Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.95.1 MSNP12

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:01:30 -0500, Sander Hoentjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 17:17 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:

CUT

KKRT


Well yes that was my idea.. a user doesn't see that it is a big change,
but it wants PSM enabled.. so it looks like a minor thing. But the only
way to make sure it works ok is to enable it in CVS. It was already
delayed for more then a month (or two?) because we didn't want it in
0.95. That's why I made the suggestion to enable it in cvs and see if we
release it with 0.95.1 or not. I am against not enabling in cvs and then
shipping in 0.95.1 as an option. I would prefer enabling now, turning of
with the release but make it available as an option.



yeah, I'm ok with that.. I though of an option for cvs and 0.95.1, but if  
you want it to be 'forced testing', then enable it in cvs and add to the  
wiki in the release notes : revert back protocol change to msnp12 or  
something that we'd understand...
also, make the option available from now so we won't rush to add it once  
we're ready to release and we remember to do it after reading the release  
notes...



Tjikkun

P.S. Just FYI: Earlier today i got my first msnp13 contact list. There
is still a LOT todo before p13 is even ready for testing, but there is
slow progress.



congrats :D keep it up! :)




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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.95.1 MSNP12

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
yes, it's stable 'as far as we know', but my aMSN didn't give me a bug  
report for years now, but still when we have a 'wide' release, we get  
thousands of bugreports a day... it's not about not launching something  
'new and great' in a bugfix release, it's about not launching something  
'that isn't mature, that didn't get enough testing' in a release that has  
one purpose : make the application more stable.. if it was about a new  
small dialog, no prob, but changing the whole protocol... nope, it's  
something else.. for what I know, we could have (after a release to 1  
million users) only 10% of the people where it works correctly... some  
might end up loosing contacts (who's fault would that be?) and that's not  
what I would call a get the new version,it's even more stable!
I'm not generous, I'm not 'giving permission' to anything... I'm just  
trying to think about all the aspects, and I'm giving my opinion (!=  
permission)...


KKRT

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:35:32 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Okay, okay it is quite stable, we know that now
It is just: something new and great is not to be launched in a bugfix  
release.
But because users want to have it, Youness is being very generous by  
giving

you permission to add it anyway, but then marked as 'experimental'.

Op donderdag 12 januari 2006 23:29, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:

 Now, this is MY suggestion...
 what do we get by using MSNP12 ? what new feature ? PSM ? anything  
else

 ? I'd say, let's have an option in advanced window that says :
 Enable support for Personal Messages (EXPERIMENTAL feature) -- needs
 profile + restart

Yes, I think this is the best thing to do.

BTW, YOU haven't used MSNP12 (scared or what? :P), but I'm using it for
quite a long time now. If it has any problems, they have to do with
groups. I am not using groups and it works perfectly (so far)!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:19:07 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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learn when you have time, learn when you don't have the choice, and
you'll  get the chance to learn don't worry.. but if it's not  
necessary,

you don't  need to.. use cabextract, this is my suggestion and I hope
it's done.


I hope it's done ? ... what do you mean ?
Anyways, the first version of the plugin will just use cabextract I
guess but it's possible to extend it after ...

I meant I'd be glad if it was done, would help me sleep better knowing  
that the code is 'robust'... don't worry, I wasn't threatening you :P
and really, if you want to learn, learn with something that was never  
done... don't waste time on this since you have cabextract... ne-ways



ok cool, I didn't know it was already complete, I though it was in
development (no release yet!)


So far it is able to play all the winks present in the official version
of messenger ... however if someone has access to more sophisticated
winks, please let met know to test !

cool, then I guess we're ok :D I don't think you'll need to test much more  
because winks are not 'silent scope ported to flash'.. it's just dumb  
animation...



well, a matter of minutes to create the final proc :
exec cabextract $file $out  gnash $out
less than a minute :P


Hey hey ... almost ... in the cab there is an xml file that indicates
the kind of application to launch (so far only shockwave-flash) and
there is an entry indicating the name of the file and its thumbnail

Not much more complex ... but a little bit ;)



oh cool, didn't know.. good luck then, have fun too :D


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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62

just to show gnash is not the only one ;)  

Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 05:28 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui:
 oh and btw, read my thread about MSNP12 to learn about the xml parsing  
 proc... if you can't use it (because of ?xml) either fix the regexp (:p)  
 or use :: sxml procs...
 
