[AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant
Just received this mass-mailing from my ARRL Director. He never responded to my questions regarding the IARU bandplan, but now he has issued this broadside to all his division members explaining it all. And calling us names. Nice. I'm so glad I'm a member of this fine organization. Steve WD8DAS - - - - - - - - - - UNFOUNDED RUMORS: Region 2 IARU Band Plan AM Operation 7 NOV 2007 - 2050 CST Fellow Central Division ARRL Members: For those who follow FCC proceedings and already understand what the IARU is and how it operates, a lot of what I'm about to say may be old news to you. However, we still appear to have individuals, who do not understand the IARU (and sometimes even the FCC), get very excited when somebody tells them their cherished mode of amateur radio operation is in danger of being eliminated. What follows is for the benefit of these people. The recently approved IARU Region 2 Band Plan is only an advisory band plan for use, as desired, primarily by those amateur radio societies in Region 2 that have little in the way of a band plan. This is the second IARU Region to adopt a new or revised band plan. Region 3 still has yet to act on this item. The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) is only an advisory organization made up of the amateur radio societies in each respective region. Region 2 is North and South America. The geographic regions mirror the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) Regions. The ITU is the body that develops the rules at World Radio Conferences that then have to be adopted by each country. The IARU has no such power. The current mini-uproar is the result of a very few ignorant people with issues making postings to various un-moderated Internet email reflectors. There is no plot to shut down amateur radio AM operation in the U.S. or it's territories. The existing AM footnotes to our current band plan still apply and will continue to do so until the FCC changes or erases them from its Part 97 Regulations. I repeat, there is no ARRL plan to get rid of HF amateur radio AM operation in the U.S. I also point out that the AM footnotes (that enable AM operation) in the current FCC Amateur Radio Service band plan would have still applied to our regulation by bandwidth proposal, if it had become an FCC Regulation. Only the portions of the HF band plan that would have been changed were listed in the ARRL petition to the FCC. This is standard procedure in an FCC filing. Many people still do not get it. I find it absolutely amazing that many people jump to conclusions before they do their own homework. This is true in many activities, including amateur radio. There have been, and apparently always will be, individuals who are gullible, biased, have an axe to grind, or are some combination of the three when it comes to discussing and considering amateur radio regulations. They are few in number, but there are a lot of others who are taken in by these people simply because they don't understand the situation and don't want to spend the effort to get the facts directly from the source. I don't have a good answer to this situation other than to keep working to spread the truth. I apologize for my exasperation that shows through in this message. ARRL Central Division Director: George Isely, W9GIG [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant
On Nov 8, 2007 10:43 AM, KX5KW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think sentences 2 and 3 give evidence that sentence 1 is not true. No.say it isn't so! A League leader exaggerating, downplaying, or otherwise twisting the facts to suit his needs? Can't be. (o: If it was true that AM is only legal because of AM footnotes, it would certainly be a one step process to leave them out at some point in the future. That's probably what some people hope will happen. Precisely why so many objected to AM being given an 'exception' in their previous attempt. I believe the mini uproar showed him that it will not happen without resistance. Good that he noticed. :) Yeah, 'mini' my.footnote. If they get their way, they can truthfully claim that they didn't move to shut down AM. Just stifled it to a point that it's no longer enjoyable. With the expanded phone band privileges (and less competition for more spectrum by fewer hams as time goes on), the old 'inefficient/takes too much bandwidth' argument holds a lot less water. Was good to work you last weekend, Kent. Looking forward to more excellent conditions ahead. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant
1. There is no plot to shut down amateur radio AM operation in the U.S. or it's territories. 2. The existing AM footnotes to our current band plan still apply and will continue to do so ***until the FCC changes or erases them*** from its Part 97 Regulations. *** emphasis mine. 3. I also point out that the AM footnotes (that enable AM operation) in the current FCC Amateur Radio Service band plan... There are those words again. -AM footnotes- Is that true? The only reason AM can operate is because of some AM footnotes? I think sentences 2 and 3 give evidence that sentence 1 is not true. If it was true that AM is only legal because of AM footnotes, it would certainly be a one step process to leave them out at some point in the future. That's probably what some people hope will happen. I believe the mini uproar showed him that it will not happen without resistance. Good that he noticed. :) Kent/KX5KW __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant
