Re: [Alsa-user] found bug, fixed bug, cannot tell anyone

2008-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-08-08 22:36, Wesley Johnson wrote:

 How do you notify ALSA dev team about a bug that has been in 1.0.16
 and 1.0.17.  ???

Here will do, although the alsa-devel mailing list would've been better 
still. Added to CC.

 Bugtracker will not let me login, nor email an account confirmation. 
 Getting an ALSA home page account seems to have no purpose at all, it
 does not let you do anything.

The homepage is a wiki so it surely does.

 BUG:
 When you try to compile driver for ens1371 by itself the compile will fail.
 The driver for ens1371 has an include of the file for ens1370, but the
 makefule does not have this dependency
 so the ens1370 file is missing.  The dev team is probably always compiling
 for all.
 
 Diff file that fixes this problem follows.
 
 *** pci/Makefile.orig Mon Jul 14 02:53:57 2008
 --- pci/Makefile Thu Jul 17 21:25:42 2008
 ***
 *** 27,34 
 --- 27,35 
   atiixp_modem.c: atiixp_modem.patch
 $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp_modem.c
   bt87x.c: bt87x.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/bt87x.c
   cmipci.c: cmipci.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/cmipci.c
   ens1370.c: ens1370.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/ens1370.c
 + ens1371.c: ens1370.c

I expect this should be a straight copy of the ens1370.c line but never 
use the standalone alsa-driver package. Now that we're on alsa-devel, 
people who do will reply though.

   fm801.c: fm801.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/fm801.c
   intel8x0.c: intel8x0.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/intel8x0.c
   maestro3.c: maestro3.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/maestro3.c
   via82xx.c: via82xx.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/via82xx.c
 
 
 I have been trying for since July 17 to try to send this to ALSA dev team,
 and have been blocked at every attempt
 It is now Aug 13.  If someone knows how to do this, please post a reply.

Well, not to unduly annoy you, and thank you very much for the report 
and the persistence, but basically all Linux development happens on 
mailinglists and the mailinglist information is right there on the 
homepage so, well...

The alsa-devel mailinglist is moderated for non-subscribers; if you did 
email alsa-devel before and just weren't let through the moderation 
queue then please say so because in that case we definitely have a 
problem to fix.

Rene.


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Re: [Alsa-user] [alsa-devel] found bug, fixed bug, cannot tell anyone

2008-08-15 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:19:59 +0200,
Rene Herman wrote:
 
 On 14-08-08 22:36, Wesley Johnson wrote:
 
  BUG:
  When you try to compile driver for ens1371 by itself the compile will fail.
  The driver for ens1371 has an include of the file for ens1370, but the
  makefule does not have this dependency
  so the ens1370 file is missing.  The dev team is probably always compiling
  for all.
  
  Diff file that fixes this problem follows.
  
  *** pci/Makefile.orig Mon Jul 14 02:53:57 2008
  --- pci/Makefile Thu Jul 17 21:25:42 2008
  ***
  *** 27,34 
  --- 27,35 
atiixp_modem.c: atiixp_modem.patch
  $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp_modem.c
bt87x.c: bt87x.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/bt87x.c
cmipci.c: cmipci.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/cmipci.c
ens1370.c: ens1370.patch $(SND_TOPDIR)/alsa-kernel/pci/ens1370.c
  + ens1371.c: ens1370.c
 
 I expect this should be a straight copy of the ens1370.c line but never 
 use the standalone alsa-driver package. Now that we're on alsa-devel, 
 people who do will reply though.

The fix looks correct to me.  ens1371.c includes ens1370 with an
additional define.  So, it actually depends on it.


Takashi

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Re: [Alsa-user] found bug, fixed bug, cannot tell anyone

2008-08-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-08-08 09:19, Rene Herman wrote:

 On 14-08-08 22:36, Wesley Johnson wrote:
 
 How do you notify ALSA dev team about a bug that has been in 1.0.16
 and 1.0.17.  ???
 
 Here will do, although the alsa-devel mailing list would've been better 
 still. Added to CC.
 
 Bugtracker will not let me login, nor email an account confirmation.

Ah, This mail to you just now triggered:

===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
 host mx1.usfamily.net [64.131.63.3]: 550 
http://mail.usfamily.net/cgi-bin/deliver?[rh: edited out number]
Click link to validate your email address and deliver your email
===

Even I as a human am not going to click that more than this once, just 
in case you really need me to to inform you of this, and definitely 
software such as a bugtracker or a mailing list manager isn't going to 
do so.

Rene.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Which 96kHz card ?

2008-08-15 Thread James Shatto
 I started to experimenting with Software Defined Radio so I need some higher 
 quality sound card. I could buy Creative SB Audigy SE which has 24bit stereo 
 sampling @96kHz but it is not yet supported.
 
 Can somebody here recommend me some other 24b/96kHz card which is supported 
 by ALSA and has at least good SNR ?

