Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[Laurieskatz]

I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of 
water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. 

Syringing is easier than pilling at my house.

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

 

When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting 
it with my fingers. 

(Chicken & Beef flavors)

Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in 
his mouth.

 

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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Emeraldkittee 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,
 
Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but 
have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be 
pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he 
could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to 
eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 
temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is 
telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating 
physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep 
snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell 
out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.  
 
you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think 
the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. 
 Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue Remedy so 
I'm giving that a try with him too.  
 
thanks for all your help.
Shannon

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From: ter...@tazzys.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM



Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.



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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Lorrie 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?
> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his
> room froze over.? ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro
> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.? ? this is so
> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.? ? argh.
> Shannon ? ?
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[terrie]

When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. 
(Chicken & Beef flavors)
Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againFrom: Emeraldkittee Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.   you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too.   thanks for all your help.Shannon--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:From: ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AMCypro is also used to enchance their appetite.Cypro has many uses.TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescueDedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.   Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againFrom: Lorrie Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgShannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it soundslike he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitatedI wondered why Cypro was suggested??LorrieOn 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his> room froze over.? ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.? ? this is so> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.? ? argh.> Shannon ? ?> ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-Inline Attachment Follows-___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Emeraldkittee]

thanks, Katy!  Whimsy loves singing too! he's got his own songs about him, and 
a special fondness for Annie's Song by John Denver.  I may try 'Food, Glorious 
Food' from Oliver next

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Katy Doyle  wrote:


From: Katy Doyle 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 4:25 PM


This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and 
socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-)

When I spend time (in the summer) at feral colonies I feed, I put out smelly/ 
yummy tuna or mackerel and sing. 

I have no real proof that it works, but the cats don't seem to mind me hanging 
out.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:58 PM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:

> Have you tried the catnip spray??  Have you tried the cheapest tuna or maybe 
> raw hamburger (room temp)?  Hot water on top of the hamburger brings out the 
> "juices" and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink the "juices."  Re tuna:  
> The nice solid white doesn't work.  Even my healthy guys want nothing to do 
> with that...the very cheap, in water stuff that may turn your stomach.
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote:
> 
>> Actually, that's a great idea.  Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with
>> talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems
>> beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
>> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> 
>> hi Natalie,
>> 
>> Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki,
>> regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got
>> several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts,
>> sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting
>> beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions.  I'm wondering if
>> he'd like a little tv or some music.   I have never had luck with Feliway
>> nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him.  We tried Feliway
>> the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so
>> great!  We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and
>> my brothers OR I want to be outside.  I don't want to be in purgatory.
>> 
>> I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free
>> of course), KFC;
>> 
>> When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil
>> Whimsy still has that feral streak come out.  But we have to try
>> everything.
>> 
>> thank you for your support!!
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Natalie 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM
>> 
>> 
>> Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty soon,
>> he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating up the
>> food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys, catnip to
>> keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to
>> get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
>> forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still think
>> that Feliway could help a lot.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
>> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> 
>> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,
>> sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of
>> playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of
>> his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and
>> angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow
>> and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's
>> everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we
>> live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun
>> until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.
>> 
>> I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this
>> guy, I have no idea.
>> 
>> this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.
>> 
>> argh.
>> Shannon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Katy Doyle]

This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and 
socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-)

When I spend time (in the summer) at feral colonies I feed, I put out smelly/ 
yummy tuna or mackerel and sing. 

I have no real proof that it works, but the cats don't seem to mind me hanging 
out.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:58 PM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:

> Have you tried the catnip spray??  Have you tried the cheapest tuna or maybe 
> raw hamburger (room temp)?  Hot water on top of the hamburger brings out the 
> "juices" and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink the "juices."  Re tuna:  
> The nice solid white doesn't work.  Even my healthy guys want nothing to do 
> with that...the very cheap, in water stuff that may turn your stomach.
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote:
> 
>> Actually, that's a great idea.  Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with
>> talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems
>> beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
>> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> 
>> hi Natalie,
>> 
>> Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki,
>> regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got
>> several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts,
>> sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting
>> beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions.  I'm wondering if
>> he'd like a little tv or some music.   I have never had luck with Feliway
>> nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him.  We tried Feliway
>> the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so
>> great!  We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and
>> my brothers OR I want to be outside.  I don't want to be in purgatory.
>> 
>> I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free
>> of course), KFC;
>> 
>> When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil
>> Whimsy still has that feral streak come out.  But we have to try
>> everything.
>> 
>> thank you for your support!!
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Natalie 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM
>> 
>> 
>> Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty soon,
>> he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating up the
>> food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys, catnip to
>> keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to
>> get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
>> forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still think
>> that Feliway could help a lot.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
>> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
>> 
>> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,
>> sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of
>> playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of
>> his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and
>> angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow
>> and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's
>> everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we
>> live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun
>> until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.
>> 
>> I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this
>> guy, I have no idea.
>> 
>> this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.
>> 
>> argh.
>> Shannon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[MaiMaiPG]

Have you tried the catnip spray??  Have you tried the cheapest tuna or  
maybe raw hamburger (room temp)?  Hot water on top of the hamburger  
brings out the "juices" and has helped some ferals eat and/or drink  
the "juices."  Re tuna:  The nice solid white doesn't work.  Even my  
healthy guys want nothing to do with that...the very cheap, in water  
stuff that may turn your stomach.

On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Natalie wrote:

Actually, that's a great idea.  Whenever I have ferals, I play radio  
with
talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little  
guy seems
beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to  
cats.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Emeraldkittee

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

hi Natalie,

Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors  
of tiki,
regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's  
got
several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/ 
posts,
sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat  
reflecting
beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions.  I'm  
wondering if
he'd like a little tv or some music.   I have never had luck with  
Feliway
nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him.  We tried  
Feliway

the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so
great!  We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you,  
daddy, and

my brothers OR I want to be outside.  I don't want to be in purgatory.

I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food  
(onion free

of course), KFC;

When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil
Whimsy still has that feral streak come out.  But we have to try
everything.

thank you for your support!!

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM


Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty  
soon,
he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating  
up the
food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys,  
catnip to
keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily  
have to

get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still  
think

that Feliway could help a lot.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Emeraldkittee

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat  
again.  Tuna,
sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having  
bursts of
playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter  
out of
his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is  
depressed and
angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that  
snow
and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street -  
it's
everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he  
knows we
live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything  
was fun

until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.

I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill  
this

guy, I have no idea.

this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.

argh.
Shannon





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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Natalie]

Actually, that's a great idea.  Whenever I have ferals, I play radio with
talk shows so that they get used to human voices. But this little guy seems
beyond that stage. After that, classical music is very soothing to cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

hi Natalie,
 
Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki,
regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got
several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts,
sunny windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting
beds, daily brushings and daily feather stick sessions.  I'm wondering if
he'd like a little tv or some music.   I have never had luck with Feliway
nor Rescue Remedy though I can try them again with him.  We tried Feliway
the day of the vet visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so
great!  We feel he is saying 'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and
my brothers OR I want to be outside.  I don't want to be in purgatory. 
 
I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free
of course), KFC;
 
When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil
Whimsy still has that feral streak come out.  But we have to try
everything. 
 
thank you for your support!!

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM


Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty soon,
he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating up the
food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys, catnip to
keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to
get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still think
that Feliway could help a lot.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,
sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of
playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of
his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and
angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow
and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's
everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we
live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun
until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.  
 
I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this
guy, I have no idea.  
 
this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.  
 
argh.
Shannon
 
 


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cyproheptadine vs Cyprofloxin

[Lorrie]

Of course she meant Cyproheptadine. I always think of "Cypro" as
Cyprofloxin.


On 12-26, Sharyl wrote:

> Lorrie, I think she meant Cyproheptadine, an antihistamine.? Some
> have had success using it as an appetite stimulant.?? I worry about
> forcing a cat to eat by using this kind of appetite stimulant
> unless you are sure the cat is not nauseated. Forcing a nauseated
> cat to eat ill only cause food aversions. ? I have found food is
> the best appetite stimulant.? I use gently warmed meat baby food
> (no onions or garlic).? I either offer it on a saucer, on a coated
> baby spoon or syringe feed it.? It all depends on the cat.? My cats
> consider their Gerber's 2 Chicken and Gravy the ultimate treat. ?
> Sharyl?
> 