 KKRT
 
 On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:19:07 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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  learn when you have time, learn when you don't have the choice, and
  you'll  get the chance to learn don't worry.. but if it's not  
  necessary,
  you don't  need to.. use cabextract, this is my suggestion and I hope
  it's done.
 
  I hope it's done ? ... what do you mean ?
  Anyways, the first version of the plugin will just use cabextract I
  guess but it's possible to extend it after ...
 
  ok cool, I didn't know it was already complete, I though it was in
  development (no release yet!)
 
  So far it is able to play all the winks present in the official version
  of messenger ... however if someone has access to more sophisticated
  winks, please let met know to test !
 
  well, a matter of minutes to create the final proc :
  exec cabextract $file $out  gnash $out
  less than a minute :P
 
  Hey hey ... almost ... in the cab there is an xml file that indicates
  the kind of application to launch (so far only shockwave-flash) and
  there is an entry indicating the name of the file and its thumbnail
 
  Not much more complex ... but a little bit ;)
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.95.1 MSNP12

2006-01-13 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Changes below just made:

I haven't enabled it by default yet, Going to lunch and I'll see when I 
get back :)

  yeah, I'm ok with that.. I though of an option for cvs and 0.95.1, but 
  if you want it to be 'forced testing', then enable it in cvs and add to 
  the wiki in the release notes : revert back protocol change to msnp12 
  or something that we'd understand...
 
 yes... I'll do it in a while - let me settle down at the lab and I'll add 
 it, I just came :D
 
  also, make the option available from now so we won't rush to add it once 
  we're ready to release and we remember to do it after reading the 
  release notes...
 
 And the enterpsm key needs to be added to langen.   -- note to self
 
 Vivia
 


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Reflector down?

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:47:47 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 05:09 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:57:33 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 00:01 +0200, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
  conclusion : no direct connection is made, so reflector is tried
 after a
  30second delay...

 The status log didn't even mention the reflector, it just wouldn't  
try.

 I
 didn't get the trying reflector message.


depends, if the other user is the one who should initiate the reflector,
not you...

 Though it worked later with Arieh. Karel, I think we should test  
again

 tomorrow.

 In fact, they just all want to see me :D ... j/k
not me :P

 I recompiled my webcamsn btw but still got crashes ... dodn't have a  
bt

 though ... if I find some time today I'll try maybe

crash ? what crash ?


The one I reported earlier this week that got the whole discussion about
the way libmimic was coded going :p  Damn .. didn't want to mention it
again ;)


damn.. ok!!
it's not written on my forehead should remember everything, it's written  
what was my name already? :P

sorry, I tend to forget very easily when I'm tired and busy (like lately)


 Karel.

 Vivia


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.95.1 MSNP12

2006-01-13 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

   yeah, I'm ok with that.. I though of an option for cvs and 0.95.1, 
   but if you want it to be 'forced testing', then enable it in cvs and 
   add to the wiki in the release notes : revert back protocol change 
   to msnp12 or something that we'd understand...

Done. Everyone will now be using P12, unless you remove line 619 from 
config.tcl .


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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
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It is possible to buy new Winks in the original MSN, so it is possible
to add new ones in a certain way, but I don't know if we can literally
add custom winks ... and how it works :S

Anyway ... I think that the kind of thing aMSN should do, even if the
original don't have it :)

GrdScarabe

Youness Alaoui wrote:
 indeed, interesting remark... but question is, do we want to have the 
 feature (does MSN 7 have it?) to 'add custom winks' ?
 