My M-Audio Delta 44 is supported(ice1712) and fairly nice.  4 ins and 4 outs.  
Unfortunately all TRS connections.  I've spent as much on cables, adapters, 
microphone/headphone preamps, and other things, as I did for the card.  
Certainly higher end than most of your typical SB cards.  But relative to more 
studio grade cards, a little lacking.  The sound to noise ratio is good.  My 
laptop hooked up to my stereo system has noticeable static, very noticeable.  
The Delta to the stereo only has a little noise, if you crank it and put your 
ear in contact with the speaker grill.

I'm drooling a little over an Echo Layla 3G, but I have no idea of it's 
alsa/linux support level.  In the meantime my mobility and battery life needs 
has me using a Korg MR-1000.  A stand alone stereo recorder that doubles as a 
usb-storage device.  Super Duper nice, and the converters on it(DSD), shows 
that the Delta isn't top of the line, but still very good.  Unfortunately 
there's no known way to deal with DSD files in Linux.  At least not known to 
me.  Not that I've tried running audiogate in wine yet.

HTH
- James

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Re: [Alsa-user] issue with hda_intel on azalia onboard

2008-08-15 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 15 August 2008 00:02, Drake Mobius wrote:
 error running install command for module snd_hda_intel
 then later..
 ./alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1155: hda-intel: no codecs initialized

 No sign of recognition of hardware or anything.

 My BIOS is v. similar to your own, I have the following two under
 chipset/southbridge:
 AZALIA Audio: [Internal, External, Internal+External, Disabled]
 (Internal codec is included in chipset is is for HDMI Audio function



 External codec is an onboard codec ex. ALC883 . . . )

 Front Panel Select: [HD Audio, AC97]

 I have it set to Internal and HD Audio currently. I will try a distro
 kernel in a few minutes.

I may be wrong here, but I believe HDMI uses snd-hda-intel too, which may 
explain why snd-hda-intel is loaded, but no soundcards detected, etc.

I would try the external setting in your BIOS, as ALC883 is the codec you 
need.

I have recently seen another thread where the soundcard was an hda-intel one, 
and an HDMI hda-intel component was also involved, and in that case 2 
instances of snd-hda-intel were apparently being loaded somehow, 
and /proc/asound/cards was showing them as card0, and card1.

I found the pci ids for the vendor ok, but could find an exact match for the 
product ids.

My suggestion above may be worth a try, and post the output of the following 
after trying it please.

cat /proc/asound/cards
ldmod | grep snd

All the best.

Nigel.

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[Alsa-user] clanging sound when recording from line-in

2008-08-15 Thread warnhold
Hi,

I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to ask but I don't know a
better one: When recording from line input with audacity I get a totally
clanging result. Even at quiet places in the music I  hear a low noise,
when magnifying I see a sawtooth-form wave of about 4000 Hz.

During the recording, when i directly hear the music, it seems to be ok.
When I do the recording at the same conditions using arecord from the
command line the result is ok too. This way is not very convenient because
one can judge the right pitch only afterwards.

I use Debian. With version 3 recording with Audacity was ok, using the
same hardware at Debian 4.0r3 and 4.0r4 gives this evil result. It's the
same when I use ReZound and another program I tried too.

Where might the reason be?

Thanks in advance

Werner
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Re: [Alsa-user] MiaMIDI alsa in Ubuntu 8.04.1

2008-08-15 Thread stan
Henry W. Peters wrote:
 Hi Stan,
 
 Thanks for reply.
 
 Yes, I have gone to the Echo Audio web site  support before I came to 
 this discussion list. I asked them (then) about drivers for Linux... 
 they pointed me to the alsa users wiki.  No, I didn't ask about 
 firmware...  now, I think I should do this, however, I visited their 
 web site again today,  saw no firmware, at all... I also confirmed I 
 had the latest drivers for Win XP.
USB is a standard interface for sound.  If the vendor wants to do 
more, they usually have firmware to customize the interface.  Your 
card sounds like it is the standard USB interface with no 
enhancements.  Were there special drivers for windows?  That is 
usually an indication that there is firmware.  I didn't notice, was 
the snd-usb driver installed on your system?

The latest incarnation of ALSA has a special bucket for firmware.  You 
could go here (top of page) and get the firmware and install it. 
Maybe it would help.
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download#.28Unofficial.29_Daily_Snapshot_Tarballs
 
 What is also occurring to me is that since there are drivers for this 
 card written for Linux (I have them installed), there may be someone out 
 there who wrote them,  might just know about some problems/solutions 
 (?).
The writer of the drivers will probably be on the alsa-devel list. 
Mark Brown, who you were corresponding with earlier, is a developer.
However, the generic USB driver is just that, generic.  The developer 
might not know anything about your card.
 
 So, where you may be able to help here, is pointing toward some possible 
 direction to finding the author/s of said?
I suppose you could look at the source code.  The kernel is very 
strict these days about documentation and attribution.
 
 I know I am assuming some amount more, of experience on this list than 
 me... (I'm a real short timer here, you may have noticed).
Most are.  Once their problem is solved, they're gone.  ;-)  There is 
probably someone with experience to help you, but it isn't me.  I've 
never used a USB card, and never looked at the code for it.
 
