[nysbirds-l] Midtown Birding

2012-06-12 Thread Alan Drogin 
Could it be like last winter, Bryant Park is keeping the migrants around as 
much as the tourists?  And so too us birders.  Matthew helped me locate the 
female Wilsons on Monday along the bushes south of the lawn.  That area proved 
to be rewarding, besides the summer resident Ovenbird,  Common Yellow-throats 
and the year-round Catbirds and occasional White-throated Sparrows, I spotted a 
Wood Thrush and Matthew and I saw a Brown Thrasher fly across the lawn.  
Tuesday morning before the rain, I finally caught the first-year "Mourning", 
despite the strong eye-ring, darting and hopping very unlike a Connecticut (and 
making it very difficult to check out the undertail covert).  Matthew caught 
the Wilsons again and I was surprised to still spot a Northern Waterthrush.   
Could this little park keep us birding year-round?

Happy Birding,
Alan Drogin
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[nysbirds-l] Cancellation of evening walk in Central Park with the Linnaean Society of New York

2012-06-12 Thread Angus Wilson 
Unfortunately this evening's guided 'Geology of Central Park' walk with
Sidney Horenstein has had to be cancelled due to the rain. Our apologies
for any inconvenience this may cause. Hopefully the walk can be rescheduled.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 



I noticed the appearance in that post of the left bird's legs, as well. 
I believe it is a photographic artifact, given the light conditions and 
the apparent crop and lightening of the image.


This is the only photo I've posted of the birds, and their legs look 
pretty normal to me. http://www.ardithbondi.com/slideshow55.html#20


Ardith

On 6/12/12 10:28 AM, Angus Wilson wrote:

I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos
that definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of
the most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the
other way around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone
looks more closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested
in Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently
this cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of
the range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people
who've been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be
to obtain evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no
on this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand
bird (female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle
or a genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Angus Wilson 
I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos that
definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of the
most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the other way
around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone looks more
closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested in
Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently this
cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of the
range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people who've
been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be to obtain
evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no on
this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand bird
(female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle or a
genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
New York City/Springs

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[nysbirds-l] Robert Moses SP Seawatch--Shearwaters

2012-06-12 Thread Shaibal Mitra 
During two hours early this morning, I counted the following at Robert Moses 
SP, Suffolk County, LI:

7 Great Shearwater
7 Cory's Shearwater
9 Great/Cory's Shearwater
5 Sooty Shearwater
1 Wilson's Storm-Petrel
16 Common Loon
4 Northern Gannet
1 Parasitic Jaeger
13 Laughing Gull
170 Common Tern--apparently migrating
1 Forster's Tern
4 Roseate Tern

Most of these were seen also by Ken and Sue Fuestel, who may have picked up 
some more birds after I left.

Shai Mitra
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Haber 
Or perhaps they didn't actually see a band (which would also be more likely
than "bands" plural) on the female.

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> Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
> bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
> the female of this pair in the photograph.
>
> Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?
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> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi wrote:
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>> I don't either.
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re:[nysbirds-l] banded kite

2012-06-12 Thread Spsdmd 

having been to sterling forest to photograph the kites on at least 8 different 
days so far (my office is only 15 min. away from the site), my guess is that 
someone mistakenly saw the white leg feathers and orange leg skin color and 
thought there were white/orange bands. these 2 birds are the same birds each 
time i have been there. the female has some fairly distinctive white patches on 
her back. their behavior in terms of where they perch and bring nesting 
material is consistent each day. and having established this area as their 
territory, i am sure they would not tolerate any other raptors around. twice i 
have seen them chase out bald eagles that have drifted into the area. if 
someone has photos of a banded female, then i stand corrected
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 
It would be more conclusive if someone could get good photos of the 
bands on the bird.


Ardith

On 6/12/12 8:58 AM, Nadine Scarpa wrote:

Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male
or the female of this pair in the photograph.
Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi mailto:ard...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi


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looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i
don't
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Nadine Scarpa 
Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw bands
on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
the female of this pair in the photograph.

Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

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> I don't either.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi

On 6/12/12 7:31 AM, Spsdmd wrote:

looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't
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re:[nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Spsdmd 


looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't see any 
bands.
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re:[nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Spsdmd 


looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't see any 
bands.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi

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looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Nadine Scarpa 
Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw bands
on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
the female of this pair in the photograph.

Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi ard...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I don't either.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 
It would be more conclusive if someone could get good photos of the 
bands on the bird.


Ardith

On 6/12/12 8:58 AM, Nadine Scarpa wrote:

Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male
or the female of this pair in the photograph.
Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi ard...@earthlink.net
mailto:ard...@earthlink.net wrote:

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi


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re:[nysbirds-l] banded kite

2012-06-12 Thread Spsdmd 

having been to sterling forest to photograph the kites on at least 8 different 
days so far (my office is only 15 min. away from the site), my guess is that 
someone mistakenly saw the white leg feathers and orange leg skin color and 
thought there were white/orange bands. these 2 birds are the same birds each 
time i have been there. the female has some fairly distinctive white patches on 
her back. their behavior in terms of where they perch and bring nesting 
material is consistent each day. and having established this area as their 
territory, i am sure they would not tolerate any other raptors around. twice i 
have seen them chase out bald eagles that have drifted into the area. if 
someone has photos of a banded female, then i stand corrected
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Scott Haber 
Or perhaps they didn't actually see a band (which would also be more likely
than bands plural) on the female.

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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Nadine Scarpa
nadinescarpaho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
 bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
 the female of this pair in the photograph.

 Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi ard...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I don't either.

 Ardith Bondi


 On 6/12/12 7:31 AM, Spsdmd wrote:

 looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't
 see any bands.
 steve sachs
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[nysbirds-l] Robert Moses SP Seawatch--Shearwaters

2012-06-12 Thread Shaibal Mitra 
During two hours early this morning, I counted the following at Robert Moses 
SP, Suffolk County, LI:

7 Great Shearwater
7 Cory's Shearwater
9 Great/Cory's Shearwater
5 Sooty Shearwater
1 Wilson's Storm-Petrel
16 Common Loon
4 Northern Gannet
1 Parasitic Jaeger
13 Laughing Gull
170 Common Tern--apparently migrating
1 Forster's Tern
4 Roseate Tern

Most of these were seen also by Ken and Sue Fuestel, who may have picked up 
some more birds after I left.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore



Change is in the Air - Smoking in Designated Areas Only in 
effect.http://www.csi.cuny.edu/tobaccofree
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Angus Wilson 
I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos that
definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of the
most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the other way
around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone looks more
closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested in
Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently this
cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of the
range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people who've
been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be to obtain
evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no on
this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand bird
(female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle or a
genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

2012-06-12 Thread Ardith Bondi 



I noticed the appearance in that post of the left bird's legs, as well. 
I believe it is a photographic artifact, given the light conditions and 
the apparent crop and lightening of the image.


This is the only photo I've posted of the birds, and their legs look 
pretty normal to me. http://www.ardithbondi.com/slideshow55.html#20


Ardith

On 6/12/12 10:28 AM, Angus Wilson wrote:

I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos
that definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of
the most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the
other way around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone
looks more closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested
in Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently
this cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of
the range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people
who've been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be
to obtain evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no
on this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand
bird (female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle
or a genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
New York City/Springs
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[nysbirds-l] Cancellation of evening walk in Central Park with the Linnaean Society of New York

2012-06-12 Thread Angus Wilson 
Unfortunately this evening's guided 'Geology of Central Park' walk with
Sidney Horenstein has had to be cancelled due to the rain. Our apologies
for any inconvenience this may cause. Hopefully the walk can be rescheduled.

Angus Wilson
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