Re: [Amsn-devel] What is going on here?????

2006-05-09 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Huge email of Youness mentioning my name infinite times... I guess I can't 
hush now. First, a little status report for 0.96 TODO (nothing too much)

* linflash : thanx Sander for that patch, we need to somehow find out how 
on earth to query the WM. (UPDATE: see Phil's email which arrived after I 
started writing mine)

* webcam pause : Rather than the solution Youness suggested, I think it 
would be faster to just assume it works just like without reflector and 
see if M$N accepts it. But Youness, I didn't quite understand the 
modifications you talked about. Can you find 10 minutes for this? I can do 
the testing with some M$N user then. If it doesn't work, then we can see 
what happens...

* proxy : I thought it was OK, then someone on the forum reported that it 
doesn't go well with authenticating proxies. I have NO authenticating 
proxy though, so I just told that poor user to send a patch (just directed 
him to proc secureSocket, whose authentication part was untested already) 
(he seemed experienced in programming and willing to help anyway).

Now, I guess you're right that, since I joined, people somehow expected 
things to be done automagically. This is why I quite stopped coding lately 
and I prefer assigning stuff to people on PM. I also like to motivate them 
this way - motivation comes more easily when you see that someone believes 
in you. But activity is still below 0 - maybe because all 3 issues left 
are tricky?

Apart from this, I'm lately having an awful combination of inability to 
concentrate and important deadlines at university. So, when I do find some 
minutes when I can actually concentrate and do some work, I prefer to work 
on my assignments rather than to code for aMSN. I guess I also need a 
break before I start being active again.

Oh, by the way, I was also supposed to upload TLS 1.5 binaries and make 
them available for download, then modify the code to upload 1.5 instead of 
1.4, but I simply cannot do it, I just explained why. If someone can do 
it, I'll be forever grateful! (need to take into account 32-bit and 
64-bit, and maybe tcl/tk 1.4 and 1.5?) (If you don't have permission to 
upload files, just send them to me and I will do it)

I appreciate Karel's work on the GUI, I was frustrated at all these 
lengthy discussions about details so this is why I didn't answer. Then we 
had a conversation on PM, Karel, Youness, Alvaro and me (though I was 
mostly decorative there), which seems to have calmed things down, we 
agreed on something about minimize-on-close and, mostly, what Alvaro 
suggested: commit and let people argue after you commit :)

billiob had said he'd be inactive now because he's having some important 
exams. However, he's here ready for action whenever he has some time. He 
was ready to commit again today, just SF was down again. He's also doing a 
great job with support on IRC and the forums. Thanx a lot billiob, keep up 
:)

I also see a comeback from Fred - when I first joined the team, I didn't 
even know who he was (even after having been there for a while), and 
suddenly he ended up rewriting code. Go Fred!

I may have missed some people there, it's just the first that came to my 
mind. My general impression is that everyone is willing to do something if 
we ask them on PM and sometimes this motivates them to start working more 
and take initiative. I guess we are working too ad-hoc right now, and we 
need someone to take control of all tasks, keep a status report, assign 
tasks to people, otherwise we get lost and don't know what the next target 
is. I can't do this because I need experience on how aMSN's system works - 
after all, I am the newest team member. Maybe someone else in cooperation 
with Youness.

That's all for now. Sorry for the giant email...

Viv

On Tue, 9 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Finally, I'll be answering you..
 As I said, maybe we're in a vicious circle, people grew tired from reading
 endless discussions on the ML, and they stopepd working.. I remember when I
 first joined in, there was Alvaro, burger, and me.. and the instructions were
 simple do whatever you like, there was no discussions, no nothing, we did
 what we felt was right... but then of course, when we were more than 3 devels,
 it became impossible, and discussions over the ML were necessary, maybe that's
 what slowed people down...
 In my case, I'm really busy, I have work, school, and in my free time, I
 prefer to be with my girlfriend. I just finished my exams this week, and I
 might be able to get some more free time now (when my gf will be at work, I'll
 be home.. and *maybe* I will feel like coding instead of feeling like watching
 a movie). So basically, it's time..
 when it's not time (yes, if you want to, you can always find the time, but
 then you see the person you love, next to you, being bored, all alone, can you
 really leave her there for some code???), it's motivation... I don't like
 fixing bugs (I never did, even in the beginning, I did 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Added the following (requested by Youness):
1 - remove unnecessary output from libng, so people stop saying ouhh, it 
says can't find _plugin-init 
2 - enabling/disabling debug in libng is as easy as libng_debug = TRUE; so 
maybe add a EnableDebug DisableDebug functions in ::Webcamsn:: so people 
don't need to recompile with ./configure --enable-debug if they ever have 
a problem we need debug output from...

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- fix linflash
- fix webcam pause + reflector
- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in the
cache.
- finish proxy support
- remove unnecessary output from libng, so people stop saying ouhh, it 
says can't find _plugin-init
- enabling/disabling debug in libng is as easy as libng_debug = TRUE; so 
maybe add a EnableDebug DisableDebug functions in ::Webcamsn:: so people 
don't need to recompile with ./configure --enable-debug if they ever have 
a problem we need debug output from


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OT: nederlands (was: Re: [Amsn-devel] New additions)

2006-05-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Sander Hoentjen wrote:

 Now with those 2 additions, the recent study of vivia of the dutch
 language and the upcoming dutch summer of code i suggest we switch our
 main language to dutch :)

damn, I'm still stuck on Les 5 for a month or so because it's got 6 pages 
of luisteren... if I knew earlier I could settle it...

... then again, you all speak english, right? so dutch could be the 
secondary language. If we don't take the summer of code into account, 
french is also very likely to be the secondary language, so dutch is going 
to #3 . Oh and BTW, how many people speak spanish in here? Does this make 
dutch #4? :D

 
 On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 13:03 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Hi All,
  We have two new team members joining in the team, as I said in a previous  
  email, that was my intention for a long time, but they didn't even know...  
  now it is done, so please welcome :
  Harry Vennik and Jonne!!!
  Both of you guys have been helping us with the development of amsn for so  
  long and you've been doing a really great job guys, I think it is time for  
  you to join us officially, you both deserve it.
  
  Now.. as all of you know, when a new member is added he has to learn the  
  basics of being a developer.. which means, he needs to checkout CVS as  
  devel (they can manage, but still, most people try to make their exisitng  
  checkout as a devel, while it should be a fresh new checkout in an empty  
  dir, then diff, then patch if needed...), but also, they need to know the  
  system, how we work, how we organise ourselves (yeah, not much to say, but  
  still :P). I don't have the time or motivation for such an introduction,  
  so can anyone take care of that? Who knows Harry and Jonne and is willing  
  to do it?
  
  Welcome again!
  
  p.s.: Harry, you just sent a patch, right ? make that your first commit:)
 
 
 
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[Amsn-devel] Accept webcam on closed SB

2006-05-12 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

  - accept/reject webcam doesn't reopen the SB if it was closed.. 
messages should be queued until SB is open (one line of code to 
add...)

That's easy. I had done this for FTs, and for webcam it should be more or 
less the same. Just find the place on gui.tcl where you click 
Accept/Reject on a received webcam invitation, find the code that writes 
data to the SB, put in a helper proc if it's more than one line, and call 
ChatQueue with it. My helper proc is AcceptFTOpenSB if you want an 
example.

I can't do it right now, don't expect me to do any coding before next 
week, so who wants it??


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-14 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

 p.s.: Vivia, you didn't specify in your last email that you readded this 
 one. Also, can you test it because I thnk I found why it didn't work, 
 but I have no way to test it.

I specified it in an email I had sent before this one. But I didn't get 
any of these 2 emails!

Seems SF mailing lists are not sending all emails. I also missed some from 
amsn-lang and amsn-commits too. Weird.


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Removed:

- When going offline, set all CW users as offline (go offline, keep a CW
open, his status won't change.. that user goes offline, then you go online
again, his status in the CW will stay as online (or away/busy/whatever)
even if he's offline.. since we never get the notification of that user
going offline, his status will remain the same (in the CW only))


COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the cache.
- finish proxy support
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- Check if the 'View Profile' is working correctly, it seems to be broken.
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without any
smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where he
doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)
- add a different image for blocked users if they are offline, see post
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/
viewtopic.php?p=5062#5062 for more info
- 'make deb' doesn't work anymore apparently because of a libTclxml ..
strip: debian/amsn/usr/share/amsn/utils/Tclxml/libTclxml3.1.so: File
format not recognized
dh_strip: command returned error code 256
make[1]: *** [binary-arch] Error 1  -- It seems to be that the .so was
imported as ascii not binary... Phil fixed that issue for the default
skin's image files.. the same opration should be done for all binary files
(this .so, all the .dll, .dylib, etc..)
- It seems that we have a bug with some nicknames, see :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=993highlight= -- He
sent me the protocol log, and I see spaces in the LST, here it is :
[11:39:47] -ns-sock568 LST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-%20JuanCho%20%20-%20%20
%20...%20%20%20Hay%20alguien%20que%20te%20yendo%20o%20viniendo%20de%20U.S.A.%20?%20%20
%20%20- 11 2
You see the spaces? It might be MSN Plus! colored nicks with \x03 and
x04 or stuff like that, and the paste made them into spaces, I requested
the user to send me the file (instead of paste) so I can see the binary
value that is there.. this MUST be fixed before 0.96 as it's a critical
bug...
- make CL tooltips show faster


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Re: [Amsn-devel] make deb fix.

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 16 May 2006, David Ramsden wrote:

 It looks like you changed one of the wrong lines. I've attached a patch 
 between my working copy and the current SVN revision. Can you please 
 commit this?

OK. Thanx a lot! :)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Added:

- fix webcam pause + reflector -- Youness' fix doesn't work, we never 
send paused headers when using reflector

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the
cache.
- finish proxy support
- accept/reject webcam doesn't reopen the SB if it was closed.. messages
should be queued until SB is open (one line of code to add...)
- fix webcam pause + reflector -- Youness' fix doesn't work, we never
send paused headers when using reflector


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

damn SF lags. I fixed this for when going offline before I saw your 
email

 guess you need to sync the TODO now, after all emails decide to 
arrive?