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[Felvtalk] Fw: [FeLVPositiveCats] Re: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser

[Second Chance Meows]

 Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
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A FeLV Sanctuary



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Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:09:27 PM
Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Re: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser


please cross post to all groups and rescues

We Need Heroes, 
people willing to step up and help these furry kids.  we here at Second Chance 
have been giving these little ones a home with  love and care to over 30 cats, 
for over 8 years . We are totally out of  pocket. Our vet bills run in the 
average of hundreds ( we have  10 cats with us now) and that's when they are in 
good health. when they  get sick the vet costs can raise dramatically.food 
costs average  about 100.00 per month. vitamins, food supplements to help boost 
their  immune systems, litter, climbing trees, waterfalls ( for high o2  
content), toys, beds, perscriptions  all come out of our pockets.
Please we need HEROES to help us in our fight to keep these cats for being 
KILLED
http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser

Michael Johnson
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

[Emeraldkittee]

I let my vet know about this story, too!!  

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Kerry MacKenzie  wrote:


From: Kerry MacKenzie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good news
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:56 AM


Hi Tracey..yes, agree, I asked the rescue group organizer if she was going to 
speak to lab and vet. I'll be following up with her.
Kerry





From: Tracey Shrout 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, December 26, 2010 5:51:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

That is wonderful Kerry! I hope you shared the results with the lab people
and the vet...and I wonder what their reaction was...could save lots of
kitties in the future. Thanks for sharing with us!
Tracey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Dear all
> It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this
> amazing,
> wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best
> Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of
> 4
> kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a
> disease
> called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should
> say, we
> didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she
> was
> the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as
> she'd
> already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.)
> Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg.
> Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the
> disease, 2 on the same day.
> A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats,
> Momcat and
> Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7,
> respectively.
> Still resolutely feral, but healthy!
> Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week
> calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group
> said
> they would re-test in 3 months.
> The lab people said: "Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the
> result."
> One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless.
> The rescue group disregarded the "advice" and earlier this month I took her
> for
> a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative!
> Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news.
> I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal
> experience
> with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but
> remained
> neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained
> positive
> and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too--and both
> times
> I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal
> decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing.
>
> Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in
> your
> care.
> love and hugs and happy holidays.
> Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so
> much in
> their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and
> the
> Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster
> mom to
> Sally.
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[Emeraldkittee]

hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,
 
Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent.  I did pick it up, but 
have not given to him yet.  I have it as a last resort.  He might not be 
pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he 
could be nauseated).  He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to 
eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now.  Also he had 3 
temptation treats.  He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is 
telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating 
physical ones now).  He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep 
snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell 
out, leaving giant sores and bald spots.  
 
you all are so helpful, because I know you understand.  It kills me to think 
the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best 
care.  Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is.  I did pick up Rescue 
Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too.  
 
thanks for all your help.
Shannon

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org  wrote:


From: ter...@tazzys.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM



Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.



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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
From: Lorrie 
Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?
> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his
> room froze over.? ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro
> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.? ? this is so
> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.? ? argh.
> Shannon ? ?
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

[Kerry MacKenzie]

Hi Tracey..yes, agree, I asked the rescue group organizer if she was going to 
speak to lab and vet. I'll be following up with her.
Kerry





From: Tracey Shrout 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, December 26, 2010 5:51:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

That is wonderful Kerry! I hope you shared the results with the lab people
and the vet...and I wonder what their reaction was...could save lots of
kitties in the future. Thanks for sharing with us!
Tracey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Dear all
> It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this
> amazing,
> wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best
> Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of
> 4
> kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a
> disease
> called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should
> say, we
> didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she
> was
> the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as
> she'd
> already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.)
> Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg.
> Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the
> disease, 2 on the same day.
> A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats,
> Momcat and
> Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7,
> respectively.
> Still resolutely feral, but healthy!
> Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week
> calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group
> said
> they would re-test in 3 months.
> The lab people said: "Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the
> result."
> One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless.
> The rescue group disregarded the "advice" and earlier this month I took her
> for
> a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative!
> Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news.
> I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal
> experience
> with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but
> remained
> neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained
> positive
> and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too--and both
> times
> I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal
> decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing.
>
> Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in
> your
> care.
> love and hugs and happy holidays.
> Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so
> much in
> their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and
> the
> Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster
> mom to
> Sally.
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[terrie]

Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite.
Cypro has many uses.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againFrom: Lorrie Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgShannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it soundslike he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitatedI wondered why Cypro was suggested??LorrieOn 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his> room froze over.? ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.? ? this is so> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.? ? argh.> Shannon ? ?> ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[Sharyl]

Lorrie, I think she meant Cyproheptadine, an antihistamine.  Some have had 
success using it as an appetite stimulant.   I worry about forcing a cat to eat 
by using this kind of appetite stimulant unless you are sure the cat is not 
nauseated. Forcing a nauseated cat to eat ill only cause food aversions.
 
I have found food is the best appetite stimulant.  I use gently warmed meat 
baby food (no onions or garlic).  I either offer it on a saucer, on a coated 
baby spoon or syringe feed it.  It all depends on the cat.  My cats consider 
their Gerber's 2 Chicken and Gravy the ultimate treat.
 
Sharyl  

--- On Sun, 12/26/10, Lorrie  wrote:


From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:35 AM


Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?
> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his
> room froze over.?  ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro
> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.?  ? this is so
> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.?  ? argh.
> Shannon ? ?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again

[Lorrie]

Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds
like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic,
and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated
I wondered why Cypro was suggested??

Lorrie

On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote:

> after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat
> again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.?
> He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets
> pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and
> begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't
> wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold -
> after we made such progress.?We live off a busy street - it's
> everything we?got away from with him.?The other thing is now he
> knows we live on the other side of the door with other kitties.?
> Everything was fun until this dr apt and the outside door to his
> room froze over.?  ? I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro
> rx, but how I will pill this guy, I have no idea.?  ? this is so
> heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.?  ? argh.
> Shannon ? ?
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[terrie]

I know I don't post very often but like to say that I use all of the things I listed below.
Original KFC chicken
Cypro
Rescue Remedy in the water
Feliway plugins
I use and do all of this when kitties are not feeling good, not eating or just in a bad mood if they can't get their own way. My rescue and personal cats do not go outdoors.
Anyway, just my thoughtsgood luck!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating againFrom: Natalie Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 7:15 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDon't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects. Pretty soon,he'll be more than happy to be safe inside! Have you tried heating up thefood or adding some very hot water to it? Does he have some toys, catnip tokeep him busy? BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have toget it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on hisforehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense. I still thinkthat Feliway could help a lot.-Original Message-From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of EmeraldkitteeSent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating againafter a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts ofplaying alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out ofhis box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed andangry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snowand cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it'severything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows welive on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fununtil this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.   I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill thisguy, I have no idea.   this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.   argh.Shannon  ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Emeraldkittee]

hi Natalie,
 
Yes, tried heating the food, too, added his fave treats; 4 flavors of tiki, 
regular tuna, regular sardines, kibble, steak from Christmas, - he's got 
several interactive toys that he loves, cat trees, scratching pads/posts, sunny 
windows, catnip toys, loose catnip, filtered water, heat reflecting beds, daily 
brushings and daily feather stick sessions.  I'm wondering if he'd like a 
little tv or some music.   I have never had luck with Feliway nor Rescue Remedy 
though I can try them again with him.  We tried Feliway the day of the vet 
visit. It's so frustrating because he was doing so great!  We feel he is saying 
'I want to be IN the house with you, daddy, and my brothers OR I want to be 
outside.  I don't want to be in purgatory. 
 
I did get an RX for cypro, so I will pick that up, try baby food (onion free of 
course), KFC;
 
When the other boys don't eat, I can syringe, pill them, etc - but lil Whimsy 
still has that feral streak come out.  But we have to try everything. 
 
thank you for your support!!

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From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:15 AM


Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty soon,
he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating up the
food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys, catnip to
keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to
get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still think
that Feliway could help a lot.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,
sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of
playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of
his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and
angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow
and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's
everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we
live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun
until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.  
 
I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this
guy, I have no idea.  
 
this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.  
 
argh.
Shannon
 
 


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] which kind of KFC to order?

[MaiMaiPG]

original
On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote:

I'm probably the only person in the world who has never been to one,  
lol, do I get Grilled? or original?  I always stayed away from the  
rotisserie ones in the grocery store since i figured they had onion/ 
garlic marinade.


