RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-10-02 Thread David Baron
Title: RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs





PROPER setups will only replace DLLs with NEWER versions. The embedded version numbering/date resource fields are checked. A setup should NEVER EVER replace a DLL with an older one. Anyone distributing such a monster should be hung from the thumbs until dead.

Some setups are courteous and ASK whether to substitute the newer version. Might mean a few extra clicks now and then but it will let one protect that all-to-fragile Windows 98.

BTW, I have had too many fatal problems with InstallShield distributions. I have never crashed from WinZip self-installers or Wize setups. This, I hope, with all its implications, is self-explanatory.




Re: [abcusers] Strange abc2ps error

2000-10-02 Thread Phil Taylor

John Chambers wrote:
Frank wrote:
|  Laura Conrad wrote:
|   so saying:
|   abc2ps -maxs 2000
|   should do the trick.
|
|  That did the job. Thanks a lot Laura :*

Huh?  I thought command-line args weren't allowed on macs. ;-)

The system doesn't allow it, but there's nothing to stop individual
programs from asking for parameters that way (except, of course
that users hate it).

There are three stages in porting a unix program to the mac.
The first and crudest way is to compile the code within a drop
shell, which is what I've done with yaps.  To use it, you grab a
bunch of files with the mouse and drag them onto the program's
icon.  When you let go the program runs and writes its output
to the same directory that the input files are in.  There's
no official way to change the input parameters.  (There is a
sneaky way though - if you make a new empty folder named e.g.
"-maxs 2000" (a perfectly legal Mac directory name) and include
that in the drop it will do the trick.

The second way is to compile the program as a console application.
This puts up a text window when it starts into which you can type
parameter lists.  This is the way that abc4mac works.

Finally you can do the thing properly. and write a proper Mac
program with menus and dialog boxes which present all the available
options to the user, letting them select what they want by clicking
on checkboxes, radio buttons and other such GUI stuff.  This is
the way that Thurman Gillespy's MacMidi2abc works, and very nice
it is.  The big advantage of this is that you don't have to
remember all the command line options;  they are already laid
out for you

|  That's right. I just couldn't figure out how to do it. I got almost
|  desperate enought o read the manual ;)

Good thing we could save you from that ultimate embarrassment.

Well exactly.

|   "I don't think Microsoft is evil in itself; I just think that
|   they make really crappy operating systems." - Linus Torvalds
|
|  Are you really, really sure about that ?

Here's a relevant document that I nabbed a copy of a few years ago:
   http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/BillAndSatan.html

Brilliant!

Phil Taylor


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RE: [abcusers] abc2abc error

2000-10-02 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

I blush, you're right off course. Stupid me Still I don't know which
sucker sneaked into my filestystem and changed that meter setting while I
was sleeping ;-)


On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, John Atchley wrote:

 Try changing the M: field to 4/4  ;-)
 
 On Sunday, October 01, 2000 12:23 PM, Atte Andre Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  Hi there
  
  I get funny things like "%Error bar 1 is 1/1 not in 1/4" for every bar
  with this tune, trying to transpose it using abc2abc file.abc -t
  -2  out.abc. Usually It works fine, but not in this case. Does anybody
  have a clue???
  
 snip
  M:1/4
snip 

-- 
Atte André Jensen

"I don't think Microsoft is evil in itself; I just think that 
they make really crappy operating systems." - Linus Torvalds

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Re: [abcusers] Strange abc2ps error

2000-10-02 Thread Frank Nordberg



Phil Taylor wrote:

 
 Finally you can do the thing properly. and write a proper Mac
 program with menus and dialog boxes which present all the available
 options to the user, letting them select what they want by clicking
 on checkboxes, radio buttons and other such GUI stuff.  This is
 the way that Thurman Gillespy's MacMidi2abc works, and very nice
 it is.  The big advantage of this is that you don't have to
 remember all the command line options;  they are already laid
 out for you

Where can I get that MacMidi2abc? The obnly one I knew about was the one
that came with abc4mac, and that isn't nearly as sophisticated as that.


Frank Nordberg

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[abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Frank Nordberg

In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:


I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of Ireland"
(known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc

and as midis at:
http://home.online.no/~frnordbe/oneill-1001-midis

(the midi URL is temporary)

I feel I've got the right to brag a bit here. The project I think is
already one of the biggest single-transcriber ABC projects ever done
(and it'll be twice as big when it's finished) and it also means that I
now have more than 1000 of my own ABC transcriptions on my web site.

The midis should be good examples of the possibilities of BarFly's
ornament macros and stress programming, btw. Nos 51-500 are almost plain
BarFly output. Postprocessing is limited to adding reverb an a copyright
note (and removing some superfluous midi commands)

Frank


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Re: [abcusers] Strange abc2ps error

2000-10-02 Thread Wil Macaulay

Anybody interested in taking over maintenance of abc4mac?
with the best of intentions, I never seem to get to it...

I can make the source available to anyone with CodeWarrior

wil

Frank Nordberg wrote:

 Laura Conrad wrote:
 
  abc2ps -h says:
 
   Alloc options:
   -maxs n   set maximal number of symbols (default 800)
   -maxv n   set maximal number of voices (default 4)
 
  so saying:
 
  abc2ps -maxs 2000
 
  should do the trick.

 That did the job. Thanks a lot Laura :*

 (And a small reminder to all abc4mac users: remember to choose "save
 preferences" after doing changes. Unlike most Mac programs it doesn't do
 that automatically.)

 Atte Andre Jensen wrote:
 
  I'm using Michael's abc2ps and it lets you parse this on as parameters,
  maxs=800 or whatever. Sure that's not the case with your version also???