On Mon, 15 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Modifed :
 - When going offline, set all CW users as offline (go offline, keep a CW
 open, his status won't change.. that user goes offline, then you go online
 again, his status in the CW will stay as online (or away/busy/whatever)
 even if he's offline.. since we never get the notification of that user
 going offline, his status will remain the same (in the CW only))
 INTO
 - When going online, update all chat window's status bar, and when receiving
 user is offline error from the SB, update the status window of the CW (go
 offline, keep a CW
 open, status of the user won't change.. that user goes offline, then you go
 online
 again, his status in the CW will stay as online (or away/busy/whatever)
 even if he's offline.. since we never get the notification of that user
 going offline, the FLN was sent when we were offline ourselves, so we never
 got it, so we never updated its CW status bar)
 
 COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96
 
 - maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
 the cache.
 - finish proxy support
 - Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
 - Check if the 'View Profile' is working correctly, it seems to be broken.
 - anigifs are still not working correctly, see
 http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
 working.
 - TkCximage optimization
 - When going online, update all chat window's status bar, and when receiving
 user is offline error from the SB, update the status window of the CW (go
 offline, keep a CW
 open, status of the user won't change.. that user goes offline, then you go
 online
 again, his status in the CW will stay as online (or away/busy/whatever)
 even if he's offline.. since we never get the notification of that user
 going offline, the FLN was sent when we were offline ourselves, so we never
 got it, so we never updated its CW status bar)
 - add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
 (seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without any
 smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where he
 doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)
 - add a different image for blocked users if they are offline, see post
 http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/
 viewtopic.php?p=5062#5062 for more info
 - Update nudge plugin to include 'Doki's' patch :
 http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=956
 - 'make deb' doesn't work anymore apparently because of a libTclxml ..
 strip: debian/amsn/usr/share/amsn/utils/Tclxml/libTclxml3.1.so: File
 format not recognized
 dh_strip: command returned error code 256
 make[1]: *** [binary-arch] Error 1  -- It seems to be that the .so was
 imported as ascii not binary... Phil fixed that issue for the default
 skin's image files.. the same opration should be done for all binary files
 (this .so, all the .dll, .dylib, etc..)
 - It seems that we have a bug with some nicknames, see :
 http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=993highlight= -- He
 sent me the protocol log, and I see spaces in the LST, here it is :
 [11:39:47] -ns-sock568 LST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -%20JuanCho%20%20-%20%20
 %20...%20%20%20Hay%20alguien%20que%20te%20yendo%20o%20viniendo%20de%20U.S.A.%20?%20%20
 %20%20- 11 2
 You see the spaces? It might be MSN Plus! colored nicks with \x03 and
 x04 or stuff like that, and the paste made them into spaces, I requested
 the user to send me the file (instead of paste) so I can see the binary
 value that is there.. this MUST be fixed before 0.96 as it's a critical
 bug...
 - the 'minimize to Tray' menu option doesn't minimize to tray, it only
 minimizes to the taskbar (maybe because I didn't have the 'close button
 minimizes' enabled before...
 - The 'X' in the titlebar should NOT quit without a confirmation message.
 We should have a confirmation dialog that allows minimizng to tray with a
 don't ask again option.
 - The menus currently have a lot of TODO in them, these should be
 implemented.
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Removed:

- accept/reject webcam doesn't reopen the SB if it was closed.. messages
should be queued until SB is open (one line of code to add...)

(billiob's code, he hadn't committed though because of the 
extra-switch-pattern bug)

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the cache.
- finish proxy support
- fix webcam pause + reflector -- Youness' fix doesn't work, we never
send paused headers when using reflector



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Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn-svn don't log users' DP ?

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

You should have asked on the forum, and if it's not there, we can reply. 
Anyway: disable Chameleon plugin

On Tue, 16 May 2006, Max wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'am using amsn svn, freshly updated from 10 minutes ago and it looks like
 amsn is not loggin anymore the users' DP... when i go on the contact
 proprieties and then on the User DP tab, i only see the user current's DP,
 even if he just changed it a few secs ago right in front of me.
 
 Is that normal behavior, does the new patch is not working yet?
 
 ps: i might be in the wrong place... i didn't felt like using the SF bug
 tracker (i lost my password and i kinda don't really like SF.net for its
 slowness) or the forum as i didn't found any appropriate section (i don't
 think the bug is linux specific) for bug report. tell me if i'm wrong and
 sorry for that by advance ;)
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed:

- Update nudge plugin to include 'Doki's' patch :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=956


COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the cache.
- finish proxy support
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- Check if the 'View Profile' is working correctly, it seems to be broken.
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- When going offline, set all CW users as offline (go offline, keep a CW
open, his status won't change.. that user goes offline, then you go online
again, his status in the CW will stay as online (or away/busy/whatever)
even if he's offline.. since we never get the notification of that user
going offline, his status will remain the same (in the CW only))
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without any
smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where he
doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)
- add a different image for blocked users if they are offline, see post
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/
viewtopic.php?p=5062#5062 for more info
- 'make deb' doesn't work anymore apparently because of a libTclxml ..
strip: debian/amsn/usr/share/amsn/utils/Tclxml/libTclxml3.1.so: File
format not recognized
dh_strip: command returned error code 256
make[1]: *** [binary-arch] Error 1  -- It seems to be that the .so was
imported as ascii not binary... Phil fixed that issue for the default
skin's image files.. the same opration should be done for all binary files
(this .so, all the .dll, .dylib, etc..)
- It seems that we have a bug with some nicknames, see :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=993highlight= -- He
sent me the protocol log, and I see spaces in the LST, here it is :
[11:39:47] -ns-sock568 LST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-%20JuanCho%20%20-%20%20
%20...%20%20%20Hay%20alguien%20que%20te%20yendo%20o%20viniendo%20de%20U.S.A.%20?%20%20
%20%20- 11 2
You see the spaces? It might be MSN Plus! colored nicks with \x03 and
x04 or stuff like that, and the paste made them into spaces, I requested
the user to send me the file (instead of paste) so I can see the binary
value that is there.. this MUST be fixed before 0.96 as it's a critical
bug...
- make CL tooltips show faster


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

 Also, can you test it because I thnk I found why it didn't work, but I 
 have no way to test it.

Works :)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] make deb fix.

2006-05-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Thanx, Committed

On Mon, 15 May 2006, David Ramsden wrote:

 Hi,
 
 To fix the make deb error that was added to the TO-DO list earlier,
 edit debian/rules. The dh_strip and dh_shlibdeps lines need to be
 changed to exclude libTclxml3.1.so because this shared object is
 provided already stripped.
 
 dh_strip -XlibTclxml3.1.so
 dh_shlibdeps -XlibTclxml3.1.so
 
 Regards,
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Re: [Amsn-devel] tkcximage

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Try www.mail-archive.org :)

On Wed, 17 May 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 Hi,
 
 it seems like mail archives in SF hasn't been reconstructed yet or
 something... I can't access them...
 
 Phil, how's the tkcximage optimization status? what was the job to be done?
 
 Thx,
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] tkcximage

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Oups. Sorry, wrong address. It's .com not .org :D

On Wed, 17 May 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 windows drivers downloads???
 
 On 5/17/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try www.mail-archive.org :)
 
  On Wed, 17 May 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   it seems like mail archives in SF hasn't been reconstructed yet or
   something... I can't access them...
  
   Phil, how's the tkcximage optimization status? what was the job to be
   done?
  
   Thx,
  
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[Amsn-devel] New menus on Mac

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?t=8071


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Re: [Amsn-devel] amsn-commits, credits, CIA ... Fwd: [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [6595] trunk/amsn/CREDITS

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

16:02  CIA-5 New Commit: billiob * r6642 /trunk/amsn/msnp2p.tcl: fix a 
typo on 603 Decline in msnslp

CIA WORKS !!! :)))

On Tue, 16 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Noone received/noticed/saw/read this email ? we should fix CIA!
 KKRT
 
 On Sat, 13 May 2006 20:54:30 -0400, Youness Alaoui
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 yahoo, it worked now!
 amsn-commits is working again...
 btw, i took a look at the latest commits that were done, and wow, cool, great
 work you all! we're active again! :)
 btw, Jonne, could you add yourself with your full name in the CREDITS file ?
 and one last thing.. we need to update CIA...
 http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/amsn/.metadata I don't have the 'key' to be
 able to set it up, so could the person who did that take care of it, this way
 it will be able to pick up the SVN commits!
 thanx!
 KKRT
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [6595] trunk/amsn/CREDITS
 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 20:30:42 -0400
 
 Revision: 6595
 Author:   kakaroto
 Date: 2006-05-13 17:30:40 -0700 (Sat, 13 May 2006)
 ViewCVS:  http://svn.sourceforge.net/amsn/?rev=6595view=rev
 
 Log Message:
 ---
 Added Harry and Vivia as developers and removed them from the contributers
 section. Also moved Aitor from
 devel to contributer.
 RESYNCED amsn-commits hook, I hope the mail will get through this time!!!
 
 Modified Paths:
 --
  trunk/amsn/CREDITS
 Modified: trunk/amsn/CREDITS
 ===
 --- trunk/amsn/CREDITS   2006-05-13 23:08:06 UTC (rev 6594)
 +++ trunk/amsn/CREDITS   2006-05-14 00:30:40 UTC (rev 6595)
 @@ -26,10 +26,10 @@
   Phil - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sander Hoentjen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Frederic Diaz - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -Mark - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Karel Demeyer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +Vivia Nikolaidou - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +Harry Vennik - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Didimo E. Grimaldo T.
 -Aitor R. de Samaniego (Code contributions)
 
 
   
 @@ -360,7 +360,7 @@
   R. Braun (TLS for NetBSD-Sparc64)
   Badlop (NSIS Windows Installer)
   Thomas Geirhovd (Skin manager)
 -Vivia Nikolaidou
 +Aitor R. de Samaniego (Code contributions)
   Yves Manuel (Hosted the forums and helped with the new website)
   ZoRoNaX (Documentation on MSNP2P)
 
 @@ -368,4 +368,4 @@
   Ole Andre Vadla Ravnas - Special thanx for the libmimic implementation of
   webcam codec
   XawTV Team (providing the libng library for accessing webcam devices
   easily)
   GrdScarabe for his great documentation/FAQ/translation work and
   contributions
 -Harry Vennik for his many contributions and design help.
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[Amsn-devel] SELinux nightmares

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Well, so I decided to make aMSN use TLS 1.50 ...

I tried Sander's rpm with rpm2targz but it didn't work, failed on some .so 
I didn't have. I tried compiling one on my pc, sent it to Jonne, didn't 
work. We decided to make it link statically, and after hours of sweating, 
Jonne found the way to do it:

./configure --with-ssl-dir=/usr
make
gcc -pipe -shared -o libtls1.50.so tls.o tlsIO.o tlsBIO.o tlsX509.o fixstrtod.o 
-Wl,-Bstatic -lssl -lcrypto -Wl,-Bdynamic

This produced a non-working .so on him and a working .so on me :

bash-3.00$ cd tls1.50/
bash-3.00$ ldd libtls-1.50.so 
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7d19000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

Just like the .so from 1.4 . I sent him my .so and now SELinux gives him 
an error:

Cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied

The solution is to run chcon on the .so as root, but I can't find an easy 
way to force everyone who is using SELinux to do so.

ANY IDEAS?

If you want, I have uploaded what I have so far on

http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/tls-1.5.0-linux-x86.tar.gz


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Added:

- Custom states not saved on disconnect/reconnect

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the cache.
- finish proxy support
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- Check if the 'View Profile' is working correctly, it seems to be broken.
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without any
smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where he
doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)
- Make sure all binary files in SVN were added as binary, not as ASCII.
This is to avoid data corruption.
- It seems that we have a bug with some nicknames, see :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=993highlight= -- He
sent me the protocol log, and I see spaces in the LST, here it is :
[11:39:47] -ns-sock568 LST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-%20JuanCho%20%20-%20%20
%20...%20%20%20Hay%20alguien%20que%20te%20yendo%20o%20viniendo%20de%20U.S.A.%20?%20%20
%20%20- 11 2
You see the spaces? It might be MSN Plus! colored nicks with \x03 and
x04 or stuff like that, and the paste made them into spaces, I requested
the user to send me the file (instead of paste) so I can see the binary
value that is there.. this MUST be fixed before 0.96 as it's a critical
bug... -- file contains \x20 == spaces! I added the user to my list and
waiting for him to accept me to finally see what's wrong with his nick on
my own pc...
- the 'minimize to Tray' menu option doesn't minimize to tray, it only
minimizes to the taskbar (maybe because I didn't have the 'close button
minimizes' enabled before...
- The 'X' in the titlebar should NOT quit without a confirmation message.
We should have a confirmation dialog that allows minimizng to tray with a
don't ask again option.
- The menus currently have a lot of TODO in them, these should be
implemented.
- make CL tooltips show faster
- Make PSM under the nick as stated, not under the DP..
- Make PSM bold/italic/whatever in tooltip ? same with email ?
- Custom states not saved on disconnect/reconnect


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[Amsn-devel] test

2006-05-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Testing sending from new email address + forward magic


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Re: [Amsn-devel] tls

2006-05-26 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Good idea,

btw, conclusion about SELinux and tls 1.5 ? We can:

a) let SELinux users install Sander's RPM and offer the static build instead
b) have two options: Linux (static build) and Linux (dynamic build) or
something similar

or... any better ideas?

