RE: [DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be translucent

2004-01-16 Thread Shawn K. Hall
Hi Monty,

> Also,  dqsd could include a forth set of (vanilla)
> graphics that are dqsd specific, and didn't attempt
> to match the scheme of the OS's.. This would truly
> set a look for the toolbar that would be the same
> across all OS's..

Though I value the sentiment - branding is a wonderful marketing
tool - I personally despise many of the existing implementations of
branded toolbars. For example, I *know* I'm not the only one to dump
ZoneAlarm because of their horrific choice of colors in their
deskband.

Regards,

Shawn K. Hall
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RE: [DQSD-Users] xp olive scheme mods

2004-01-16 Thread Shawn K. Hall
> Is there a way in WinXP to programatically figure out
> which theme is running?

Are the scheme settings/colors accessible via CSS using the default
windows class values? Ideally we'd just have a single 'routing' XP CSS
file that verified certain values and imported the appropriate scheme
if available. Via JS we can evaluate the applicable style values
(which includes windows color names) so we ought to be able to parse
the settings and determine if a scheme is applied, and *probably*
which one. Of course, this is conjecture and I refuse to install XP on
any of my computers - so I can't test it out.

If anyone is interested I can send you some code and links to build
off of. Any takers?

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Re: [DQSD-Users] xp olive scheme mods

2004-01-16 Thread Brent Beardsley
Hi Monty,

Looks good.  I think the installer should set the
proper css instead of making users have to mess with
manually setting it.  Anyone up on NSIS and Windows
version checking?  Is there a way in WinXP to
programatically figure out which theme is running?

Just my $.02,

Brent

--- Monty Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been doing some messing with the toolbar to
> get it to blend with the XP olive color scheme..
> 
> I have attached a graphic showing what I have
> settled on.. (olivesnap.png)
> 
> I also made some tiny changes, that I would like to
> post to get feedback etc :
> 
> I set a css id on the table used to house the
> gobutton.  I called it "gotable".  I wanted to be
> able to control the display of the gobutton via css.
>  This also allowed the graphic to be vertically
> centered, which has been bothering me...  I think
> this change would be good no matter what OS the
> toolbar is in..   Its nice to have control from css
> instead of hardcoded values in the html..
> 
> 
> I added some css styles for #banner.
> 
> changed some of the css for body.
> 
> changed the cursor for these buttons to be hand, set
> the backgrounds etc...  
> 
> Attached are the files I modified, and the graphics
> to match the olive scheme..
> 
> 
> 
> I tested the search.htm on a win2k box and the
> change did not adversely affect the toolbar
> display..
> 
> 
> Comments?  Suggestions?
> 
> 
> Monty
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/png name=olivesnap.png

-
DQSD Home Page or check the FAQ.#* Type in your search
terms and hit Enter to do a Google search.* If you're
feeling lucky, go directly to Google's first hit using
an exclamation point: "Crest toothpaste!"* Look up
phone numbers and email by using # and @,
respectively: "Piper Smith (Ithaca, NY)#", "Bob
Jones@"* Load a web page by typing in the URL:
"www.microsoft.com".* Translate between English and
other languages (en, zh, fr, de, it, ja, ko, pt, es):
"some words en-es". Or translate entire web pages:
"www.apple.com en-fr"* Convert between currencies:
"100 usd>gbp"* Mathematical expressions: "4*(pi-3)",
"pow(1.06,30)"* Navigate previous searches with ctrl-P
and ctrl-N or the Up/Down arrows.. Type "!prefix" to
see only matching entries.* A clock appears after when
idle. Right-click for a calendar.* Switches can be
abbreviated: "at ram /S" is "at ram /subject".*
Following are more query codes grouped by category. 
To disable a search uncheck the checkbox next to the
search name.
# (this table is automatically generated)
If you want to make additions or improvements, please
do.The deskbar is customizable and completely
open-source.
* Edit localprefs.js to customize various
functionality.  Look in preferences.js  to see all of
the available options.* Edit localsearch.css to
customize fonts, colors, sizes, etc.  Look in
search.css  to see all of the available style
settings.* Shortcuts are defined in localaliases.txt.*
You can add new searches by adding new XML files to
the localsearches subdirectory.* After editing the
code, type "!" in the search bar to reload it.* If you
have questions or contributions, please post them to
the  discussion group  and share them with the
community.  Report bugs or feature requests here.

