[Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
Hi everyone, I ran over a lot of Internet search and could not find any clue to this issue. I am trying to record sound on an old Thinkpad T22 that uses the cs46xx sound driver. Each time you start to record you have a 10% chance of having the recording completely distorted and having a metallic sound. When you look at the waveform it looks as though there are small segments with sharp transitions between them, a little like if these segments were moved a little from their correct place. I've tried many many combination and none gives a solution, including - Native OSS, 3.92, 4.0 - kernel 2.4, 2.6.11, 2.6.26 (rh7.3, fedora 1,2,7,8) - Knoppix live CD - Activate thinkpad=1 for the module - Using native ALSA or OSS emulation. - Changing fragment size - Resetting mixer setting before recording - Changing recording format LE,BE, 8bit, 16bit - Changing recording frequency - Disable ACPI - Change IRQ of the sound-card - Using a low-latency kernel and giving the recording process real-time priority (FIFO_SCHED) None gave an improvement. It works fine on the Win2k system that is installed on the same computer. Does anyone have any clue to what might be going on? Is there any way to do a hard reset to the sound card (without unloading-reloading the modules)? Thank you for the help. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] looking for some advise
Hi Romeo! I don't have neither. But I have an M-Audio Delta 1010LT, which I suppose is RELATIVELY close to the revolution 5.1. If they also use the ICE-chip, then they are nice. I also remember, that we had a lot of traffic about the revolution cards here. Since I didn't notice those mails for a while, I think it's a good one. That all sounds very vague, but still... Did you take a look at the alsa supported cards? If so and if the Revolution pops up there, then I'd say: Have a go at it! My Delta has very nice quality, very reasonable lowlatency and the BIT-depth/samplingrate should meet your requirements perfectly. Btw.: The reasonable lowlatency is mostly due to my system. A better PC than mine (1.8GHz CPU, average Harddisk, DDR-RAM) should really get you 64-128 periods latency with JACK. HTH. Kindest regards Julien Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles) FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: http://ltsb.sourceforge.net the Linux TextBased Studio guide === AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: === http://www.juliencoder.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Missing folder: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p
hascii wrote: the folder /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p is not there any more. What is the output of the following command? gunzip - /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE You might need to enable CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS in your kernel configuration. cf. http://alsa.opensrc.org/Proc_asound_documentation Regards. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] S32_LE format
Hello, I experimented with the following command: $ arecord -vv -M -r 48000 -f S32_LE -t raw -d 60 -D hw /tmp/out which gave the following output: Recording raw data '/tmp/out' : Signed 32 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono Hardware PCM card 0 'HDSPM MADI' device 0 subdevice 0 Its setup is: stream : CAPTURE access : MMAP_NONINTERLEAVED format : S32_LE subformat: STD channels : 1 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 24 buffer_size : 8192 period_size : 4096 period_time : 85333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min: 4096 start_threshold : 1 stop_threshold : 8192 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 1073741824 AFAIU, S32_LE means that each sample is a 32-bit signed quantity stored least-significant byte first, right? e.g. -2 (0xfffe) is stored as fe ff ff ff and 1 is stored as 01 00 00 00 right? The dump of the beginning /tmp/out follows: 00 00 a5 f5 08 00 43 f6 08 00 bc f6 00 00 20 f7 0010 08 00 9a f7 00 00 3e f8 00 00 11 f9 08 00 f2 f9 0020 00 00 a9 fa 08 00 42 fb 08 00 e7 fb 08 00 6b fc 0030 08 00 ae fc 00 00 f6 fc 00 00 75 fd 08 00 f3 fd 0040 00 00 31 fe 08 00 41 fe 00 00 62 fe 00 00 b5 fe 0050 00 00 30 ff 08 00 c2 ff 00 00 47 00 08 00 80 00 0060 00 00 65 00 00 00 47 00 00 00 63 00 08 00 ab 00 0070 00 00 f9 00 08 00 0c 01 08 00 c4 00 00 00 60 00 0080 08 00 1a 00 00 00 c3 ff 00 00 2d ff 08 00 7e fe 0090 00 00 d5 fd 00 00 2f fd 00 00 95 fc 00 00 03 fc 00a0 08 00 66 fb 00 00 d7 fa 08 00 6b fa 08 00 01 fa 00b0 08 00 91 f9 00 00 41 f9 00 00 e9 f8 08 00 4e f8 00c0 00 00 c4 f7 00 00 89 f7 00 00 2a f7 08 00 43 f6 00d0 08 00 f9 f4 00 00 81 f3 08 00 0f f2 08 00 ce f0 00e0 08 00 81 ef 08 00 08 ee 08 00 b2 ec 00 00 7e eb 00f0 08 00 27 ea 00 00 d4 e8 00 00 bd e7 00 00 b6 e6 The first sample is stored as 00 00 a5 f5. Does this represent the value 0xf5a5? For the majority of samples, the first two bytes are 00 00. Is this because the input stream was, in fact, a 16-bit stream? For the rest of the samples, the first two byte are 08 00. Why don't all the samples start with 00 00? Does this sequence 08 00 have a special meaning? -- Regards. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
