[delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global tag set, for keywords?

2005-10-10 Thread Mark S.
This may turn out to be a dumb question, but is there not a way to
search *within* a resulting
global tag set at del.icio.us, for specific key words? in other words, find all
instances of "Applebees" within the "restaurants+dining" tag, or
something like that?  If not within the app itself, are there not any
3rd-party functionalities that do it?

Mark
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Re: [delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global tag set, for keywords?

2005-10-02 Thread joshua schachter
The global search considers each URL distinct with all the associated  
metadata from all users; not all of the data is displayed.


I used "theoretically" because the specified request had no results.

/tag finds POSTS (not urls) ordered by time.

I'm considering other operators (probably ANY instead of ALL) but  
stuff like NOT can be very very expensive.


Joshua


On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:38 PM, John Tropea wrote:


Joshua,

Eg.1
Is there a difference between the tag intersection:
http://del.icio.us/tag/restaurants+dining
(over 200 hits)

Eg.2
and using the search bar: tag:restaurants tag:dining
http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining
(Under 30 hits)

When you search for 2 tags together (2nd example) what's the  
implied boolean operator?


It can't be AND, this is what the first example shows, and the  
difference in hits is quite great, and it can't be OR as this would  
be an even bigger result

...so what is the 2nd example actually searching?

Also if you look at the tags next to each bookmark in the 2nd  
example, the tags restaurants, dining don't even appear half the  
time...is this an error?


I also added a free-text term with this search: tag:restaurants  
tag:dining table
http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining 
+table


The term "table" only appears in half the bookmarks, what's going on?

I just noticed you used the word "Theoretically" in your response,  
is this something your working on?


So del.icio.us has 2 separate search boxes:

1. search for a tag/s (use + to add tags)
2. search the entire site

Firstly a great feature would be the other operators, such as NOT,  
OR, *(stemming)


Now once you have found your tag, or combination of tags by using  
search for a tag/s (No. 1 above), then it would be good to search  
within your results (using No. 2)...ie. search within in a sub-set  
of del.icio.us.


In the response you gave to Mark, it seemed you were demonstrating  
the 2 step search I mentioned above in the one go using the search  
box "search the entire site".


Johnt


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Subject: Re: [delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global  
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Theoretically:

tag:restaurants tag:dining applebees

http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining
+applebees

Joshua

On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:01 PM, Mark S. wrote:

> Dumb question, but is there not a way to search *within* a resulting
> global tag set, for specific key words? in other words, find all
> instances of "Applebees" within the "restaurants+dining" tag, or
> something like that?
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Fwd: [delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global tag set, for keywords?

2005-10-02 Thread John Tropea
Joshua,
 
Eg.1
Is there a difference between the tag intersection:
http://del.icio.us/tag/restaurants+dining(over 200 hits)
 
Eg.2
and using the search bar: tag:restaurants tag:dining
http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining
(Under 30 hits)
 
When you search for 2 tags together (2nd example) what's the implied boolean operator?
 
It can't be AND, this is what the first example shows, and the difference in hits is quite great, and it can't be OR as this would be an even bigger result
...so what is the 2nd example actually searching?
 
Also if you look at the tags next to each bookmark in the 2nd example, the tags restaurants, dining don't even appear half the time...is this an error?
 
I also added a free-text term with this search: tag:restaurants tag:dining table
http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining+table
 
The term "table" only appears in half the bookmarks, what's going on?
 
I just noticed you used the word "Theoretically" in your response, is this something your working on?
 
So del.icio.us has 2 separate search boxes:
 
1. search for a tag/s (use + to add tags)
2. search the entire site
 
Firstly a great feature would be the other operators, such as NOT, OR, *(stemming)
 
Now once you have found your tag, or combination of tags by using search for a tag/s (No. 1 above), then it would be good to search within your results (using No. 2)...ie. search within in a sub-set of 
del.icio.us.
 
In the response you gave to Mark, it seemed you were demonstrating the 2 step search I mentioned above in the one go using the search box "search the entire site".
 
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discuss@del.icio.usTheoretically:tag:restaurants tag:dining applebeeshttp://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining
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Re: [delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global tag set, for keywords?

2005-10-02 Thread joshua schachter

Theoretically:

tag:restaurants tag:dining applebees

http://del.icio.us/search/all?search=tag%3Arestaurants+tag%3Adining 
+applebees


Joshua

On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:01 PM, Mark S. wrote:


Dumb question, but is there not a way to search *within* a resulting
global tag set, for specific key words? in other words, find all
instances of "Applebees" within the "restaurants+dining" tag, or
something like that?
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[delicious-discuss] search *within* a resulting global tag set, for keywords?

2005-10-02 Thread Mark S.
Dumb question, but is there not a way to search *within* a resulting
global tag set, for specific key words? in other words, find all
instances of "Applebees" within the "restaurants+dining" tag, or
something like that?
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