Re: [gentoo-user] Layman errors. Google ain't helping.

2011-09-03 Thread covici
Dale  wrote:

> I'm working on the install for my friend still.  Since KDE4 wants to
> stay in bed, I thought I would try KDE3 from the overlay.  I read not
> long ago that it is still somewhat kicking.  So I installed layman and
> added the overlay.  I then added this line to make.conf:
> 
> source /var/lib/layman/make.conf
> 
> When I add that, I get errors like this:
> 
> !!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2]
> No such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
> !!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2]
> No such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
> 
> fireball / # eix-update
> Reading Portage settings ..
> failed to source '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
> Building database (/var/cache/eix) ..
> [0] "gentoo" /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata-flat)
> 
> I have googled and followed some Gentoo docs and this error just keeps
> popping up.  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Keep in mind I am doing a 32 bit install on a 64 bit machine.  I am
> following the guide that was linked to earlier.
> 
> Ideas?
I think you have run into the fact that you only put that source line
after you have added your first overlay -- is this the case?

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you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Layman errors. Google ain't helping.

2011-09-03 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:
I'm working on the install for my friend still.  Since KDE4 wants to 
stay in bed, I thought I would try KDE3 from the overlay.  I read not 
long ago that it is still somewhat kicking.  So I installed layman and 
added the overlay.  I then added this line to make.conf:


source /var/lib/layman/make.conf

When I add that, I get errors like this:

!!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2] 
No such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
!!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2] 
No such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'


fireball / # eix-update
Reading Portage settings ..
failed to source '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
Building database (/var/cache/eix) ..
[0] "gentoo" /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata-flat)

I have googled and followed some Gentoo docs and this error just keeps 
popping up.  What am I doing wrong?


Keep in mind I am doing a 32 bit install on a 64 bit machine.  I am 
following the guide that was linked to earlier.


Ideas?

Dale

:-)  :-)



Oh, the file is there.

fireball / # ls -al /var/lib/layman/make.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64 Sep  3 22:49 /var/lib/layman/make.conf
fireball / #

I forgot to post that.  Fire away. I need ideas.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Layman errors. Google ain't helping.

2011-09-03 Thread Dale
I'm working on the install for my friend still.  Since KDE4 wants to 
stay in bed, I thought I would try KDE3 from the overlay.  I read not 
long ago that it is still somewhat kicking.  So I installed layman and 
added the overlay.  I then added this line to make.conf:


source /var/lib/layman/make.conf

When I add that, I get errors like this:

!!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2] No 
such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
!!! Parse error in '/etc/make.conf': source command failed: [Errno 2] No 
such file or directory: '/var/lib/layman/make.config'


fireball / # eix-update
Reading Portage settings ..
failed to source '/var/lib/layman/make.config'
Building database (/var/cache/eix) ..
[0] "gentoo" /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata-flat)

I have googled and followed some Gentoo docs and this error just keeps 
popping up.  What am I doing wrong?


Keep in mind I am doing a 32 bit install on a 64 bit machine.  I am 
following the guide that was linked to earlier.


Ideas?

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 04 September 2011 01:19:51 Alan McKinnon wrote:

> It doesn't support KMail folders directly (Claws doesn't do traditional
> MailDir, it's native format is MH) but you can find import scripts here:
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> 
> There are kmail-specific scripts listed

Good stuff! Thanks Alan.

-- 
Rgds
Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23



Re: [gentoo-user] Help needed:jpeg_resync_to_restart() and zathura pdf reader

2011-09-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/03/2011 05:44 AM, Ignas Anikevicius wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I was wondering if someone could explain me what ebuild provides the
> jpeg_resync_to_restart() function as when I try to run a pdf using a
> zathura-pdf-mupdf plugin, it gives me the following error:
> ---
> error: could not load plugin /usr/lib/zathura/pdf.so
> (/usr/lib/zathura/pdf.so: undefined symbol: jpeg_resync_to_restart)
> ---
> 
> I was told that it might be a problem with the libjpeg-turbo, but I
> have tried both versions (1.1.0 and 1.1.1) and it did not affect
> anything. I was wondering whether there are some compilation options,
> which I am not aware of?
> 
> Alternatively, the problem might lie in my lack of knowledge in
> writing ebuilds. You can find my ebuild on [1], whereas a known
> version of AUR PKGBUILD can be found on [2].  Could someone, ideally
> familiar with both GNU/Linux Distributions, explain me what I am doing
> wrong?