PS: am I slowly getting active again? :)

On 5/26/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 as you probably know, the tls autodownloader isn't working for some time
 now because the URL for the download is to a mirror which is not working
 anymore...
 So.. if we change the mirror, we might get the same problem some other
 time, so how about we do this instead
 http://amsn.sf.net/download-tls.php?platform=win32
 and it will automatically choose a different mirror each time and redirect
 to it.
 in case this one fails (because SF web servers are down more often than sf
 file releases mirrors), then use a hardcoded URL for a mirror (or random
 between a few hardcoded ones).
 Advantage is that if we had done this in the first time, then we probably
 would have been able to make amsn users download tls 1.5 without releasing
 a new version nor having the users update their amsn version.
 What do you think? shall it be done ?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] webcam is not released after using it

2006-05-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Always works perfectly with ov511, tested thousands of times on my
side. Another person with spca5xx also confirmed that webcam is
released correctly.

So let's just assume it's a pwc bug? :)

On 5/28/06, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 About 'webcam not released': I can confirm this is true, and have already
 searched through the code for the reason why this happens. It *might* be
 related to the change from getimage() to nextframe(), but I am not at all
 sure. Because all necessary calls seem to be done correctly, which is
 approved by the fact that we have not had this complaint often yet (so
 apparently things work well with other webcam drivers), I think it is a pwc
 driver bug (not the first one eh...).

 I proofed that there is actually done a close() on the device:

 vid-open: trying: v4l2...
 v4l2: open
 v4l2: init
 v4l2: device info:
   pwc 10.0.11 / Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 @ usb-:00:10.2-2
 v4l2: close
 vid-open: ok: v4l2
 vid-open: flags: 2
 v4l2: open
 ng_dev_open: opened Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 [refcount 1]
 v4l2: new capture params (320x240, YU12, 115200 byte)
 convert-in : 320x240 12 bit YUV 4:2:0 (planar)
 convert-out: 320x240 24 bit TrueColor (BE: rgb)
 v4l2: buf 0: video-cap 0x0+460800, used 115200
 v4l2: buf 1: video-cap 0x71000+460800, used 115200
 v4l2: start ts=1148814415628311000
 v4l2: buf 0: video-cap 0x0+115200, used 115200
 v4l2: buf 1: video-cap 0x71000+115200, used 115200
 v4l2: close
 ng_dev_close: closed Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 [refcount 0]
 v4l2: fini

 The line of code printing 'v4l2: close' is right before the actual close() in
 the code.


 Op zondag 28 mei 2006 11:54, schreef Sander Hoentjen:
  corellian if I stop sending my webcam (using pwc driver), aMSN still reads
  or uses /dev/v4l/video0 corellian until I reset aMSN
  corellian that means, I only can send webcam one time, then I have to reset
  aMSN to send to another person, or send again to the same person. corellian
  that's the 'lsof' output, when I'm not sending webcam, but I've used it:
  corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   CHR   81,0
  44270654 /dev/v4l/video0 corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   REG
 3,873472 845256
  /home/corellian/amsn/utils/linux/capture/libng/plugins/drv0-v4l2.so
  corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   REG3,844960
  845259 /home/corellian/amsn/utils/linux/capture/libng/plugins/drv1-v4l.so
  corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   REG3,885852
  845236 /home/corellian/amsn/utils/webcamsn/webcamsn.so * march1980 has quit
  (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  corellian and, when I send and receive, sometimes says that's rejected, but
  that's not rejected/cancelled! corellian well I hope any devel will read
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Re: [Amsn-devel] webcam is not released after using it

2006-05-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Follow GrdScarabe's instructions to get older SVNs and try to see when
the bug appeared this might help us understand where it comes
from. :)

On 5/28/06, Cristian Peraferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well not so fast... I was using the stable 10.0.12 pwc driver for a several
 time, and I never experimented that issue. Today I've tested it with the
 (old) 10.0.12 again (nowadays I use the most recent snapshot), and the issue
 now appears!, with the actual aMSN. So I think it's not a pwc driver bug,
 because in the past (when I was using stable pwc), this bug was not present,
 but now, with the actual aMSN, it is (using the same stable pwc driver I've
 used in the past).

 On Sunday 28 May 2006 13:30, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  Always works perfectly with ov511, tested thousands of times on my
  side. Another person with spca5xx also confirmed that webcam is
  released correctly.
 
  So let's just assume it's a pwc bug? :)
 
  On 5/28/06, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   About 'webcam not released': I can confirm this is true, and have already
   searched through the code for the reason why this happens. It *might* be
   related to the change from getimage() to nextframe(), but I am not at all
   sure. Because all necessary calls seem to be done correctly, which is
   approved by the fact that we have not had this complaint often yet (so
   apparently things work well with other webcam drivers), I think it is a
   pwc driver bug (not the first one eh...).
  
   I proofed that there is actually done a close() on the device:
  
   vid-open: trying: v4l2...
   v4l2: open
   v4l2: init
   v4l2: device info:
 pwc 10.0.11 / Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 @ usb-:00:10.2-2
   v4l2: close
   vid-open: ok: v4l2
   vid-open: flags: 2
   v4l2: open
   ng_dev_open: opened Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 [refcount 1]
   v4l2: new capture params (320x240, YU12, 115200 byte)
   convert-in : 320x240 12 bit YUV 4:2:0 (planar)
   convert-out: 320x240 24 bit TrueColor (BE: rgb)
   v4l2: buf 0: video-cap 0x0+460800, used 115200
   v4l2: buf 1: video-cap 0x71000+460800, used 115200
   v4l2: start ts=1148814415628311000
   v4l2: buf 0: video-cap 0x0+115200, used 115200
   v4l2: buf 1: video-cap 0x71000+115200, used 115200
   v4l2: close
   ng_dev_close: closed Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 [refcount 0]
   v4l2: fini
  
   The line of code printing 'v4l2: close' is right before the actual
   close() in the code.
  
   Op zondag 28 mei 2006 11:54, schreef Sander Hoentjen:
corellian if I stop sending my webcam (using pwc driver), aMSN still
reads or uses /dev/v4l/video0 corellian until I reset aMSN
corellian that means, I only can send webcam one time, then I have to
reset aMSN to send to another person, or send again to the same person.
corellian that's the 'lsof' output, when I'm not sending webcam, but
I've used it: corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   CHR
81,0
44270654 /dev/v4l/video0 corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem
REG 3,873472 845256
/home/corellian/amsn/utils/linux/capture/libng/plugins/drv0-v4l2.so
corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   REG3,844960
845259
/home/corellian/amsn/utils/linux/capture/libng/plugins/drv1-v4l.so
corellian wish  29227 corellian  mem   REG3,885852
845236 /home/corellian/amsn/utils/webcamsn/webcamsn.so * march1980 has
quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
corellian and, when I send and receive, sometimes says that's rejected,
but that's not rejected/cancelled! corellian well I hope any devel will
read this :S
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
 - finish proxy support

is this done now? (Congrats Youness, give me your home address so I
can send you choco :D:D:D:D:D )

 - Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5

I didn't understand what we decided for that :S we include tls in amsn
for those who compile from source or use autopackage and create
separate packages (with dependencies) for those who use packaging
systems? I missed something, sorry...

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed:
- finish proxy support -- thanx Youness! :)
- amsn-remote server is created with [socket -server localhost] so we can
never connect to amsn remotely unless we ssh first to our machine (server
is on the loopback device), problem with windows too.. socket should
listen to all ips. -- done

Modified:

- make CL tooltips show faster
INTO
- make CL tooltips show faster -- Pending, please check timeout and
commit for 0_96

- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without
any smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where
he doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)
INTO
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without
any smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where
he doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..) -- Pending,
waiting for feedback from person interested before committing to 0_96

- The menus currently have a lot of TODO in them, these should be
implemented.
INTO
- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- Make sure all binary files in SVN were added as binary, not as ASCII.
* Was removed, but is it really done for www module???

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories
in the cache.
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without
any smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where
he doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)  -- Pending,
waiting for feedback from person interested before committing to 0_96
- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO
- make CL tooltips show faster -- Pending, please check timeout and
commit for 0_96
- Make PSM under the nick as stated, not under the DP..

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Drag'n'Drop in 0.96?

2006-05-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
No, it is now added to the core, we just need tkdnd to be installed

On 5/30/06, Thomas Geirhovd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Will the next release have drag and drop support? I'm asking because I
 have a D'n'D plugin in my queue, and I was wondering if I should add
 it to the website or not.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Drag'n'Drop in 0.96?

2006-05-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
yes but we need tkdnd to be installed separately. :)

On 5/30/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/amsn-0.96$ grep dnd *
 chatwindow.tcl: ::dnd bindtarget [::ChatWindow::GetInputText $w]
 Files Drop ::ChatWindow::HandleFileDrop $w %D
 chatwindow.tcl: #::dnd bindtarget [::ChatWindow::GetInputText $w]
 UniformResourceLocator Drop %W insert end %D
 chatwindow.tcl: ::dnd bindtarget [::ChatWindow::GetInputText $w]
 Text Drop {%W insert end %D}
 gui.tcl:if {[catch {package require tkdnd}] } {
 gui.tcl:proc dnd { args } {}


 the plugin was instead merged with the core. You can drop it, unless it's
 0.95 compatible in which case maybe some 0.95 users would want it... in
 which case, a note in the description should say it is for 0.95 and not
 0.96 as 0.96 supports drag'n'drop by deafult.

 Thanks for asking,
 KaKaRoTo


 On Mon, 29 May 2006 17:22:28 -0400, Thomas Geirhovd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Will the next release have drag and drop support? I'm asking because I
  have a D'n'D plugin in my queue, and I was wondering if I should add
  it to the website or not.
 



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed:
- add skin option for automatically adding default skin's smiley set
(seems defaut smileys are always there so a skin settings.xml without
any smiley tag will get the default smileys, but someone has a skin where
he doesn't want to keep the default smileys at all..)  -- Pending,
waiting for feedback from person interested before committing to 0_96

Modified:
- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO
Into:
- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO -- Pending: Now opens a
browser to the forum (not tracker because it can be any kind of
feedback, even positive feedback [yeah right :D] or a question already
answered!), if this is OK (Youness doesn't yell until tonight :D) I
commit to branch

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- Make sure all binary files in SVN were added as binary, not as ASCII.
* Was removed, but is it really done for www module???

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories
in the cache.
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO -- Pending: Now opens a
browser to the forum (not tracker because it can be any kind of
feedback, even positive feedback [yeah right :D] or a question already
answered!), if this is OK (Youness doesn't yell until tonight :D) I
commit to branch
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-05-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed:

- Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO -- Pending: Now opens a
browser to the forum (not tracker because it can be any kind of
feedback, even positive feedback [yeah right :D] or a question already
answered!), if this is OK (Youness doesn't yell until tonight :D) I
commit to branch

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- Make sure all binary files in SVN were added as binary, not as ASCII.
* Was removed, but is it really done for www module???

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories
in the cache.
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
working.
- TkCximage optimization
- Make PSM under the nick as stated, not under the DP..