 KKRT
 
 On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 03:48:08 -0500, GrdScarabe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 Considering that the last commit in the repository has 20 months
 probably not ... :S
 
 However it seems that most of the tools to implement this is available
 and documented :
 http://www.speakeasy.org/~russotto/chm/lzx_compress.html
 
 I can't find a tool able to compress in CAB ... even 7-zip isn't able to
 :S I will work first on the ability to receive the winks, and then I'll
 try to implement something based on the work already done around CAB
 compression.
 
 GrdScarabe
 
 Sander Hoentjen wrote:
 
 you are right.. also.. is that project still under development? It seems
 not.

 On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 02:29 -0500, GrdScarabe wrote:

 Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:01 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:



 Quote : The cabextract source has been refactored and rewritten
 into  a
 portable, extensible, robust library called libmspack. Now
 cabextract  is
 just a UNIX-specialised command line application using the OS-agnostic
 libmspack CAB decompressor. Any developers who were considering using
 cabextract in their own software should now look at libmspack first.



 yeah, stupid me.. but do we want to exec cabextract $in $temp 
 $flashplayer $temp or do we want to write our own tcl commands
 that  wrap
 the library, then use ::cabextractor::extract $in $temp; exec
 $flashplayer $temp


 so cabextractor is better since it does what we need to do.. we
 need  to
 extract a cab, we don't need to do anything else that may need the
 library's extended features...



 But what about the create people that make some very sweet flash movie
 for their loved ones.. or just annoying ones for anyone else.. we 
 should
 put it in a cab, right? so with the lib we can do it, with cabextract
 no.


 It is not yet implemented in the libsmpack ... so far no compression is
 implemented in the lib according to this page :
 http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/libmspack/

 However this is a good remark ... I will take a look at the library, if
 the design is not too bad it would be easy to extract from the library
 only the features we are interested in and as the lib is under LGPL we
 will be able to create a libmspacklight !

 Btw, I've just finally successfully played all the winks given by Karel
 with gnash ... so that is a good news. I will try to first develop a
 dummy plugin just able to detect a wink and launch a cabextract and play
 in gnash.

 I try to do this for the end of the month ...

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.95.1 MSNP12

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui

Hi,
thx for doing it,
little issue though, the line you added is about setting the config key  
protocol to 11.. which means everyone using CVS will have their config set  
to use MSNP12... (shouldn't the if $protocol == 11 become if $protocol ==  
12 ?)
but it also means that when we remove that line for the release, we won't  
get msnp9 by default again, no, we'll only get people who weren't using  
cvs to still use msnp9.. but the others who even just tried cvs for one  
day will have their config key set to 11 and it won't revert back to 9...
I think it's not the correct way of doing it but I don't think it's an  
issue since people who'll use cvs won't really care about the 'bugfix  
release' (unless they used cvs because they were told it's stable and they  
needed their bug to be fixed ASAP)..

my fix for this would have been in the proc ::config::setKey :
if { $key == protocol } return 11
else if ([info exists ... ) return ::config::config(key)

change it IF you want, but I would say it's not necessary, it's not a huge  
issue... users who don't like it could just go f...  :D
if me mail was not clear, simple : I'm tired and don't know what I'm  
talking about


c ya
KKRT

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:53:52 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





  yeah, I'm ok with that.. I though of an option for cvs and 0.95.1,
  but if you want it to be 'forced testing', then enable it in cvs and
  add to the wiki in the release notes : revert back protocol change
  to msnp12 or something that we'd understand...


Done. Everyone will now be using P12, unless you remove line 619 from
config.tcl .


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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
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Karel Demeyer wrote:
 http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62
 
 just to show gnash is not the only one ;)  

Yep ... I've checked some too, but the reason why I like Gnash is that
he doesn't have as much dependencies as the others  good point if we
want to ditribute it with aMSN.