The latest zathura ebuild in portage has,

  RDEPEND=">=x11-libs/cairo-1.8.8
  >=dev-libs/glib-2.22.4:2
  >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.18.6:2
  >=app-text/poppler-0.12.3[cairo]"
  DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
  dev-util/pkgconfig"


How come you only have the following?

  RDEPEND=">=app-text/mupdf-0.8"

  DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
  dev-util/pkgconfig"

And have you tried using libjpeg instead of the -turbo version?



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:52:39 +0100
Peter Humphrey  wrote:

> On Saturday 03 September 2011 01:05:33 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> > I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.
> 
> You've got me intrigued now. I haven't used Claws since an early,
> unstable version, but it looks as though it might suit me now.
> 
> First, though, does it have an easy bulk import mechanism from KMail
> format? I have over 10,000 mails here in about 50 folders, and I
> really wouldn't want to go through that lot one by one.
> 

It doesn't support KMail folders directly (Claws doesn't do traditional
MailDir, it's native format is MH) but you can find import scripts here:

http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads

There are kmail-specific scripts listed

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 September 2011 01:05:33 Neil Bothwick wrote:

> I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.

You've got me intrigued now. I haven't used Claws since an early, unstable 
version, but it looks as though it might suit me now.

First, though, does it have an easy bulk import mechanism from KMail format? 
I have over 10,000 mails here in about 50 folders, and I really wouldn't 
want to go through that lot one by one.

-- 
Rgds
Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23



[gentoo-user] apache-2.2.20 - upstream config files reappear in /etc

2011-09-03 Thread Leho Kraav
So after upgrading against the Range header vulnerability, I find that 
apache-2.2.20 seems to litter /etc/apache2 with standard configuration 
files, while I don't remember anything at least in 2.2.1x range doing that.


leho@server etc $ qlist apache- | grep etc
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-mpm.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-default.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-dav.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-languages.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-info.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-manual.conf
/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-userdir.conf
/etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_ssl_vhost.conf
/etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf
/etc/apache2/vhosts.d/.keep_www-servers_apache-2
/etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
/etc/apache2/magic
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-mpm.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-default.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-dav.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-languages.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-info.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-manual.conf
/etc/apache2/original/extra/httpd-userdir.conf
/etc/apache2/original/httpd.conf
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf
/etc/apache2/mime.types
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_userdir.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_languages.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_status.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_info.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_mime.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/46_mod_ldap.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_error_documents.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_autoindex.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/.keep_www-servers_apache-2
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mpm.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/45_mod_dav.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_mod_log_config.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/00_default_settings.conf
/etc/apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf
/etc/conf.d/apache2
/etc/init.d/apache2
/etc/logrotate.d/apache2

leho@server etc $ sudo git status -s apache2
 M apache2/modules.d/70_mod_wsgi.conf
?? apache2/apache2.conf
?? apache2/extra/
?? apache2/mime.types
?? apache2/modules.d/00_mod_headers.conf
?? apache2/original/

My git log shows I did a Gentoo-config migration about 8 months ago.

commit 48baa69137ad8d84c1678b59a13648092d8f7906
Author: leho 
Date:   Fri Dec 17 23:33:01 2010 +0200

apache2: vimdiff merge gentoo distro configa + apps/*.conf

diff --git a/apache2/httpd.conf b/apache2/httpd.conf
index 85e5126..241a7ba 100644
--- a/apache2/httpd.conf
+++ b/apache2/httpd.conf
@@ -1,69 +1,43 @@
+# This is a modification of the default Apache 2.2 configuration file
+# for Gentoo Linux.
... yadda yadda

Can anyone shed some light (discussion URLs?) onto why apache2.conf, 
extra/ and original/ are installed again? Maybe some eclass thing?


--
Leho Kraav, M.Sc.

http://leho.kraav.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:49:41 +0300
Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

> On 09/03/2011 09:52 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 September 2011 16:27:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >
> >> Which is 100% correct behavior.  Nothing in your system needed
> >> MySQL installed, and qt-sql was merged without the "mysql" USE
> >> flag.
> >
> > Except that it hadn't happened before. The system had been sitting
> > happily humming away, being updated daily, and then suddenly it
> > realised that it had excess packages on its hands. I couldn't see
> > anything to explain why it happened just yesterday, not a week or a
> > fortnight ago.
> 
> The warning was here.  You just missed it :-)  Recently, I did an 
> "emerge -auDN world", and there was a USE flag change.  Namely
> "mysql" was removed from the default enabled flags of qt-sql, marked
> as "-mysql" in a yellow color.
> 
> Yeah, it's easy to miss.  But using Gentoo for quite a while now,
> I've learned to pay attention to the smallest detail in the output of
> emerge before entering "y" ;-)

+1

I took to training my eyes to scan down emerge output (colourized)
looking for anything in green or yellow. Deal with those first, then
look at everything else.

