. Under the present legislation people can only be given treatment
 against their will if they “show seriously irresponsible or abnormally
 aggressive behaviour.”

 The Green Paper on reform of the Mental Health Act proposes that doctors will
 generally be able to prescribe drugs to people if they have “any disability or
 disorder of the mind or brain, whether permanent or temporary, which results in
 impairment or disturbances of mental functioning”. No distinction is made
 between children and adults, either those voluntarily seeking treatment or
 under the provisions regarding CCTOs. Responding to the proposals, a
 spokeswoman for the charity Young Minds, explained: “Around 10 percent of
 children have a diagnosable mental disorder [The proposed legislation] is
 drawn so widely that it could cover a lot of children who have learning
 disabilities. The implications for kids is considerable.”

 Widespread concern over the legislation follows alarming evidence of an
 increased reliance on drugs when dealing with children. Tens of thousands of
 school-age children, often with only common behavioural problems, are being
 prescribed Ritalin simply in order to control them.

 Ritalin is a stimulant whose affects are similar to those of amphetamine,
 methamphetamine and cocaine. It is used to treat Attention Deficit and
 Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD)—a disorder of unknown causes that occurs in
 children of both sexes, but is diagnosed four times more frequently in boys. It
 is clinically defined as “developmentally inappropriate inattention and
 impassivity, with or without hyperactivity”. Symptoms include distraction,
 impatience and difficulty concentrating.

 US sets the trend

 In England alone the number of prescriptions for Ritalin shot up from 3,500 in
 1993 to 126,500 in 1998—a staggering 3,600 percent increase. The UK is rapidly
 following the path of the US, where a report last month showed that 3 million
 children—one in every 30—are now being given Ritalin. Children as young as two
 are regularly being given mood-altering drugs, including anti-depressants.
 A UN report published annually by the International Narcotics Control Board
 (INCB) revealed that the number of supposedly hyperactive children being
 prescribed drugs has increased alarmingly. The report said that the use of
 Ritalin for children with Attention Deficit disorder had gone up in more than
 50 countries, and criticises the overuse of the drug in the US. Treatment rates
 for hyperactivity in some American schools are as high as 30 to 40 percent of a
 class, and children as young as one have been given the drug.

 Professor Hamid Ghodse, president of the INCB, said in the report that despite
 efforts on international drug control many substances were being over-
 prescribed—particularly to young people with behavioural and social problems.
 He said they were being prescribed drugs in order to conform with a generally
 desired body image, because of emotional stress, and to improve school
 performance, but could then find it difficult to refrain from abusing drugs at
 a later date.

 Ritalin is being prescribed in huge quantities despite the fact that very
 little research has been conducted on its long-term effects on health. Ritalin
 is not a cure for ADHD, but a stimulant which can help concentration whilst the
 child is on the drug. Ritalin's side effects include increased blood pressure,
 heart rate, body temperature and alertness, and it also suppresses appetite.
 The implications of prescribing such mood-altering drugs on the still-
 developing brain of a child are not known. Evidence produced by the National
 Toxicology Program in the US draws attention to Ritalin's potential
 carcinogenic properties. Feeding mice Ritalin induced liver tumours, 

[CTRL] Candidate To Give Guns for Donations (fwd)

2000-03-10 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Candidate To Give Guns for Donations

The Associated Press Friday, March 10, 2000; 7:41 a.m.  EST
SALLISAW, Okla.  –– A congressional candidate planning to give
away guns as part of his campaign calls it a perfect way to raise
money and let people show their support for the right to bear
arms.

Mark Detro, seeking the Republican nomination for the 2nd
Congressional District, said Thursday that people who donate $5
to his campaign will qualify to win a variety of guns.

"We're seeing in Oklahoma an erosion of our firearms rights,"
Detro said. "This is a great way for people to get involved with
a political issue."

Detro said his plan had received the approval of the Federal
Election Commission and Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson.

That came as news to Edmondson's spokesman Gerald Adams.

"Someone will be calling (Detro) to say he can't do this," Adams
said Thursday.  He said it would be illegal for the campaign to
hold a raffle or lottery where money must be given to qualify for
a prize.

Detro said gun winners would receive a safety course from the
National Rifle Association and would have to undergo background
checks before receiving the firearm.

He said two types of Ruger guns were donated by Guns Are Us, a
Massachusetts gun broker, and he's contacted several
manufacturers seeking donations of firearms.

Detro's campaign announcement comes weeks before a scheduled
appearance in Sequoyah County stemming from his arrest in January
for alleged assault and battery with a deadly weapon.

Detro, owner of the Sallisaw Inn, was arrested after police found
a man bleeding from the head wandering outside the motel.  The
man told authorities that Detro had beaten him with a metal pipe.

Detro contends he was defending his property after the man broke
into one of his motel rooms.


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2

2000-03-10 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000310b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No psychics were telephoned to produce this bulletin; dice were thrown.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Spinning: http://www.3quarks.com/GIF-Animations/Figurines/Alternative.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Raël love - A gorgeous group of alien spawn hones a hedonistic hankering
  for sex. Gimmee: http://www.salon.com/travel/feature/2000/03/08/raelians/
# Norway searches for new gov't - ministers, lawmakers abducted by ETs:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564879310-811

@ God help Bob deliver us from evil - should Earth be destroyed, or what?
  Like, real soon now? http://www.bergen.com/yourtime/bob0923092.htm
# Life Support: Unlucky numbers - Psychics foretell a fat phone bill
  suckers: http://www.post-gazette.com/magazine/2308life8.asp

: Would you rather be fucked by aliens, Raëlians, govt agents, telepsychics,
televised demons/deities, robots, me? Will they/we respect you in the morn-
ing? Will you pray for weather/luck/orgasms/wealth/identity/chocolate/wine?

# AID GROUPS, FLOOD VICTIMS PRAY FOR END TO RAIN IN MOZAMBIQUE - dissident
  Navajos hired to consult on techniques for anti-Rain dances - human sac-
  rifices offered - http://CNN.com/2000/WORLD/africa/03/10/africa.floods/
@ Possessed  Dispossessed: Spirits, Identity,  Power in a Madagascar Town:
  http://www-ucpress.berkeley.edu:3030/dynaweb/public/books/africa/sharp
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PROZAC'S REIGN AS TOP ANTIDEPRESSANT ENDING - newer, better drugs are
  online: http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=28900
@ Nerves  Narratives: Cultural History of Hysteria in 19th-Century Britain:
  http://www-ucpress.berkeley.edu:3030/dynaweb/public/books/literature/logan
# Drug may remove women's facial hair - circus bearded ladies endangered,
  see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564880964-d79

@ Contrary to the opinions of some http://www.tommychong.com/ free-lance
  pharmaceutical researchers, herbal preparations (either taken before a
  test http://www.testpure.com/index2.html or used to adulterate your
  http://store.yahoo.com/chongo/urineluck1.html sample), won't help you
  http://www.norml.org/canorml/testing/testing.tips.shtml pass a drug
  http://drugtesting.freeservers.com/search.htm test. Alas, the only
  things that help are time http://www.drugtestinfo.com/faqs.html#25 and
  http://water.usgs.gov/ water. Via http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Drugs/

: What's y'r favorite drug? Would'ya rather manipulate your mental/physical/
spiritual/financial status with drugs, electronics, auto-suggestion, metals,
microbes, microwaves, perversion, literacy? How do you re-program yourself?

