Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Bob and list, On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Bob Williamswrote: [ stuff deleted ] > Sure. It's actually the same as yours, modified for this environment: > > audio_output { > enabled "yes" > type"alsa" > name"TEAC USB" > device "hw:3,0" > mixer_type "disabled" > auto_resample "no" > auto_channels "no" > auto_format "no" > dop "no" > } > Excellent, thanks very much! > > By the way, what does the 'dop' parameter do? I couldn't find any > references in the man page. > > DoP is "DSD over PCM", see for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital In your case, your TEAC may support this, so if you have DSD format music you might want to give it a try. I am not sure if DoP support is in all recent versions of MPD so you might want to investigate that as well to make sure that your version supports it. -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com C'est ma façon de parler. -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Chris, On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:42:01 -0700 chris hermansenwrote: > Bob and list, > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Bob Williams > wrote: > > [stuff deleted] > > > > > > Many thanks. That all worked well. > > > > Great! and you are most welcome. > > Please consider posting your working audio_output stanza for other > TEAC users. > Sure. It's actually the same as yours, modified for this environment: audio_output { enabled "yes" type"alsa" name"TEAC USB" device "hw:3,0" mixer_type "disabled" auto_resample "no" auto_channels "no" auto_format "no" dop "no" } By the way, what does the 'dop' parameter do? I couldn't find any references in the man page. Bob -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: pgpGRp8zNZ3wP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Bob and list, On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Bob Williamswrote: [stuff deleted] > > Many thanks. That all worked well. > Great! and you are most welcome. Please consider posting your working audio_output stanza for other TEAC users. -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com C'est ma façon de parler. -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Chris, On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:00:01 -0700 chris hermansenwrote: > Bob and list; > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Bob Williams > wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:12:32 -0700 > > chris hermansen wrote: > > > > > Bob, what connects your computer to your TEAC? A USB cable? > > > > > Yes, a USB cable. I also have a sound card, but want to use the TEAC > > DAC. > > > > > What music player do you use? > > > > > MPD > > > > > What is the output of "aplay -L" in a terminal window? > > > > bob@hexagon:~> aplay -L > > null > > Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples > > (capture) default > > Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) > > sysdefault:CARD=D1 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > Default Audio Device > > front:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > Front speakers > > surround21:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers > > surround40:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers > > surround41:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > > surround50:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers > > surround51:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer > > speakers surround71:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer > > speakers iec958:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > > Xonar D1, Multichannel > > IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output > > sysdefault:CARD=DEVICE > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > Default Audio Device > > front:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > Front speakers > > surround21:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers > > surround40:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers > > surround41:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > > surround50:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers > > surround51:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer > > speakers surround71:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer > > speakers iec958:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > > IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output > > > > > I would take this step by step. > > First you should use aplay to find out what works and what doesn't. > Find a .wav file of representative music somewhere or create one (use > soundconverter for instance). > > Run "aplay -l" to make sure that your TEAC card is card 1 (it looks as > though it is but check) > > Then try playing the resulting .wav file with aplay through the TEAC, > like this: > > aplay -D hw:1,0 mysong.wav > > (this will play at full volume if it works so make sure you have your > volume turned way down) > > If that doesn't work, try > > aplay -D plughw:1,0 mysong.wav > > Assuming one or the other of those works... > > Second, is the TEAC dedicated to MPD's use, or will you want other > programs to use it (like VLC)? > > Assuming it's dedicated, then I would configure MPD to talk directly > to the TEAC through ALSA, especially if you have music at varying bit > rates and you want to pass them through untouched. > > I run two music servers in my house, both with MPD and dedicated > DACs. My audio output stanza in my /etc/mpd.conf looks like this: > > audio_output { > enabled "yes" > type"alsa" > name"Schiit Bifrost" > device "hw:2,0" > mixer_type "disabled" > auto_resample "no" > auto_channels "no" > auto_format "no" > dop "no" > } > > You would have to change the name and the device. > > If the aplay experiments didn't work or you don't want to dedicate, > then get back to the list. > > Many thanks. That all worked well. -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: pgpmL97jZmBii.