Steve, did you answer that message? Our director and vice director are patient men who listen to our concerns and answer in a much nicer way that this message. Both of them have opposition this election cycle and I cannot but wonder if the opponents are more in the camp of the director you quote. Our director voted against the Regulation by Bandwidth and is opposed to any regulation that would inhibit any mode on the bands. I do know someone urged their opponents to run, but am not sure who that was. I suggest you, in a nice way, tell him to get the chip off his shoulder and listen to his constituents rather than lecture them. Language in subject to interpretation and, unfortunately for him, we see the language differently. Jim/W5JO Subject: [AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant Just received this mass-mailing from my ARRL Director. He never responded to my questions regarding the IARU bandplan, but now he has issued this broadside to all his division members explaining it all. And calling us names. Nice. I'm so glad I'm a member of this fine organization. Steve WD8DAS - - - - - - - - - - UNFOUNDED RUMORS: Region 2 IARU Band Plan AM Operation 7 NOV 2007 - 2050 CST Fellow Central Division ARRL Members: For those who follow FCC proceedings and already understand what the IARU is and how it operates, a lot of what I'm about to say may be old news to you. However, we still appear to have individuals, who do not understand the IARU (and sometimes even the FCC), get very excited when somebody tells them their cherished mode of amateur radio operation is in danger of being eliminated. What follows is for the benefit of these people. The recently approved IARU Region 2 Band Plan is only an advisory band plan for use, as desired, primarily by those amateur radio societies in Region 2 that have little in the way of a band plan. This is the second IARU Region to adopt a new or revised band plan. Region 3 still has yet to act on this item. The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) is only an advisory organization made up of the amateur radio societies in each respective region. Region 2 is North and South America. The geographic regions mirror the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) Regions. The ITU is the body that develops the rules at World Radio Conferences that then have to be adopted by each country. The IARU has no such power. The current mini-uproar is the result of a very few ignorant people with issues making postings to various un-moderated Internet email reflectors. There is no plot to shut down amateur radio AM operation in the U.S. or it's territories. The existing AM footnotes to our current band plan still apply and will continue to do so until the FCC changes or erases them from its Part 97 Regulations. I repeat, there is no ARRL plan to get rid of HF amateur radio AM operation in the U.S. I also point out that the AM footnotes (that enable AM operation) in the current FCC Amateur Radio Service band plan would have still applied to our regulation by bandwidth proposal, if it had become an FCC Regulation. Only the portions of the HF band plan that would have been changed were listed in the ARRL petition to the FCC. This is standard procedure in an FCC filing. Many people still do not get it. I find it absolutely amazing that many people jump to conclusions before they do their own homework. This is true in many activities, including amateur radio. There have been, and apparently always will be, individuals who are gullible, biased, have an axe to grind, or are some combination of the three when it comes to discussing and considering amateur radio regulations. They are few in number, but there are a lot of others who are taken in by these people simply because they don't understand the situation and don't want to spend the effort to get the facts directly from the source. I don't have a good answer to this situation other than to keep working to spread the truth. I apologize for my exasperation that shows through in this message. ARRL Central Division Director: George Isely, W9GIG [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the ignorant
The current mini-uproar is the result of a very few ignorant people with issues making postings to various un-moderated Internet email reflectors. Dear Mr. Isely, I find these sort of comments very insulting to those who have a right to discuss and seek information freely about an issue that is of great concern to them. If you feel there are those of us who are ignorant people, maybe the ARRL should have posted an easy to understand explanation to the public on their website. Maybe even quote your email publicly? I own and manage the only AM email list that I'm aware of, and have since 1997. It has never been moderated because I believe in allowing free speech when it pertains to any issue with the operation of AM on the amateur bands, so long as those discussions remain civil, and on topic. I assure you that my policy on that will NOT change. Sure, there may be certain comments made that are from those who do not fully understand all the legalese and loopholes in these documents, but perhaps not all of us understand the higher meaning of things that you can. Thanks for your terse explanation. Brian Sherrod / wa5am -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI Harvard Minor Planet Station (MPC) H44/Cascade Mtn. Arkansas www.arksky.org __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
