Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread James Wells
If you ever wondered which end of the ideological spectrum was a humorless lot... Stephen Miller wrote: It's not as funny when you explain it... On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:51 PM, James Wells wrote: That's the trouble with the empirical testing of Laffer effects. Your selected timeframe has an inverse r

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Stephen Miller
It's not as funny when you explain it... On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:51 PM, James Wells wrote: That's the trouble with the empirical testing of Laffer effects. Your selected timeframe has an inverse relationship with the revenue maximizing rate of taxation. The tax policy that maximizes revenue over th

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread James Wells
That's the trouble with the empirical testing of Laffer effects. Your selected timeframe has an inverse relationship with the revenue maximizing rate of taxation. The tax policy that maximizes revenue over the next hour is to confiscate everything. The revenue maximizing tax policy over the next

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Anton Sherwood
Speaking of Communism, is "The Black Book" worth having? I saw several copies yesterday at a secondhand store in San Leandro, marked about $8 if memory serves. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/

Poverty and Happiness

2005-04-21 Thread Xianhang Zhang
All this talk of the Laffer Curve seems to have skirted around one fundamental issue which I think economics has still failed to address to this very day. Namely, that time and time again, studies have shown that once you reach a certain standard of living, "happiness" depends not so much on absolu

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 4/21/05 5:11:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Taking the example of Stalin's war on the peasantry in general and the > Ukraine in particular, we see that massive confiscations of income at > marginal rates well in excess of 100% certainly detered ec

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Stephen Miller
So it worked in the short run, and in the long run they were all dead! On Apr 21, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Bryan Caplan wrote: Yes, but ag collectivization in the USSR DID raise additional government revenue, at least in the short-run. The people starved, production fell, but Stalin got more grain to fe

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Bryan Caplan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking the example of Stalin's war on the peasantry in general and the Ukraine in particular, we see that massive confiscations of income at marginal rates well in excess of 100% certainly detered economic activity, to put it rather mildly. Yes, but ag collectivization in t

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 4/21/05 12:26:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And I have a sneaking suspicion that more equitable distributions of > income lead to less social conflict and rent seeking and lead to higher > growth. I wonder what the Laffer Curve would have to say about the "tax" rates and

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 4/21/05 1:38:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >And I have a sneaking suspicion that more equitable distributions of >income lead to less social conflict and rent seeking and lead to higher >growth. Unlike you I can point to some theoretical and empirical >studies that back my

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 4/21/05 1:37:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   By one measure, there is a big difference,  in per capita GDP taking into account purchasing power parity. From the OECD site, in 1999 the U.S. had a per capita GDP of $33,836. Germany, France, UK, Italy were all between $22,0

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 4/21/05 3:13:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if you have labor supply and demand functions that don't meet these boundary conditions, then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to talk about what happens as you approach these boundary conditions, right?  In other words, if

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Robert A. Book
> >> Ls=S [w(1-t)]^b > > > >Doesn't this allow labor supply to be unbounded? And isn't this a > >problem since, for example, you can't supply more than 24 hours of > >labor per day per person? > > Only if the wage is unbounded too. You might find ways to increase > your work without bound if your

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread William Dickens
> >But there is no reasonable argument (at least none that I've seen) >that >tax increases in any range we've seen in this country don't raise > >revenue. > >Disagree or not, I think my argument about long-term damage to >entrepreneurship and the work ethic is a reasonable one. Sorry. Mistyped. Me

Re: Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Bryan Caplan
>And I have a sneaking suspicion that more equitable distributions of >income lead to less social conflict and rent seeking and lead to higher >growth. Unlike you I can point to some theoretical and empirical >studies that back my suspicion up (though I wouldn't bet my life on it >being true). My

Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Cyril Morong
Jeff Rouse wrote:   "I'd like to add one of the "big questions" that I think about from time to time.   One arguement against welfare programs in the US is that with lower taxes and more incentinve to work and invest, over time, even people in the bottom 20% of the income distribution will eventual

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Jeffrey Rous
I'd like to add one of the "big questions" that I think about from time to time. One arguement against welfare programs in the US is that with lower taxes and more incentinve to work and invest, over time, even people in the bottom 20% of the income distribution will eventually be better off tha

Re: Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread rex
And I have a sneaking suspicion that more equitable distributions of income lead to less social conflict and rent seeking and lead to higher growth. I wonder what the Laffer Curve would have to say about the "tax" rates and "equitable distributions of income" and "lesser or greater social conflict"

Dickens on the Laffer Curve

2005-04-21 Thread Bryan Caplan
I think Bill accidentally sent this to me privately instead of the list. Subject: Re: Laffer Curve From: William Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:31:33 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>I'll bite. I completely agree with Bill in the short-term. Higher >>taxes raise revenue. But