Re: [abcusers] mup
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:13:44PM +0100, Neil Jennings wrote: Problem is that the 'independent format' needs to accommodate all functionality required from all formats. To a certain extent; otherwise you end up with a complicated monstrosity that no-one supports all aspects of anyway. I don't think MusicXML fits the bill yet. It doesn't seem to support some of the constructs that I need (unless I have missed something). Well, OK, it only aims to support common Western musical notation from the 17th century onwards but I'm wondering what you're using that it doesn't support? The standard is still under active development, so if you think something's missing, you could lobby to get it added. Dave To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: Tune identification
Frank Nordberg wrote: Great lyrics, btw. Very poetic ;-) Too bad I can't use them. The tune's not really suitable for singing at the tempo we're gonna play it in. Nonsense. We play it at the speed you posted it, and I first became aware of the words one night when Billy Drislane started singing them over the ruckus. Of course the 16th notes in the A section are combined into 8th notes, that is: GBGB GB c/B/A/G/|FAFA FA d/c/B/A/| becomes: GBGB GBdd|FAFA FAdd| when singing the words. __ /\/\/\/\ __ | | | | | David Barnert __ | | | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ | | | | | Albany, NY __ \/\/\/\/ Ventilator Concertina Bellows Bellows (Vocation) (Avocation) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: mup
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Would be nice to start working on a commandline tool that can take many types of music notation formats as input and produces any other of these formats as output. Neil Jennings wrote: Problem is that the 'independent format' needs to accommodate all functionality required from all formats. [snip] Agree that when we have a 'Universal Music format' then this would be the preferred approach. Probably the format closest to being compatible with all other formats is printed sheet music. On paper, to be scanned (or as pdf). The problem with compatibility with abc for this format (and I believe all the others) is support for modes. I don't think any of the other formats know the difference between C major and A minor. __ /\/\/\/\ __ | | | | | David Barnert __ | | | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ | | | | | Albany, NY __ \/\/\/\/ Ventilator Concertina Bellows Bellows (Vocation) (Avocation) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: ABC to HTML viewer
Norman Schmidt wrote: After not finding a plugin for my browser to read abc files directly from the internet, I have taken the viewing engine I wrote for ABassC on the Palm and PockePC and ported it to HTML. The result is at www.normanschmidt.net/abassc.php . You have to copy/paste the ABC text and press a button; but I find it useful when, say your on a machine without BarFly or abcm2ps installed. Nice. Thank you. Note, however, that similar functionality already exists at http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html with the added features of being able to select various formats for return (jpg, midi, pdf, ps). __ /\/\/\/\ __ | | | | | David Barnert __ | | | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ | | | | | Albany, NY __ \/\/\/\/ Ventilator Concertina Bellows Bellows (Vocation) (Avocation) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Re: mup
David == DavBarnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David pdf). The problem with compatibility with abc for this format David (and I believe all the others) is support for modes. I don't think David any of the other formats know the difference between C major and A David minor. Lilypond does. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC to HTML viewer
The problem with concertina.net/tunes.convert.html is that it often gives an error message: No image available -- there's probably a error in the ABC source causing the conversion to fail. I make lots of mistakes and need something much more forgiving... a beginner can just type in ABC and get music output. Enjoy! Norman http://www.normanschmidt.net To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Re: mup
My program HARMONY certainly knows the difference between Modes, Minor and Major, as does the abc format. MIDI does NOT distinguish modes, but the key meta-event is only for documentation anyway, makes no difference to the audio output. - Original Message - From: Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2003 14:20 Subject: Re: [abcusers] Re: mup David == DavBarnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David pdf). The problem with compatibility with abc for this format David (and I believe all the others) is support for modes. I don't think David any of the other formats know the difference between C major and A David minor. Lilypond does. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Multivoice in ABC 2.0
Hi Barry, I agree about putting things in the V: header (or other headers). V: makes sense for type specific things. I disagree about removing the [] in front of the lines for voice change. The reason is that, for instance abcd is a valid voice name in the new standard and is also valid tune body, so the parser has to work a lot harder (slower) to get this to work. Granted we could have found a better delimiter (since [ is also the start of a second ending, but [V: is not). But existing ABC parsers should already be handling this dilemma. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] new iabc released
We're up to version 0.8 now. http://abc.sourceforge.net/iabc See the above link for release notes. Aaron To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html