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-01 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed: (Was removed but got lost due to sync troubles)

  - Implement Send Feedback from Help TODO -- Pending: Now opens a
  browser to the forum (not tracker because it can be any kind of
  feedback, even positive feedback [yeah right :D] or a question already
  answered!), if this is OK (Youness doesn't yell until tonight :D) I
  commit to branch

Removed:'s

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories
in the cache.
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
- anigifs are still not working correctly, see
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=853 for an anigif not
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-02 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Added:

- Pause webcam works but resume doesn't

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users.
- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
the cache.
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-02 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Removed:

- Pause webcam works but resume doesn't

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users.
- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email directories in
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[Amsn-devel] Connection Status plugin

2006-06-03 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Well... I just made an ugly plugin - in case aMSN incorrectly detects
your firewalled status, you can manually set it (I have the problem
both at home and at the lab!). Don't make it public, but if you want
it for personal use, here it goes:
http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/conn_status.zip


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[Amsn-devel] Resume webcam on reflector (was: Re: 0.96 TODO)

2006-06-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
 which means, if we receive the reflector's ACK, we'll go through all
 switch cases, won't find TSP_PAUSED, so it goes into default, which sets
 the state as END, closes the socket, and basta... so next time we 'resume'
 it, we won't be able to send on a closed socket... the readfromsock and
 writetosock proc will never get called because the $sock is closed...

That's what I thought (today after I woke up, hehe), but it behaves
slightly differently: The receiver actually does receive the first
frame after the pause, so the $sock doesn't get closed either (Maybe
catch fails but we never know it does?). Anyway I'll see that. Thanx.
:)

 p.s.: re-reminding you to not forget to revert back the wrong change as
 it's really important

I know :) just that I'm leaving it for now because it somehow works!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Resume webcam on reflector (was: Re: 0.96 TODO)

2006-06-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
  which means, if we receive the reflector's ACK, we'll go through all
  switch cases, won't find TSP_PAUSED, so it goes into default, which sets
  the state as END, closes the socket, and basta... so next time we 'resume'
  it, we won't be able to send on a closed socket... the readfromsock and
  writetosock proc will never get called because the $sock is closed...

 That's what I thought (today after I woke up, hehe), but it behaves
 slightly differently: The receiver actually does receive the first
 frame after the pause, so the $sock doesn't get closed either (Maybe
 catch fails but we never know it does?). Anyway I'll see that. Thanx.
 :)

I guess the catch did fail after all. Did just this and it worked.
Committed :) chokran!


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[Amsn-devel] IceWM crashes

2006-06-07 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1124

traydock changes, i suppose?


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[Amsn-devel] sxml slow

2006-06-07 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1102

I just tracked the version with svn, and I found out that the version
6789 loads quite fast, and 6790 very very slow.
And the only change between them is sxml.tcl

Now I think it is up to you to see what may be lagging the load for it...


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Re: [Amsn-devel] remind plugin?

2006-06-08 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 Hi,
 
 what happened with remind plugin, which lived in CVS if i recall 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] remind plugin?

2006-06-08 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/8/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But how do i enable it? can't find the option! :(

Just get latest SVN and it's there by default!

 On 6/8/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   what happened with remind plugin, which lived in CVS if i recall
   correctly?
 
  It is now a core plugin :)
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] remind plugin?

2006-06-08 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/8/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry but it isn't enabled here (i don't see latest history lines when
 opening a chat), and i don't find any option to enable it. Using
 latest SVN (debianized through make deb).

Hmm, check the makefile, maybe it misses the plugin?

 On 6/8/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/8/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But how do i enable it? can't find the option! :(
 
  Just get latest SVN and it's there by default!
 
   On 6/8/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:
   
 Hi,

 what happened with remind plugin, which lived in CVS if i recall
 correctly?
   
It is now a core plugin :)
   
   
   
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Re: [Amsn-devel] remind plugin?

2006-06-09 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 and..commit this last patch? :P

ok. done. :)

 
 On 6/9/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  don't worry, I know it's not your fault, but I was suprised at the way it
  is...
 
  On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:39:21 -0400, Rafael Rodríguez
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 6/9/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   wtf... it shouldn't be this way, it should be plugins/ and that's it,
   just
   like what we do with skins, this way, if a packager wants to include a
   custom skin or plugin in his rpm or whatever, it will be included...
   Please remove the plugins/* and replace by plugins/
  
   Not my fault, it was already that way when i modified it :P
  
   --- Makefile.in.old 2006-06-04 14:53:53 +0100
   +++ Makefile.in 2006-06-09 00:23:50 +0100
   @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
FILES_TO_INSTALL += icons lang skins utils/base64 utils/drawboard
   utils/framec utils/http2.4
FILES_TO_INSTALL += utils/pixmapscroll utils/pixmapmenu
   utils/contentmanager
FILES_TO_INSTALL += utils/scalable-bg utils/sha1 utils/snit
   utils/BWidget-1.7.0 utils/dpbrowser
   -FILES_TO_INSTALL += plugins/inkdraw plugins/Nudge plugins/WebcamShooter
   +FILES_TO_INSTALL += plugins
FILES_TO_INSTALL += utils/tclsoap1.6.7 utils/log utils/uri
   utils/tcldom utils/Tclxml utils/combobox
  
FILES_TO_EXCLUDE := lang/genpage.c lang/addkey.tcl lang/lang1.tmpl
   lang/lang2.tmpl lang/lang3.tmpl lang/langchk.sh lang/complete.pl
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Re: [Amsn-devel] ML still working ?

2006-06-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:06:12 -0400, Youness Alaoui  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  yes ? no ?
 
 
 YES.
 SO WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYBODY :@

I just woke up. Good morning!

Seriously, we have an empty TODO-list, so this can explain all the 
inactivity. How about RC1 now?


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Re: [Amsn-devel] ML still working ?

2006-06-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Max wrote:

 I see at least one thing missing (imho) in the TODO-list and it is a bug 
 fix for the pwc webcam's drivers. It was working perfectly before but it 
 stopped working after 6511 (i checked). (i'am talking about the not 
 released webcam).

Thanx!! :)

(BTW, bugfixes can be made between 2 RC releases)

Here's the diff - hope you (or someone else) can find a fix for that:

--- utils/linux/capture/capture.c   (revision 6510)
+++ utils/linux/capture/capture.c   (revision 6511)
@@ -480,6 +480,8 @@
 captureItem-rgb_buffer = ng_malloc_video_buf(captureItem-dev, 
captureItem-fmt);
   }
   
+  captureItem-dev.v-startvideo(captureItem-dev.handle, 25, 1);
+  
   Tcl_SetObjResult(interp, 
Tcl_NewStringObj(captureItem-captureName,-1));
   
   return TCL_OK;
@@ -506,6 +508,8 @@
 return TCL_ERROR;
   }
   
+  capItem-dev.v-stopvideo(capItem-handle);
+  
   // If a converter was used, close it and release the rgb_buffer
   if (capItem-handle) {
 ng_process_fini(capItem-handle);
@@ -607,7 +611,7 @@
   // - High resolution
   // - Low resolution
   for (dim_idx = resolution;;) {
-if ((capItem-image_data = 
capItem-dev.v-getimage(capItem-dev.handle)) == NULL) {
+if ((capItem-image_data = 
capItem-dev.v-nextframe(capItem-dev.handle)) == NULL) {
 #   ifdef DEBUG
   fprintf(stderr,Capturing image failed at %d, %d\n, fmt.width, 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
We only have bugfixes for 0.96 ... youness knows what has to be done
for msn8 FT, phil has gotten the pwc bug, tomhennigan reproduced the
memleak, and the cancel signin shouldn't be difficult, right? So we're
getting close!

Apart from this, only bugfixes are left, which means we can release
RC1! I spoke to Youness and these are his instructions:

If anyone has an important new feature to be added, please add it NOW.
Otherwise, RC1 will be released on Wednesday! Also, try to find more
bugs and add them to the TODO - these are the known ones.

Now, the TODO!

Removed:

- maybe apply holy_wood patch for saving DPs in a per_email
directories in the cache (Nobody volunteered for this so...)
- Make amsn 0.96 use TLS 1.5 (Sander: dank je wel!)

Added:

- pwc driver bug with cam not released
- cancel signin gets activated as soon as we press Log in, not when we
get the answer from nexus
- mac memleak when sending cam

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users.
- pwc driver bug with cam not released
- cancel signin gets activated as soon as we press Log in, not when we
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[Amsn-devel] Big Mac Memleak FIXED!

2006-06-14 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Hi everyone!

 Yes... I admit I was stupid... I admit I did cause the Big Mac
Memleak (and an identical one on Windows, strange how nobody
complained!). BUT... now it's FIXED!!!

Tom Hennigan just found that it was on either r6318 or r6319, which
were both mine... while he was trying out r6318, I told Jonne who
looked at the diff and realized I was stupid enough to actually start
a NEW grabber for each frame we grabbed!!! THANX to both of you :):):)
and a huge apology from my part for being so careless...

But now it's FIXED and COMMITTED, and Tom H just tested it, and it
works perfectly :)

Offering champagne / chocolate / fruit juice (I recommend sour cherry
 banana) / beer for everyone :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: [Amsn-devel] release

2006-06-15 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/15/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 cool! :)
 btw, you're not agreeing with me, you're agreeing with SVN philosophy and
 with O'Reilly's book :D
 about your idea you PMed me, releasing a 0.95.90 version as the RC...
 yeah... might work... but would be too confusing for the users... I
 suggest to keep it 0.96RC1 but maybe have a
 set ::version 0.96RC1
 set ::rc_version 0.95.90

 in autoupdate {
 set version $::version
 if [info exists ::rc_version] set version $::rc_version
 ..
 }

 so, one internal rc version for the autoupdater only, completly
 transparent to the user...
 makes it easier for all of us.. as I said, the software should work it
 out, not the user try not to get confused...

 what do you think ?

that's what I thought too, let the autoupdater understand that 0.96RC1
 0.96 somehow. But this needs someone to code it :)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] release

2006-06-15 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
I spoke to Alvaro on PM, but he had to run, so I'm writing here instead of him:

 1) now we have to update the version in the amsn file.. what should it
 become? More generally, what will this release be?
 0.96rc1 followed by rc2, then rc..., then 0.96
 or 0.96 followed by 0.96.1, etc
 i would say the second, because if we don't have critical bugs, we don't
 want to make another release that is essentially the same, and it is
 weird in my opinion to have 0.96rc2 followed by a 0.97 release.
 to be short with rc then you have to make as much rc's until there are
 no more bugs, and then make another release that is only a namechange
 from rc to normal. With the .bugfix releases none of these problems
 exist, and computers will have an easier time to understand what version
 is newer.

[16:22:27] Álvaro (#) better
[16:22:30] Álvaro (#) 0.95.99
[16:22:32] Álvaro (#) then 0.95.999
[16:22:40] Álvaro (#) that way it doesn't look like 0.96 yet
[16:22:43] Álvaro (#) i mean
[16:22:45] Álvaro (#) if it's 0.96.1
[16:22:52] Álvaro (#) people won't see it as a rc

 3) do we create a tag for this release in svn? (A tag and a branch are
 the same in svn, technically) So does it have any benefits to create a
 tag, when we already have a 0.96 branch, which we can check out by
 revision number, if bugfixes later are done in this branch.

[16:25:31] Álvaro (#) but it's better just tag 0.96
[16:25:39] Álvaro (#) than branch 0.96+revision number xxx981984934x
[16:25:47] Álvaro (#) isn't it? :D
[16:25:52] Álvaro (#) a tag is a finished branch
[16:26:05] Álvaro (#) i think it should be tagged anyways
[16:26:13] Álvaro (#) that way you can always check the list of tags
[16:26:17] Álvaro (#) and see what versions were released

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Added:
- View history when logging on with default profile :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1193

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users.
- cancel signin gets activated as soon as we press Log in, not when we
get the answer from nexus
- huge 'sockets' memleak :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6513#6513
- View history when logging on with default profile :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1193


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Re: [Amsn-devel] release

2006-06-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
  2) are all binaries updated?
 
  Why not?

Phil just checked, Windows binaries are OK.

Tom H, can you double check Mac binaries? I need to run now.