Saved myself a lot of grief that way.

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
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[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/03/2011 09:52 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Saturday 03 September 2011 16:27:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


Which is 100% correct behavior.  Nothing in your system needed MySQL
installed, and qt-sql was merged without the "mysql" USE flag.


Except that it hadn't happened before. The system had been sitting happily
humming away, being updated daily, and then suddenly it realised that it had
excess packages on its hands. I couldn't see anything to explain why it
happened just yesterday, not a week or a fortnight ago.


The warning was here.  You just missed it :-)  Recently, I did an 
"emerge -auDN world", and there was a USE flag change.  Namely "mysql" 
was removed from the default enabled flags of qt-sql, marked as "-mysql" 
in a yellow color.


Yeah, it's easy to miss.  But using Gentoo for quite a while now, I've 
learned to pay attention to the smallest detail in the output of emerge 
before entering "y" ;-)





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:17:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> >> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just
>> >> -C?
>> >
>> > If you unmerge with -C you have to be sure that nothing needs it as a
>> > dependency. Using --depclean helps because it checks that and only
>> > unmerges if nothing needs it as a dependency anymore.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>>
>> Fair enough. Thanks. Presumably the use of --depclean doesn't work
>> until you're clear with emerge -DuN @world?
>>
>> I've used this stuff so long I've not learned many of the newer tricks
>> I think. Good stuff.
>
> I believe the -C output recommends using --depclean instead now.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick

Hi Neil,
   Yeah, I think that's been true for awhile. However I'm fairly
selective about actually using --depclean when I can use -C, but
that's just me personally. In the case of the OP if I wanted to remove
exactly 1 package then personally I'd just use -C followed by emerge
-pvDuN @world or maybe revdep-rebuild -ip. But again, that's me.
--depclean is probably best for removing lots of things, and as I
think is clear from this thread, I didn't even know that --depclean
followed by a package name was even supported.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 September 2011 16:27:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> Which is 100% correct behavior.  Nothing in your system needed MySQL
> installed, and qt-sql was merged without the "mysql" USE flag.

Except that it hadn't happened before. The system had been sitting happily 
humming away, being updated daily, and then suddenly it realised that it had 
excess packages on its hands. I couldn't see anything to explain why it 
happened just yesterday, not a week or a fortnight ago.

-- 
Rgds
Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23



[gentoo-user] /etc/modules, 2.6, and 3.0

2011-09-03 Thread felix
Upgrading /etc/modules, I notice it has 2_6 for all its examples;
should this be changed to 3_0 if running a 3.0 kernel?  I am going to
expand it with both, for the time being, but all the gentoo.org docs
still show 2_6, and it made me think, always a confusing misstep.

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[gentoo-user] Correct way to modify keymaps for X & console

2011-09-03 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I want to modify some of the keymappings of my keyboard.
The last time (some ages ago ;) ) I did this with the help
of xkeycaps, xmodmap and an appropiate .xmodmap file at $HOME.
And time passes by...

Now I have:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf with its Options for the Input Device class
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.con
setxkbmap
and still
xmodmap
and at least a nonsense displaying and confused
xkeycaps
despite the fact that my keyboard creates the characters, which 
I would exspect -- the changes I want to make to some
funtion keys are enhancements and no error corrections.

I am running Linux 3.0.4 vanilla kernel with a recent Gentoo
using a 102 key QWERTZ (german layout) keyboard (no Windows-
key, no media keys no other gismos...only the "alphabet and friends"
;)  (no punt intended!)...

My questions are:
What is the sane method to modify the keymapping and related options?
How can I get xkeycaps back to normal?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards and have a nice weekend!
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.xonf, Input_class keyboard

2011-09-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Sep 2011 04:15:32 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> in my xorg.conf I have set this:
> 
> 
> Section "InputClass"
> Identifier "keyboard-all"
> Driver "evdev"
> # Option "XkbOptions" 
> "ctrl:nocaps,compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" Option "XkbOptions"
> "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,caps:super"
> MatchIsKeyboard "on"
> EndSection

Does:

Option "XkbOptions"  "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

on its own work?

On one box of mine I had to add:

   MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"


Also, check that you have not any old conflicting directives in Section 
"ServerLayout", like e.g. InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/03/2011 04:20 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Saturday 03 September 2011 11:55:06 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


You can trust it because portage *is* the package manager, and the
package manager always knows what the dependencies of packages are.
Tools like equery can do analysis and stuff, but the final decision of
what gets installed and what's needed is up to Portage.  So if you can't
trust the package manager, you're screwed anyway :-)


Well I did trust it yesterday when it decided it ought to remove MySQL. What
the hell, I thought: I can put it back easily enough.