# Microbe may cause toxic runoff. WASHINGTON (AP) A super bug that eats iron
  and can thrive in the equivalent of battery acid may be a major culprit in
  causing toxic metal  acid runoff from a California mine, researchers say.
  Burning: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564862049-2dd
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 1.5 mln Muslims crowd into Grand Mosque. MECCA, Saudi Arabia (AP) Despite
  calls for patience and courteousness, pilgrims pushed and shoved their way
  around the Grand Mosque, where more than 1.5 million Muslims gathered to
  pray. On this last Muslim Sabbath before the peak of the hajj, the annual
  pilgrimage to holy sites in Saudi Arabia, the prayer leader urged pilgrims
  to be "kind, gentle, patient and tolerant to other pilgrims while they are
  performing the rituals." But to no avail - frantic pilgrims pushed their
  way out of the mosque, sending many elderly men and women to the ground.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564881328-93e

@ The Vanguard of the Islamic Revolution: The Jama'at-i Islami of Pakistan:
  http://www-ucpress.berkeley.edu:3030/dynaweb/public/books/south_asia/nasr
# Israel preps for Pope's visit - ready for crushed tourists, any crisis.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564848970-2ea

: Do you like to crowd into religious sites? Are crowds of pilgrims a great
excuse for boorish actions? Have you shoved/kicked/stomped/shot any pilgrims
lately? Did the voices in your head instruct you? Did you feel satisfaction?

# Witches reject Hollywood stereotypes  (U-WIRE) TUCSON, Ariz. -- Hollywood
  has provided a stereotyped image of witches as old women with warts accom-
  panied by a black cat - but University of Arizona witches say the image is
  completely wrong. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/000307/university-162
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The End of Anonymity? Top Clinton administration officials say that since
  law enforcement can't catch untraceable hackers, it may be 

[CTRL] Fwd: Webcast tomorrow (Sat., March 11)

2000-03-10 Thread William Shannon







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Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 3/10/00 7:37:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 DNA testing on Cohanim has established three clear markers. 

Do tell Nessie!

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[CTRL] SciFi Novel Based on Velikovskian Theories

2000-03-10 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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FWIW, I just read a very interesting and highly entertaining novel by James
P. Hogan, *Cradle of Saturn*, based closely on the theories of Velikovsky.
(Anyone on this list who has been reading the issues of Kronos forwarded by
Das GOAT could almost have written the book...) The central thesis of the
book is that a protostar  or megacomet called "Athena" is ejected by Jupiter
(remember your mythology), crosses the Solar System, and then swipes the
Earth, causing pole shifts, crustal disruptions, and the general collapse of
civilization. Fortunately, a band of farsighted scientists have established
a colony called (what else?) "Kronos" orbiting Saturn... Read the book. It's
a good one, and beats the pants off of any of Hollywood's
disaster-from-space flicks.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] HELP ANTONY SUTTON

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anthony Sutton, the most prolific of the writers who have
revealed our unseen rulers and how it is done, who had
written about 15 books like WALL STREET AND THE BOLSCHEVIC
REVOLUTION, and WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER, was the
first scholar/researcher to tell us about the TRILATERAL
COMMISSION and then with his order series THE ORDER and HOW
THE ORDER CREATES WAR AND REVOLUTION
http://www.dcia.com/harriman.html which is the one I
recommend to people who have not read Sutton before.

He makes the point that privacy is better maintained if this
announcement of his is circulated then if readers send him
their -mail lists like I intend to do.  So it only takes a
few seconds and then milliseconds later your wishes are on
the information super highway.

Personally I agree with Anthony Sutton that human freedom
will be won or lost on the issues of the next generation
energy systems.  Those on this list should also know that my
friend Johnny Johnson was one of Anthony's best friends and
publisher of HOW THE ORDER CREATES WAR AND REVOLUTION and
was the person who introduced me to many great writers.
After working for John Singlaub for 20 years Johnny knew
just who to call to verify that covert ops pilots were
flying cocaine.  He made 24 phone calls and not one
mercinary working for Singlaub denied it. Senator Barry
Goldwater used to defer to Johnny Johnson on conserative
theory.  The man was great.  And he was courageous.

And Anthony --- as the best of the best writers in this area
let me ask this question that may encourage aspiring young
writers.  How many of these splendid and unsurpassed works
did you publish before you realized a profit?

Brian Quig


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Brian


Thank you Brian for your appeal on my behalf.

May I  explain a little more what I want to do?

Personal addresses are at the root of privacythere may be a quicker more
effective way to achieve my goal and maintain absolute privacy for readers.

I have been quietly  working on future technology for the past ten years.  I
am convinced the road to freedom, to collapse the evil around us, lies in
technologies few know about, but quietly in active private commercial
development.. ((The Internet and Janet Reno's fear of the Internet is one
facet of a much wider landscape),  There is much more coming down the  road.

For a decade I have edited FTIR (FUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORT and
written several almost unknown books.  FTIR has  sparked others to ideas and
projects..   I want to expand this awareness while  I have time. ( I am 75)

The April FTIR is on POLITICS AND NEW ENERGY.The Washington /New york
cabal is well aware of the power of New Tech...and for them the danger.

I would like to send to any interested reader a sample copy of the April FTIR
and  summary of the various materials I have on New Tech.  Nowhere near as
widely known a s my political/economic books.   But vital in coming years.

We can win with technology.  Simple powerful devices and procedures.
Suppressed by the establishement in great part  This can collapse the
establishment

If you  approve my arguments and data.then it would be major help if you
would REPRODUCE this material and mail out to your own lists and friends.
This way we protect your privacy and acheive my objective.  Get the word out
in your own way.

We are in the midst of a virtually unknown technological revolution..  The
establishment is working to stall it.  We can bust thru their 

[CTRL] SECRET PANEL DECIDES WHO CAN DRIVE

2000-03-10 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://williamcooper.net/hott/dmv.htm

SECRET PANEL DECIDES WHO CAN DRIVE

   by Dana Davis, The Asheville Tribune, Asheville, North Carolina

A woman recently visited a local DMV branch to notify them of a change of
address and requested an updated driver's license to indicate as such. What
she got was much more than she bargained for.

When Sylvia English, 39, single, and no children, went to the East Asheville
branch of the NC Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) to update her driver's
license she did not realize that she needed her social security card. Upon
finding out, English says she vocalized her disapproval to the DMV examiner.

The examiner explained to her that all applicants seeking a driver's license,
regardless of their record, are to provide their social security number as
mandated by President Clinton's Executive Order 13019, issued on Sept. 28,
1996, supposedly designed to keep track of 'dead-beat' parents.

English did not have her social security card with her, so she had to return the

next day with it. Upon English's second examination with the E. Asheville
DMV, she claims she was asked questions which were agitating to her. English
said DMV Examiner Creasman asked her in depth questions about her
physical health, mental health, and if she was registered to vote.

Examiner Creasman abruptly ceased communication when contacted by The
Asheville Tribune. However, Examiner Hyder from the West Asheville branch
said that the DMV is required to ask all applicants if they suffer from any
health problems. If the examiner is not too busy, Hyder said there is a list of
specific questions regarding someone's health, as it relates to their

ability to drive, that an examiner can choose to ask the applicant. Therefore,
according to Hyder, it is not odd that Creasman asked English these questions.

Regardless, English says she answered all of the questions and provided all
information and identification that was asked of her by Examiner Creasman.
Though, she admits that she did so with obvious disgust because she felt the
questioning to be invasive, and, after all, she only wanted to change her
address.

Creasman granted English the updated license, but not without a hitch. On
May 7, English received a letter from DMV officials in Raleigh instructing her
to complete and return a ten-page medical evaluation within 30 days or else
her license would be canceled due to a medical incapacity to drive safely.