--

Also someone PLEASE test if 0.95  0.96b  0.96RC1  0.96 , ok?

/me is off


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Big Mac Memleak FIXED!

2006-06-16 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/14/06, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Il giorno mer, 14/06/2006 alle 16.21 +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou ha scritto:

  Hi everyone!
 
   Yes... I admit I was stupid... I admit I did cause the Big Mac
  Memleak (and an identical one on Windows, strange how nobody
  complained!). BUT... now it's FIXED!!!

 How about the Mac Chicken memleak? LOL
 When I read this first I thought of an hamburger :P
 (what a strange nickname for a bug)
 lol

lol yeah, i know, i intentionally named it like that BTW, Mac
Chicken memleak... a memleak that tjikkun introduced for Macs? :D


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Re: [Amsn-devel] release

2006-06-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/15/06, Boris Faure (aka billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 5) Send a mail to language translators so that they'll update the
 languages files.
 For 0.95, a mail was sent.
 Or do we release the 0.96 branch as it is right now, because languages
 are easily updated, so it's that much useful.

Exactly, and after all it's not a final release. Just my 2 cents
though - does anyone disagree?


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[Amsn-devel] A patch for the chatwindow

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

http://www.luyer.net/amsn-cut-paste.patch.txt


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[Amsn-devel] 0.96 RC1 tarball

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~vivia/amsn-0.96RC1.tar.gz

just an export from the tag, hope nothing's missing?


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Re: [Amsn-devel] just marketing

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Resending from correct address:

On 6/18/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I took them from there actually, between other places. BTW, do u mind if i
 post your link to rc1, or it's low bandwith?

It's not low bandwidth, but I'd prefer if we could have a link with it
officially hosted somewhere. What does everyone else think?

 El Domingo, 18 de Junio de 2006 15:30, Vivia Nikolaidou escribió:
  Hey, thanx for this :) Nice idea indeed!
 
  You can take some ideas from our official changelog:
  http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=ChangeLog
 
  though that's kind of outdated as well :)
 
  On 6/18/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've posted a bit of noise about 0.96rc1 (we want testers, don't we?) in
   a known spanish digg-clone which points to an article in my blog about
   0.96 new features.
  
   If some spanish-speaking wants to take a look
  
   http://meneame.net/story/el-amsn-que-viene
  
   BTW, if you see any mistake, or want to add something to the informal
   changelog, just let me know :)
   --
   Rafael Rodríguez
  
   http://unrincon.blogspot.com

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Re: [Amsn-devel] just marketing

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:

 Op zondag 18 juni 2006 15:52, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou:
  On 6/18/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I took them from there actually, between other places. BTW, do u mind if
   i post your link to rc1, or it's low bandwith?
 
  It's not low bandwidth, but I'd prefer if we could have a link with it
  officially hosted somewhere. What does everyone else think?
 
 put it in sf released files?

And wait for SF mirrors to sync?

Apart from this, according to the Release Guide, this has to be done after 
the packages:

# Tar-gzip the msn/ folder, removing any unnecessary extras. (Shouldn't be 
any). As some kind of standard in the gnu world, if the tar.gz is 
amsn-0.93.tar.gz, the folder inside must be called amsn-0.93.
# Ask packagers to create amsn packages:
# Upload file to ftp://upload.sourceforge.net/incoming (user: anonymous)
# Add a new file release in the SourceForge File Release System
# Wait for Sourceforge mirrors to get synced 

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
S, our 0.96 TODO is almost empty? Billiob fixed file sending to
WLM8 (thanx billiob!!), now we just need to test it, and I just got a
funny bug, should be easy though :)

Removed:

- cancel signin gets activated as soon as we press Log in, not when we
get the answer from nexus
- huge 'sockets' memleak :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6513#6513
- contact list's contacts are mixed up when using default profile :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6615#6615

Modified:
- We can't send files to msn8 users.
Into:
- We can't send files to msn8 users. (EVERYONE TEST IT! thanx billiob!! :)))

Added:
- Don't substitute smileys in links ( see
http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~vivia/link-with-smiley.png )

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users. (EVERYONE TEST IT! thanx billiob!! :)))
- Don't substitute smileys in links ( see
http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~vivia/link-with-smiley.png )


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Re: [Amsn-devel] just marketing

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

 Receiving feedback in my blog...
 
 A guy complains:
 
 Misósofos said... 
 Lo que no me acaba de gustar, es que guarda los vídeos de webcam en un 
 formato 
 en que no se pueden convertir ni ver con cualquier programa visor de vídeo...
 
 Which translated is
 What i don't like about it, is that it saves videos of webcam in such a 
 format that they can't be converted nor viewed with any video player...
 
 Is that true for 0.96 so i can answer him back?

Unfortunately yes. That's a direct dump of what we receive from the 
socket, this is the reason why no other video players support them. But 
it's an EXTREMELY highly requested feature. There is a way to play/convert 
them under Windows:

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=944

(Should try either recompiling for Linux or running under Wine!)

VLC also had plans for supporting playback of these files, so any feature 
requests should go there. For now, it's a hassle to convert webcam logs to 
another format inside aMSN and we're having other priorities, but nothing 
is impossible (Youness had some ideas!)
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Re: [Amsn-devel] A patch for the chatwindow

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Pasting from http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?t=8323start=45 :

Luyer
Wet and Harmless


Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 9


Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:20 amPost subject:  Reply with quote
Tom,

Here's a fix for cut and paste in the chat window.

http://www.luyer.net/amsn-cut-paste.patch.txt

The cause -- some platforms (including latest Tcl/Tk
Aqua it would appear), you can't select text from
disabled text objects, so you need a special read
only text object type.

Also some changes to make things a bit more predictable
when typing after clicking on the output text object.

-

that's all...

On 6/18/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 vivia, more comments please!!! sometimes you send just a link, it's ok,
 perfect, we can read from the link what you want...
 but now you're sending us.. a patch ?? what does it mean ?
 also, this patch will create chaos in amsn.. why are all the configure
 -state normal/disabled removed ??? without them we won't be able to insert
 any text in the window!!!
 also, why is 'delete' replaced by 'del', and insert by 'ins'... it is
 recommended to NOT use the abbreviations and the abbreviations are only
 there for compatibility and lazy developers (so says the #tcl team), so it
 shouldn't be like that, so why did he change it that way ? it's not like
 it wasn't working before :o
 anyways, this patch is ununderstandable, I need text, and I need
 explanations, and I need it to be 'real', not have many abbreviations and
 remove the configure -state code...

 KKRT

 On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:02:43 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  http://www.luyer.net/amsn-cut-paste.patch.txt
 
 
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[Amsn-devel] test - delme

2006-06-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

delme


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Re: [Amsn-devel] Thank you

2006-06-19 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
[21:03:09] Karel ok .. I'm unsubscribed now .. if any answers come
to my mail .. tell 'm I did so I won't get it if not CC'ed
[21:03:19] Karel and this sounds harsh etc to be so quickly .. but I
know myselkf
[21:03:24] Karel if I don't do it now I won't do it
[21:03:28] Vivia(r) (*) can i just reply and paste these lines?
[21:03:36] Karel sure

no more comments from my side... :S

On 6/19/06, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'll come straight to the point: I'm quitting with it.  This is not
 because of anyone of you but just because I've had enough of it for now.
 I already thought about quitting for some time now (you've not seen me
 active or answering mail last weeks), but in fact I kept following some
 discussions but really had to keep myself from answering.  I'm in the
 middle of some exams and I can't be wasting any time.
 Though, aMSN hasn't been a waste (of time) for me.  I learnt a whole
 lot;  I never did any programming before,  I could give something back
 to the community, I learnt how to deal with these kind of world-wide
 over-the-internet communications etc.  I'd like to thank every one of
 you for all this.  Also, I'd like to apoligise for not completing
 everything I accepted as task or said I was gonna do.  Remember the
 Webcam Assistant ?  I wanted to restart it but felt like noone seemed to
 need it anyway.  This is not a complaint, it's just I was lacking the
 courage some times.  Also, Tom (and others), I know I said I was gonna
 help more on the UI and stuff but I really shouldn't have promised
 anything.

 I'm gonna keep this a short one and I don't want anyone asking me why
 or whatever.  It's just ... I don't have all the joy anymore and this is
 not because of any of you as I really had some great time within the
 aMSN community too.  I don't think I'll stop with programming in it's
 whole as it's too cool to feel like a god, creating something from
 scratch and see it appearing on your screen... you all know this
 feeling.  I might be sending some patches later on but I really don't
 want to be an aMSN developper anymore.

 In fact, this means you can remove my svn account and I'll propably
 unsubscribe from this list too.  It's not I want to forget aboutall this
 but when I don't unsuscribe I will keep on following stuff and want to
 do something .. promise something and then find myself lacking courage
 after some time and wanting to stop it.   This ain't gopod for
 anyone :).

 So, at last, don't ask me why I quit or if I'd stay etc... I thought
 about this already and don't want to have to legitimate what I'm
 doing :).


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-20 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Added :
- special characters in Windows profile name prevent from opening
browser to hotlog.htm

COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- We can't send files to msn8 users. (seems to be working)
- Don't substitute smileys in links ( see
http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~vivia/link-with-smiley.png )
-  if the trigger of a custom smiley contains öäüõ (or any special
character). the smiley is not sent to the contact
- aMSN says the cam was rejected when you accept it (when someone
sends an invite for you to send your cam). :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1211
- special characters in Windows profile name prevent from opening
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-06-23 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/23/06, Rafael Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The progress in this RC seems quick...

 BTW, do u want a debian amd64 package to put in the site for people to
 download? where do i put it?

Sure! - Just upload it somewhere and send us a link so we can put it
on File Releases.

BTW, I had a meeting with my professor on Wednesday and ended up with
tons of work, so I won't be able to do the bitrock installer (in fact,
I shouldn't be writing this email now!)... Phil / Youness , can you do
it? Anyone else? (email Youness for more info)

Youness, good job on the commits (Y)



 On 6/23/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Removed :
  - aMSN says the cam was rejected when you accept it (when someone
  sends an invite for you to send your cam). :
  http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1211
  - We can't send files to msn8 users. (seems to be working)
  I removed the msn8 FT issue because noone complained and from looking at
  the code, noone should... I don't want that issue to stay there forever,
  so we might as well remove it now, if a problem remains, we'll just readd
  it...
 
 
  COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96
 
  - If the trigger of a custom smiley contains ِنüُ (or any special
  character), the smiley is not sent to the contact
  - special characters in Windows logon username prevent from opening
  browser to hotlog.htm
 
 
 
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[Amsn-devel] RC1 packaging, was: Re: 0.96 TODO

2006-06-23 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/23/06, Philippe Valembois - Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Rafael : send the package to me What is the date for it ? (because there
 is several tags for the 0.96RC1

I uploaded it on http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb

 Vivia : I will try to do it... I don't know how to do it but I will do it

Merci :) Youness had emailed the instructions to you and me, so you
know all I know. If you lost the email, I can fwd it again.

 For all releasers : what are the versions uploaded on SF servers for the
 debian targz and tarbz2 ?

Can't you go and see?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Amsn-commits Digest, Vol 2, Issue 40

2006-06-24 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 It seems that when I'm not there, people start adding more totally useless
 option to Advanced panel in the preferences? What a useless
 option...seriously! Unless I missed a big cleanup of the advanced panel or a
 reorganization of the preferences :P

LOL! -- Welcome back Jerome! :))) Actually, this was added because someone 
complained on the forum that it's slow when sending big images - it's slow 
to load the image to memory and then resize it to create the preview, so 
the person's amsn was freezing for several seconds. :)

 Welcome back all, glad to be back!