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Bob Williams wrote: > Well, after fiddling around in KDE System Settings, I seem to have got > it working. :-) However, it is using Analog Stereo output. As the TEAC > device contains a DAC, I would imagine it would give better quality if > it received digital data? USB always uses digital data. The output is called "Analog" because that's what is at the other end. It would be called "Digital" if it were an S/PDIF output. Regards, Clemens -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Bob and list; On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Bob Williamswrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:12:32 -0700 > chris hermansen wrote: > > > Bob, what connects your computer to your TEAC? A USB cable? > > > Yes, a USB cable. I also have a sound card, but want to use the TEAC > DAC. > > > What music player do you use? > > > MPD > > > What is the output of "aplay -L" in a terminal window? > > bob@hexagon:~> aplay -L > null > Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) > default > Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) > sysdefault:CARD=D1 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > Default Audio Device > front:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > Front speakers > surround21:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers > surround40:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers > surround41:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround50:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers > surround51:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround71:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers > iec958:CARD=D1,DEV=0 > Xonar D1, Multichannel > IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output > sysdefault:CARD=DEVICE > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > Default Audio Device > front:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > Front speakers > surround21:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers > surround40:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers > surround41:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround50:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers > surround51:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround71:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers > iec958:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 > TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio > IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output > > I would take this step by step. First you should use aplay to find out what works and what doesn't. Find a .wav file of representative music somewhere or create one (use soundconverter for instance). Run "aplay -l" to make sure that your TEAC card is card 1 (it looks as though it is but check) Then try playing the resulting .wav file with aplay through the TEAC, like this: aplay -D hw:1,0 mysong.wav (this will play at full volume if it works so make sure you have your volume turned way down) If that doesn't work, try aplay -D plughw:1,0 mysong.wav Assuming one or the other of those works... Second, is the TEAC dedicated to MPD's use, or will you want other programs to use it (like VLC)? Assuming it's dedicated, then I would configure MPD to talk directly to the TEAC through ALSA, especially if you have music at varying bit rates and you want to pass them through untouched. I run two music servers in my house, both with MPD and dedicated DACs. My audio output stanza in my /etc/mpd.conf looks like this: audio_output { enabled "yes" type"alsa" name"Schiit Bifrost" device "hw:2,0" mixer_type "disabled" auto_resample "no" auto_channels "no" auto_format "no" dop "no" } You would have to change the name and the device. If the aplay experiments didn't work or you don't want to dedicate, then get back to the list. -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com C'est ma façon de parler. -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:12:32 -0700 chris hermansenwrote: > Bob, what connects your computer to your TEAC? A USB cable? > Yes, a USB cable. I also have a sound card, but want to use the TEAC DAC. > What music player do you use? > MPD > What is the output of "aplay -L" in a terminal window? bob@hexagon:~> aplay -L null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) default Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) sysdefault:CARD=D1 Xonar D1, Multichannel Default Audio Device front:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel Front speakers surround21:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers surround40:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=D1,DEV=0 Xonar D1, Multichannel IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output sysdefault:CARD=DEVICE TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio Default Audio Device front:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio Front speakers surround21:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers surround40:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=DEVICE,DEV=0 TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE, USB Audio IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: pgp83ciHUsmT6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
Bob and list; On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Bob Williamswrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:35:53 +0100 > Bob Williams wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:16:07 +0100 > > Bob Williams wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have recently purchased a TEAC CR H101DAB receiver which can > > > receive USB input from my computer. My operating system is openSUSE > > > Leap 42.1 with kernel 4.1.31-30-default. I am using pulseaudio. > > > > > > YaST does not see the H101 at all, but alsamixer does. It reports > > > itself as TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE. > > > > > [snip lsusb output] > > > > Sorry, forgot to say that alsamixer just shows a single playback > > control called 'Digital In', but the control is unresponsive. > > > > Bob > > > > Well, after fiddling around in KDE System Settings, I seem to have got > it working. :-) However, it is using Analog Stereo output. As the TEAC > device contains a DAC, I would imagine it would give better quality if > it received digital data? The other output option is Digital Stereo > (IEC958) but when I select that there is only silence. > > I am aware that there are many layers involved, eg. alsa -> pulseaudio > -> mpd, but if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful. > > Bob, what connects your computer to your TEAC? A USB cable? What music player do you use? What is the output of "aplay -L" in a terminal window? -- Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com C'est ma façon de parler. -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] TEAC CR H101DAB receiver not seen as a sound device
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:16:07 +0100 Bob Williamswrote: > Hello, > > I have recently purchased a TEAC CR H101DAB receiver which can receive > USB input from my computer. My operating system is openSUSE Leap 42.1 > with kernel 4.1.31-30-default. I am using pulseaudio. > > YaST does not see the H101 at all, but alsamixer does. It reports > itself as TEAC USB AUDIO DEVICE. > [snip lsusb output] Sorry, forgot to say that alsamixer just shows a single playback control called 'Digital In', but the control is unresponsive. Bob -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: pgpFYb60X3Xmq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user