Now ... it is also possible to let the user specify its flash player if
he wants to (advanced option) ... because, my guess is that on Windows
it would be much better to use the Macromedia one !

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Reflector down?

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe
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 The one I reported earlier this week that got the whole discussion about
 the way libmimic was coded going :p  Damn .. didn't want to mention it
 again ;)

 damn.. ok!!
 it's not written on my forehead should remember everything, it's
 written  what was my name already? :P
 sorry, I tend to forget very easily when I'm tired and busy (like lately)

Does it still crash with the patch applied ?  I don't know if the
patch has been applied or not ... just to know :)

GrdScarabe
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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 10:27 -0500, schreef GrdScarabe:
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 Karel Demeyer wrote:
  http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62
  
  just to show gnash is not the only one ;)  
 
 Yep ... I've checked some too, but the reason why I like Gnash is that
 he doesn't have as much dependencies as the others  good point if we
 want to ditribute it with aMSN.
 
 Now ... it is also possible to let the user specify its flash player if
 he wants to (advanced option) ... because, my guess is that on Windows
 it would be much better to use the Macromedia one !
Yup, and I guess there's a macromedia one for mac too ? :) ... but I
mentioned swfdec before as it works as a gstreamer-plugin ... and
gstreamer is likely to become the default unix multimedia system (so on
all platforms available) and farsight (which we are likely to use in the
future for A/V integration also uses the gstreamer system.   Also, gnash
is not in ubuntu's packaging system (maybe still a bit to 'new').  But I
guess it's just fine as long it's easily configurable :).  

Good luck :)


 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Added features to the SayIt plugin

2006-01-13 Thread Christoffer Brodd-Reijer

Arieh Schneier wrote:

I committed the patch. However I made a couple of changes first.

First, your patch contained code with a message saying this section should
be removed, and it was not in the first time you sent the patch, therefore I
removed that code.
Oh, I suppose that was the swedish stuff. Since festival doesn't 
recognize swedish characters I just had to fix that. :)




Second at the moment the filter was only on or off so I changed it to a bool
type.
We can keep the filter as a bool for the moment but I hoped that the 
filter could be extended to filter out junk text as ..., etc.




Third, you had a list of smileys to filter out, I removed that list and just
use the actual list of smileys instead.

Nice, I didn't think of that. :)



Lio.

- Original Message - 
From: Christoffer Brodd-Reijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Added features to the SayIt plugin



Sure, sorry about that. Attached it this time.

Alvaro J. Iradier wrote:

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Hi, I was goingto apply your patch, but it looks like I cant. I saved
the part of your email to a .diff file, and tried:

$ patch sayit.tcl  ~/sayit.diff
patching file sayit.tcl
patch:  `' expected at line 8 of patch

Could you please send a .diff fil instead of the diffs in the body of
the email?

Greets.

Christoffer Brodd-Reijer wrote:

Hi,

I have been adding some stuff to the sayit plugin. I do not want to

step

 on anyone's toes or something. I checked the webpage but could not get
a mailing address to the maintainers so I thought I might send a mail

to

the list.

Here's what I added:

* Ability to make it say a special string when window is unfocused
(default: $nickname writes $msg). It makes it easier to know who said

what.

* Filtering of smileys

Here's the diff between the old and the new sayit.tcl. If you don't

like

the changes that's alright, just wanted to show it and hoped it could

be

worth a look.

32a33,34

  unfocusstring {$nickname writes $msg}
  junkfilter {2}

40a43,51

  [list str String to say when unfocused

unfocusstring] \

  [list rbt No filter Filter smileys

junkfilter] \

  ]

  set ::sayit::smileys [list \
  :P:O:S;P:D \
  =P=O=S=D=) \
  =(=/=|:|:/ \
  :(:););D \

48a60

  upvar 2 $newvar(chatid) chatid

58a71,90

  # junkfilter
  #
  # TODO:
  #  * Add extra filter level: remove '...' and

similar junk.