Furthermore, completion of the report requires that she provide her signature.
But the only place on the entire form that allows for English's signature
succeeds the following paragraph:

"I hereby authorize Dr. __ to give any examination he deems
necessary for the purpose of determining my physical fitness to operate a
motor vehicle. I also authorize any other physicians who attended me, or any
hospital or clinic in which I have been examined or treated, to give the
Division of Motor Vehicles or its representative any information they may

request concerning my condition. I understand this authorization includes
permission for this information to be reviewed by a panel of unidentified
physicians for the purpose giving the Division a medical opinion on my case.

SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT__"

English says she considers herself an 'open' person and has no problem
allowing her doctor to conduct a physical exam to determine if she can drive a
car safely. What English adamantly objects to is giving the DMV access to her
entire medical history, to be freely scrutinized by a 'panel of unidentified
physicians.'

When Examiner Hyder was asked if he would sign such a report, authorizing
the DMV to view his complete medical history, he responded, "I would have
no problem signing the medical report if I didn't have anything to hide."

English says she doesn't have anything to hide. According to English, she has
no insurance points, has not been in an accident, and in 33 years of driving,
has received only one ticket - a DUI in 1993. She received the required physical

from her doctor, but she feels the DMV's evaluation is unreasonably invasive
and unjust, and she does not understand why she must grant them permission
to secretly peer into her entire life. Incidentally, the page requiring the
signature also has an unidentified bar-code at the bottom.

Hyder explained that DMV appointed physicians who study an applicant's
medical report are to remain unidentified to protect themselves from any
possible danger in case they determine an applicant is unfit to have a driver's
license. He guessed that the bar-code is probably a way to keep track of a
person's file.

Legal expert Tim Hanley said he would not sign the form and added that he
would look into suing the DMV examiner who recommended the medical
report for deprivation of rights, Title 42, Section 1983 (Rights to Privacy).
Hanley suggests that Creasman may be violating 

[CTRL] Fwd: Hoopa/Humboldt Murder/Drugs/Injustice System Corruption Expose

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan





3.10.00
Humboldt Corruption Expose


Rumblings of big trouble, from what USED to be the land of big trees:
official corruption of the most severe and pernicious kind; working hand
in hand with the insatiable greed of multi-national corporations and
politicians; and the lust for power all around.

The not-so-covert presence of erstwhile federal intelligence goonsquads
in the land of the "mystery stumps" rounds out the picture of trouble in
the woods... I mean, what USED to be the woods. (Can't see the forest
for the stumps, you see...)

Global power politics comes home to the Redwood Empire.

Time for the former home of the brave towering evergreens--now clear-cut
into virtual extinction by the money lust of major "SL swindle"
operators like the Bush family, John McCain, Charles Keating, major
clear-cutter Pacific Lumber's top dog Michael "junkbond meister" Hurwitz
and the MANY other odious characters behind the raping and pillaging of
an irreplaceable natural AND NATIONAL resource--to SECEDE: not ONLY from
the Federalized, Tied-Up States Of America but from the mini-federalist
(and not THAT "mini" either!) state of California as well.



NewsHawk® Inc.

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Subject: Hoopa/Humboldt Murder/Drugs/Injustice System Corruption Expose
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:13:41 PST
From: "dex christian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://www.syzygyjob.com/Boards/letstalk/indexmesg/15760.shtml
Please feel free to copy and post this anywhere and everywhere
appropriate. 


This helps protect us whistleblowers and to put a beginning to the end
of 
the absurd injustice that "protects" Humboldt County from the rest of
the 
world. Fiefdom of Maxaam/Hurwitz, of Feinstein Keating Cranston Glenn 
Silverado Bush Connections.

There is hardcore confirmable information in this story. Thanks.

DexA-Arcata/Eureka California.

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  
Hoopa/Humboldt Drug, Murder Expose

Posted by DexA-Arcata/Eureka California

Posting:

Chapter 24, on page 378, of New World Disorder, How the Power Elite
Manipulates History, by Roy J. Giampaoli, 1998. The author allows
sections of the book to be copied for information dissemination
purposes. The authoralso encourages anyone to transfer this information
to theinternet, so the maximum number of individuals can be exposed to
these vital facts. Jackson Printing/Publishing, 732 cherry St., Chico,
CA, 95928-5143, (530) 342-7461.

p378, Chapter 24: Personal Travails  the "Hoopa/Humboldt Drug, Murder Expose":

A major role in the unjust treatment that this independent-investigative
journalist has endured is due to the unethical actions of Humboldt State
Univ. President Alistair W. McCrone. As discussed in chapter 18, it has
been reliably concluded that McCrone is a CIA asset! Another individual,
James Casey-Eddings, who at one time was a KHSU-FM (Humboldt State
radio) programmer, also concluded that the CIA has its stooges on that
campus. Casey-Eddings, was kicked off KHSU-FM by former-station manager
C. Parker Van Hecke. In January 1993, Casey-Eddings had an article
published in Eureka, CA's Edge City magazine that related the true
nature of Van Hecke's ties; in the piece about local radio and the
personalities, he cited that Van Hecke was a CIA asset. Besides myself
and Casey-Eddings, a number of other KHSU-FM-staff members were ousted
by the disreputable Van Hecke; due to his corrupt and unethical
loyalties! All the persons dismissed from their KHSU-FM posts were
voices of progressive thought; they did NOT comply with the wishes of
the powers that be, particularly alleged-CIA operatives Alistair W.
McCrone and C. Parker Van Hecke. McCrone brought in Van Hecke to
sanitize the station and to root out any unwanted personnel. I had been
on McCrone's hit list for a long time; this due to the public-affairs
documentaries and regular programs that were produced under Alternative
Review's authority. With former partner Tom W. Cairns, a number of radio
documentaries were aired that implicated the powers that be in unethical
or incriminating light. [This message board poster is wondering if this
Van Hecke was the 'guy' who I witnessed bullying another individual in
the Sacred Grounds coffee shop in Arcata. There have been several
shakeups and I may have read that he was rehired to manage in some
capacity. A friend of mine was told quite bluntly that people are not
happy at KHSU; there have been reported CD thefts etc., though the
Arcata Eye Newspaper is definitely a "Controlled Media" type rag. This
poster once witnessed Dr. McCrone handing over a portfolio to an
attorney-looking individual in front of "Jacoby's Storehouse" in Arcata.
Dr. McCrone did not appear pleased that I saw this simple superficially
innocent act. This poster, being somewhat intuitive and an aura reader,
felt that this was some sort of information link, and that the
"attorney" was unsavory. I must state that I do not know this as
fact.just another "coincidence" in my path! Interstingly, also,
Julie 

[CTRL] [NA] Youll be arrested!

2000-03-10 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NA] Youll be arrested!
Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 6:07 AM

www.networkamerica.org

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
March 2, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire

You’ll be arrested!

We have repeatedly stated for years that if a citizen tries to count –
or double-check – the ballots in his neighborhood precinct on election
day – that he will find that in 99% of the United States it is
effectively illegal to do so --- i.e., that he will be arrested or
escorted out by police.

Part I
Today we offer two dramatic, and I mean DRAMATIC, proofs of this
statement.

First, I offer again the slideshow site we threw up yesterday, sent to
us by Michael Hoffman. The only problem is, I FAILED to look at this
absolutely dynamic slideshow myself before I sent it out. I had heard
about this incident, but you have got to see it for yourself. Many
thanks to the CLEAN group for making this available on the world wide
web. You can bet your life we’d never have heard about these events from
the establishment newsmedia, either local or national:

If you haven’t done so already, please go here for the slide show, after
reading part two of this e-wire.
http://www.clean.org/slideshow_wf.html

(the slide show reveals a secret warehouse in Washington state for
re-marking of ballots in an official election – as well as the two
independent investigative reporters being ejected by police and election
workers.)