 Thanks again, much appreciated to know some one is actually following 
 some of the discussions, more or less actively.
 
 Henry


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Re: [Alsa-user] MiaMIDI alsa in Ubuntu 8.04.1

2008-08-15 Thread Henry W. Peters
Hi Stan,

Thanks for re-reply...   information. I will check out the leads. 

One note; MiaMIDI is a PCI card, not a USB. I tried some USB audio/midi 
devices  couldn't get them to work with my setup in Windows XP, the MM 
card works well  is fairly flexible  hi res for an inexpensive 
audio/midi i/o... especially my Yamaha 01v mixer.

I may be back, one way or th'other.   I.e.;   :)  or :(   .  :)

Henry

stan wrote:
 Henry W. Peters wrote:
 Hi Stan,

 Thanks for reply.

 Yes, I have gone to the Echo Audio web site  support before I came 
 to this discussion list. I asked them (then) about drivers for 
 Linux... they pointed me to the alsa users wiki.  No, I didn't ask 
 about firmware...  now, I think I should do this, however, I visited 
 their web site again today,  saw no firmware, at all... I also 
 confirmed I had the latest drivers for Win XP.
 USB is a standard interface for sound.  If the vendor wants to do 
 more, they usually have firmware to customize the interface.  Your 
 card sounds like it is the standard USB interface with no 
 enhancements.  Were there special drivers for windows?  That is 
 usually an indication that there is firmware.  I didn't notice, was 
 the snd-usb driver installed on your system?

 The latest incarnation of ALSA has a special bucket for firmware.  You 
 could go here (top of page) and get the firmware and install it. Maybe 
 it would help.
 http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download#.28Unofficial.29_Daily_Snapshot_Tarballs
  


 What is also occurring to me is that since there are drivers for this 
 card written for Linux (I have them installed), there may be someone 
 out there who wrote them,  might just know about some 
 problems/solutions (?).
 The writer of the drivers will probably be on the alsa-devel list. 
 Mark Brown, who you were corresponding with earlier, is a developer.
 However, the generic USB driver is just that, generic.  The developer 
 might not know anything about your card.

 So, where you may be able to help here, is pointing toward some 
 possible direction to finding the author/s of said?
 I suppose you could look at the source code.  The kernel is very 
 strict these days about documentation and attribution.

 I know I am assuming some amount more, of experience on this list 
 than me... (I'm a real short timer here, you may have noticed).
 Most are.  Once their problem is solved, they're gone.  ;-)  There is 
 probably someone with experience to help you, but it isn't me.  I've 
 never used a USB card, and never looked at the code for it.

 Thanks again, much appreciated to know some one is actually following 
 some of the discussions, more or less actively.

 Henry




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Re: [Alsa-user] clanging sound when recording from line-in

2008-08-15 Thread stan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to ask but I don't know a
 better one: When recording from line input with audacity I get a totally
 clanging result. Even at quiet places in the music I  hear a low noise,
 when magnifying I see a sawtooth-form wave of about 4000 Hz.
Maybe someone else will have an idea of what this is.  Any RF sources 
nearby?  What happens if you use the beta version of audacity?
 
 During the recording, when i directly hear the music, it seems to be ok.

Heard from the line source independently, or through the sound card?

 When I do the recording at the same conditions using arecord from the
 command line the result is ok too. This way is not very convenient because
 one can judge the right pitch only afterwards.

The fact that arecord works without issue indicates to me that this is 
not an ALSA issue.  It is using alsa to get the audio it records.
It probably isn't a sound card issue either.  Or it might be a fluke 
when the actual source of the interference is inactive.

 
 I use Debian. With version 3 recording with Audacity was ok, using the
 same hardware at Debian 4.0r3 and 4.0r4 gives this evil result. It's the
 same when I use ReZound and another program I tried too.

I don't get a connection between the kernel version and the issue.
Do these use different versions of alsa?  What happens if you use the 
latest driver and library from alsa?

 
 Where might the reason be?

Good question!  :-)

Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can answer it.

 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Werner


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Re: [Alsa-user] MiaMIDI alsa in Ubuntu 8.04.1

2008-08-15 Thread stan
Henry W. Peters wrote:
 Hi Stan,
 
 Thanks for re-reply...   information. I will check out the leads.
 One note; MiaMIDI is a PCI card, not a USB. I tried some USB audio/midi 
 devices  couldn't get them to work with my setup in Windows XP, the MM 
 card works well  is fairly flexible  hi res for an inexpensive 
 audio/midi i/o... especially my Yamaha 01v mixer.
 
 I may be back, one way or th'other.   I.e.;   :)  or :(   .  :)
 
 Henry

Could you run a script which provides more information about your 
sound setup and post the link back here?

The script is found at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh

You can run the script so the results occur locally, by specifying the 
   ---no-upload   option.

alsa-info.sh --no-upload

You would then paste the output into your email instead of providing a 
link.

This does a scan of your system for sound related information.  It 
helps with diagnosis.  There might be something obvious that it shows.

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