  if { ($config(junkfilter) = 2) } {
  variable smileys
  foreach smiley $smileys {
  while { ([set hit [lsearch $msg

$smiley]] != -1) } {

  set msg [lreplace $msg

$hit $hit]

  }
  }
  }
  if { (![string compare $msg ]) } { return }

  # if window unfocused, use special string
  if { ([focus] == ) } {
  set msg [subst $config(unfocusstring)]
  }


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Christoffer




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[Amsn-devel] Inks.... :( (Depressive people don't read that :p)

2006-01-13 Thread Le Philousophe - Phil
Hi guys,
bad news... Last days I was trying to make Inks work with MSN7 so I 
implemented the P2P ink transfer believing it was the key to make them 
work... But after some searching I found a bad news... I tried to send my own 
GIFs and each time it didn't work : the image didn't display... So I thought 
it was a bug in my P2P transfer... But after I had an idea : capturing a GIF 
comming from MSN7 and resend it and... It worked !! So I deduced that the 
data was the cause and searched again and again... And yesterday just before 
going sleeping I saw the true !! Each GIF created by MSN contains data in GIF 
comment field : ISF (ink serialized fromat) data I suppose so that when MSN7 
get a GIF for inks and when it has Journal Viewer installed it search in this 
field to get the ink... But if it hasn't Journal Viewer installed it will 
display the GIF content : I tried with Alberto (thanks to him) : he sent me 
an Ink with his aMsn original (so old way to send inks) and I received it on 
my MSN7 !! Why ?? Because I don't have the Journal Viewer installed !! I 
can't write inks !! So I think without reversing the ISF we can't send Inks 
to MSN7 and over users...
It's too bad I know...
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Inks.... :( (Depressive people don't read that :p)

2006-01-13 Thread Joao Victor
Gotta love Microsoft.

Cheers,
J.V.


2006/1/13, Le Philousophe - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi guys,
 bad news... Last days I was trying to make Inks work with MSN7 so I
 implemented the P2P ink transfer believing it was the key to make them
 work... But after some searching I found a bad news... I tried to send my own
 GIFs and each time it didn't work : the image didn't display... So I thought
 it was a bug in my P2P transfer... But after I had an idea : capturing a GIF
 comming from MSN7 and resend it and... It worked !! So I deduced that the
 data was the cause and searched again and again... And yesterday just before
 going sleeping I saw the true !! Each GIF created by MSN contains data in GIF
 comment field : ISF (ink serialized fromat) data I suppose so that when MSN7
 get a GIF for inks and when it has Journal Viewer installed it search in this
 field to get the ink... But if it hasn't Journal Viewer installed it will
 display the GIF content : I tried with Alberto (thanks to him) : he sent me
 an Ink with his aMsn original (so old way to send inks) and I received it on
 my MSN7 !! Why ?? Because I don't have the Journal Viewer installed !! I
 can't write inks !! So I think without reversing the ISF we can't send Inks
 to MSN7 and over users...
 It's too bad I know...
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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a wink not a flash  
animation and msn creates the wink (Cab file/xml/thumbnail) from it...
yes, aMSN should be able to give users the opportunity to not only 'steal'  
winks from users, but also create a custom wink, but it should also allow  
entering an image for the thumbnail... do we really need that feature in  
the first release of the 'winks support' ?  I don't think so, it can be  
left for some other time...


KKRT

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:19:36 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



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It is possible to buy new Winks in the original MSN, so it is possible
to add new ones in a certain way, but I don't know if we can literally
add custom winks ... and how it works :S

Anyway ... I think that the kind of thing aMSN should do, even if the
original don't have it :)

GrdScarabe

Youness Alaoui wrote:

indeed, interesting remark... but question is, do we want to have the
feature (does MSN 7 have it?) to 'add custom winks' ?