Glad to see you back :

 Le 22 juin 2006 à 10:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
 Log Message:
 ---
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Work on the amsn Mac

2006-06-26 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 We got someone to add to the credits
 
 David Luyer

He's there already, don't worry :D

 
 He's a mac user, and he found a way to create aMSN in Universal  
 Binaries (for Mac-Intel). And he has a lot of knowledge.
 
 You can see his work there:
 http://www.luyer.net/osx/
 
 He created a script to do everything. Compile TCL-TK, compile  
 TkCximage, compile webcamsn, compile everything, ALL, in one script.  
 It's on the web directory (56kb file). There's a script file for the  
 10.3.X version of Mac OS X, and another for 10.4 (Universal Binary).  
 Inside there's a patch to support Unicode for reading characters in  
 TCL-TK.
 
 So the masters of unix scripts files here, Youness and Phil, would be  
 nice if you have time to just take a fast look at the script and tell  
 what you think. I think we should add that somewhere on SVN.
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] a few items

2006-06-26 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 6/26/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
  in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you
  can
  find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
  something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're
  free
  to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes..
  for
  me, it's a critical issue...
  Can't reproduce the error...
  It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng to
  the
  last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be
  committed...
  Phil

 Shouldn't we remove libpng and zlib, and all that crap from amsn SVN ? and
 leave it as a dependency ? add the dep in the configure and we're done ?
 just like what Sander did for FC5 ?
 I think it's the best way to do it... the only way it should be.

Yes, unless they are patched? (I don't know). Then I guess we have to
do the same for tkdnd, but leave it optional.
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[Amsn-devel] Broken Windows binaries?

2006-06-27 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1269

Today's SVN on Windows crashes when someone tries to open a
conversation window. Maybe one of the Windows binaries Phil updated
yesterday got messed up?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [6988] trunk/amsn/utils/windows/winutils

2006-06-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 at uni, but you don't have access to the CDs to install it on your laptop  
 or at home for example, no ?

For us here, we just go to somewhere on a M$ website with our univ un/pw, 
and we can either download everything we like (apart frmo M$ Office) or 
ask them to put it on a CD for us and go fetch it at the NOC. That's for 
what you install at home. PCs at the university have their own licenses.

And it's what Jerome said, it's a license for all the students at a very 
reduced price for those who pay it.

 
 KKRT
 
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:10:17 -0400, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For us, we have everything free at University, legal.
 
  Visual Studio Full Version .net, Windows XP Pro SP2, and almost all
  Microsoft products.
  Le 28 juin 2006 à 12:08, Philippe Valembois - Phil a écrit :
 
  I think it's a good idea as I use only VC++6 (official version
  bought at
  reduced prices as a student) except for Winflash... (For that
  please look at
  my other mail :d)
  Phil
 
  Le Tuesday 27 June 2006 23:22, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
  Nah, not stupid, I was about to suggest it (which is why it's not
  stupid
  ^o) :P)
  We already have some project files, but not all.. we have .vcproj
  and .sln
  for tkcximage I think but that's the .NET project files, I prefer
  the .dsp
  and .dsw files, anyways, whatever we add, it should be the same
  version of
  VS for all the projects (I would vote for .dsp/.dsw.. if someone
  has .NEt,
  then VS will convert the dsp file, if you have only VS6 and we
  used .sln
  files, it just won't be able to open it).
  Also, I dont' want any .opt or .ncb files, only the .dsp + .dsw
  files are
  needed.
 
  KKRT
 
  On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:09:16 -0400, Sander Hoentjen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
  pleased to meet you, I am big brother, and I am watching you :P
  Anyway, isn't it a good idea to keep project files on svn, just
  as we
  have Makefile etc, or is that a stupid thing to say?
 
  On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 23:06 +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
  I said to myself : I hope nobody will ask for this change :p
  Hehem... :d
  It's simply because I think we shouldn't have to modify the code to
  decide if
  we want to compile with stubs or not...
  I added these defines in the project file (which isn't on the
  repo) so
  if I
  want to disable stubs for any reason, it's only on my project
  and the
  code
  isn't compromised
  So don't worry, defines are here but not in the same place...
  Phil
 
  Le Tuesday 27 June 2006 22:41, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
  On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 13:11 -0700,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
  Modified: trunk/amsn/utils/windows/winutils/winutils.h
  =
  ==
  --- trunk/amsn/utils/windows/winutils/winutils.h  2006-06-27
 
  18:39:50 UTC
 
  (rev 6987)
 
  +++ trunk/amsn/utils/windows/winutils/winutils.h2006-06-27
 
  20:11:40 UTC (rev 6988) @@ -10,9 +10,6 @@
   #ifndef _WINUTILS
   #define _WINUTILS
 
  -#define USE_TCL_STUBS
  -#define USE_TK_STUBS
  -
 
  Why? I don't know much but in the man pages I read:
 
  Enabling the stubs mechanism for an extension requires the
  following
  steps:
 
  1)
  Call Tcl_InitStubs in the extension before calling any
  other
 
  Tcl
 
  functions.
 
  2)
  Define the USE_TCL_STUBS symbol. Typically, you would
  include
  the -DUSE_TCL_STUBS flag when compiling the extension.
 
  3)
  Link the extension with the Tcl stubs library instead
  of the
  standard Tcl library. On Unix platforms, the library
  name is
  libtclstub8.1.a; on Windows platforms, the library name is
  tclstub81.lib.
 
 
  If the extension also requires the Tk API, it must also call
  Tk_InitStubs to initialize the Tk stubs interface and link with
  the Tk
  stubs libraries. See the Tk_InitStubs page for more information.
 
 
  So.. I don't understand why you removed them. I know you will
  have a
  good reason but I just want to know it too :)
 
 
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[Amsn-devel] First-time configuration wizard about flash?

2006-06-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1271

in a few words, Youness suggested that we add a First-time
configuration wizard that will ask the user if linflash works for his
WM. Go there for more info, I can't explain more atm, just writing in
order to not forget it :D

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Re: [Amsn-devel] RC1 packaging, was: Re: 0.96 TODO

2006-06-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
So, what's the status of the packaging?

AFAIK, we need at least:
* one generic .deb (uploaded for Ubuntu)
* one generic .rpm (available from repositories)
* autopackage (Youness? I think you had it ready but just had to upload it?)
* Bitrock installer for Windows + Linux (Sander? are they OK?)
* Mac
--- and some other files Youness had told me he had to upload, I just
can't remember what.

What are we stuck on?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] RC1 packaging, was: Re: 0.96 TODO

2006-06-29 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 I was waiting for the final version of the package by David Layer, it 
 seems to be very good right now so I'll take care of it soon.
 
 So we use tagged RC1 on SVN for the packaging?

Tagged RC1

 Le 29 juin 2006 à 14:42, Tom Hennigan a écrit :
 
 Hey,
 
 - Mac
  I don't think the RC is up to date, I think Jérôme will want to update the
  package.
 
 Tom
 
 
 On 29 Jun 2006, at 13:42, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 
  So, what's the status of the packaging?
  
  AFAIK, we need at least:
  * one generic .deb (uploaded for Ubuntu)
  * one generic .rpm (available from repositories)
  * autopackage (Youness? I think you had it ready but just had to upload
  it?)
  * Bitrock installer for Windows + Linux (Sander? are they OK?)
  * Mac
  --- and some other files Youness had told me he had to upload, I just
  can't remember what.
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-07-05 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
COMPLETE TODO LIST FOR 0.96

- If you close aMSN while in a custom state, it will come back with
the nickname from custom state, not the normal one -
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1319

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-07-07 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 WHEN IS THE 0.96 GONNA BE RELEASED... AT LEAST RC1.. damn it... RC1 is 
 so outdated now, I wonder if it's worth it to release it now... here's 
 what I think, release the nsis installer for windows (yeah, we might 
 drop bitrock completly, nsis is much more advanced, maybe once bitrock 
 becomes more mature, we'll use it...) and the autopackage for linux, and 
 forget about the other binaries, maybe create a full list of packages 
 for the final 0.96 release, but for RC1, let's have an autopackage and 
 STOP WASTING TIME!!!

We have almost all binaries OK, we need the ebuild from billiob (we were 
supposed to have it yesterday, but oh well, can't we release without it?) 
and the installer for mac, seems Jerome is a bit too busy lately so I 
spoke to Tom H:
[13:32:28] Tom i'll check with J what he wants in it,then i'll have it 
up for u by sometime today :)

the rest isn't critical I guess... ?

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[Amsn-devel] Spellcheck plugin?

2006-07-07 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1327

I haven't tested it... please feedback so we can include it in the 
official website?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 DMG's

2006-07-08 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Hey,

First of all, congrats :) though I can't test it :) we're nearly ready to 
release RC1 now :)

But where are the DMG's? On the same URL where Tom had them (see below) or 
elsewhere? And why didn't you upload them to file releases?

Warning to everyone, I'm on modem again :@ my provider has a problem :@ so 
I cannot upload the dmg's... someone else will have to do it :D

Vivia

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 Good now, thanks Tom. By being 2 on the mac side we can help each other,
 that's much better.
 Le 7 juillet 2006 à 18:36, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer a écrit :
 
 Wait wait, I'm fixing something with Tom, the right package will be ready in
 few minutes
 Le 7 juillet 2006 à 18:06, Tom Hennigan a écrit :
 
  Hey,
  
  Here are the Mac RC 1's: http://dhost.info/climbtothesky/amsn/
  
  There are 2 downloads:
   - Univ - for Mac OS X 10.4 (PPC or Intel)
   - PPC - for Mac OS X 10.3.9
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 DMG's

2006-07-09 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

So  Will Anyone Upload That  I'm on modem so it's really not a 
good idea, but that's the last thing that's keeping us from the release of 
RC1 

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006, Tom Hennigan wrote:

 Heya,
 
 Yep it's on my URL, I don't know why they've not been uploaded. Doesn't matter
 I think it's just that no-one's had time to upload them, I don't think that
 there's anything wrong with them :D
 
 - Tom
 
 
 On 8 Jul 2006, at 19:20, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
 
 Hey,
 
 First of all, congrats :) though I can't test it :) we're nearly ready to
 release RC1 now :)
 
 But where are the DMG's? On the same URL where Tom had them (see below) or
 elsewhere? And why didn't you upload them to file releases?
 
 Warning to everyone, I'm on modem again :@ my provider has a problem :@ so
 I cannot upload the dmg's... someone else will have to do it :D
 
 Vivia
 
 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
 
  Good now, thanks Tom. By being 2 on the mac side we can help each other,
  that's much better.
  Le 7 juillet 2006 à 18:36, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer a écrit :
  
   Wait wait, I'm fixing something with Tom, the right package will be ready
   in
   few minutes
   Le 7 juillet 2006 à 18:06, Tom Hennigan a écrit :
   
Hey,

Here are the Mac RC 1's: http://dhost.info/climbtothesky/amsn/

There are 2 downloads:
 - Univ - for Mac OS X 10.4 (PPC or Intel)
 - PPC - for Mac OS X 10.3.9

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 DMG's

2006-07-10 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 7/10/06, Boris Faure (aka billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oops, was not the good ones.
 Uploading the good ones now. Wait hardly 2 hours.

Added to file releases. So I guess... in 24h (as soon as SF mirrors
sync) we are ready!! :D


 2006/7/9, Boris Faure (aka billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Will Anyone Upload That 
 
  Done. Now, you know what to do :
  RELEASE !
 


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 DMG's

2006-07-10 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Tom Hennigan wrote:

 Hey,
 
 If you don't have it already, here's a Ubuntu PPC Deb:
 http://dhost.info/climbtothesky/amsn/amsn_0.96rc1-1.deb

Thanx a lot :D Uploaded!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96 TODO

2006-07-10 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote:

  The .deb for Ubuntu is on file releases already. The matter is, we
  don't have a Debian package :D (won't the Ubuntu one work?)
 
 amsn_0.96rc1-1.i386.stable.deb
 amsn_0.96rc1-1.i386.testing.deb
 by Yoda-BZH
 already uploaded.