 That's right. I just couldn't figure out how to do it. I got almost
 desperate enought o read the manual ;)

 
  "I don't think Microsoft is evil in itself; I just think that
  they make really crappy operating systems." - Linus Torvalds

 Are you really, really sure about that ?

 Frank
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RE: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Atchley, John

Wow!  Are you wearing bifocals yet?!

From:  Frank Nordberg 
I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill
project.
The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
Ireland"
(known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc


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RE: [abcusers] abc2abc error

2000-10-02 Thread Atchley, John

It was probably that noteworthy virus, the one that subtley corrupts abc
files...

From:  Atte Andre Jensen 

I blush, you're right off course. Stupid me Still I don't know
which
sucker sneaked into my filestystem and changed that meter setting
while I
was sleeping ;-)


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Re: [abcusers] Strange abc2ps error

2000-10-02 Thread Phil Taylor

Frank wrote:

Where can I get that MacMidi2abc? The obnly one I knew about was the one
that came with abc4mac, and that isn't nearly as sophisticated as that.

I beta tested it back in April, and it was very good then.  I assumed
that he would have released it by now.  I've just mailed him to see
if it's OK to give out his email address.

Phil Taylor



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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Bert Van Vreckem

Frank Nordberg wrote:
 In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:
 
 I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
 The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
 Ireland" (known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
 http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc

Dzjeez, what kind of a job do you have that leaves you with so much free
time? I can't even find the time to transcribe the odd one hundred tunes
I'd like to put on-line...

--
Bert Van Vreckem
Give a man a fire and he is warm for a day
Set a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life
  -- John A. Hrastar.
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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread jc



|  Frank Nordberg wrote:
|   In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:
|  
|   I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
|   The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
|   Ireland" (known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
|   http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc
|
|  Dzjeez, what kind of a job do you have that leaves you with so much free
|  time? I can't even find the time to transcribe the odd one hundred tunes
|  I'd like to put on-line...

Meanwhile,  I  told  my  ABC  bot  about  Henrik's  .../abc/abcusers/
directory  and  about  the  above  URL,  and the number of ABC titles
listed for www.musicaviva.com nearly doubled.  The  reason  that  the
abcusers/  directory hadn't been scanned was that it was too far from
my starting URL.  I've found that it's a good idea to limit the depth
of  Web  searches  to 3 hops, to avoid trying to search the whole Web
for ABC. This isn't very productive; having other people spot new ABC
sites  and  tell  me  about  them  is  far  more  practical.  And the
oneill-1001-1-500.abc doesn't seem to be pointed to by an link, so it
would have never been found.

I've wondered about O'Neill's 1001 myself; it's nice to  see  someone
so masochistic as to take it on. But I wonder about putting it all in
one huge file.  This will lead to a lot of slow downloads for  people
just looking for a tune or three.

So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin?  (How many volumes  of
that were there?)

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[abcusers] Is anything missing?

2000-10-02 Thread jc



Henrik said:
 In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:

I've been a bit quiet, too, in part because of a bit of reprogramming
of my ABC search bot. I thought I'd mention it now because I just ran
a full search, and thought people might like to check  with  my  tune
finder  (http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/findtune.html) and see
if any of your tunes are missing.

The reason for this is something that I'd sorta been wondering  about
since  I  started hearing, a few months ago, about a new breed of web
search program.  The problem was all the "hidden" web pages that  are
not  on  disk as files, but are generated on the fly by programs.  It
seems that the big search sites are developing tools to extract these
"hidden pages" and index them.

When I first heard this, my thought was "Uh, oh ..."  Last  week,  my
fears came true. A couple of search programs learned how to invoke my
tune finder's scripts and the resulting pages  with  their  links  to
scripts that convert ABC to PS, GIF, PNG, MIDI and other formats. One
little monster was systematically asking for every  ABC  tune  in  my
indexes,  in every format that my scripts know how to return.  And it
was asking in parallel from  a  large  set  of  machines.   It  drove
trillian's  load  average  up to 25, filled the disk with temp files,
and brought everything to a halt.

Luckily the folks who run trillian, at MIT's EE Dept, have a bit of a
sense of humor.  I actually spotted the disaster before they did, and
they had email from me waiting  for  them.   I  added  a  "blacklist"
feature  to  my  scripts  that  knows  the  IP addresses of the worst
culprits and won't talk to them.  Meanwhile, I've been put in  charge
of  trillian's robots.txt file, and all the other search bots seem to
have been scared away from my own music stuff for the present.

My tune finder was a zombie for a day or so, but it has recovered. My
own  search program now follows a somewhat more complex strategy:  It
looks for and parses robots.txt files, and mostly obeys  them.   This
has cut its search time in half, actually. But it also compares a URL
with its explicit list of "allows" URLs, i.e., its list  of  starting
URLs,  and searches them even if the machine's global robots.txt file
says not to.  This is necessary so that it  can  search  my  own  ABC
files,  which  are  now  off limits to searchers.  It should find ABC
files if they're below a URL in my starting list, even if the machine
as a robots.txt file.

It did come up with somewhat fewer total tunes  than  before,  though
the  number  isn't  very  different.   The main loss seems to be that
perun.hscs.wmin.ac.uk has gone away, and  its  1077  tunes  are  also
gone. It seems to have gotten flakey some time back, with no response
in most attempts.  Anyone know what happened to it?

Aside from that, there were losses of 1 or 2 ABC files on a number of
other sites, but no single huge losses. You might check to see if any
of your tunes are missing.

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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Richard Robinson

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin?  (How many volumes  of
 that were there?)

24 :)

You know the books have recently been re-published ?

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem


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