Part II:

Teresa Nagel is the County Clerk in charge of elections in Lassen County
California. My friend, Dick Murphy, a great American, is taking on the
corrupt establishment out there, and running for a seat on the Superior
Court from that district. Mr. Murphy feels he has a chance to win with a
fair count. S  . . .

I called Teresa Nagel at the Board of Elections to find out what was the
state of vote counting in Lassen County. I called on March 1, 2000 and
asked for someone who could answer questions about how we could monitor
the vote count. I did not ask for Teresa Nagel specifically, but she
came on the phone.

She fit the stereotype that I have previously detailed on this e-wire.
She seemed to be between 55 and 65, with the air of a stern school Marm,
who was politely tolerating me, but ready to go “no nonsense” on me at
any time. I swallowed my pride and played the part of a polite but
concerned citizen, who wanted to stand up for my candidate, but who
recognized the importance of her job. (I do, but not in the way she
thinks.)

The following conversation is a paraphrase from notes, but you can call
up almost any county in America and have a similar conversation. TN will
be Teresa Nagel, and JJC will be me (James Joseph Condit Jr.):

TN: Hello.
JJC: Hello. I’m calling on behalf of candidate Dick Murphy, and I wanted
to find out what we can do to monitor the vote count on Tuesday 7 when
the votes are counted. For instance, can we be at each precinct, or how
does it work?
TN: You’re not local?
JJC: No, I’m calling from Cincinnati, Ohio.
TN: Wweelll, (slight almost humorless chuckle) let me explain to you how
it works. We don’t count the votes at the precincts, we count them
downtown. All the votes are brought downtown after the people at the
precincts do a certain set of procedures. In two outlying areas the
Sheriffs pick up the votes and bring them down because it’s awfully far
for the … the people.
JJC: What kind of a ballot do they use in the precincts?
TN: A computer punch card.
JJC: Do they punch the holes in the card with a sharp stylus? – because
that’s how we do it in Cincinnati . . .
TN: No, the machine does that.
JJC: puts the holes in the card?
TN: Yes, they slip the ballot in and make their choices and the machine
does that.
JJC: And how do you count them downtown. By optical scanner?
TN: We have a device that reads the holes in the cards. The system is
called “Data Vote.”
JJC: Who makes the system?
TN: Sequoia Pacific. (NA note: this is one of the giants in supplying
vote counting equipment and software.)

JJC: So what right do candidates and citizens have to monitor the ballot
count? In other words, what right do we have to check or double check
that the computers have been programmed properly, you know, that there
were no programming errors.
TN: There is no right for the citizens to count ballots.
JJC: Well, that makes my job easy, because I guess there’s nothing to do
then as far as balloting counting.
TN: No, we take all the ballots downtown and run them through the
machine.
JJC: So there’s nothing for citizens or candidates to observe.
TN: Well, now wait a minute, you can come down and watch us feed 

[CTRL] Fwd: The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #128

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan






   The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #128 -- March 10, 2000
 A Publication of the Drug Reform Coordination Network

   PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE 

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 issue can be also be read on our web site at
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APOLOGIES TO THOSE OF YOU RECEIVING THIS TWICE, DUE TO A
SYSTEM ERROR BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

TABLE OF CONTENTS

1.  DRCNet and TV's "Judge Judy" in War of Words Over Needle
Exchange Remarks Following Launch of "DumpJudgeJudy.com" Web
Site
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#dumpjudgejudy

2.  Prop. 21 Passage Sparks Lively Protest
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#prop21passes

3.  Forfeiture Vote Postponed Again
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#votepostponed

4.  methadone article
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#methadoneaction

5.  Two Hawaii Medical Marijuana Bills Pass, Letters to
Legislators Still Needed
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#hawaiimedmj

6.  STUDIES:  Marijuana Eases Multiple Sclerosis, Might Help
Brain Cancer, Could Pose Heart Risk
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#marijuanastudies

7.  Feinstein-Campbell
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#feinsteincampbell

8.  Link of the Week
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#linkoftheweek

9.  Events
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#events

10. EDITORIAL:  California's Shame
http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#editorial



1. DRCNet and TV's "Judge Judy" in War of Words Over Needle
   Exchange Remarks Following Launch of "DumpJudgeJudy.com" Web
   Site
   http://www.drcnet.org/wol/128.html#dumpjudgejudy

Remarks made in Australia last November by the popular TV
personality "Judge Judy" Sheindlin against needle exchange and
injection drug users continue to "follow her around," according
to the New York Post, Thursday, March 9, top of the page above
the TV listings.

During a book talk in Brisbane, Australia last fall, Judge Judy
was quoted in The Courier Mail as saying, "give [addicts] dirty
needles and let 'em die," and "I don't understand why we think
it's important to keep them alive," calling needle exchange to
reduce the spread of AIDS and other infectious diseases an idea
advocated by "liberal morons."

Judge Judy was soon slammed from both sides of the globe.  Bob
Aldred, chief executive of the Alcohol and Drug Foundation of
Queensland called Judge Judy's comments "callous and deplorable,"
quoted in the Melbourne newspaper "The Age," saying "the
arrogance of a TV celebrity using the tragedy of young lives
struck down by drugs for her own commercial gain is nothing short
of repulsive."  In the United States, prominent conservative
commentator Arianna Huffington slammed Judge Judy in her
nationally syndicated column, with an editorial titled "The New
Callousness."

An Internet-based campaign aimed at the Judge Judy show's
sponsors began to percolate, as DRCNet, together with allied
organizations such as the Harm Reduction Coalition, Family Watch
and Drugsense, circulated lists of Judge Judy advertisers and
contact info.  Three Judge Judy sponsors, Herr's Potato Chips,
Papa John's Pizza, and a joint venture of Shell Oil and Chase
Manhattan Bank, responded by e-mail that they would cease running
ads on the Judge Judy show.  Feeling the pressure, Sheindlin
released two public statements on her web site,
http://www.judgejudy.com, on 11/30/99 and 12/3/99.

On 12/21/99, the campaign received coverage in the unlikely venue
of supermarket tabloids, with simultaneous articles appearing in
both The Globe and The National Enquirer.  On Feb. 18, a caller
to the CNN program "Larry King Live" show challenged Judge Judy
about the incident.  Later in the month, activists with the Harm
Reduction Coalition in New York planned to protest a Judge Judy
book talk at Barnes  Noble, but called the plans off after
learning she was reading from a children's book.  Earlier this
week, DRCNet launched a web site, DumpJudgeJudy.com,
(http://www.dumpjudgejudy.com), to enhance the anti-Judge Judy
campaign and raise awareness of drug-related HIV and hepatitis
and the urgent need for needle exchange programs.

Last Tuesday, 3/7, the popular web site APBnews.com covered
DumpJudgeJudy.com and the Judge Judy campaign (see
http://www.apbnews.com/media/celebnews/2000/03/07/judy0307_01.html).
DRCNet Executive Director David Borden was quoted in the article,
saying, "We have children being born with AIDS because of
infected needles, and nowhere in any of her statements has she
acknowledged that the disease spreads to other people," adding "I
feel she owes an apology to anyone that has lost a loved one to
drug abuse."

Papa John's spokesman Brian Jennings reiterated the company's
position, telling APB, "I regret ever 

[CTRL] Fwd: Parry/Contra-Coke on C-SPAN

2000-03-10 Thread Kris Millegan





americandispatches.com - http://www.americandispatches.com

Robert Parry will be discussing "Lost History:  Contras, Cocaine, the
Press, and 'Project Truth'" on Book TV this weekend.

The program has previously aired and will reair on Saturday, March 11 at
2:45pm/ET on C-SPAN2.


