Re: [1st] Installing 6500 Logic board inside 6200

2005-07-10 Thread Robert Gray

At 23:14:18 -0700 on 6/7/05, John Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I assume that the power supply from a 6500 will not fit
a 6200 because of the shape of the casing.


That's what I found too when I tried it.

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Re: [1st] Installing 6500 Logic board inside 6200

2005-06-07 Thread R. A. Cantrell
on 6/7/05 3:44 PM, John Abraham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A PRAM battery should not be any problem I assume it is different than
 the 6200 again what do I look for.
 
 Will the power supply of the 6200 work with the 6500 if it does will it
 limit the use of the 6500 board ?.  If I get my hands on a 6500 power
 supply will it be a straight replacement for the 6200 or will some
 other adjustment's be needed ?.
The p-ram batteries are the same. I don't think the power supply in the 6200
will power everything on the 6500 board (maybe it is the PCI slot, I don't
recall), and I'm pretty sure that the power supply from a 6500 will not fit
into the 6200 case. I *think* the solution for your box/board is a 6360
power supply. I've owned 100s of 6200/6300 machines, a few 6500s, and zero
6360s. According to MacTracker, the 6500 requires EDO ram. I've kinda lost
the point in rodding this form factor up, apart from the fun of the
exercise. Most likely, if you can get hold of a 6360 power supply, you could
get the whole 6360, which would make the old 6200's remains kinda useless
(and swapping out the power supply is, if memory serves, getting down to the
very last dustbunny in the box). I guess the Max deal would be to use a 630
face plate on a 6360 box and power supply with a 6500/300 board and whatever
the max ram that board can see, but I stopped with a 6320 with every
possible slot and jack filled. It is a slow, serviceable computer (OS 8.6,
netted to my LAN via Commslot ethernet card and online via Linksys
router/SpeedStream modem) and a pretty good t.v.
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Re: [1st] Installing 6500 Logic board inside 6200

2005-06-07 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 07/06/2005 13:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

Hi There,

I need some advice and help.

I want to upgrade My old faithfully 6200, so I have obtained a 6500 
Motherboard of ebay at a very good price.

The number on the board is 820-0816c, this seems to make it a 225 Mhz 
variation am I correct ?.

Not sure. The number on the board is not the part number used by Apple
in their service parts database. Look for the Processor and nearby
crystal oscillator. Should give a better guess. There were, I believe,
6 different logic boards for the machine.

It has 1 x Comms, 1 x PCI, 1 x Cache, 2 x RAM slots.  I was supplied 
with 1 x 16 Mb of RAM, I do not think this RAM will work with this 
board.

In order to use it I need to install 2 x 64 Mb of basic RAM or more if 
it will identify more than 128 Mb is this possible would I need RAM 
slot doublers?.  I will also need to install Cache RAM not sure what to 
look for here size or type ?.

128MB is the max, unfortunately. I believe the cache card is 512K.

A PRAM battery should not be any problem I assume it is different than 
the 6200 again what do I look for.

Same battery as the 6200. The square 4.5v thing with the pigtail.

Will the power supply of the 6200 work with the 6500 if it does will it 
limit the use of the 6500 board ?.  If I get my hands on a 6500 power 
supply will it be a straight replacement for the 6200 or will some 
other adjustment's be needed ?.

Hmmm. Not sure. I know the board will slide right in (after swapping over
the backplane) and the machine will boot up, but I seem to recall mention
of possible issues with the power to the PCI interface. Not sure if the
back plane from the 6200 will allow use of PCI cards. You may need one 
from
a 5400 or 5500.

Are there any other problems that any one could think of that I have 
over looked.

Since the 6200 is a NUBUS based thing and the 6500 is PCI based, you
will need a single slot PCI riser in order to use PCI cards. Such a
riser was a part of the 6360. Can't seem to locate the part number just
now.

Thanks

John Abraham UK.

Have fun!

Ken

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