KKRT

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 03:48:08 -0500, GrdScarabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Considering that the last commit in the repository has 20 months
probably not ... :S

However it seems that most of the tools to implement this is available
and documented :
http://www.speakeasy.org/~russotto/chm/lzx_compress.html

I can't find a tool able to compress in CAB ... even 7-zip isn't able to
:S I will work first on the ability to receive the winks, and then I'll
try to implement something based on the work already done around CAB
compression.

GrdScarabe

Sander Hoentjen wrote:

you are right.. also.. is that project still under development? It  
seems

not.

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 02:29 -0500, GrdScarabe wrote:

Sander Hoentjen wrote:


On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:01 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:





Quote : The cabextract source has been refactored and rewritten
into  a
portable, extensible, robust library called libmspack. Now
cabextract  is
just a UNIX-specialised command line application using the  
OS-agnostic
libmspack CAB decompressor. Any developers who were considering  
using
cabextract in their own software should now look at libmspack  
first.





yeah, stupid me.. but do we want to exec cabextract $in $temp 
$flashplayer $temp or do we want to write our own tcl commands
that  wrap
the library, then use ::cabextractor::extract $in $temp; exec
$flashplayer $temp




so cabextractor is better since it does what we need to do.. we
need  to
extract a cab, we don't need to do anything else that may need the
library's extended features...




But what about the create people that make some very sweet flash  
movie

for their loved ones.. or just annoying ones for anyone else.. we
should
put it in a cab, right? so with the lib we can do it, with  
cabextract

no.



It is not yet implemented in the libsmpack ... so far no compression  
is

implemented in the lib according to this page :
http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/libmspack/

However this is a good remark ... I will take a look at the library,  
if
the design is not too bad it would be easy to extract from the  
library
only the features we are interested in and as the lib is under LGPL  
we

will be able to create a libmspacklight !

Btw, I've just finally successfully played all the winks given by  
Karel

with gnash ... so that is a good news. I will try to first develop a
dummy plugin just able to detect a wink and launch a cabextract and  
play

in gnash.

I try to do this for the end of the month ...

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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread GrdScarabe

Youness Alaoui wrote:
well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a wink not a 
flash animation and msn creates the wink (Cab file/xml/thumbnail) from 
it...


Yea ... that's it !

yes, aMSN should be able to give users the opportunity to not only 
'steal' winks from users, but also create a custom wink, but it should 
also allow entering an image for the thumbnail... do we really need that 
feature in the first release of the 'winks support' ?  I don't think so, 
it can be left for some other time...


..and that's the plan ;) ... so I think we're on the same wave length :)

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Inks.... :( (Depressive people don't read that :p)

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
There must be a solution to this... + I'm sure the algorithm is easy to  
reverse engineer (for someone who was able to RE the webcam codec :P) but  
from what I heard the ink format is not that compilcated, the complicated  
part is that the ISF is itself compressed with a 'WTF' compression  
algorithm..

WTF is not the FCC.. it's a What The Fuck algorithm

but I'm sure there's something else..try for example, pasting an image  
(like a background capture) and sending it through ink.. I'm sure they  
won't 'isf-ize' the background.. there probably is a comment field that  
would say no ISF available, we could probably have a  
::CxImage::addComment $gif_file $comment_data, where TkCxImage would allow  
us to add anything we want to the gif, and thus, make it compatible...

though of that ? try searching that way...

KKRT

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:52:28 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi guys,
bad news... Last days I was trying to make Inks work with MSN7 so I
implemented the P2P ink transfer believing it was the key to make them
work... But after some searching I found a bad news... I tried to send  
my own
GIFs and each time it didn't work : the image didn't display... So I  
thought
it was a bug in my P2P transfer... But after I had an idea : capturing a  
GIF

comming from MSN7 and resend it and... It worked !! So I deduced that the
data was the cause and searched again and again... And yesterday just  
before
going sleeping I saw the true !! Each GIF created by MSN contains data  
in GIF
comment field : ISF (ink serialized fromat) data I suppose so that when  
MSN7
get a GIF for inks and when it has Journal Viewer installed it search in  
this