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[CTRL] White House Worker (Betty Lambuth) Alleges Threats (fwd)

2000-03-10 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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White House Worker (Betty Lambuth) Alleges Threats

 Friday, March 10, 2000; 6:47 p.m. EST
 Pete Yost

   WASHINGTON –– In court papers unsealed Friday, a former White
House contractor says she was threatened not to reveal a problem with
the White House e-mail system that concealed thousands of messages
from the Justice Department and congressional investigators.

The contractor, Betty Lambuth, says a subordinate told her some of
the e-mails deal with "Vice President Al Gore's involvement in
campaign fund-raising controversies" and "the sale of Clinton
Commerce Department trade mission seats in exchange for campaign
contributions." The subordinate said the e-mail also contained
information on the White House's improper gathering of FBI
background files of long-ago Republican appointees and the Monica
Lewinsky scandal, Lambuth stated in her declaration.

The document was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth.

Lambuth says she learned of a problem with the White House e-mail
system in May 1998 in the midst of Independent Counsel Kenneth
Starr's perjury and obstruction probe of the president in the Lewinsky
scandal.

Because of the problem, which began in August 1996 in the midst of
the Clinton-Gore re-election campaign, "a significant number of e-mails
were ... not being searched in response to subpoenas and document
requests," Lambuth said.

"I learned that one of the computer e-mail servers, which housed
incoming e-mail to much of the Clinton White House staff,
approximately 500 individuals, was not being ... managed" by the
automated records system. The system allows text to be searched in
response "to subpoenas and other inquiries," said Lambuth.

After Lambuth informed the White House, Office of Administration
counsel Mark Lindsay told her "that if I or any of my team who knew
about the e-mail problem told anyone else about it we would lose our
jobs, be arrested and put in jail," she said.

She said Lindsay specified that she was not to tell even her
private-sector boss, Steve Hawkins, who she said eventually removed
her from her White House assignment when she refused to tell him
about the e-mail problem.

Lambuth said she and her co-workers dubbed the e-mail problem
"Project X," and because of the threats, she and her staff took to
meeting in a park close to the New Executive Office Building and in a
nearby Starbucks when discussing the matter.

Lambuth, who left the White House in July 1998, said she still works
for CEXEC, a subcontractor for Northrop-Grumman that helps run and
maintain the White House computer system.

"Lindsay and others on the Clinton White House staff who knew why I
wasn't telling Hawkins about the e-mail problem never intervened with
Hawkins to protect my job," Lambuth said in the declaration.

Calls to the White House press office about Lambuth's allegations were
not immediately returned.

Lambuth's declaration was released in a lawsuit on the FBI files
controversy filed by a conservative group, Judicial Watch.

The e-mail problem was publicly revealed last month by a former
White House employee, Sheryl Hall, who alleged in a declaration that
"when the contractors told the White House about the problem, they
were threatened, warned not to discuss it. They were told the
documents were classified."

At a hearing Friday morning, the judge also unsealed a new declaration
by Hall in which she said the White House get rid of computer-taped
archives and the contents of computer hard drives of presidential aides
who leave.

A career staff member in the White House Office of Administration
"told me that ... the Clinton-Gore White House plans to destroy ...
archival cartridge tapes" and to "reformat the hard drives" of departing
White House staffers.

Hall said there are archives cartridges for at least 500 departing staffers.

Lamberth ordered Justice Department lawyer James Gilligan,
representing the White House in the case, to ensure that no hard drives
are reformatted and no cartridges destroyed.

In addition, "I want names of those responsible for preserving" the
material, said Lamberth. Gilligan promised to provide them.

The Justice Department lawyer rejected the suggestion that the White
House has "suppressed production of e-mails."

Gilligan said that the White House has always maintained that it is an
"undue burden" to do mass searches of e-mail, but it is willing to do so
with "reasonable search parameters."

Gilligan also said the e-mail problem has been publicly known for some
time. He pointed to an article in Insight magazine in December 1998
which outlined the problem.

Regarding suggestions of a 

Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

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 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Maybe we should ask Khazar University (It has a web site). The "Law of
 Return" is one of the Constitutional documents of Israel. If I remember
 correctly it emphasizes (Anti-Christ) Jewish religion and not biological
 race. I think it says if you have a Jewish mother you are considered to be
 a Jew (one criterion) but only if you haven't converted to another
 religion.

This is right. So far so good Poley.

 I suppose some world religions are exempt in practice but not
 Christianity.

Ah, this is the Poley I know and love. WRONG.

 Thus the Cohen written up in the local BC Christian News
 recently as a convert to Christianity is now excommunicated and does not
 have aliyeh rights. His biology hasn't changed.

But he is no longer a Jew is he ? The right of return is only for Jews
in the Jewish State. This isn't too difficult to comprehend is it?

 These Jews for Jesus are
 Pro-Christ Jews by their self-description but they are rejected by the
 Anti-Christ Jews.

Jews for Jesus ARE NOT JEWS. They are Christians by definition. They
believe that Jesus is god. This is ONLY a Christian belief.

 This is because the teachings of Christ are regarded
 as BLASPHEMY by the Israeli Establishment.

Ah, now we get into Poleyisms. Fasten your seat belts we are leaving
reality.

The Israeli Establishment is non religious and doesn't give a shit
about the teachings of Christ. They do however fund and execute many
archaeological projects and studies which focus on first century
Jewish history in Judea and especially around Jerusalem. They are
particularly interested in a group of revolutionary Jews known as The
Poor. This group was headed by a devout Jewish leader named Yeshua who
was crucified by the Romans for insurrection.

After his death, the movement was led by his brother James, and his
chief disciple " Peter " who was a known revolutionary.

 "God CANNOT be manifested in a
 human being" is the succint explanation I think.

That is correct. It's called idolatry and is forbidden by Jewish and
Muslim law.

 However, I have yet to
 encounter a rabbi on the Internet who could defend such a theology.

It is what it is and doesn't need to be defended. Deification of
humans
is purely pagan. Paul of Tarsus deified his version of Jesus for the
pagans so that they could worship something "new" but still within a
context which they understood. Hence the Jewish Jesus became the pagan
Christ, a human deity.

 If you
 find one put him on.
 FWP.

Here I am baby.

" Rabbi " J2


 On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, William Shannon wrote:

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  By: Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal
 
 
  Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal, historian, journalist and lecturer, is a graduate
  of Cornell University and Columbia Law School. During the Second World War,
  he served with the US Army in the Middle East. He later served with the
  Department of State, and as a consultant to the American delegation at the
  organising meeting of the United Nations in San Francisco.
 
  Since 1947, he has been at the forefront in the struggle for a balanced US
  policy in the Middle East. He is the author of several acclaimed books on the
  Middle East, including The Zionist Connection. He now lives in Washington, DC.
 
  On December 18, 1993 Dr. Lilienthal celebrated both his 80th birthday and the
  40th anniversary of his first book, What Price 'Israel'? Dr Lilienthal, who
  is a courageous anti-Zionist Jew, was joined by more than 200 guests who
  travelled from all over the United States to attend. The following excerpt is
  taken from this first book, What Price 'Israel'?
 
  
 
  Today, to trace anyone's descent to ancient Palestine would be a genealogical
  impossibility; and to presume, axiomatically, such a descent for Jews, alone
  among all human groups, is an assumption of purely fictional significance.

Maybe in the middle of the last century the good Doctor's statement
would have been correct.

BUT NOT TODAY! Today, it has been done.

  Most everybody in the Western world could stake out some claim of Palestinian
  descent if genealogical records could be established for two-thousand years.

Genealogical records have been established for the past 2000 years
through
the tracing of the " Cohen " gene.