Added to File Releases. THANX! :)


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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 DMG's

2006-07-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 So as I said to Vivia and Billiob on aMSN, the release was too big,  
 it was .dmg.tar.gz, I just re-done the .dmg and now it's a normal  
 file size.
 
 I didn't find the previous release on sourceforge so please delete it  
 yourself, mine is inside amsn-mac

It was inside amsn, I deleted them and added the Mandriva rpm. So, I think 
we release ASAP now!! (You had said we shouldn't care if mirrors are late 
to sync for Mac?)

 Le 10 juillet 2006 à 06:14, Vivia Nikolaidou a écrit :
 
  On 7/10/06, Boris Faure (aka billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oops, was not the good ones.
  Uploading the good ones now. Wait hardly 2 hours.
 
  Added to file releases. So I guess... in 24h (as soon as SF mirrors
  sync) we are ready!! :D
 
 
  2006/7/9, Boris Faure (aka billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Will Anyone Upload That 
 
  Done. Now, you know what to do :
  RELEASE !
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.96rc1 rpm

2006-07-11 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Russ Kowald wrote:

 
 Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  Hey, Thanx a lot :) I just realized that the Mandriva rpm hasn't been 
  uploaded yet, but the link you gave seems down so I can't fetch it :( Can 
  you upload it somewhere else please? (Preferably directly to 
  ftp://upload.sourceforge.net/incoming )

 
 Done! uploaded to where you said to ^^

Perfect, they've been added to file releases :) Thanx!


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Re: [Amsn-devel] [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [7042] trunk/www/amsn_latest

2006-07-12 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Jerome Gagnon-Voyer wrote:

 Are we sure about that? What does it change? Does it mean everybody gets 
 a warning when launching aMSN? More details plz.

Well, I thought we wouldn't notify users about RC1 . I also think the 
autoupdater in amsn client thinks that 0.96RC1  0.96 , I had tried to fix 
it, it was a huge chaos, then you told me RC1 wouldn't be in amsn_latest 
anyway. So why this change now? They discussed it on IRC, I thought, oh 
well, ... but if Jerome thinks the same too. it's a problem


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Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN is worth $8,258,557

2006-07-17 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Álvaro J. Iradier wrote:

 LOL! $55k/year? I wish I earned that :p

OK, take an estimated effort of 150 Man Years, divide by number of devels 
and number of years aMSN has been running, and find your share. You'd have 
to work that much.

I mean... 150 Man Years... wow :o are we doing all that effort??? That 
was the first thing I noticed, not the salary!!

 On 7/17/06, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The repository url still points to cvs there!!!
  That might damage the metrics I suppose...
 
  Op maandag 17 juli 2006 19:52, schreef Karol Krizka:
   Hey all,
   I've been looking through ohloh.net, the site created by former microsoft
   employees as mentioned on slashdot. I've found their entry for amsn and it
   says the following:
 Codebase  547,750 LOC
 Effort (est.)  150 Man Years
 Avg. Salary  $55k/year
 Total  $8,258,557
  
   Also they list the language as C/C++ :P
  
   Good job people!
   http://www.ohloh.net/opensource/software/amsn-
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Re: [Amsn-devel] aMSN is worth $8,258,557

2006-07-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 wow, that's great... I'm ready to sell :D lol 
 honestly, if M$ wanted to buy us, what would you vote ?
 this is of course, just an hypothetic Off Topic poll :
 *Yes
 KaKaRoTo
 
 *No

Vivia
Vivia
Vivia

(yes, I vote 3 times :D)

 anyways, it's great! I wonder what it gives to other projects, I'll take 
 a look tomorrow from work.. I wonder gaim/kopete... anyways, 150man 
 year.. probably because we did a lot of work, but we're a lot of people 
 too and we got a lot of contributions... but still.. 150 is a bit too 
 much.. I never saw the repo active with more than 1 developer on it :P 
 and it's dead most of the time :P oh well, it's M$ calculations...
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 02:01:06AM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, ??lvaro J. Iradier wrote:
  
   LOL! $55k/year? I wish I earned that :p
  
  OK, take an estimated effort of 150 Man Years, divide by number of devels 
  and number of years aMSN has been running, and find your share. You'd have 
  to work that much.
  
  I mean... 150 Man Years... wow :o are we doing all that effort??? That 
  was the first thing I noticed, not the salary!!
  
   On 7/17/06, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The repository url still points to cvs there!!!
That might damage the metrics I suppose...
   
Op maandag 17 juli 2006 19:52, schreef Karol Krizka:
 Hey all,
 I've been looking through ohloh.net, the site created by former 
 microsoft
 employees as mentioned on slashdot. I've found their entry for amsn 
 and it
 says the following:
   Codebase  547,750 LOC
   Effort (est.)  150 Man Years
   Avg. Salary  $55k/year
   Total  $8,258,557

 Also they list the language as C/C++ :P

 Good job people!
 http://www.ohloh.net/opensource/software/amsn

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[Amsn-devel] Problem when amsn starts on a different virtual desktop

2006-07-18 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1405

When amsn starts on a different virtual desktop than the one you are in, 
it thinks that its size is zero or something, so (if you have nick 
truncating enabled) they will always truncate to ... . See the 
screenshot on that thread to see exactly what I mean.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN

2006-07-22 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:

 Euskara == Basque.
 We already have it (langeu)
 
 I'll send a reply.

Back from holidays (and leaving again tomorrow for a week)

Not only we have Basque already, but someone is active on it (a 
translation was sent quite recently, so the langfile on svn must have very 
few missing keys). Of course, this doesn't mean that aitiba cannot work on 
it, but (s)he will have to get in touch with the other person working on 
langeu, so they can cooperate better.

I think that aMSN translators must speak English, it's kind of a 
prerequisite, because they are translating from English anyway and because 
all discussions on amsn-lang are in English. But if there's another way 
that they can translate, why not - I cannot promise I can think clearly 
atm.

Aitiba : In case Harry didn't say it, if you go to aMSN's main page, then 
on the last tab (Development I think), there's a link for translating aMSN 
which also contains one howto. Make sure you read that. Sorry for not 
looking up the link for you, I'm too tired atm...

Vivia

 Op woensdag 19 juli 2006 18:19, schreef Youness Alaoui:
  Humm.. I wonder what euskara is.. (no need to answer, I'll search on my
  own). Anyways, it should be sent to amsn-lang I think. In the meantime, you
  can redirect her/him to the translations page of our website, it has
  instructions on how to translate and what to do to request a new
  language... (but it's in english)
 
 
  KKRT
 
  On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 12:06:09PM +0200, Lz wrote:
   (s)he wants to translate amsn to euskara... to the one involved in the
   language stuff, send him/her a mail.
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: aitiba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Jul 19, 2006 11:55 AM
   Subject: Traduccion a euskara de aMSN
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   Buenos dias,
  
Os escribo porque me gustaria empezar a traducir a euskara el
   aMSN.Antes de todo querria que me confirmarais que no hay nadie
   haciendo lo que yo voy hacer y si tengo vuestro consentimiento para
   hacerlo. Tambien me gustaria saber donde estan los archivos de
   idiomas. Me he bajado el codigo fuente pero no se cual de los ficheros
   es.
  
   Esperando una respuesta ... se despide ... aitiba.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] SORRY TO DISTURB YOU

2006-07-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 All those emails, I keep answering myself.. I know, the ML was down for 
 a while, it was slow to send the emails.. but now, it's working right???
 SO WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYBODY?!??!?!?!! 

h, how's that from the person who hates caps and exclamation marks? :D

I just came back from a week of holidays, had A LOT of amsn-devel reading 
to do, i think i really just managed to catch up, but i'm dizzy and hungry 
so don't expect me to do anything until tomorrow. (wtf, I even wonder why 
I answered this one email)

Billiob just emailed me, he's going to be away from his computer for 4 
weeks.

Youness, I'm feeling a bit lost with all this huge pile of emails waiting 
for me to read them. I did read them, but I'm extremely lost - need you on 
msn to discuss all these things...

That's all for now. Take care everyone.

Viv

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[Amsn-devel] SMS alarm?

2006-07-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Some user has written a patch that will send alarms by SMS, it's here:

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1465

I cannot test because my operator isn't supported but who can test it? :)

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: QA assistance offer

2006-07-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Hi, and thanx for your offer :), extra effort is always needed! We 
appreciate this a lot!

Your checkout URL isn't precise and I wonder how Youness didn't notice. It 
is https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/amsn/trunk/amsn for the trunk and 
https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/amsn/branches/0_96/amsn for the 0.96 
branch. It should work now!

Greetings, and thanx again,

Vivia

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Hi,
 Let's continue this thread on the amsn-devel mailing list (reply to the 
 list, not to me directly), this way others can share their knowledge.
 
 For the time being, you can do QA and thanks (again) for the offer. 
 There are no specific feature list that I know of, I know there is a 
 listing of different features *somewhere* in the WIKI, maybe someone 
 else (with a working PC) can redirect you to the appropriate page (was 
 it the user guide?), anyways, the devel wiki is located at 
 http://amsn.sf.net/wiki 
 For now, you should mainly focus on testing everything you can, every 
 menu click, every button, every feature you know of. You can also write 
 a QA tests document IF you're willing to, we probably lack such a 
 document.
 About SVN, you don't need any access, you can checkout aMSN using 
 anonymous login and it is in sync with the developer's repository.
 If you're unable to check out amsn, tell me the exact error you get.
 Also, if you could test the 0.96 branch instead of the trunk/ (0.97b) it 
 would be better.
 Maybe someone else can you more info.
 
 Thanks,
 KaKaRoTo
 
 On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:15:14PM +0300, Saar Chen wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Already subscribed to the amsn-devel list
  
  I have no problem doing anything, but currently I have very little
  programming knowledge (even in scripting), so until I'll get into various
  programming languages - QA will be my main useful offer
  
  I just started getting into specific details of how to interface with
  existing RD activities and procedures; I've downloaded an SVN client, and
  tried connecting to the following address [*
  https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/amsn*] (which I found on the projects'
  site). However, my current log-in information is not validated for
  synchronizing with current relevant data. Perhaps you should flag me to
  allow access?
  
  Anyhow, I'll download version 0.96 soon and start testing. Are there any
  features\requirements documents, or should I focus only in functionality
  tests for the time being?
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Saar
  
  On 7/31/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Help is always welcomed! Thanks for offering..
  Subscribe to amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
  
  and if you find anything, send a mail to notify us with exact procedures
  on how to reproduce. You could also learn on how to fix small bugs, I
  don't know if you'd be interested in that or you'd only want to do QA.
  We want to release the 0.96 version of aMSN, can you download the SVN
  versoin of the 0.96 branch and heavily test it to see if you can find
  anything obvious/critical ?
  
  Thanks
  KaKaRoTo
  
  On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 06:40:16PM +0200, ?lvaro J. Iradier wrote:
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   Date: Jul 30, 2006 6:14 PM
   Subject: QA assistance offer
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   Message body follows:
  
   Hello,
  
   I would like offering my help in testing the project
  
   I have access to winXP/Linux/OSx86; I have two years of
   work experience as Application  QA Engineer.
  
   Although I work in a full-time-plus job, I'll be glad
   assisting as a frequent user of this software, as much as
   I'll be able to in current spare time limitations.
  