Finally, the following are default key bindings.  Some
of these can be customized in
localprefs.js:Key(s)DescriptionF1Display
menuCtrl-EnterAdds www. prefix and/or .com suffix to
string if necessary and launches URL.  Similar to the
IE key-binding.Shift-EnterAlways opens a new window
for the search regardless of the
reuseBrowserWindowMode setting.  This works only when
IE is the default browser.Ctrl-B, F8Search back
through the search history for the current
textShift-Ctrl-B, Shift-F8Search forward through the
history for the current textCtrl-DelClear the search
historyWin-SMake the search bar active (i.e., make it
have the current focus)Ctrl-P, UpDisplay previous
searchCtrl-N, DownDisplay next searchShift
[drag-n-drop]When dragging text to the search bar, if
the shift key is held down when dropping the text the
default search won't be automatically invoked.
-->Search
  // include the overwriting stylesheet if necessary 
if (typeof localstylesurl != "undefined" &
localstylesurl != "")document.write("
");  getDefaultLanguage();  initGlobals();// show
localized title
stringdocument.title=local(SEARCH_TITLE);  // include
the localsearch file if necessary  if (typeof
localsearchurl != "undefined" & localsearchurl != "") 
  document.write("");
// register key press hooks so addons, etc can handle
keypressesfunction registerKeypressHook( keypressHook
){  if ( typeof keypressHooks == 'undefined' )   
keypressHooks = new Array();  keypressHooks.push(
keypressHook );}// def() called when the user hits
"enter" in the textboxfunction def(){  // handle
things like !! and !foo  if (!recent()) return false; 
// grab the contents  var t = document.deff.q.value; 
// store the query in the windows autocomplete c

[DQSD-Users] xp olive scheme mods

2004-01-16 Thread Monty Scroggins



I have been doing some messing with the toolbar to 
get it to blend with the XP olive color scheme..
 
I have attached a graphic showing what I have 
settled on.. (olivesnap.png)
 
I also made some tiny changes, that I would 
like to post to get feedback etc :
 
I set a css id on the table used to house the 
gobutton.  I called it "gotable".  I wanted to be able to control the 
display of the gobutton via css.  This also allowed the graphic to be 
vertically centered, which has been bothering me...  I think this change 
would be good no matter what OS the toolbar is in..   Its nice to have 
control from css instead of hardcoded values in the html..
 
 
I added some css styles for 
#banner.
 
changed some of the css for body.
 
changed the cursor for these buttons to be hand, 
set the backgrounds etc...  
 
Attached are the files I modified, and the graphics 
to match the olive scheme..
 
 
 
I tested the search.htm on a win2k box and the 
change did not adversely affect the toolbar display..
 
 
Comments?  Suggestions?
 
 
Monty
 
 
<>Title: Search














  


  
  
  
  
  
  
  


  
  

  

Dave's Quick Search Deskbar
  
Designed to be placed on the Windows taskbar.
For documentation, click here.

  














/*
Use this as localsearch.css to make xp olive color scheme look nice.
*/

body
{
 background: #a8b680  url(xptoolbartop_olive.bmp) repeat-x fixed top;
 margin:0px;
 padding:0px;
 border-right:1px solid #919f6a;
}

.txtfld, .clock
{
 background: transparent url(xptoolbarbot_olive.bmp) repeat-x fixed bottom;
 color: black;
 border-width:0px;
 padding-top:8px;
 padding-left:4px;
 padding-right:6px;
 padding-bottom:5px;
 margin-left:1px;
 margin-right:1px;
}

.gobutton, .mogobutton, .mdgobutton
{
 background: transparent url(xptoolbarbot_olive.bmp) repeat-x fixed bottom;
 border:0px;
 color: black;
 padding:0px;
 cursor:hand;
 margin:0px;
}

#gotable {
 background: #afbc84;
 text-align:left;
 vertical-align:left;
 margin-top:4px;
 border-bottom:1px solid #a8b680;
 border-right:1px solid #919f6a;
 border-left:1px solid #919f6a;
 height:100%;
}

#banner {
padding-right:0px;
cursor:hand;
}
/*
Styles for the calendar
*/
.cal
{
 background:#e0E7b8;
 color:black;
 border:1px solid black;
}
.calnavmonth, .calnavmonthhigh, .calnavyear, .calnavyearhigh
{
  padding:1px;
  border-width:0;
}
.caltodayevent, .caltodayeventhigh
{
  background-color:#fcfcfc;
  border:1px solid black;
}
.caltoday, .caltodayhigh
{
  background-color:#fcfcfc;
  border:1px solid black;
}

