Re: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Hmm.. Plenty of good ideas, but I have to admit if you find MOM difficult and don't want to spend the time, most of the solutions talked about will have similar issues. I admit MOM interface is terrible for what you sound like you want to do. Then again, can it be simpler (the answer's yes, but that's another discussion.) The benefit of MOM is that it comes out of the box configured with plenty of thresholds already configured from the vendor that made your directory service. If you go looking for another product, ensure that the product you look at does the same. If they don't you'll spend oodles of time configuring and tweaking the product. In fact, I've seen implementations that finish tweaking just in time for the next upgrade cycle ;) -ajm On 1/5/06, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenNMS – Replaced a Nagios box. See the website www.opennms.org -Original Message-From: Freddy HARTONO [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
I certainly have found the AM interface a lot less overwhelming and pleasant to work with as opposed to MOM although MOM 2005 SP1 is a vast improvement. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: 06 January 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hmm.. Plenty of good ideas, but I have to admit if you find MOM difficult and don't want to spend the time, most of the solutions talked about will have similar issues. I admit MOM interface is terrible for what you sound like you want to do. Then again, can it be simpler (the answer's yes, but that's another discussion.) The benefit of MOM is that it comes out of the box configured with plenty of thresholds already configured from the vendor that made your directory service. If you go looking for another product, ensure that the product you look at does the same. If they don't you'll spend oodles of time configuring and tweaking the product. In fact, I've seen implementations that finish tweaking just in time for the next upgrade cycle ;) -ajm On 1/5/06, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenNMS Replaced a Nagios box. See the website www.opennms.org -Original Message- From: Freddy HARTONO [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PM To: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Al makes a good point Enterprise Management is not typically an open-the-box, fire-and-forget solution. In fact I havent seen a single product out there that comes close at least not one that I havent been terribly disappointed with. WUG (Whats Up Gold) used to be pretty close (talking 6 years ago). But once you get the concepts, and figure out what you want to monitor, it gets much easier. If you had all Cisco Catalyst 4000 routers and 7000 routers and HP servers with all the same config, and all running W2K3R2 with the same config (brands are for example), itd be much simpler. But I doubt anyone has a homogenous system, so we get 400 EM products all trying to be all things to all people, because as soon as one of those vendors drops support for something, the support phones start ringing asking for it back. Hmmm. I think thats the story of Windows as well, come to think of it (what do you mean, no 8.3 filename support?! J) Rich --- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 -- I love the smell of red herrings in the morning - anonymous From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:34 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hmm.. Plenty of good ideas, but I have to admit if you find MOM difficult and don't want to spend the time, most of the solutions talked about will have similar issues. I admit MOM interface is terrible for what you sound like you want to do. Then again, can it be simpler (the answer's yes, but that's another discussion.) The benefit of MOM is that it comes out of the box configured with plenty of thresholds already configured from the vendor that made your directory service. If you go looking for another product, ensure that the product you look at does the same. If they don't you'll spend oodles of time configuring and tweaking the product. In fact, I've seen implementations that finish tweaking just in time for the next upgrade cycle ;) -ajm On 1/5/06, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenNMS Replaced a Nagios box. See the website www.opennms.org -Original Message- From: Freddy HARTONO [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PM To: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785 ---APPLEBEE'S INTERNATIONAL, INC. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE--- PRIVILEGED / CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION may be contained in this message or any attachments. This information is strictly confidential and may be subject to attorney-client privilege. This message is intended only for the use of the named addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this in error, you should kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately destroy this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Applebee's International, Inc. reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to and from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Applebee's International, Inc. e-mail system.
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by "monitoring"?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1], Vulnerability
Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ); Intrust
[cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat 23]
(NetPro)
neil
___Neil RustonGlobal Technology
InfrastructureNomura
International plc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 02:55To:
activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi all
Just looking for some advice on server monitoring
tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring
I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a
hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is
much more expensive than others as well.
Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent
have time to play around much)...
Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring
products - preferred agentless..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail:
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools I happen to use Nagios and MRTG on a RHEL4 box for all this. Works like a charm. It was a PITA to set up but it's free and easier to deal with than MOM once I got it all working right.Nagios agent takes like 300kb of memory on the windows box and needs one port too. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Freddy HARTONOSent: Wed 1/4/2006 9:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
Re: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
What elements of these servers would you like to monitor? What aspects of MOM do you find difficult in the GUI? What price-point are you looking to maintain? You can start with Servers Alive and move up from there... http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=Monitoring.TXT -ASB FAST, CHEAP, SECURE: Pick Any TWO http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/ On 1/4/06, Freddy HARTONO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools
Hi Neil
Just standard system availability checks and alerting,
simple sms or email would do.
Monitor things like
1) Availability - ping test (packet
latency) etc, port availability, ldap binding tests (how long it takes to makes
ldap object query)
2) Eventlog - eventlog searches and
triggers (no need for consolidation - such as what Intrust is
doing)
3) Reporting - monthly or management type
of reporting or trending, say disk space utilization over the past few months
trends
4) Performance counters - perfmon
counters to monitor other things such as Exchange queue length
etc
5) Email Round trip test - sends smtp
mails or mapi mails to a destination, opens it with pop3 or mapi and check if
emails receives within x amount of minutes.
Things like that, am using Argent currently (cost a bomb) -
was evaluating SiteScope (quite user friendly) but the pricing model of per
points monitoring may be a disadvantage...
Thank you and have a splendid
day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono
Group Support
Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65)
6330-9785
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:37
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by "monitoring"?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1], Vulnerability
Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ); Intrust
[cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat 23]
(NetPro)
neil
___Neil RustonGlobal Technology
InfrastructureNomura
International plc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 02:55To:
activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi all
Just looking for some advice on server monitoring
tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring
I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a
hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is
much more expensive than others as well.
Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent
have time to play around much)...
Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring
products - preferred agentless..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools
One of the products we use is located on this
website:
http://www.intellipool.se/
It doesn't do the Event Log tracking but it does most of
the rest of things. And is really price effective.
Charlie
From: Freddy HARTONO
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January
05, 2006 7:50 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Hi Neil
Just standard system availability checks and alerting,
simple sms or email would do.
Monitor things like
1) Availability - ping test (packet
latency) etc, port availability, ldap binding tests (how long it takes to makes
ldap object query)
2) Eventlog - eventlog searches and
triggers (no need for consolidation - such as what Intrust is
doing)
3) Reporting - monthly or management type
of reporting or trending, say disk space utilization over the past few months
trends
4) Performance counters - perfmon
counters to monitor other things such as Exchange queue length
etc
5) Email Round trip test - sends smtp
mails or mapi mails to a destination, opens it with pop3 or mapi and check if
emails receives within x amount of minutes.
Things like that, am using Argent currently (cost a bomb) -
was evaluating SiteScope (quite user friendly) but the pricing model of per
points monitoring may be a disadvantage...
Thank you and have a splendid
day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono
Group Support
Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65)
6330-9785
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:37
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by "monitoring"?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1], Vulnerability
Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ); Intrust
[cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat 23]
(NetPro)
neil
___Neil RustonGlobal Technology
InfrastructureNomura
International plc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 02:55To:
activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi all
Just looking for some advice on server monitoring
tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring
I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a
hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is
much more expensive than others as well.
Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent
have time to play around much)...
Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring
products - preferred agentless..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools
Take a look at NetIQ App Manager. One of the better
products in this range.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 15:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi Neil
Just standard system availability checks and alerting,
simple sms or email would do.
Monitor things like
1) Availability - ping test (packet
latency) etc, port availability, ldap binding tests (how long it takes to makes
ldap object query)
2) Eventlog - eventlog searches and
triggers (no need for consolidation - such as what Intrust is
doing)
3) Reporting - monthly or management type
of reporting or trending, say disk space utilization over the past few months
trends
4) Performance counters - perfmon
counters to monitor other things such as Exchange queue length
etc
5) Email Round trip test - sends smtp
mails or mapi mails to a destination, opens it with pop3 or mapi and check if
emails receives within x amount of minutes.
Things like that, am using Argent currently (cost a bomb) -
was evaluating SiteScope (quite user friendly) but the pricing model of per
points monitoring may be a disadvantage...
Thank you and have a splendid
day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono
Group Support
Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65)
6330-9785
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:37
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by "monitoring"?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1], Vulnerability
Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ); Intrust
[cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat 23]
(NetPro)
neil
___Neil RustonGlobal Technology
InfrastructureNomura
International plc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 02:55To:
activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi all
Just looking for some advice on server monitoring
tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring
I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a
hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is
much more expensive than others as well.
Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent
have time to play around much)...
Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring
products - preferred agentless..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools
Freddy,
I would imagine an app such as MOM or Appman could meet
most of these reqs.
As one activeDir poster says tho, you can only choose 2
from the following 3 options: cheap, secure and fast. [I would add "robust" to
that list and offer 2 from 4!]
I would add that 'you get what you pay for' and would
personally always expect to pay a premium for a serious monitoring solution,
since it is of paramount importance to most orgs.
neil
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 13:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi Neil
Just standard system availability checks and alerting,
simple sms or email would do.
Monitor things like
1) Availability - ping test (packet
latency) etc, port availability, ldap binding tests (how long it takes to makes
ldap object query)
2) Eventlog - eventlog searches and
triggers (no need for consolidation - such as what Intrust is
doing)
3) Reporting - monthly or management type
of reporting or trending, say disk space utilization over the past few months
trends
4) Performance counters - perfmon
counters to monitor other things such as Exchange queue length
etc
5) Email Round trip test - sends smtp
mails or mapi mails to a destination, opens it with pop3 or mapi and check if
emails receives within x amount of minutes.
Things like that, am using Argent currently (cost a bomb) -
was evaluating SiteScope (quite user friendly) but the pricing model of per
points monitoring may be a disadvantage...
Thank you and have a splendid
day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono
Group Support
Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65)
6330-9785
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:37
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by "monitoring"?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1], Vulnerability
Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ); Intrust
[cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat 23]
(NetPro)
neil
___Neil RustonGlobal Technology
InfrastructureNomura
International plc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy
HARTONOSent: 05 January 2006 02:55To:
activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi all
Just looking for some advice on server monitoring
tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring
I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a
hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is
much more expensive than others as well.
Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent
have time to play around much)...
Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring
products - preferred agentless..
Thank you and have a splendid day!
Kind Regards,
Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
PLEASE READ: The
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Too true. Try getting some procurement
processes to pay for good monitoring software though!!
From:
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Sent: 05 January 2006 16:01
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT:
DC Server monitoring tools
Freddy,
I would imagine an app such as MOM or
Appman could meet most of these reqs.
As one activeDir poster says tho, you can
only choose 2 from the following 3 options: cheap, secure and fast. [I would
add robust to that list and offer 2 from 4!]
I would add that 'you get what you pay
for' and would personally always expect to pay a premium for a serious
monitoring solution, since it is of paramount importance to most orgs.
neil
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Sent: 05 January 2006 13:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT:
DC Server monitoring tools
Hi Neil
Just standard system availability checks
and alerting, simple sms or email would do.
Monitor things like
1) Availability - ping
test (packet latency) etc, port availability, ldap binding tests (how long it
takes to makes ldap object query)
2) Eventlog - eventlog
searches and triggers (no need for consolidation - such as what Intrust is
doing)
3) Reporting - monthly
or management type of reporting or trending, say disk space utilization over
the past few months trends
4) Performance counters
- perfmon counters to monitor other things such as Exchange queue length etc
5) Email Round trip test
- sends smtp mails or mapi mails to a destination, opens it with pop3 or mapi
and check if emails receives within x amount of minutes.
Things like that, am using Argent
currently (cost a bomb) - was evaluating SiteScope (quite user friendly) but
the pricing model of per points monitoring may be a disadvantage...
Thank
you and have a splendid day!
Kind
Regards,
Freddy
Hartono
Group
Support Engineer
InternationalSOS
Pte Ltd
mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006
4:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT:
DC Server monitoring tools
What do you mean by
monitoring?
I normally split this into several sub
categories:
1. System
2. Security and Vulnerability
3. Audit and Compliance
4. Archival
A few suggestionsbelow:
MOM (MS) [cat1]; App Manager [cat1],
Vulnerability Manager[cat2] and Security Manager [cat2](NetIQ);
Intrust [cat 34] and Reporter [cat3] (Quest); SecurityManager [cat
23] (NetPro)
neil
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Ruston
Global Technology Infrastructure
Nomura International plc
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Sent: 05 January 2006 02:55
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC
Server monitoring tools
Hi
all
Just
looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as
well as exchange monitoring
I'm
currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the
predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive
than others as well.