Each time you start to record you have a 10% chance of having the recording completely distorted and having a metallic sound. I know that sound. And it is quite ugly. On my snd-hda-intel board(nVidia MCP61), I have to increase the number of periods to overcome this sound. default of 2 increased to 3 and all was fine, in jackd -n 3. For arecord you might look at different than default buffer/period sizes. It's basically a latency issue. Other considerations are to give the audio group realtime permissions so things like ethernet traffic doesn't cause clicks and other distortions in the sound. /etc/security/limits.conf HTH, James - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Preferred way to disable dmix
To use your second card, you have to specifify the device somewhere. If you want just the hardware abilities, just use the hw:1 device instead of default:1 or whatever you are using now. Using hw:1:0, I get the error message sample format non available most of the time, I guess the reason is that it is a 24bit sound card and my files are 16bit. So what I want is: No dmix, but automatic conversion to 24 bit. Is there a simple way to do that? plughw:1 should do exactly what you want from it, it seems. Yes, I was not aware of plughw. Thanks for the hint. (your default PCM is defined in $PREFIX/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf) On my system it is /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf. Should I really edit that file? I have some hesitations to touch files in the /usr/-directory No, that was just showing you were things are. If you'd really want to change things you'd redefine the default device in /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ok, thank you. ~Michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] One process per audio channel
Hello Jaroslav, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: John Sigler wrote: I have an RME AES-32 PCI board which provides 4 stereo input channels and 4 stereo output channels. (I'm using the hsdpm driver at this time.) I want to use one process per channel, i.e. process A handles stereo input #1 (on the XLR connector #1), process B handles stereo input #2, etc. The processes are independent, in that process A might be started, and only several hours later, process B is started, then a few hours later process A is killed and restarted. Is it possible to do that with the ALSA library? Yes, look for the dsnoop plugin configuration in alsa-lib. Thanks for the tip. I will investigate. I must say that the ALSA configuration files look like pure voodoo magic to me. I found the following documentation: doc/asoundrc.txt http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dsnoop http://alsa.opensrc.org/AlsaTips Is there any other good documentation? How can alsa-lib open a device node several times when the driver only allows one process to open it? I see references to ipc in alsa.conf. My embedded kernel is compiled with # CONFIG_SYSVIPC is not set Does the dsnoop plugin require kernel support? -- Regards. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] 64 bit Compilation/Installation problem
Hi: I seem to have a problem with Alsa 1.0.16 when compiling. My system is: an Open SUSE 10.2 running on a Intel DP965LT mobo, with an Intel Core2 Duo E6420 processor. 2 G Ram. Intel HDA sound card, which has given me lot of problems. OpenSUSE 10.2 comes with Alsa 10.0.14a, which does not seem to properly support the Intel HDA chipset. So, I wanted to upgrade to Alsa 1.0.16. I downloaded all available packages from the Alsa site, built and installed the driver (using --with-suse=yes), ran alsaconf and rebooted. So far so good. I built the library, and installed that. I try to build the utils, but it fails with the error no TLV support in alsa-lib. I check the date on /usr/lib64/libasound.so.2.0.0, only to find it was NOT updated with the libray installation, yet the version in /usr/lib was updated. Temporarily symlinking libasound.2.0.0 in /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib allows the compilation of alsa-utils to proceed and complete without error. BUT, all other applications that use /usr/lib64/libasound now complain about wrong ELF type, ELFLIB64, HuH??? Not being a real programmer (Hardware engineer, retired), this says to me that: a) Perhaps the installation of alsa-lib is placing the library in the wrong directory on 64 bit systems. b) If the ELF type in the /usr/lib64 directory IS 64 bit, why is that causing a complaint? At that point, my head aches and I need some help and guidance, please. -- Roger PryorEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vancouver, Canada - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] 64 bit Compilation/Installation problem