So far only three groups trace back to that time and that place.
Pay attention now so that this finally sinks in.

a) The Ashkenazi Jews of Europe.
b) The Sephardi Jews of Southern Europe, the Mideast, and South
America.
and...Get ready for this one.
c) A sect of Black African Jews of Zimbabwe

  And there are, indeed, people who, though not by the widest stretch of
  imagination Jewish, proudly make that very claim: some of the oldest of the
  South's aristocratic families play a game of 

Re: [CTRL] The Khazars

2000-03-10 Thread nessie

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Do tell Nessie!


At least that's what the Nova show said.

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[CTRL] Report: Affluenza

2000-03-10 Thread DIG alfred webre

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London Telegraph 3/10/00
FAMILIES in California's impossibly-prosperous Silicon Valley
are struggling with a new trauma - "sudden wealth syndrome" or
"affluenza".
The wealth generated by the internet and computer boom is
inducing feelings of inadequacy among children whose families
are not involved in the industry. For the super-rich, the problem
lies in convincing their children that money is not the most
important thing in life.
Courses are now held at the Money, Meaning and Choices
Institute in San Francisco, to "explore the psychological
opportunities and emotional challenges of having and inheriting
money". Merrill Lynch, the financial services company, offers a
"financial parenting" course to "heighten awareness of wealth's
responsibilities".
In Palo Alto, the heart of Silicon Valley, a newsletter is
published on the issue with the editor, Judy Barber, offering
sessions for families to deal with "the unique issues that children
of affluence face". Fathers are being advised not to brag about
buying yachts and private planes but to emphasise to children the
importance of luck and hard work in achieving success.
The children of non-computer industry professionals, such as
doctors and teachers, however, are said to be suffering. The
Child and Family Institute in Menlo Park offers stress classes for
pre-teen children and family discussions about values. Kris
Goodrich, a co-founder, said the fear of failure has become
pervasive. "Children look at the middle class as poverty and
going to Hawaii only once a year is considered the bottom rung."
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[CTRL] Peru UFOs: What are these?

2000-03-10 Thread DIG alfred webre

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It would be very interesting if you could post your calm opinion about what
the UFO craft below are: Extraterrestrial craft; blackbudget secret military
craft; multi-dimensional "virtual reality" masquerades.  Thanks. Alfred
=
Conspiracy Journal - http://www.webufo.net

LATE BREAKING UFO NEWS FROM CONSPIRACY JOURNAL

- THIS JUST IN DEPARTMENT -

UFO FILMED BY PERUVIAN TELEVISON CAMERAMEN

LIMA (IPRI-03.10.00) -- During the early morning hours of this March 10th,
a UFO made a slow flyby of the city of Lima at a very low altitude for
about 15 minutes, allowing many local residents to witness its unhurried
passing. Some witnesses claimed having seen small spheres emerge from the
object at a given point, drifting away aimlessly. Dozens of witnesses
phoned the news media and several minutes of video footage were secured by
camera operators from Panamericana Television (Lima Channel 5). The news
has been spread all over the country through the second edition (noontime)
of the "24 Horas" (24 Hours) news program on Panamericana TV. The
following is a transcript of the broadcast:

Voice of Valia Barak, anchorwoman on the "24 Horas" set: "A strange object
crossed the skies over Lima early this morning. Thousands of citizens
witnessed the phenomenon..."

Voice of Viviana Coehllo, on site reporter, with camera image by Juan C.
Amoretti: "This was the object observed by many at 1:30 a.m.. Strange
movments and plays of light were seen in the heavens over the city of
Lima, drawing the attention of hundreds of onlookers..." (A group of four
lights in a triangular arrangement can be seen, moving with
uncharacteristic slowness over the rooftops).

Eyewitness (an anonymous young woman engaged in nocturnal street sweeping
for the municipal authorities): "It was a big ship with yellow and red
lights...and ten little ships came out..."

Voice of Viviana Cohello: "A considerable number of phone calls from El
Callao, Los Olivos, San martin de Porres and Villa El Slavador congested
the switchboards of Radio Programas del Peru (RPP). The common denominator
was the unidentified flying object that flew over our capital."

Eyewitness Bruno Guzman, journalist: "It is quite startling to go from
receiving the claims, phone calls, and eyewitness accounts to become a
participant in this environment, this spectacle we've just seen. We can't
quite explain properly or scientifically what happened this morning.

Around one o'clock in the morning we began receiving calls from the
public; later we peered out the 7th floor window; later we climbed up on
the rooftop, and we've been able to attest to the lights [being reported],
these points of color that changed intermittently from blue, red to white
light, moving strangely."

(Information courtesy Rose Marie Paz Wells. Translation credit (c) 2000,
Scott Corrales)

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

2000-03-10 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000310c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No psychos were teleported to produce this bulletin; shot from cannon.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Baker Goes To Space: http://www.ape-o-naut.org/images/baker.gif
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Chemtrails Activist Reports Harassment, Possible Attempt on Life:
# CIA Probing NY Virus As Possible Terrorist Bio-Terrorism:
# Y2K Effects To Last Throughout 2000 - the threat that never ends:
# Could some UFOs Be Secret Military Aircraft? Submedical sez:
  all the poop - http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/news.html

@ Investigators have been amply rewarded with reports of sightings, landings
   contact with occupants originating in Peru, Brazil and Argentina, which
  have been the sites of some of the most spectacular UFO-related incidents
  recorded. Documented cases of contact between humans and nonhumans, see
  www.inexplicata.com/samizdat/paranormal/channelers_and_contacteesby.html

: Where do you most like to go forsightings? Do you work UFO observations
into your vacation plans? Do you visit Manchu Picchu, Sedona, Mt.Shasta, New
Jersey for the vibes/saucers/implants? D'ya get a Frequent Flyers discount?

# Lord Stanley: Hockey-Playing Robot. MONTREAL - He may be just spare parts
  but Lord Stanley wields a mean stick. Prize-winning, floor-hockey-player:
  http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2000/03/09/robot000309
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# THE BIGGEST THING IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. NASA's durable Galileo spacecraft
  is joining up with Saturn-bound Cassini on a mission to study Jupiter's
  magnetosphere -- the biggest thing in the solar system. How big is it? If
  Jupiter's magnetosphere were visible, it would LOOK larger than the Sun or
  Moon in spite of its great distance from Earth. Also: plasma wave sounds
  were recorded by Galileo in 1996 as it sailed past Jupiter's largest moon
  Ganymede.  Galileo will swing past Ganymede two more times before the end
  of 2000. Cowabunga! http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast10mar_1.htm

# Galileo Spacecraft To Fly With A Friend, Earn Bonus Miles, See The Sights
  Around Jupiter, Get Laid: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9507646
# Actor's Mir Mission Still in Doubt - "All I need is lots and lots of cash"
  for the trip: http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000310/16/russia-saving-mir
# HST Maps Dying Stars InNearby Galaxy www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9507645
  and see http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_671000/671503.stm

: What are your favorite stars/planet(oid)s/satellites? Have you aimed your
probes carefully? Have you missed lately? Did you have a good excuse? Are
your targets dying? Can you capture imagery/data/vibes before they're gone?

# Orbiter reveals buried channels beneath Mars - formed by massive water
  flows. Possible presence of water makes scientists wonder about life on
  Mars: http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2000/03/10/mars000310
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Ted Turner Turns Back Time. VERMEJO PARK RANCH, NM (AP) - Ted Turner, CNN
  mogul who threw America into the future, has embarked in just the opposite
  direction across the US West. Since 1987, he has bought a staggering 1.7
  mln acres of the Great Plains [becoming the largest private landowner in
  the US] and is using his fortune to turn back the hands of time. He is
  restoring buffalo  other native animals  plants  tearing away barbed
  wire, bringing back the wide-open vistas that existed before the West was
  won. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2564880726-1c8
# TRIBAL SPIRIT: http://metroactive.com/sonoma/nativeamerican-0010.html

: Would you like to turn back the hands of time? How far would you go? Would
you cover up evidence more effectively? Would you restore biosystems? Would
you eliminate Hitler, Einstein, Custer, Luther, Attilla, Jesus, Moses, me?