So today when I started KMail it wouldn't. I had not only to remerge MySQL
but to add mysql USE flag to qt-sql in package.use and remerge qt-sql as
well.


Which is 100% correct behavior.  Nothing in your system needed MySQL 
installed, and qt-sql was merged without the "mysql" USE flag.





Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Sep 2011 15:14:27 BRM wrote:
> - Original Message -
> 
> > From: Mick 
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

> > Assuming that you have built in your kernel or loaded the driver module
> > for your NIC and any firmware blobs have also been loaded, please show:
>
> Yes. As I noted, it's worked before. The driver loads it find the firmware,
> etc. Configuration information is below.
>  
> 
> > /etc/conf.d/net
> 
> # This is a network block that connects to any unsecured access point.
> # We give it a low priority so any defined blocks are preferred.
> ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel

I think the above should be either:

  ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
  ctrl_interface_group=wheel

or, 

  DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel

> #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
> ap_scan=1
> fast_reauth=1
> # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
> # scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
> # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
> # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
> 
> # Standard Network:
> config_eth0=( "dhcp" )

The old syntax you use here, which was ( "value" ) is now deprecated.  You 
should replace all such entries by removing the brackets, e.g. the above 
becomes:

config_eth0="dhcp"

This is explained in: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml


> dns_domain_lo="coal"
> # Wireless Network:
> # TBD
> #config_wlan0 ( "wpa_supplicant" )
> #
> 
> # Enable this to use WPA supplicant; however, need to change the
> configuration of the Wireless first. modules=( "!plug" "!iwconfig"
> "wpa_supplicant" )
> #modules=( "!plug" "wpa_supplicant" )
> #modules=("iwconfig")
> #wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext"
> #wpa_timeout_wlan0=15
> 
> #modules=("iwconfig")
> #iwconfig_wlan0="mode managed"
> #wpa_timeout_wlan0=15

You should also add something like:

modules="wpa_supplicant"
wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext"
config_wlan0="dhcp"


> > and 
> > 
> > grep ^[^#] /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> 
> ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel
> ap_scan=1
> fast_reauth=1
> country=US
> 
> # Home Network
> #network={
> #   ssid="MY-NETWORK"
> #   key_mgmt=IEEE8021X
> #   eap=TLS
> #   wep_key0=DEADBEAF0123456789ABCDEF000
> #   priority=1
> #   auth_alg=SHARED
> #}
> #
> #network={
> #   key_mgmt=NONE
> #   priority=-999
> #}
> 
> The network information is commented out as I was trying to get it to work
> with the normal user-space tools (e.g. Network Manager); however, it is no
> longer working in that configuration either. It doesn't seem to ever get
> to doing the SCAN portion of trying to find networks.
> 
> I can see wlan0 in wpa_gui, but I can't get it to scan at all. And I'd much
> rather use Network Manager if I could over wpa_gui; but it doesn't even
> see wlan0 (it happily finds eth0, my wired NIC.)
> 
> Ben

You need to add or uncomment the following to your wpa_supplicant.conf:
=
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=0
}
=

The above will let latch on the first available AP.


Also, you can then add any AP of preference with passphrases and what not:
=
# Home Network
network={
  ssid="MY-NETWORK"
#  key_mgmt=IEEE8021X  <--You don't need these entries here, unless
#  eap=TLS <--you run SSL certs for authentication
  wep_key0=DEADBEAF0123456789ABCDEF000
  priority=1
  auth_alg=OPEN
}
=

and something like this for WPA2:
=
network={
ssid="what-ever"
proto=RSN
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=CCMP
auth_alg=OPEN
group=CCMP
psk"pass_123456789"
priority=5
=

Something like the above should get you online again, but you may need to 
experiment with different settings depending on the encryption used by the 
chosen AP.

When wardriving open the wpa_gui, scan and double-click on your desired AP.  
Then enter the key for it (if it has one) and you should be able to associate.  
At that point dhcpcd will kick in and you'll get an IP address and be able to 
connect to the Internet (as long as the AP is not asking for DNS 
authentication or some such security measure).