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Re: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Natalie]

Don't let him get to you - no matter how much he objects.  Pretty soon,
he'll be more than happy to be safe inside!  Have you tried heating up the
food or adding some very hot water to it?  Does he have some toys, catnip to
keep him busy?  BTW, if you get Rescue Remedy, you don't necessarily have to
get it into his mouth - you can place a few drops on the skin on his
forehead or closer to the ear where the fur isn't so dense.  I still think
that Feliway could help a lot.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna,
sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of
playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of
his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and
angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow
and cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's
everything we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we
live on the other side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun
until this dr apt and the outside door to his room froze over.  
 
I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this
guy, I have no idea.  
 
this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.  
 
argh.
Shannon
 
 


  
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[Felvtalk] which kind of KFC to order?

[Emeraldkittee]

I'm probably the only person in the world who has never been to one, lol, do I 
get Grilled? or original?  I always stayed away from the rotisserie ones in the 
grocery store since i figured they had onion/garlic marinade.  
 
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[Felvtalk] spoke to soon, Whimsy not eating again

[Emeraldkittee]

after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.  Tuna, 
sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.  He is having bursts of 
playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his 
box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.  He is depressed and 
angry.  I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and 
cold - after we made such progress. We live off a busy street - it's everything 
we got away from with him. The other thing is now he knows we live on the other 
side of the door with other kitties.  Everything was fun until this dr apt and 
the outside door to his room froze over.  
 
I am going to get my vet to call in a cypro rx, but how I will pill this guy, I 
have no idea.  
 
this is so heartbreaking, in light of his excellent check up.  
 
argh.
Shannon
 
 


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good news

[Tracey Shrout]

That is wonderful Kerry! I hope you shared the results with the lab people
and the vet...and I wonder what their reaction was...could save lots of
kitties in the future. Thanks for sharing with us!
Tracey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Dear all
> It's been a few years since I last posted. Background: I found this
> amazing,
> wonderful, kind, supportive, and knowledgeable group--it remains my best
> Internet experience--after discovering that 5 members of a feral colony of
> 4
> kittens and 2 adults that I took in in 2003 had tested positive for a
> disease
> called feline leukemia. (1 of the adults, Momcat, was negative. I should
> say, we
> didn't know if she was really the mother--I just gave her the name as she
> was
> the only adult female in the group. I saw no reason to separate her as
> she'd
> already been exposed, plus she was the most stressed/timid of all of them.)
> Re-testing a few months later showed no change--5 pos, 1 neg.
> Within 2 years, 3 of the kittens and the positive adult succumbed to the
> disease, 2 on the same day.
> A few months later I re-tested again. This time, both remaining cats,
> Momcat and
> Mickey, tested negative. Hi-fiving all round! They're now 8 and 7,
> respectively.
> Still resolutely feral, but healthy!
> Fast forward to September this year when I began fostering Sally, a 5-week
> calico that had tested positive on both ELISA and IFA. The rescue group
> said
> they would re-test in 3 months.
> The lab people said: "Why bother? Nothing you do is going to change the
> result."
> One of the vets at the clinic said the same thing: re-testing is pointless.
> The rescue group disregarded the "advice" and earlier this month I took her
> for
> a 2nd round of ELISA and IFA. Result: both negative!
> Just wanted to share--I figure we can always use good news.
> I will also say--and it's very much my decision, based on my personal
> experience
> with healthy adult Momcat (above), who lived alongside 5 positives but
> remained
> neg--this is the 2nd time I've fostered a pos kitten--Daisy remained
> positive
> and found a great forever home where she has a pos boyfriend too--and both
> times
> I've mixed them freely with my healthy, adult cats. As I say, my personal
> decision. I would not say anyone else should do the same thing.
>
> Sending good wishes to all of you who do so much and for all the kitties in
> your
> care.
> love and hugs and happy holidays.
> Kerry M., mom to Flavia, Caramel, Levi, Snoball--all of whom gave me so
> much in
> their all-too-short lives, and are now immortalized thanks to Belinda and
> the
> Candlelight Service--Mickey, Momcat, Katyis, Trixie and Tiger, and foster
> mom to
> Sally.
>
>
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