Re: [NTG-context] Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

2021-11-11 Thread kauśika via ntg-context
On Friday, November 12, 2021 8:17:24 AM IST kauśika wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to 
> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset 
> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits. 
> 
> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several 
> such 
> macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I 
> could 
> muster.
> 
> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger 
> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
> 
> Please advise.
> 
> Thanks,
> kauśika

I was able to get some working examples using the second answer here:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42456/creating-non-math-mode-substitutes-for-overset-and-underset-not-dependent-on-t

But, I was just curious if there is a more elegant ConTeXt specific way to 
achieve this.

Thanks,
kauśika


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Re: [NTG-context] plain tex, context and latex

2007-08-31 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Yes. \overset and \underset were ported to context some months back. 
If you have a recent install, both should work.

Aditya


On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

 Is there an equivalent of the amstex *\overset* macro? I couldn't find it in
 your articles.

 Liesbeth



 2007/8/27, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

 The reason to write a booklet in Latex instead of in context was that I
 wanted to use some amstex macro's. Is it possible to use amstex in
 context
 as well?

 ConTeXt has the functionality for most of amstex macros. The syntax is
 a bit different from amstex, it is a bit more contextish. See

 http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/context-latex-math.pdf
 and
 http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf

 Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] plain tex, context and latex

2007-08-31 Thread Liesbeth van der Plas
It doesn't work, so I haven't got it. Can I get the source .tex of \overset
and \underset  and use \input instead of reinstalling things? It costed me a
lot of time to get everything work all right, so I am not very eager to risk
spoiling things (I used the ProText cd-rom for Windows).

Liesbeth


2007/8/31, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes. \overset and \underset were ported to context some months back.
 If you have a recent install, both should work.

 Aditya


 On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

  Is there an equivalent of the amstex *\overset* macro? I couldn't find
 it in
  your articles.
 
  Liesbeth
 
 
 
  2007/8/27, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:
 
  The reason to write a booklet in Latex instead of in context was that
 I
  wanted to use some amstex macro's. Is it possible to use amstex in
  context
  as well?
 
  ConTeXt has the functionality for most of amstex macros. The syntax is
  a bit different from amstex, it is a bit more contextish. See
 
  http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/context-latex-math.pdf
  and
  http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf
 
  Aditya
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] plain tex, context and latex

2007-08-31 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

 It doesn't work, so I haven't got it. Can I get the source .tex of \overset
 and \underset  and use \input instead of reinstalling things? It costed me a
 lot of time to get everything work all right, so I am not very eager to risk
 spoiling things (I used the ProText cd-rom for Windows).

Copy the definitions of preparebinrel, overset and underset from

http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/core-mat.tex?search=overset

Aditya



 2007/8/31, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes. \overset and \underset were ported to context some months back.
 If you have a recent install, both should work.

 Aditya


 On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

 Is there an equivalent of the amstex *\overset* macro? I couldn't find
 it in
 your articles.

 Liesbeth



 2007/8/27, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:

 The reason to write a booklet in Latex instead of in context was that
 I
 wanted to use some amstex macro's. Is it possible to use amstex in
 context
 as well?

 ConTeXt has the functionality for most of amstex macros. The syntax is
 a bit different from amstex, it is a bit more contextish. See

 http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/context-latex-math.pdf
 and
 http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf

 Aditya


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[NTG-context] Context alternative for Latex's \overset \underset

2006-08-02 Thread WN
Hi,

In doing my Latex to Context conversion, I stumbled on two Latex math 
commands : \overset and \underset
as in

\mathcal{T} = \overset{\infty}{ \underset{r,s = 0}{\cup} } \: 
\mathcal{T}^{r}_s

The page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math_with_amsl mentions the 
commands stackrel and underset
when using the AMSL module from Giuseppe Bilotta.
I tried to load the AMSL module with \usemodule[amsl] like to test
its workings.

\usemodule[amsl]
\starttext
\startformula
T = { \underset{r,s = 0}{\cup} } \:  T^{r}_{s}
\stopformula
\stoptext

but the log file indicates it cannot find the module amsl ???
Is the AMSL module not part of the standard Context distribution ? I 
thought it was.

I am using ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.24 10:49  fmt: 2006.7.27  int: english  
mes: english.

Kind regards
Wim Neimeijer


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Re: [NTG-context] Context alternative for Latex's \overset \underset

2006-08-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, WN wrote:

 Hi,

 In doing my Latex to Context conversion, I stumbled on two Latex math
 commands : \overset and \underset
 as in

 \mathcal{T} = \overset{\infty}{ \underset{r,s = 0}{\cup} } \:
 \mathcal{T}^{r}_s

Why not simply use

\mathcal{T} = \bigcup_{r,s=0}^{\infty} \mathcal{T}^{r}_s


 The page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math_with_amsl mentions the
 commands stackrel and underset
 when using the AMSL module from Giuseppe Bilotta.

You can either download t-amsl from http://modules.contextgarden.net/

 Is the AMSL module not part of the standard Context distribution ? I
 thought it was.

No it is not part of standard distribution.

I have a question to other users of amsl module (since GB is no longer 
active on this list). Can the module be considered obsolete now that 
most (all??) features are part of Context.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Context alternative for Latex's \overset \underset

2006-08-02 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
 [where is the amsl module]

$ kpsewhere t-amsl
/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/context/maths/t-amsl.tex

and that's the only one ('locate amsl.tex' confirms it).  The
/usr/share context tree is the ancient version that comes with tetex
3.0 (Context 2005.01.31 I think).  My ~/texmf tree has the newer
Context 2006.07.24 and it lacks t-amsl.tex.  Also the cont-tmf.zip
file doesn't contain it.  So it looks like it's not part of the
distribution.

I've attached the old t-amsl.tex in case it works for you.

-Sanjoy

`Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.'
 --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1.

#application/x-tex; name=t-amsl.tex [t-amsl] /tmp/t-amsl.tex
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