Of course if you use networkmanager you do not need to use wpa_gui.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 upgrade

2011-09-03 Thread David Abbott
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, akio.tam...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to upgrade from gnome 2 to gnome 3.
> However I could not find any procedure on google. At least a smooth one.
> I have already add the gnome overlay but still getting version 2.32 as the
> gnome package to be emerged.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Akio
>
This may help;

http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/gnome.git;a=blob;f=README



Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-03 Thread BRM
- Original Message -

> From: Mick 
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...
> 
> On Friday 02 Sep 2011 14:38:56 BRM wrote:
>>  - Original Message -
>> 
>>  > From: Canek Peláez Valdés 
>>  > 
>>  > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, BRM  
> wrote:
>>  >>  I still haven't decided what to get for my system to replace 
> the NIC
>>  > 
>>  > with, but the card I have should be working with my existing 802.11g
>>  > network already; however, it doesn't - I have had to connect my 
> laptop
>>  > via Ethernet cable to my wireless bridge to get network access.
>>  > 
>>  >>  /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 starts, but goes immediately inactive. From 
> what
>>  >>  I
>>  > 
>>  > can find on-line, this seems to have been something common after 
> moving
>>  > to Base Layout 2/OpenRC; however, I couldn't find anything that
>>  > specified what the actual solution was - I think most ended up doing a
>>  > complete reinstall of their wicd/wpa-supplicant software - either way
>>  > details were lacking.  I've successfully had wpa-supplicant 
> working in
>>  > the past, and as a result of all of this I've tried to get it up 
> through
>>  > the other method too (iwconfig?), but no success. (I think I have
>>  > managed to get it to scan some, but not sufficiently and certainly no
>>  > connections.)
>>  > 
>>  > Did you followed the instructions at
>>  > 
>>  > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml
>>  > 
>>  > specifically the network section?
>> 
>>  Yes, I believe so. It's been a while since I made the migration, but 
> the
>>  wireless configuration seems to have broken about the same time.
>> 
>>  The wired configuration works just fine, and the guide mentions nothing
>>  about Wireless changes - e.g. WPA Supplicant - and that's where the
>>  problem is. 
>> 
>>  >>  Anyone see this issue and know what the solution is? I'd like 
> to at
>>  > 
>>  > least get my 802.11g access back - the current setup is a bit of a 
> pain
>>  > and very limiting.
>>  > 
>>  > Since you use a laptop, I will assume you have either KDE, GNOME or
>>  > Xfce. If that's the case, why don't you try NetworkManager or 
> connman,
>>  > and use the GUI thingy to do the work for you? I haven't manually
>>  > configured a wireless network in years, and I have been the last three
>>  > months traveling with my laptop literally all over the world,
>>  > connecting to all kinds of access points.
>>  > NetworkMnager just works, but I also hear great comments about 
> connman.
>> 
>>  I'm using KDE, yes. I've tried the tools but it doesn't seem to 
> ever scan
>>  for a wireless network on its own, and the scans I have been able to force
>>  don't result in a connection - they don't even find the network 
> I'm trying
>>  to attach it to.  Prior to the change, I could get WPA Supplicant to
>>  connect to my wireless, though I did have to have it specifically
>>  configured to do so. It wouldn't typically work using the tools for the
>>  one wireless network, while I could get it to for others (hotels, other
>>  places, etc.).
>> 
>>  I have added another network that is configured a little differently that I
>>  would prefer to connect to (over the old one), but at the moment I'll 
> take
>>  either. (The new 802.11g network uses WPA2; the old one uses WEP+Shared.)
> 
> Assuming that you have built in your kernel or loaded the driver module for 
> your NIC and any firmware blobs have also been loaded, please show:

Yes. As I noted, it's worked before. The driver loads it find the firmware, etc.
Configuration information is below.
 
> /etc/conf.d/net 

# This is a network block that connects to any unsecured access point.
# We give it a low priority so any defined blocks are preferred.
ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel
#ctrl_interface_group=wheel
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).

# Standard Network:
config_eth0=( "dhcp" )

dns_domain_lo="coal"
# Wireless Network:
# TBD
#config_wlan0 ( "wpa_supplicant" )
#

# Enable this to use WPA supplicant; however, need to change the configuration 
of the Wireless first.
modules=( "!plug" "!iwconfig" "wpa_supplicant" )
#modules=( "!plug" "wpa_supplicant" )
#modules=("iwconfig")
#wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext"
#wpa_timeout_wlan0=15

#modules=("iwconfig")
#iwconfig_wlan0="mode managed"
#wpa_timeout_wlan0=15
 
> and  
> 
> grep ^[^#] /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
country=US

# Home Network
#network={
#   ssid="MY-NETWORK"
#   key_mgmt=IEEE8021X
#   eap=TLS
#   wep_key0=DEADBEAF0123456789ABCDEF000
#   priority=1
#   auth_alg=SHARED
#}
#
#

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 upgrade

2011-09-03 Thread akio.tam...@gmail.com
Hi,

I would like to upgrade from gnome 2 to gnome 3.
However I could not find any procedure on google. At least a smooth one.
I have already add the gnome overlay but still getting version 2.32 as the
gnome package to be emerged.

