Re: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-09 Thread Anderson, Gretchen
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Thanks Lou.  I have wondered if there was a new formulation. 

Barbara

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 Vapona (Dichlorvos) is under a different formulation than it was years ago. 
 Produced now as Nuvan strip made by AMVAC. Also as Hot Shot No Pest Strip. 
 It's not registered in Canada.  It's an organophosphate insecticide, a 
 cholinesterase inhibitor action material. Atropine is the antidote. Different 
 ones are formulated for professional use and some for general public use.  I 
 think it's a big problem in letting the public use it; they really don't read 
 the instructions that well.  I really don't know if I'd include it as a 
 product for your book, unless of course, you are also including other 
 insecticides and pros and cons.
 
 Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E.
 Entomologist, Arachnologist
 Division of Invertebrate Zoology
 American Museum of Natural History
 Central Park West at 79th Street
 New York, New York 10024-5192
 sor...@amnh.org
 212-769-5613 voice
 212-769-5277 fax
 
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 www.nyentsoc.org
 n...@amnh.org
 
 
 
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Re: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-09 Thread Anderson, Gretchen
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Sorry, sent last message before I was done with my thought. 

Barbara. I agree with Lou about not including it on the chapter - or rather how 
to include it. Chemical pesticides have to be registered for use in public 
buildings, both local and federal. At least in the US. Also sole reliance on 
pesticides carries dangers- we stop monitoring and observing.
Gretchen

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 Vapona (Dichlorvos) is under a different formulation than it was years ago. 
 Produced now as Nuvan strip made by AMVAC. Also as Hot Shot No Pest Strip. 
 It's not registered in Canada.  It's an organophosphate insecticide, a 
 cholinesterase inhibitor action material. Atropine is the antidote. Different 
 ones are formulated for professional use and some for general public use.  I 
 think it's a big problem in letting the public use it; they really don't read 
 the instructions that well.  I really don't know if I'd include it as a 
 product for your book, unless of course, you are also including other 
 insecticides and pros and cons.
 
 Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E.
 Entomologist, Arachnologist
 Division of Invertebrate Zoology
 American Museum of Natural History
 Central Park West at 79th Street
 New York, New York 10024-5192
 sor...@amnh.org
 212-769-5613 voice
 212-769-5277 fax
 
 The New York Entomological Society, Inc.
 www.nyentsoc.org
 n...@amnh.org
 
 
 
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RE: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-09 Thread naturalhistory
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Barbara

It would be good to have a short section in your book about health and safety 
in relation to chemicals used in collections. It could refer to variations in 
international standards and online availability of Material Data Safety Sheets 
(http://www.msds.com/) for all compounds which would allow users to make 
themselves aware of what they are using, or encountering in old collections, 
regardless of in which country they are based. The SPNHC volume on Health  
Safety for Museum Professionals is a good point to which your readers could be 
directed.

In Ireland (and much of Europe which follows standards set centrally in 
Brussels by the EU) it is an obligation on suppliers of bulk chemicals to make 
MSDS available to purchasers, this does not extend to packaging of products 
such as Vapona however (which is banned here but can still be found at the back 
of old hardware stores) but if you know the active ingredient you can check the 
MSDS.

Nigel

Mr Nigel T. Monaghan,
Keeper,
Natural History Division,
National Museum of Ireland,
Merrion Street,
Dublin 2,
IRELAND
 
+353-1-6486354 (phone)
+353-1-6486380 (fax)
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Subject: Re: [pestlist] vapona

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Thanks Lou.  I have wondered if there was a new formulation. 

Barbara

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 Produced now as Nuvan strip made by AMVAC. Also as Hot Shot No Pest Strip. 
 It's not registered in Canada.  It's an organophosphate insecticide, a 
 cholinesterase inhibitor action material. Atropine is the antidote. Different 
 ones are formulated for professional use and some for general public use.  I 
 think it's a big problem in letting the public use it; they really don't read 
 the instructions that well.  I really don't know if I'd include it as a 
 product for your book, unless of course, you are also including other 
 insecticides and pros and cons.
 
 Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E.
 Entomologist, Arachnologist
 Division of Invertebrate Zoology
 American Museum of Natural History
 Central Park West at 79th Street
 New York, New York 10024-5192
 sor...@amnh.org
 212-769-5613 voice
 212-769-5277 fax
 
 The New York Entomological Society, Inc.
 www.nyentsoc.org
 n...@amnh.org
 
 
 
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RE: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-08 Thread Louis Sorkin
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Vapona (Dichlorvos) is under a different formulation than it was years ago. 
Produced now as Nuvan strip made by AMVAC. Also as Hot Shot No Pest Strip. It's 
not registered in Canada.  It's an organophosphate insecticide, a 
cholinesterase inhibitor action material. Atropine is the antidote. Different 
ones are formulated for professional use and some for general public use.  I 
think it's a big problem in letting the public use it; they really don't read 
the instructions that well.  I really don't know if I'd include it as a product 
for your book, unless of course, you are also including other insecticides and 
pros and cons.

Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E.
Entomologist, Arachnologist
Division of Invertebrate Zoology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, New York 10024-5192
sor...@amnh.org
212-769-5613 voice
212-769-5277 fax

The New York Entomological Society, Inc.
www.nyentsoc.org
n...@amnh.org



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I am working on the pest control chapter of my next book.

Question:  I have a note to myself from the March meeting about increasing moth 
problems and the usefulness of Vapona. Should I be recommending this?

Barbara Appelbaum


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Re: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-07 Thread Ronald Harvey
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This is not the product you want to use.  It will despot on collection items 
and can appear as crystalline - it is a carcinogen and it also drips onto 
surfaces.  Not to be used!
Ron Harvey
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Re: [pestlist] vapona

2014-06-07 Thread Anderson, Gretchen
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Barbara - 
I agree with all that has been said. A product not to be used. It is also a 
nerve toxin.   Basically bad stuff. Moths, dermestids, other museum pests can 
all be dealt with though basic IPM methods.  Pesticides, if used at all, should 
not be used on or near objects. Crevice treatments maybe, especially in old 
buildings. Good housekeeping, thermal, anoxic are the preferred treatment.

Gretchen

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 and can appear as crystalline - it is a carcinogen and it also drips onto 
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 Ron Harvey
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