# Waco - Trooper Says Missing Door  Delta Force Body Removed By Government.
  A Texas state trooper who stood guard as the flames were subsiding April
  19, 1993, at Mount Carmel, told lawyers that he saw a cargo van enter the
  property  leave carrying a body bag, that a rental truck spirited debris
  away from the scene and that he heard FBI agents discussing a gunfight.
  http://www.mysa.com/pantheon/homebase/hbm%26s/0903bwaco_body_0309nz.shtml
@ The Waco Data Page: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wacodatapage.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ THE PROPHETS CONFERENCE ~ MAYALAND: The Natures of Healing  Mind - Summer
  Solstice Y2K: Merida, Yucatan, Mexico; sacred Mayan sites Mayapan, Chichen
  Itza, Uxmal - Deepak Chopra MD, James Redfield, Norman Shealy MD, Uri
  Geller, Tom Kenyon MA, Doreen Virtue PhD, Elder Hunbatz Men, 

[CTRL] U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS

2000-03-10 Thread Nicky Molloy

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U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/1780/concentration.html
Photos on this url



WAKE UP!!!
Civilian Internment Camps a Reality



The Planned U.S. and Canadian Concentration Camp Program


Here are some photo's and information with regards to the concentration camp
program established in the US under the Rex 84 program. Rex 84 was
established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed
the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in
detention centres by F.E.M.A. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be
closed down and to be turned into prisons. These prisons are located all
across the USA. Therefore it is unreasonable to assume that the mass exodus
of illegal aliens was the true intention.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will
be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose.
Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the
program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the
federal government. F.E.M.A. is the executive arm of the coming police state
and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders
already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework
for this operation.




A U.S map which details the locations of detention centers, MJTF Police
Bases and U.N. Combat Groups. The Picture of this map came from, "70th Week
Magazine" P.O. Box 771, Gladwater, Tx. 75647. This is a 1994 photo.



This is a blow up of the legend of the map below.


a. A dark star symbol=Russian Troops
b. A dark circle dot=U.N. Troops
c. A circle with a "c" in it=CONCENTRATION CAMPS (Primary)
d. A square dark symbol=Secret Underground Facilities
e. A dark triangular shaped symbol=Actions (Search and Seizures)
f. The @ symbol=CONCENTRATION CAMPS (Secondary)
DETENTION FACILITIES: Are stars, with a white center.
MJTF POLICE BASES: are white stars in a round black circle.
U.N. COMBAT GROUPS: are marked on the map with airplane's.


This is another U.S. map, that contains the markings, for the different
camps.




This shows the North Eastern section of the U.S., and shows a closer look,
where U.N. troops are located in North Western Montana, and a few other
states as well.




This is a view of the South Eastern U.S. on a map. The map is named, Region
4, 15 August 1994, "Phase III Operation". The legend shows a black star
symbol, where Russian troops/Armor are. U.N. symbol, for United Nations
(foreign battle groups). The map also has markings for "Ports of Entrys"
into the U.S., by sea.




This is a photo copy view, of the Wilcox Correctional Institution. It also
has exact details on location, and other information about the camp.




Another view of Wilcox Correctional Institution.




Here is a photo blowup, of the directions of where Wilcox is, as well as
other important information of the institution.




There are over 100 primary and secondary concentration camps across the US.
Each houses about 20,000 prisoners. Currently the largest of these
facilities is the just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is
a gigantic mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million
people. The majority of these facilities have no prisoners but are currently
staffed by military personal. The camps all have have railroad facilities,
as well as roads, coming and going out of them, to get there. Also quite a
few are closed down military bases and are adjacent to airport facilities.




More Concentration Camp Photographs

United States Army Document Detailing Civilian Detention Centres





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Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #3

2000-03-10 Thread Ric Carter

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 Is NewAge culture like a toildt bowl - al the really big turds
 float to the top? Why?

 Because evolution works that way.

Blame buoyancy, not evolution -- those most filled with hot air
tend to ascend.  Cf. the Ascended Masters and their acolytes.

Ah, I blame the above horrendous misspellings on 1) mind-control
rays, 2) faulty implants, 3) sabotaged spell-checker, 4) Bilder-
berger plots, 5) very negative vibes, 6) microscopic radioactive
spiders from the galactic core invaded my brain, 7) it's late and
I'm tired, 8) all the above, 9) other.

But I digress.  I was going to ask why Dr. Richard Boylan wasn't
in the list of invited poo-bahs -- has he been arrested again?
I'm sure we could all think of some of The Usual Suspects who
aren't making it to this particular scene.  Why?  What's holding
them back?  Or do they know a Terrible Secret?

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[CTRL] ONE-WORLD RELIGION NOW OFFICIALLY BORN!!

2000-03-10 Thread Nicky Molloy

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 ONE-WORLD RELIGION NOW OFFICIALLY BORN!! A SPIRITUAL EQUIVALENT TO THE
UNITED NATIONS!

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1094.cfm


Now, the political United Nations has a spiritual equivalent, a New World
Order Religion, called "United Religions". The target date for full
implementation is the same year as all other New World Order target date,
2,000 AD. A major development in the coming Kingdom of Antichrist


NEWS BRIEF: "Interfaith Meeting Gives Birth to United Religions", by Richard
Scheinin, Mercury News Religion and Ethics Writer, Mercury Center, San Jose
Mercury News, Online at
http://www.mercurycenter.com/news/local/docs/017608.htm


United Religions Initiative - Youth Global Network Symbol For New Global
Religion
http://www.united-religions.org/youth/index.html

"Nearly 200 delegates wrapped up a week-long interfaith meeting at Stanford
on Friday, predicting they had given birth to a movement as well as a
spiritual institution: the United Religions. The 'spiritual United Nations',
as some have referred to it, would be a world assembly for humanity's myriad
spiritual traditions. The international 'summit conference' brought together
delegates from every continent to inaugurate formal efforts to figure out
the organization's structure and mission and launch a charter-writing
process. After several years of talking, the initiative's planners had
finally gotten down to business."


" 'You are deputized!', the Rev. William E. Swing, bishop of the Episcopal
Diocese of California, told delegates as they prepared to go home. 'Tell the
people that there is a United Religions, and that somewhere in the world, it
is beginning to happen: that the religions are going to have an oasis where
they can talk about peace.'[This conference was held June 23-27, 1997] "

.

Now that we have established the Biblical Prophecy that foretells the
existence of a False Religious Prophet that leads the world into worship of
Antichrist, and now that we have established the Biblical truth that this
false religious leader will claim to be Christian and will be accepted as
such, we need now to review a most important, and pertinent part of the New
World Order Plan. In NEWS1052, we reprinted the entire text of my seminar
notes from a seminar given to members of the Boston of Theosophy, and to any
"seekers" of spiritual truth. During this seminar, Bill Lambert, the New
England Director of Theosophy, detailed the plan whereby the New World Order
Religion would be established. Let us review the pertinent passages.