Thank you in advance,
Akio


Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:09:15 +0100
Peter Humphrey  wrote:

> On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:40:52 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:05:33 +0100
> > 
> > Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> 
> > > I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.
> 
> > "The mythical man-month" by Brooks perfectly describes akonadi, they
> > went right ahead and made every mistake in the book, especially all
> > the ones solved in the 70s already,...
> 
> What? Is that old dog still around? I read it about 20 years ago.
 
It might be old but every word in it is still just as true as the day
it was written. Nothing else has come close to doing it like Brooks.

I found my copy in a tiny out of the way junk shop in a place called
Memel (at the arse end of the world), priced at about a cup of coffee.
A treasured find indeed :-)




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 September 2011 11:55:06 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> You can trust it because portage *is* the package manager, and the
> package manager always knows what the dependencies of packages are.
> Tools like equery can do analysis and stuff, but the final decision of
> what gets installed and what's needed is up to Portage.  So if you can't
> trust the package manager, you're screwed anyway :-)

Well I did trust it yesterday when it decided it ought to remove MySQL. What 
the hell, I thought: I can put it back easily enough.

So today when I started KMail it wouldn't. I had not only to remerge MySQL 
but to add mysql USE flag to qt-sql in package.use and remerge qt-sql as 
well.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 02 September 2011 16:34:59 James wrote:
> SO
> 
> It is time to remove
> dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
> 
> But, I do not believe the results of this
> command, as python-2.7x has been installed
> on this system for some time. I have updated
> many times with -D and rebuild @system recently.
> 
> Still many packages are listed as depending specifically
> on dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2.

I assume you have run python-updater?

-- 
Rgds
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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:40:52 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:05:33 +0100
> 
> Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> > I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.

> "The mythical man-month" by Brooks perfectly describes akonadi, they
> went right ahead and made every mistake in the book, especially all the
> ones solved in the 70s already,...

What? Is that old dog still around? I read it about 20 years ago.

-- 
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Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23



Re: [gentoo-user] update world with emul-linux-x86 blocks

2011-09-03 Thread Dan Johansson
-On Saturday 03 September 2011 12.31:01 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 03 Sep 2011 10:17:19 Dan Johansson wrote:
> > Since some time I am getting the following errors while doing update
> > world on my dektop machine (running amd64 stable):
> > -8<--
> > 
> > What would be the correct way to resolve this issue?
> > I am a little bit afraid to start unmerging any of these packages as
> > among other things sys-boot/grub depends on some of them.
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> Have you looked at this thread?
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/246133

OOuuppss!
Missed that one :-(

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[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/02/2011 06:59 PM, James wrote:

James  tampabay.rr.com>  writes:



It is time to remove
dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2


emerge --depclean -pv =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
[...]
CAN I TRUST this syntax to test for packages to remove?


You can trust it because portage *is* the package manager, and the 
package manager always knows what the dependencies of packages are. 
Tools like equery can do analysis and stuff, but the final decision of 
what gets installed and what's needed is up to Portage.  So if you can't 
trust the package manager, you're screwed anyway :-)


However, "emerge -uDN world" must pass cleanly before you depclean 
something.





Re: [gentoo-user] update world with emul-linux-x86 blocks

2011-09-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Sep 2011 10:17:19 Dan Johansson wrote:
> Since some time I am getting the following errors while doing update world
> on my dektop machine (running amd64 stable):
> 
> -8<
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="-development" 34,381 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20110722 [20110129-r1]
> USE="-development" 44,036 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="opengl -development" 2,586 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="-development" 4,714 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="-development" 7,874 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="alsa -development -pulseaudio" 5,966 kB
> [ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs-20110722 [20110129]
> USE="-development" 16,626 kB
> 
> Total: 7 packages (7 upgrades), Size of downloads: 116,180 kB
> 
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
> 
> app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs:0
> 
>   (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129::gentoo, installed) pulled
> in by
> ~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129 required by (app-
> emulation/emul-linux-x86-motif-20110129::gentoo, installed)
> 
>   (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled
> for merge) pulled in by
> ~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722 required by (app-
> emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
> (and 2 more with the same problem)
> 
> app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
> 
>   (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled
> for merge) pulled in by
> ~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722 required by (app-
> emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge) (and 4 more with the same problem)
> 
>   (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129::gentoo, installed)
> pulled in by
> ~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129 required by (app-
> emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129::gentoo, installed)
> -8<
> 
> What would be the correct way to resolve this issue?
> I am a little bit afraid to start unmerging any of these packages as among
> other things sys-boot/grub depends on some of them.
> 
> Regards,

Have you looked at this thread?