Tried
installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)...
Any
suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless..
Thank
you and have a splendid day!
Kind
Regards,
Freddy
Hartono
Group
Support Engineer
InternationalSOS
Pte Ltd
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone:
(+65) 6330-9785
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RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools http://www.paessler.com/ipcheck From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONOSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools You will get as many different answers as people that respond to this. Monitoring tends to be a big personal feeling item, especially when you start asking for cheap solutions. Most of the bigger well known names are not inexpensive such as MOM, HP OVO, etc. Something I used for a long time for various things including a majority of the monitoring of the DCs of a very largeAD Deployment I used to do ops forwas called HostMonitor. http://www.ks-soft.com/hostmon.eng/index-price.htm The tool is (or at least was I haven't looked in a while) primarily agentless, in fact agents were an addon if you wanted them. That is one of the things I liked about it. I have personal issues with depending on a server completely monitoring itself. The issues being additional overhead for the agents, the fact that the agents can impact the functioning of the server, and that if the server is bad enough off, the agent can't tell anyone anyway. I much prefer service availability based monitoring, test the services remotely like a client would. I was able to pull most of my custom perl scripts into the engine and let it do the driving of the scripts and the notification for all sorts of things like AD replication, WINS name resolution, etc. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONOSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools DirectoryAnalyzer from NetPro. http://www.netpro.com/products/directoryanalyzer/index.cfm. Paid for by the Sell More NetPro Products Committee. (c) 2006 All Rights Reserved. -gil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:16 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools You will get as many different answers as people that respond to this. Monitoring tends to be a big personal feeling item, especially when you start asking for cheap solutions. Most of the bigger well known names are not inexpensive such as MOM, HP OVO, etc. Something I used for a long time for various things including a majority of the monitoring of the DCs of a very largeAD Deployment I used to do ops forwas called HostMonitor. http://www.ks-soft.com/hostmon.eng/index-price.htm The tool is (or at least was I haven't looked in a while) primarily agentless, in fact agents were an addon if you wanted them. That is one of the things I liked about it. I have personal issues with depending on a server completely monitoring itself. The issues being additional overhead for the agents, the fact that the agents can impact the functioning of the server, and that if the server is bad enough off, the agent can't tell anyone anyway. I much prefer service availability based monitoring, test the services remotely like a client would. I was able to pull most of my custom perl scripts into the engine and let it do the driving of the scripts and the notification for all sorts of things like AD replication, WINS name resolution, etc. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONOSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools And as a special promo to all ActiveDir Org partipants, Gil will match the enterprise site license with lifetime updates pricing offered by KS-SOFT for their hostmonitor product of $799 US. Paid for by theHelp the "Sell More NetPro Products Committee" Sell More Products. (c) 2006 All Rights Reserved. eg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil KirkpatrickSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:37 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools DirectoryAnalyzer from NetPro. http://www.netpro.com/products/directoryanalyzer/index.cfm. Paid for by the Sell More NetPro Products Committee. (c) 2006 All Rights Reserved. -gil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:16 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools You will get as many different answers as people that respond to this. Monitoring tends to be a big personal feeling item, especially when you start asking for cheap solutions. Most of the bigger well known names are not inexpensive such as MOM, HP OVO, etc. Something I used for a long time for various things including a majority of the monitoring of the DCs of a very largeAD Deployment I used to do ops forwas called HostMonitor. http://www.ks-soft.com/hostmon.eng/index-price.htm The tool is (or at least was I haven't looked in a while) primarily agentless, in fact agents were an addon if you wanted them. That is one of the things I liked about it. I have personal issues with depending on a server completely monitoring itself. The issues being additional overhead for the agents, the fact that the agents can impact the functioning of the server, and that if the server is bad enough off, the agent can't tell anyone anyway. I much prefer service availability based monitoring, test the services remotely like a client would. I was able to pull most of my custom perl scripts into the engine and let it do the driving of the scripts and the notification for all sorts of things like AD replication, WINS name resolution, etc. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONOSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:55 PMTo: activedir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
RE: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools
Title: Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools OpenNMS Replaced a Nagios box. See the website www.opennms.org -Original Message- From: Freddy HARTONO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PM To: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC Server monitoring tools Hi all Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well. Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)... Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless.. Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785
