Re: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.

2004-03-18 Thread Matt




Ok, I think I did it. Only took a minute (thanks Bill). Here are some
more precise directions, but consider them to be "beta" directions
(please correct them if you find a problem):

1) Install the Windows 2000 Resource Kit, or download
and install the INSTSRV.exe and SRVANY.exe files in a permanent
location, preferably within your path. The individual files can be
found at the following location:
   http://www.pyeung.com/pages/win2k/userdefinedservice.html
  
2) Open a command prompt (Click on the Start Button, Select Run, and
type CMD)
  
3) Enter the following command (customize for the paths of the
executables)
   C:\Progra~1\Resour~1\INSTSRV Sniffer
C:\Progra~1\Resour~1\SRVANY.exe
  
4) Open up the Registry Editor (Click on the Start Button, select Run,
and type REGEDIT)
  
5) Locate the following key:
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Sniffer
  
6) From the Edit menu, select New, select Key, and name the new key
Parameters
  
7) Highlight the Parameters key
  
8) From the Edit menu, select New, select String Value, and name the
new value Application
  
9) From the Edit menu, select Modify, and type in the full path name
and application name, including the drive letter and file extension
(don't use quotes, customize path, executable name and authentication
code)
 Example: C:\IMail\Declude\Sniffer\[yourlicx].exe
[authenticationxx] persistent
  
  [yourlicx] = your license ID
  [authenticationxx] = your authentication string
  
10) Open the Services MMC
  
11) Start the Sniffer service
  
12) Set the Sniffer service to Automatic


Matt



Matt wrote:
I'm
going to give this one a try right now since I have the Resource Kit
installed already. Just one question...do I need to change the
arguments in my Declude config, or will the service definition take
care of the 'persistence'?
  
  
Thanks,
  
  
Matt
  
  
  
  
Bill Boebel wrote:
  
  
  We've been using svrany for years with
several custom applications and it

works great. This utility has been around since the NT4 Resource
Kit...


http://www.pyeung.com/pages/win2k/userdefinedservice.html


Bill



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pete McNeil

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 AM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.



Hello folks,


We've been continuing to test the new persistence enabled sniffer
engine

and some utilities that will allow it to run as a service.


We found a free utility that seems to be very solid, and very simple.


http://www.judoscript.com/goodies/RunExeSvc/runexesvc.html


One of the scripts we used is:


debug=false

cmdline=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed\snfrv2r2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7

persistent

home=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed


(Note: The mismatch between the sniffer2-3 directory and the
snfrv2r2.exe

is not a type-o. We re-branded the 2-3 to use the snfrv2r2 license in
our

example - it was easier that than creating a new license. Note also
that

the cmdline parameter includes the full path to the executable - you
will

need to do this also. We could not get the service to start on our NT
test

bed without including the full path to the .exe)


We've tested this on our XP based Toshiba laptop, and on our NT4 based

IMail test bed. Both seem to setup and work fine. Auto-start works
fine, so

does logging out and logging in.


Once you've set up a persistent sniffer instance as a service, go into
your

services control panel (usually via administrative tools), set the
service

to start automatically, and start it.


A window will appear for the program - do not close the window!
Minimize it.


When you log out sniffer will continue to run in the background. When
you

log in the window will be visible again - it's harmless. If you close
it

though you will have ended the sniffer.exe out from under the service.
This

won't cause you any trouble, but you won't get the benefit of the

persistent server until you stop and start the service again to
relaunch

the program.


Using RunExeSvc, the actual service is the RunExeSvc program. That
program

launches sniffer as a client and stands in as a service stub for your
OS.

You can use this to run all sorts of things... The developer uses it to
run

Java based web servers, for example.


Eventually we will build a win32 service version of Message Sniffer,
but

for now this is the fastest way we can bring you the features you need.


Please give this a try and let us know how it works for you.


If you find a different utility that you like better then please let us

know.


Thanks!

_M



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Re: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.

2004-03-18 Thread Matt
Pete,

Although inconclusive, some screen caps of Task Manager seems to show a 
dramatic reduction in many of the peaks with the service turned on.  
It's hard to tell the exact impact due to the virus scanners not always 
being called, and SKIPIFWEIGHT settings disabling a mountain of custom 
Declude filters which both are processor hogs, but the smaller peaks.  I 
believe the following before and after screen caps are representative of 
the impact (I looked for similar E-mail hit frequencies):

   Before
   http://www.mailpure.com/no_service.gif
   After (with service)
   http://www.mailpure.com/service.gif
The real test will have to wait for rush hour though.

Thanks,

Matt



Pete McNeil wrote:

The service definition takes care of the persistence. Your Declude 
config should not be changed.

_M

At 01:05 AM 3/19/2004, you wrote:

I'm going to give this one a try right now since I have the Resource 
Kit installed already.  Just one question...do I need to change the 
arguments in my Declude config, or will the service definition take 
care of the 'persistence'?

Thanks,

Matt



Bill Boebel wrote:

We've been using svrany for years with several custom applications 
and it
works great.  This utility has been around since the NT4 Resource 
Kit...

 http://www.pyeung.com/pages/win2k/userdefinedservice.html

Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.
Hello folks,

We've been continuing to test the new persistence enabled sniffer 
engine
and some utilities that will allow it to run as a service.

We found a free utility that seems to be very solid, and very simple.

http://www.judoscript.com/goodies/RunExeSvc/runexesvc.html

One of the scripts we used is:

debug=false
cmdline=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed\snfrv2r2.exe xnk05x5vmipeaof7
persistent
home=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed
(Note: The mismatch between the sniffer2-3 directory and the 
snfrv2r2.exe
is not a type-o. We re-branded the 2-3 to use the snfrv2r2 license 
in our
example - it was easier that than creating a new license. Note also 
that
the cmdline parameter includes the full path to the executable - you 
will
need to do this also. We could not get the service to start on our 
NT test
bed without including the full path to the .exe)

We've tested this on our XP based Toshiba laptop, and on our NT4 based
IMail test bed. Both seem to setup and work fine. Auto-start works 
fine, so
does logging out and logging in.

Once you've set up a persistent sniffer instance as a service, go 
into your
services control panel (usually via administrative tools), set the 
service
to start automatically, and start it.

A window will appear for the program - do not close the window! 
Minimize it.

When you log out sniffer will continue to run in the background. 
When you
log in the window will be visible again - it's harmless. If you 
close it
though you will have ended the sniffer.exe out from under the 
service. This
won't cause you any trouble, but you won't get the benefit of the
persistent server until you stop and start the service again to 
relaunch
the program.

Using RunExeSvc, the actual service is the RunExeSvc program. That 
program
launches sniffer as a client and stands in as a service stub for 
your OS.
You can use this to run all sorts of things... The developer uses it 
to run
Java based web servers, for example.

Eventually we will build a win32 service version of Message Sniffer, 
but
for now this is the fastest way we can bring you the features you need.

Please give this a try and let us know how it works for you.

If you find a different utility that you like better then please let us
know.
Thanks!
_M
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