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:29:11 -0700 Roger Pryor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I seem to have a problem with Alsa 1.0.16 when compiling. My system is: an Open SUSE 10.2 running on a Intel DP965LT mobo, with an Intel Core2 Duo E6420 processor. 2 G Ram. Intel HDA sound card, which has given me lot of problems. OpenSUSE 10.2 comes with Alsa 10.0.14a, which does not seem to properly support the Intel HDA chipset. So, I wanted to upgrade to Alsa 1.0.16. I downloaded all available packages from the Alsa site, built and installed the driver (using --with-suse=yes), ran alsaconf and rebooted. So far so good. I built the library, and installed that. I try to build the utils, but it fails with the error no TLV support in alsa-lib. I check the date on /usr/lib64/libasound.so.2.0.0, only to find it was NOT updated with the libray installation, yet the version in /usr/lib was updated. Temporarily symlinking libasound.2.0.0 in /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib allows the compilation of alsa-utils to proceed and complete without error The symlinking is senseless in this case - /usr/lib64 is meant to be populated by 64 bit .so files while /usr/lib by 32 bit ones. Applications complain because they encounter wrong (64 - 32) files. The rest will hopefully be addressed by ALSA developers. Regards, Sergei. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
Hi James, thank you for the reply. Each time you start to record you have a 10% chance of having the recording completely distorted and having a metallic sound. I know that sound. And it is quite ugly. On my snd-hda-intel board(nVidia MCP61), I have to increase the number of periods to overcome this sound. default of 2 increased to 3 and all was fine, in jackd -n 3. For arecord you might look at different than default buffer/period sizes. It's basically a latency issue. Other considerations are to give the audio group realtime permissions so things like ethernet traffic doesn't cause clicks and other distortions in the sound. /etc/security/limits.conf Sadly, I've already tried all of these to no avail. The only thing I can't do is to have the soundcard have it's own IRQ - I allways get yenta together with it. Someone knows how to disable it or change it's IRQ? Ciao - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] One process per audio channel
John Sigler wrote: Jaroslav Kysela wrote: John Sigler wrote: I have an RME AES-32 PCI board which provides 4 stereo input channels and 4 stereo output channels. (I'm using the hsdpm driver at this time.) I want to use one process per channel, i.e. process A handles stereo input #1 (on the XLR connector #1), process B handles stereo input #2, etc. The processes are independent, in that process A might be started, and only several hours later, process B is started, then a few hours later process A is killed and restarted. Is it possible to do that with the ALSA library? Yes, look for the dsnoop plugin configuration in alsa-lib. I see references to ipc in alsa.conf. My embedded kernel is compiled with # CONFIG_SYSVIPC is not set Does the dsnoop plug-in require kernel support? # ./arecord -D dsnoop -vv -M -r 48000 -f S32_LE -t raw -d 60 /tmp/out ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1605:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) The field ipc_gid must be a valid group (create group audio) arecord: main:564: audio open error: Invalid argument OK. I need to create the 'audio' group. # ./arecord -D dsnoop -vv -M -r 48000 -f S32_LE -t raw -d 60 /tmp/out ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:540:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to create IPC semaphore arecord: main:564: audio open error: Function not implemented No cookie... I suppose I have to recompile a kernel? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
Sadly, I've already tried all of these to no avail. What recording application are you using? I've had issues where audacity would give me that metalic sound and ardour+jackd would not. And vice versa. Depending on versions and whatnot. Beyond that I really can't offer any more insight without additional info. Like alsa version, kernel version, contents of /proc/asound/cards, .asoundrc, and whatever else might apply. Aside from upgrading to the latest kernel and latest version of alsa. It might be a known and already fixed issue. For audacity, most times I end up compiling it from source with the --with-portaudio=v19 parameter to work around various issues. Although it looks like debian caught on and now supplies a version with that option. HTH - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] One process per audio channel
On Tuesday 11 March 2008 06:33, John Sigler wrote: I must say that the ALSA configuration files look like pure voodoo magic to me. Me too. I really wish someone would write Ultimate ALSA Configuration for the Complete Idiot. It would be a book I would purchase. -- Darrell Bellerive - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] One process per audio channel