The name of this seminar, " POSSIBLE AND PROBABLE EVENTS IN THE FUTURE", was
held at the Boston office of the House of Theosophy on 8/18/91. During this
seminar lecture, Lambert gave many important and revealing aspects of the
New World Order Plan to produce Antichrist and his False Prophet. Lambert
revealed that the person had been selected to fulfill this religious
leadership position, and it was none other than the Roman Catholic Pope!!
Listen to Lambert's explanation:


"At the proper moment in history, the Pope will visit the combined
Jewish/Christian/Moslem sector of Jerusalem to announce that all religions
should be combined into one. "


Thus, the Roman Catholic Pope has been selected to be the top global
religious leader of the New World Order Religion!! This makes him the
Biblical False Prophet!! But, what about the prophecy, in Rev 13:11-12, that
he will be the same type of spiritually-empowered individual as the
Antichrist? Fortunately, I had the opportunity to get this question
answered, as well. When Mr. Lambert began his seminar, he stated that anyone
could interrupt him at any time with a question, simply by raising his hand.
Shortly after stating that the Pope would be the leader of the New World
Order Religion, Lambert began to share with us that the Antichrist can only
arise after a significant people could accept him. Lambert likened this
acceptance as "being a proper receptor" for the Christ [Antichrist]. Quoting
Lambert:


"Energies want to flow from the Hierarchy to earth to produce the physical
manifestation of the Christ; but, such flow can only occur when humanity
raises its collective consciousness to be properly awakened receptors."
(Page 617-618, Externalisation of the Hierarchy, paraphrased by Mr.
Lambert).


At this point, I raised my hand to ask Mr. Lambert, 'You spoke earlier about
the Pope going to Jerusalem; when Lord Maitreya makes his appearance, there
will be three types of people:

1. Those whose consciousness has been properly raised so they can readily
accept him;

2. Those whose consciousness has been raised somewhat but not so high that
they can readily and immediately accept him, but they might be able to
accept him after further enlightenment;

3. Those who will never accept him.'

I continued:

'What responsibility do the leaders of the world's religions have toward
those members of their flock who are of 

Re: [CTRL] Report: Affluenza

2000-03-10 Thread Steve Wingate

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(I'll bet they send them all in the direction of the Iluminati. But then I'm told by
(666) that they no longer exist. Most Illuminating!

Steve


On 11 Mar 00, at 0:43, DIG alfred webre wrote:

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 London Telegraph 3/10/00
 FAMILIES in California's impossibly-prosperous Silicon Valley
 are struggling with a new trauma - "sudden wealth syndrome" or
 "affluenza".
 The wealth generated by the internet and computer boom is
 inducing feelings of inadequacy among children whose families
 are not involved in the industry. For the super-rich, the problem
 lies in convincing their children that money is not the most
 important thing in life.
 Courses are now held at the Money, Meaning and Choices
 Institute in San Francisco, to "explore the psychological
 opportunities and emotional challenges of having and inheriting
 money". Merrill Lynch, the financial services company, offers a
 "financial parenting" course to "heighten awareness of wealth's
 responsibilities".
 In Palo Alto, the heart of Silicon Valley, a newsletter is
 published on the issue with the editor, Judy Barber, offering
 sessions for families to deal with "the unique issues that children
 of affluence face". Fathers are being advised not to brag about
 buying yachts and private planes but to emphasise to children the
 importance of luck and hard work in achieving success.
 The children of non-computer industry professionals, such as
 doctors and teachers, however, are said to be suffering. The
 Child and Family Institute in Menlo Park offers stress classes for
 pre-teen children and family discussions about values. Kris
 Goodrich, a co-founder, said the fear of failure has become
 pervasive. "Children look at the middle class as poverty and
 going to Hawaii only once a year is considered the bottom rung."
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[CTRL] Aides to Reno Twice Urged . . . (fwd)

2000-03-10 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/031100dems-donate.html

The New York Times
March 11, 2000

Aides to Reno Twice Urged Independent Prosecutor for Gore,
Interviews and Files Show

By DAVID JOHNSTON and DON VAN NATTA Jr.

WASHINGTON, March 10 -- Senior Justice Department officials twice
urged Attorney General Janet Reno to appoint an independent
counsel to investigate Vice President Al Gore for his role in
political fund-raising and at one point came closer to persuading
her than was previously known, according to government officials
and previously undisclosed documents.

Not only did the F.B.I. director, Louis J. Freeh, and Ms. Reno's
chief campaign finance prosecutor, Charles G. La Bella, conclude
that Ms. Reno was obligated to seek an independent counsel, but
so did aides like Robert S. Litt, a highly influential political
deputy at the Justice Department who was often said to have
opposed such appointments.

But Ms. Reno decided against them and ordered the investigation
of Mr. Gore closed in December, 1998. That decision lifted an
enormous political weight off Mr. Gore as he prepared to seek the
presidency and became one of the attorney general's most
controversial and criticized moves.

Myron Marlin, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said that
Ms. Reno made her independent counsel decisions impartially and
that her willingness to refer cases to outside prosecutors was
demonstrated by her decision to seek such appointments in the
cases of seven top Clinton administration officials.

As to Mr. Gore, Mr. Marlin said: "The attorney general relied on
the advice of a number of officials in this case, career
employees who worked throughout Republican and Democratic
administrations and had different views on the issue among them.
In the end, the attorney general based her decision on the facts
and the law without regard to politics."

The Justice Department's investigation of Mr. Gore followed an
erratic trajectory. It began before the 1996 election when
federal prosecutors in Los Angeles opened an inquiry into the
vice president's activities at a fund-raising event at the Hsi
Lai Temple, a Buddhist temple in Hacienda Heights, Calif., in
April 1996.

But in an early, pivotal decision, senior Justice Department
officials in Washington ordered the prosecutor, Assistant United
States Attorney Stephen A. Mansfield, to cease his investigation
and turn over any information he had gathered to prosecutors in
Washington because Mr. Gore was covered by the independent
counsel statute.

"As would be necessary in any matter with potential independent
counsel ramifications, your office should take no steps to
investigate these matters at this time," Lee J. Radek, the chief
of the public integrity section, wrote in a Nov. 1, 1996 letter
to a top Federal prosecutor in Los Angeles. The letter was
recently obtained by The New York Times.

The department's temple inquiry exonerated Mr. Gore by 1997, and
when he was later interviewed by the F.B.I. in 1997 and 1998, he
was never even questioned about the temple. The investigation led
to an indictment of Maria Hsia, a California immigration
consultant and longtime fund-raiser for the vice president, who
was convicted by a Federal jury here last week.

Ms. Hsia's conviction has kept alive the political embarrassment
that the event caused for the vice president, the putative
Democratic presidential nominee this year. His opponent, Gov.
George W. Bush of Texas, has vowed to make the vice president's
role in campaign fund-raising in 1996 a major issue in the
campaign this fall. Today, Mr. Bush said, "The vice president
needs to clear up what role he played in raising money from the
White House."

Jim Kennedy, a spokesman for the president and vice president,
said: "The fact that some disagreed with the attorney general's
decision isn't news. But the bottom line hasn't changed. This has
all been investigated by many people at a cost of millions of
dollars with absolutely no finding of wrongdoing on the part of
the president or vice president."

A review of the Justice Department's inquiry of Mr. Gore's role
in the 1996 campaign finance investigation shows that the vice
president only narrowly avoided the appointment of an independent
counsel to investigate charges of illegal fund-raising, not for
any actions related to the temple for but for fund-raising phone
calls that the vice president placed from his White House office.

The closeness of the call on Mr. Gore's case was not known
previously. The debates kept the decision open until the final
day of the 90-day deadline imposed by the independent counsel
law, when Mr. Radek and other lawyers from the public integrity
section persuaded Ms. Reno that the facts would never warrant
prosecution, the officials said.

The searing debate has left a residue of bitterness among a wider
group of current and former Justice Department and
law-enforcement