field to get the ink... But if it hasn't Journal Viewer installed it will
display the GIF content : I tried with Alberto (thanks to him) : he sent  
me
an Ink with his aMsn original (so old way to send inks) and I received  
it on

my MSN7 !! Why ?? Because I don't have the Journal Viewer installed !! I
can't write inks !! So I think without reversing the ISF we can't send  
Inks

to MSN7 and over users...
It's too bad I know...
Phil



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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:18:56 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Youness Alaoui wrote:
well, I think that if you 'buy' a wink... it will be a wink not a  
flash animation and msn creates the wink (Cab file/xml/thumbnail)  
from it...


Yea ... that's it !

yes, aMSN should be able to give users the opportunity to not only  
'steal' winks from users, but also create a custom wink, but it should  
also allow entering an image for the thumbnail... do we really need  
that feature in the first release of the 'winks support' ?  I don't  
think so, it can be left for some other time...


..and that's the plan ;) ... so I think we're on the same wave length :)


n, we're NOT :@
:P


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Inks.... :( (Depressive people don't read that :p)

2006-01-13 Thread Youness Alaoui

Microsoft's biggest competitor == Raid
:p

KKRT

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:42:11 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Youness Alaoui wrote:
There must be a solution to this... + I'm sure the algorithm is easy to  
reverse engineer (for someone who was able to RE the webcam codec :P)  
but from what I heard the ink format is not that compilcated, the  
complicated part is that the ISF is itself compressed with a 'WTF'  
compression algorithm..

WTF is not the FCC.. it's a What The Fuck algorithm


Isn't it the f** algorithm in which specialist have found a couple a big  
security holes lately :)

... Microsoft ... spreading out the bugs :D

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[Amsn-devel] bug when adding a contact

2006-01-13 Thread Yoda BZH
with the latest cvs,
add A in a group myGroup (for example)
A appears in No group
restart amsn
A is now in myGroup

AND

if A restart his msn client (amsn in this case) before mine, A will
still be in No group

(testing with biblio)
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[Amsn-devel] Strange characters bug reproduced!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

I accidentally managed to reproduce the strange characters bug! It happens 
when you try to connect over port 80!

However, I am at home now and don't want to perform binary search on the 
versions. We know that 0.94 works and that June's version has the bug. 
Does anyone want to find the date when it was introduced before I go to 
the university on monday?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] a flash player for winks

2006-01-13 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 16:12 -0500, schreef Youness Alaoui:
 yeah, well, whatever does the job! we nned it to be customized and  
 portable and maintainable! apart from that, anything (even a flash player  
 your grandma did on her young days...:P) would be perfect as long as it  
 does the job, it plays the thing...
 
 gnash is not in ubuntu because gnash has NO releases yet.. only cvs  
 snapshots are available.. it's still in development (so they say)
 
 and yes, we'll use farsight soon (0.96 ? :D) I'll see if burger can think  
 of something for it ?
 Burger : use farisght to play flash 'movies' for the Winks feature ? using  
 swfdec plugin to gstreamer.. how hard would that be ?

Afaik, we need a tcl/tk wrapper for gstreamer so we can have it
integrate audio/video in amsn. Then, you 'just' build a gstreamer
pipeline using the libmimic plugin for webcam ... or the libswfdec
plugin for flash support ... so I think the most work part for aMSN
will be the gstreamer-tcl/tk bindings.  If needed I can ask more info
from a gstreamer-developper (Ronald Bultje) I can contact via
Gnome-NL... but I guess Burger can help even well :)


Karel.


 KKRT
 
 
 On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:35:01 -0500, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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  Op vr, 13-01-2006 te 10:27 -0500, schreef GrdScarabe:
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  Karel Demeyer wrote:
   http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=62
  
   just to show gnash is not the only one ;)
 
  Yep ... I've checked some too, but the reason why I like Gnash is that
  he doesn't have as much dependencies as the others  good point if we
  want to ditribute it with aMSN.
 