I'll sign in on that! Helge F. On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Darrell Bellerive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008 06:33, John Sigler wrote: I must say that the ALSA configuration files look like pure voodoo magic to me. Me too. I really wish someone would write Ultimate ALSA Configuration for the Complete Idiot. It would be a book I would purchase. -- Darrell Bellerive - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] asound.conf
Hi, I started to play with ALSA 2 days ago and Im trying to figure out how ALSA works and how to add PCM devices in the configuration file. I wrote a simple plugin for my microphone which is supposed to convert the data into a 32 bps format. Here is how it looks like : pcm.jcb-in-1 { type hw card 0 device 2 } ctl.jcb-in-1 { type hw card 0 } pcm.MicPlug { type plug slave { pcm jcb-in-1 format S32_LE } } So now if Im opening the PCM device named MicPlug and start reading on it, Im expecting (which may totally be wrong) that the data I read will be in a 32bps format, which is never happening. In fact, the data I read is exactly in the format that I set using snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format. Is the conversion supposed to happen or am I expecting something that is totally wrong? Also is there any good documentation about how the asound.conf file works? I found some stuff on the web but it rather sucks. Thank you! CONFIDENTIALITY CAUTION This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. DOCUMENT CONFIDENTIEL Le présent courriel et tout fichier joint à celui-ci peuvent contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou privilégiés. Si cet envoi ne s'adresse pas à vous ou si vous l'avez reçu par erreur, vous devez l'effacer. Vous ne pouvez conserver, distribuer, communiquer ou utiliser les renseignements qu'il contient. Nous vous prions de nous signaler l'erreur par courriel. Merci de votre collaboration. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
On 11-03-08 08:24, Gadi Oron wrote: I am trying to record sound on an old Thinkpad T22 that uses the cs46xx sound driver. Each time you start to record you have a 10% chance of having the recording completely distorted and having a metallic sound. When you look at the waveform it looks as though there are small segments with sharp transitions between them, a little like if these segments were moved a little from their correct place. No insights, but I confirm the bug with a TerraTec DMX XFire 1024 (CS4624). Rene. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] recording from /dev/dsp
record -D copy -f cd -t wav outfile.wav This does not seem to capture any of the sounds from /dev/dsp. ecasound -i:/dev/dsp -o outfile.wav Nor does this. It's been a while since I've done this, what am I missing? Or is there something about usb-audio the prevents this from working? Or some ./configure option I missed at compile time? I know I've recorded what was coming out the speakers directly from the /dev/ device before. I just can't remember how. I'm trying to capture some streaming audio. .asoundrc below - pcm.atiixp { type hw card 2 } ctl.atiixp { type hw card 2 } pcm.atiixp_modem { type hw card 3 } ctl.atiixp_modem { type hw card 3 } pcm.usb_audio2 { type hw card 0 } ctl.usb_audio2 { type hw card 0 } pcm.usb_audio3 { type hw card 1 } ctl.usb_audio3 { type hw card 1 } defaults.pcm.card 0 pcm.copy { type plug slave { pcm hw } route_policy copy } - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] recording from /dev/dsp
Whether this works will depend on your hardware. Some devices support capturing the audio output, some don't. Well, I swapped it around so that the onboard sound was card 0 and it works that way. But the quality of what gets recorded is bad, actually hideous is more appropriate. From studio quality to sounding like there's a waterfall in close proximity. After normalizing to bring it to audible levels. Not quite what I want. Perhaps there's some other way to get flash audio extracted that isn't as hideous. arecord -D hw:0,0 -t wav -f dat tempfile.wav Works but hideous. As I notice a button for downloading an .mp3 of the clip in the flash. Which doesn't seem to work in linux. As thoughts of booting vista makes my skin crawl... http://www.studioauditions.com/jamroomsessions_home.php - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Metallic recording in cs46xx on Thinkpad T22
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gadi Oron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly, I've already tried all of these to no avail. The only thing I can't do is to have the soundcard have it's own IRQ - I allways get yenta together with it. Someone knows how to disable it or change it's IRQ? Maybe you should prioritize your sound card in the PCI bus if your motherboard is not PCIe by tweaking the PCI latency, I have very good results with that: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundLatency.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user