/*
Styles for the help box
*/
.helpboxBody
{
  background: window;
}
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Re: [DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be translucent

2004-01-16 Thread Monty Scroggins
> Can't we just keep it the way it is, with the >> char, whatever it's
> called? It should blend in OK with most themes...?
>

The reason I made the statement that possibly it should include a graphic is
because it doesnt blend in.. It is a menu button and inherits its color from
the system, as opposed to the menubar which has graphics overlayed..
These two items next to each other dont look right. *but* with enough
css enhancements, the '>>' button can be made to blend in.  see my following
post..

Monty




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Re: [DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be translucent

2004-01-16 Thread Glenn Carr
Monty asked me to post my XP silver stuff.  Here it is.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kim Gräsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be
translucent


> Hi Monty,
>
> > I think a couple of things could be done to help with the XP display
> > problem.
>
> Yeah, that'd be great, it looks a little murky in all but the Windows
> Classic theme at the moment.
>
> > Also,  dqsd could include a forth set of (vanilla) graphics
> > that are dqsd
> > specific, and didn't attempt to match the scheme of the
> > OS's..This would
> > truly set a look for the toolbar that would be the same
> > across all OS's..
>
> Sure, if it's possible to make one that looks OK with all of XP blue,
> silver, olive and Windows Classic... Sounds pretty difficult, but this
> is even less my area than regexes ;-). It's a great idea.
>
> > The '>>' menubutton would have to be
> > changed to optionally load a graphic, but this should be
> > doable in css as well.
>
> Can't we just keep it the way it is, with the >> char, whatever it's
> called? It should blend in OK with most themes...?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim
>
>
>
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RE: [DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be translucent

2004-01-16 Thread Kim Gräsman
Hi Monty,

> I think a couple of things could be done to help with the XP display
> problem. 

Yeah, that'd be great, it looks a little murky in all but the Windows
Classic theme at the moment.

> Also,  dqsd could include a forth set of (vanilla) graphics 
> that are dqsd
> specific, and didn't attempt to match the scheme of the 
> OS's..This would
> truly set a look for the toolbar that would be the same 
> across all OS's.. 

Sure, if it's possible to make one that looks OK with all of XP blue,
silver, olive and Windows Classic... Sounds pretty difficult, but this
is even less my area than regexes ;-). It's a great idea.

> The '>>' menubutton would have to be 
> changed to optionally load a graphic, but this should be 
> doable in css as well.

Can't we just keep it the way it is, with the >> char, whatever it's
called? It should blend in OK with most themes...?

Cheers,
Kim



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[DQSD-Users] Re: Background of search button should be translucent

2004-01-16 Thread Monty Scroggins
> > The background of the image is transparent..   The problem
> > is, XP overlays graphics on the title bars.  The color you see in the
back of
> > the image is the system 3d objects' color coming through the graphic.

I think a couple of things could be done to help with the XP display
problem.  The default toolbar looks awful on XP.   A css style to adjust a
bit on the toolbar to be more acceptable across all OS's would help, but it
doesnt fix the problem, (although I had a css style which I thought was
decent on all OS's )...  but it was a change in look from the original
default...

XP comes with 3 color schemes - Blue, Olive, and Silver.I think we could
support these schemes, but for any themes downloaded from the internet, the
user would be on his/her own to adjust graphics/css to match..
We already have blue graphics, I have seen silver (Glenn), all we would need
is olive, and a way to either modify the xplocalsearch.css to call the
appropriate graphics etc, or two new css sheets could be added to the distro
that can be copied.  (at 950 bytes for the current localsearch.css this
might be the best way to go)..  Does anyone out there have the olive
graphics that could be contributed?

Also,  dqsd could include a forth set of (vanilla) graphics that are dqsd
specific, and didn't attempt to match the scheme of the OS's..This would
truly set a look for the toolbar that would be the same across all OS's..
The '>>' menubutton would have to be changed to optionally load a graphic,
but this should be doable in css as well.

Of course the graphics overlays should be optional, as in any OS other than
XP, the toolbar blends in with the taskbar, and the user might not want to
have a toolbar with its own look..

Just a thought or two..

Monty






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