Re: mod_perl marketing
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0800 Ken Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** This message is being resubmitted from the modperl discussion ** mailing list. Someone suggested that we should write an article ** about using Apache as a mail proxy -- anyone know how we can get ** that done? We have been using mod_perl successfully for several months now as a flexible email proxy -- we just wrapped Net::Server::Mail and with a few additional hacks and it worked. Matt Sergeant did the same thing with qpsmtpd and I have heard that the performance results were initially very promising (http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/qmail0411/120/1/1/1.html). More details of our hack (patches etc.) are at http://www.mailchannels.com/opensource and http://search.cpan.org/~mock/Apache-SMTP-0.01/lib/Apache/SMTP.pm. IMHO, using mod_perl as a general application server is a great idea. For us there really was no other viable alternative. We looked at POE, Sendmail's milter API, Net::Server and of course qpsmtpd but the reliability, portability, and scalability of Apache was what caused us to go through the effort of making our bits work on mod_perl. To configure a mail server, it's just a matter of adding a VirtualHost section to the Apache configuration et voila. And as packages such as mod_throttle move over to Apache 2, we will gain the wonderment of a solid resource management tool for mail traffic. Joy! It should be pretty easy to get that article on perl.com. If you just want to write a small success story for http://perl.apache.org we can put that up as well. - Frank Wiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wiles.org - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mod_perl marketing
I wrote an application which might be worth of sharing with you. This is a httpd chat server in mod_perl. One uses a browser to chat, no Java or Flash or download. No refresh tag in HTML META, yet, the chatting messages move up quietly in a continuous flow. Chatters can join or leave rooms as registered user or anonymously; they can chat public or private; moderators can kick bad guys etc. In the private chat mode, it functions basically like an IM. Internally, the browsers pulls the latest messages from the server every 1 second (or 2, configurable), and there is Javascript-to-Perl variable mapping, so the browser can carefully display only the newly added information. It is estimated to be able to serve about 1000 concurrent chatters: 10 rooms with average 100 people in a room. On the backend, there are considerable usages of high topics such as session, memory sharing etc. I feel this is kind of cool :-), well, if you know any one already wrote such an application, let me know. I googled PHP's chat module, Jabber web chat and etc., so far, this mod_perl application looks way better in both speed and capicity. Some of the ideas may extend to other interesting web applications. E.g. to play chess on a web site --- again, no Java nor Flash, just two remote players with IE. Also, the server can serve not only words but also multimedia content, like a remote training. Well, just 2 cents. - We have been using mod_perl successfully for several months now as a flexible email proxy -- we just wrapped Net::Server::Mail and with a few additional hacks and it worked. Matt Sergeant did the same thing with qpsmtpd and I have heard that the performance results were initially very promising (http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/qmail0411/120/1/1/1.html). More details of our hack (patches etc.) are at http://www.mailchannels.com/opensource and http://search.cpan.org/~mock/Apache-SMTP-0.01/lib/Apache/SMTP.pm. IMHO, using mod_perl as a general application server is a great idea. For us there really was no other viable alternative. We looked at POE, Sendmail's milter API, Net::Server and of course qpsmtpd but the reliability, portability, and scalability of Apache was what caused us to go through the effort of making our bits work on mod_perl. To configure a mail server, it's just a matter of adding a VirtualHost section to the Apache configuration et voila. And as packages such as mod_throttle move over to Apache 2, we will gain the wonderment of a solid resource management tool for mail traffic. Joy! TTUL Ken - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mod_perl marketing
I'm knee-deep in a start-up of my own ... starting, building Revolutionary Web-based Games. The project has gotten a fair deal of attention in angel and VC communities in San Francisco and New York, and is currently in an alpha development state. It's not a success story yet, but it will be next year. We're using mp2 for all of our web interfaces. In my view, mp2 finally puts Perl to use for what it's really good at in web apps: NOT markup, but true MVC/MVP development. Perl's terse-ity in writing short, specific, and simple functional handlers (DB access, file manipulation, data conversions, etc.) that return XML or other data structs, processed by a filter with mod_xslt (superfast) or mp2 with XML::LibXSLT is, frankly, a dream. Apache2/mp2 puts the functional separation where, IMO, it belongs (the daemon), rather than where most of us have been trying to do it (in a single handler that does all its own processing, dispatching, throwing $r to and fro). In our system, other applications (Flash) need to access those same simple routines, and do so directly, so there's zero code duplication from the server standpoint. - Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