  Now ... it is also possible to let the user specify its flash player if
  he wants to (advanced option) ... because, my guess is that on Windows
  it would be much better to use the Macromedia one !
  Yup, and I guess there's a macromedia one for mac too ? :) ... but I
  mentioned swfdec before as it works as a gstreamer-plugin ... and
  gstreamer is likely to become the default unix multimedia system (so on
  all platforms available) and farsight (which we are likely to use in the
  future for A/V integration also uses the gstreamer system.   Also, gnash
  is not in ubuntu's packaging system (maybe still a bit to 'new').  But I
  guess it's just fine as long it's easily configurable :).
 
  Good luck :)
 
 
 
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[Amsn-devel] Re: small amsn feature request

2006-01-13 Thread Alvaro J. Iradier
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Well, I can't tell you. It depends if some developer have some free time
and works to work on this... I'm forwarding your suggestion to the
amsn-devel mailing list, so everyone can think about it.

Greets.

Alb!n wrote:
 Hi,
 I asked you some times ago if it would be possible to implement the
 connection via an autoconf proxy script on Amsn, that would be very helpful.
 I understand that it's not -happily- your priority to implement features
 requested by few (or one) users. Nonetheless, it would be fine if you
 could say me if there's a probability for the feature to be implemented
 or not.
 Regards,
 Albin Tonnerre


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Re: Strange characters bug reproduced!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Alvaro J. Iradier
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Probably we forget some [encoding convertfrom] and [encoding converto]
in the proxy.tcl code. If I remember correctly, everything send and
received to/from the server is utf-8.

Greets.

Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
I accidentally managed to reproduce the strange characters bug! It happens 
when you try to connect over port 80!
 
 
 It is actually utf-8 text interpreted as iso-8859-1 , no matter its 
 language. On the sending end, the nickname is sent correctly to the 
 server, the PSM is not. Also, when connecting over port 80, no PSMs are 
 received.
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] website

2006-01-13 Thread Karol Krizka
On Sunday 08 January 2006 21:48, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 oh, forgot some things...
 btw :
 the poll results line of total number of votes should be made bold or
 something.. in order to make it look better...
Done.

 second, the edit news page of the control panel outputs \r\n instead of
 puttin a newline (from amsn.sf.net/www/admin NOT from amsn.sf.net/cpanel)

What do you mean?

 and finally.. when will the website be updated ?

I need one thing done before uploading it. Last week I got rid of some useless 
tags that were only used for formating since  Imanaged to get the same effect 
with CSS. But it screwed up the recent posts block, not sure why. I looked 
at the code for it and it looks weird. First of all it's not really XHTML and 
every news item is a seperate list. I think the following format would be 
better:
document.write('ul style=text-align: left;padding-left: 20px;margin-bottom: 
0px');
document.write('lia href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=253;MSN 
Emoticons/a/li');
document.write('lia href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=252;Errors 
during make.../a/li');
document.write('lia 
href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=251;Plusieurs Compte 
connecte.../a/li');
document.write('lia 
href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=250;Transfert et comptes  
pr.../a/li');
document.write('lia 
href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=249;Showing up as offline 
to .../a/li');
document.write('lia href=http://amsnforums.net/viewtopic.phpt=248;a few 
webcam/amsn questio.../a/li');
document.write('/ul');
It's a single list containg all recent posts as items. It also makes more 
sence in the structure it this way. So Yves, could you change it to make it 
like it? Do you have any comments?

 that's about it! thx!


 KKRT

 On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 00:44:52 -0500, Youness Alaoui

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello,
  I updated the linux-download.php file, so please, when you update the
  website using the CVS version, make sure to update the file in CVS too
  (I don't have access to www/ directory...)
  also, can you look at how I did it and fix the width problem of the
  combobox...
  when you update the website, also, make sure to clean the main dir first
  (admin directory already exists and is the old admin dir from phpnuke...)

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