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/246133
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:17:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> >> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just
> >> -C?  
> >
> > If you unmerge with -C you have to be sure that nothing needs it as a
> > dependency. Using --depclean helps because it checks that and only
> > unmerges if nothing needs it as a dependency anymore.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Sebastian  
> 
> Fair enough. Thanks. Presumably the use of --depclean doesn't work
> until you're clear with emerge -DuN @world?
> 
> I've used this stuff so long I've not learned many of the newer tricks
> I think. Good stuff.

I believe the -C output recommends using --depclean instead now.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:40:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > Set up a different (SMTP-only if necessary) account for each address
> > and specify the sig. You can set the default account to use for a
> > folder, which means you always use the correct address on a mailing
> > list. If no default account is set, Claws will default to using the
> > account that the mail you are replying to was sent to.  
> 
> I like to use local IMAP folder and route all mail into those,
> organized by work and other. I found that I can set prefs for a top
> folders and all children folders which handled this one nicely.

So do I. In Claws, folders and accounts are entirely separate - you can
have mail from various accounts in the same IMAP folder tree.


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Always be sincere... whether you mean it or not!


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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:56:15 +0100
Mick  wrote:

> > I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.  
> 
> Akonadi and all the bloatware that came with KDE4 has been a major 
> disappointment and cause of annoyance for me.  Thankfully, after some
> initial teething problems with sqlite (I don't use mysql on my
> laptop) akonadi has not given me any trouble - but I am worried about
> what is coming when reading Alan's experience!

To be fair my problems started after migrating a setup that had come
along since early-KDE3 days and went through many pre-release versions
of akonadi. Almost everyone I found with major problems was in the same
boat while people who did fresh installs on SuSE and Fedora were fine.
Observe that clkean new install is not a valid use-case for a gentoo
user

> Have I understood this correctly that Kmail2 will no longer store
> messages in conventional maildir files and it will all be stored in
> database tables?

No, akonadi functions as a giant cache. The backing store for mail is
still mbox, MailDir, IMAP or whatever and used as normal. Akonadi
stores meta data about the mail (maildir index files are not in files
for example, they are in Akonadi). Contacts and calendars are still on
disk with a cached copy in Akonadi. 

Full text searches of mail bodies is stored in Nepomuk.


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com



[gentoo-user] Help needed:jpeg_resync_to_restart() and zathura pdf reader

2011-09-03 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Hello list,

I was wondering if someone could explain me what ebuild provides the
jpeg_resync_to_restart() function as when I try to run a pdf using a
zathura-pdf-mupdf plugin, it gives me the following error:
---
error: could not load plugin /usr/lib/zathura/pdf.so
(/usr/lib/zathura/pdf.so: undefined symbol: jpeg_resync_to_restart)
---

I was told that it might be a problem with the libjpeg-turbo, but I
have tried both versions (1.1.0 and 1.1.1) and it did not affect
anything. I was wondering whether there are some compilation options,
which I am not aware of?

Alternatively, the problem might lie in my lack of knowledge in
writing ebuilds. You can find my ebuild on [1], whereas a known
version of AUR PKGBUILD can be found on [2].  Could someone, ideally
familiar with both GNU/Linux Distributions, explain me what I am doing
wrong?

All best,
Ignas A.

[1] -
https://github.com/gns-ank/gnlay/blob/master/app-text/zathura-pdf-mupdf/zathura-pdf-mupdf-.ebuild
[2] - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/za/zathura-pdf-mupdf-git/PKGBUILD



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:05:33 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:28:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> > At the moment I'm using claws and it seems quite fine. It has it's
> > funnies (mostly just different behaviour from kmail actually) so I
> > need to rewire my brain a bit.
> 
> I *really* like Claws Mail, I never liked KMail. In fact, removing
> KDEPIM is the best way to improve KDE.

:-)
 
> > It wants to wait for me to manually expunge folders, and I haven't
> > quite
> 
> Account Preferences>Advanced>Move deleted mail to trash and expunge
> immediately

When I'd got around to reading the FAQ, I found this very tidbit of
useful info but thanks

> > figured out how to always get it to use the correct .sig (a few
> > times my work .sig got used on mailing lists where I always use
> > gmail), but claws has these two amazing features that make it a
> > killer app for me:
> 
> Set up a different (SMTP-only if necessary) account for each address
> and specify the sig. You can set the default account to use for a
> folder, which means you always use the correct address on a mailing
> list. If no default account is set, Claws will default to using the
> account that the mail you are replying to was sent to.

I like to use local IMAP folder and route all mail into those,
organized by work and other. I found that I can set prefs for a top
folders and all children folders which handled this one nicely.
> 
> > - it actually sends, receives and stores mail (akonadi users will
> >   appreciate how a mailer can get to make that insanely more complex
> >   than it needs to be)
> 
> I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.

"The mythical man-month" by Brooks perfectly describes akonadi, they
went right ahead and made every mistake in the book, especially all the
ones solved in the 70s already,...


-- 
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[gentoo-user] update world with emul-linux-x86 blocks

2011-09-03 Thread Dan Johansson
Since some time I am getting the following errors while doing update world on 
my dektop machine (running amd64 stable):

-8<
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="-development" 34,381 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20110722 [20110129-r1] 
USE="-development" 44,036 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="opengl -development" 2,586 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="-development" 4,714 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="-development" 7,874 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="alsa -development -pulseaudio" 5,966 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs-20110722 [20110129] 
USE="-development" 16,626 kB

Total: 7 packages (7 upgrades), Size of downloads: 116,180 kB

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs:0

  (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129::gentoo, installed) pulled in 
by
~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129 required by (app-
emulation/emul-linux-x86-motif-20110129::gentoo, installed)

  (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge) pulled in by
~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722 required by (app-
emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge)
(and 2 more with the same problem)

app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0

  (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled 
for merge) pulled in by
~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110722 required by (app-
emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110722::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
(and 4 more with the same problem)

  (app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129::gentoo, installed) pulled 
in by
~app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20110129 required by (app-
emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20110129::gentoo, installed)
-8<

What would be the correct way to resolve this issue?
I am a little bit afraid to start unmerging any of these packages as among 
other things sys-boot/grub depends on some of them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:56:15 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > I *really* like Claws Mail, I never liked KMail. In fact, removing
> > KDEPIM is the best way to improve KDE.  
> 
> Interesting!  With me it has been the opposite.  I didn't make a list
> of the things that really bothered me with Claws, but after a dozen use
> cases of me saying "why can't Claws behave like Kmail?" I gave up and
> went back to Kmail

Well, if you want a program that behaves just like KMail, KMail is
probably the best choice...


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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Sep 2011 01:05:33 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:28:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > At the moment I'm using claws and it seems quite fine. It has it's
> > funnies (mostly just different behaviour from kmail actually) so I need
> > to rewire my brain a bit.
> 
> I *really* like Claws Mail, I never liked KMail. In fact, removing KDEPIM
> is the best way to improve KDE.

Interesting!  With me it has been the opposite.  I didn't make a list of the 
things that really bothered me with Claws, but after a dozen use cases of me 
saying "why can't Claws behave like Kmail?" I gave up and went back to Kmail 
...


> I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.

Akonadi and all the bloatware that came with KDE4 has been a major 
disappointment and cause of annoyance for me.  Thankfully, after some initial 
teething problems with sqlite (I don't use mysql on my laptop) akonadi has not 
given me any trouble - but I am worried about what is coming when reading 
Alan's experience!

Have I understood this correctly that Kmail2 will no longer store messages in 
conventional maildir files and it will all be stored in database tables?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-03 Thread Max Kremmel
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

> On 09/03/2011 04:26 AM, Adam Carter wrote:
> >> I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
> >> Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
> >> Location is not important, but preferable in EU.
> > 
> > Amazon EC2 does Gentoo... Big name may help you sell to management.
> > 
> 
> @everyone,
> I already know about a VPS provider, with reliability, and Gentoo
> support. Been with them since 2008. cheapvps.co.uk, if you're
> interested. They have xen, kvm & openvz (us-only).
> 
> For dedicated I know just one for now- hetzner.de, who allows you to
> install your own os (you're provided with a rescue system).
> 
> If you know any more dedicated providers, please reply. I'll compare
> their rates :)
> Definition of cheap is fairly relative :)
> 
> -- 
> Nilesh Govindarajan
> http://nileshgr.com
> 

next to hetzner.de in germany i know ovh.de:
http://www.ovh.de/items/distributionen/gentoo.xml?sort=all

not sure if they meet your 'low rates' limit. they seem to have decent
connection speeds some of which have a 'lossless' tag in their names.
not entirely sure what that means though.

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