   Regards,
  
   Saar Chen
  
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[Amsn-devel] a few bugs

2006-07-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

damn, if i don't paste these here i'll completely forget them, so there 
they go, untranslated and unchecked... just so they don't completely 
escape from me :)

4. Divers bugs :
Bon je suis en SVN, alors c'est un peu normal mais voici en gros les 
principaux bugs :
- il est parfois nécéssaire de redimmensionner la fenêtre de discussion 
car la zone de texte disparait simplement...
- les gifs animés lors des preview dans la fenêtre principale font planter 
amsn sans avertissement...
- le plugin tkdnd fait soit planter amsn (lorsqu'il est directement copié 
dans /usr/share/amsn/utils/), soit il est inactif (lorsque je copie juste 
le dossier tkdnd/library) ; tkdndv2, sous Linux Ubuntu...
- Bugs déjà cités : % des progressbar pour les gros fichiers et le skin 
tux 

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[Amsn-devel] OT: Congrats Youness!! was Re: a few bugs

2006-08-01 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok, say congrats, I finally got my new PC!!! but it's 2:30 AM and I 
 have 'just' finished updating windows and installing drivers and I 
 didn't finish setting it up by installing my system completly (I strted 
 at 5PM!!!)..

Wow! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :) (Oups, sorry for caps + exclamation marks!)

But. why windows? ^o) :@ :P I guess Linux would have been shorter :P

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Re: [Amsn-devel] OT: Congrats Youness!! was Re: a few bugs

2006-08-01 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 I know linux would have been faster, but I never tried Linux on SATA 
 drives (actually, last time I tried, I fucked up my HDD), so I want to 
 have a whole lot of time to install inux properly.

No need to. I just tried the Ubuntu CD (Kubuntu actually) and it worked 
perfectly - just a few days ago on my brother's PC. Oddly enough, the DVD 
wouldn't boot (wtf? weren't they supposed to have the same kernel?) So 
it's highly recommended ;)

 + I had a Windows installation CD, and all my Linux isntallation cds 
   were for x86, not amd64...

OK, now you installed Windows, you can download a nice and pretty and 
beautiful Linux installation DVD!

 Also, I'm used to Windows now, I know which progs to use, etc..
 my linux is only for the server and I don't use it regularly anymore, 
 I'll need a small transition time

:@ :@ :@ :@ :@ 

 (+ I got now two powerfull PCs so I can put a windows and a linux and 
 use both, no need for headless anymore!

1) syntax error :P

2) or make them both dual-boot? :D

 but anyways, let's not start a flame war on windows vs. linux :P

It's not a flame war if you can have both, I just wasn't expecting this 
reaction from you :@ ^o) :P and I also needed to tell you that SATA works 
OK now! :)

 KKRT
 
 On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:19:00PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
   ok, say congrats, I finally got my new PC!!! but it's 2:30 AM and I 
   have 'just' finished updating windows and installing drivers and I 
   didn't finish setting it up by installing my system completly (I strted 
   at 5PM!!!)..
  
  Wow! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :) (Oups, sorry for caps + exclamation marks!)
  
  But. why windows? ^o) :@ :P I guess Linux would have been shorter :P

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Re: [Amsn-devel] OT: Congrats Youness!! was Re: a few bugs

2006-08-01 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:52:00PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  
   I know linux would have been faster, but I never tried Linux on SATA 
   drives (actually, last time I tried, I fucked up my HDD), so I want to 
   have a whole lot of time to install inux properly.
  
  No need to. I just tried the Ubuntu CD (Kubuntu actually) and it worked 
  perfectly - just a few days ago on my brother's PC. Oddly enough, the DVD 
  wouldn't boot (wtf? weren't they supposed to have the same kernel?) So 
  it's highly recommended ;)
  
 Nah, I'll stick with debian.. my friend tried to get me on Gentoo (with 
 my new compilation power of dual core, it wont' be hassle to compile 
 anymore (or so he says:P)) and I don't want kubuntu/ubuntu simply 
 because now I like debian and I'm stubborn :P (it took years for burger 
 to just make me try debian :P)

Yeah, since it's a kernel issue anyway, I suppose Debian will also be able 
to handle it OK. Worst case scenario, you make your own kernel, and it 
will work. :)

   + I had a Windows installation CD, and all my Linux isntallation cds 
 were for x86, not amd64...
  
  OK, now you installed Windows, you can download a nice and pretty and 
  beautiful Linux installation DVD!
  
 yep, sure!

(y) :)

   Also, I'm used to Windows now, I know which progs to use, etc..
   my linux is only for the server and I don't use it regularly anymore, 
   I'll need a small transition time
  
  :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ 
  
 hehe, yeah, sure! I can't live without Opera, and last time I tried 
 (v7.x) Opera on linux was segfaulting ALOT... and I want to still use 
 it. Also, I can't live without toal commander, I guess it's not 
 necessary on linux, but it's nice to know that my first tab is TC and 
 second tab is Opera (on windows taskbar), now I'll have an xterm + opera 
 :p it hard to change habits ;)

Yeah, I love Total Commander too, but you know what? I searched. There's 
gnome commander (which was buggy and ugly last time I tried it) and 
there's Krusader which is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!! Even better than TC, I must 
confess ;) And Opera will most probably work OK now. :)

   (+ I got now two powerfull PCs so I can put a windows and a linux and 
   use both, no need for headless anymore!
  
  1) syntax error :P
  
 what syntax error ? humm you mean missing close bracker ? ;)

wtf is a bracker? :D (starting AI module to compensate for my lack of real 
intelligence) bracket you mean? :P baka :P fortunately you're not coding 
ATM :P

  2) or make them both dual-boot? :D
  
 nah, just one.. a duual boto means I need to reboot, and I'm not one who 
 likes rebooting, so I'll need to have them both on one OS (can be 
 different ones) and never reboot.

I had that too with laptop+desktop, but then I moved to just Linux on both 
ones hell, I *do* need sftp, samba sucks! :P and I also *do* need ssh 
:D

   but anyways, let's not start a flame war on windows vs. linux :P
  
  It's not a flame war if you can have both, I just wasn't expecting this 
  reaction from you :@ ^o) :P and I also needed to tell you that SATA works 
  OK now! :)
  
 I know, I just meant a lengthy, OT discussion, which it already became :P

oh come on... you know how much i hate teasing you :D

 p.s.: new PC is of course 'vista ready', wouhou, I'll try it out hoping 
 it will be less buggy than with my old PC! :) (I hate the eye candies.. 
 I hope we can make it 'classic mode')

Have I told you what Svista means? :D

to everyone else: in greek, svista (pronounced at least) means erase 
them. :D

 
   KKRT
   
   On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:19:00PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 ok, say congrats, I finally got my new PC!!! but it's 2:30 AM and 
 I 
 have 'just' finished updating windows and installing drivers and I 
 didn't finish setting it up by installing my system completly (I 
 strted 
 at 5PM!!!)..

Wow! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :) (Oups, sorry for caps + exclamation 
marks!)

But. why windows? ^o) :@ :P I guess Linux would have been shorter :P

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Re: [Amsn-devel] OT: Congrats Youness!! was Re: a few bugs

2006-08-01 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

  Nah, I'll stick with debian.. my friend tried to get me on Gentoo 
  (with my new compilation power of dual core, it wont' be hassle to 
  compile anymore (or so he says:P)) and I don't want kubuntu/ubuntu 
  simply because now I like debian and I'm stubborn :P (it took years 
  for burger to just make me try debian :P)
 
 Isn't ubuntu and diabian basically the same thing? :P From what I read 
 ubuntu just takes a snapsho of debian unstable repo and make it stable 
 with few of their own tweaks.

Yeah exactly, but youness *is* stubborn sometimes :D debian is a bit 
outdated now so ubuntu is really a lot better, and it's debian-based so it 
has all the advantages of debian. +1 from me, Youness, do give Ubuntu a 
go, you can even try it on the livecd!

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Add Contact Disconnection Bug

2006-08-03 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Committed to branch, thanx Ashley for reporting.

In fact, I had seen the newline after the email addresses in the protocol 
log when you pasted it, but I thought it came from the copy-paste or 
something. Thanx for finding the exact cause of the bug!

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Ashley Palmer wrote:

 bug has been fixed.
 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 01:41:36AM -0400 or thereabouts, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  Thank you very much for finding this bug! I'm about to fix it in a few 
  secs...
  ok Fixed in revision 7101
  devels, please try it, test it, I don't have time to even test it, so 
  please do, then commit to branch if all is ok.
  
  Thanks
  KaKaRoTo
  
  On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:20:03PM +0100, Ashley Palmer wrote:
   Hello everybody,
 I found a bug in aMSN 0.96b (RC1), I asked in #amsn on FreeNode and
 got told to contact the dev team.
   
 in the input box in 'Add Contact' if a '\n' is placed at the end of
 the email address, Amsn does not 'crash' it just disconnects from the
 MSN server, 
   'Disconnected: Lost Connection to Server'
 How i found this was by Copying and pasteing an E-Mail Address from
 IRC directly in to the 'Add Contact' box. I closed amsn, deleted .amsn
 started it up again, (regenerating the .amsn dir) the problem is
 consistent. Here is the 'status log'
   
   ---
   [22:41:16] Read EOF in ::NS::Connection1, closing
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ::ns Called
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ::ns called
   [22:41:16] clearing sb ::ns. oldstat=o
   [22:41:16] ::DirectConnectin::Write: SB ns problem when writing to
   the 
   socket: can not find channel named ...
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ns Called
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ns called
   [22:41:16] clearing sb ns. oldstat=d
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ns Called
   [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ns called
   [22:41:16] clearing sb ns. oldstat=d
   [22:41:16] Loging out
   ---
   
   Here is the Protocol Log
   
   ---
   [22:37:39] -ns-sock7 ADC 1263 FL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   
[22:37:39] -ns FAILED: OUT
   
   --
   Email address has been removed.
   
   I hope this is some help
   
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[Amsn-devel] OT: Thanx^2 was Re: Add Contact Disconnection Bug

2006-08-03 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 Thanks Ashley for testing and giving feedback so fast.
 And thanks vivia for commiting to branch.

And of course, thanks Youness for fixing. :D why didn't you thank 
yourself? :P

And now I'm really going to start expecting you to thank me every single 
time I do something as simple and tiny as porting an existing fix to 
branch! (6)

 
 KKRT
 
 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:46:16PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
  
  Committed to branch, thanx Ashley for reporting.
  
  In fact, I had seen the newline after the email addresses in the protocol 
  log when you pasted it, but I thought it came from the copy-paste or 
  something. Thanx for finding the exact cause of the bug!
  
  On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Ashley Palmer wrote:
  
   bug has been fixed.
   On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 01:41:36AM -0400 or thereabouts, Youness Alaoui 
   wrote:
Thank you very much for finding this bug! I'm about to fix it in a few 
secs...
ok Fixed in revision 7101
devels, please try it, test it, I don't have time to even test it, so 
please do, then commit to branch if all is ok.

Thanks
KaKaRoTo

On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:20:03PM +0100, Ashley Palmer wrote:
 Hello everybody,
   I found a bug in aMSN 0.96b (RC1), I asked in #amsn on FreeNode and
   got told to contact the dev team.
 
   in the input box in 'Add Contact' if a '\n' is placed at the end of
   the email address, Amsn does not 'crash' it just disconnects from 
 the
   MSN server, 
 'Disconnected: Lost Connection to Server'
   How i found this was by Copying and pasteing an E-Mail Address from
   IRC directly in to the 'Add Contact' box. I closed amsn, deleted 
 .amsn
   started it up again, (regenerating the .amsn dir) the problem is
   consistent. Here is the 'status log'
 
 ---
 [22:41:16] Read EOF in ::NS::Connection1, closing
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ::ns Called
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ::ns called
 [22:41:16] clearing sb ::ns. oldstat=o
 [22:41:16] ::DirectConnectin::Write: SB ns problem when writing to
 the 
 socket: can not find channel named ...
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ns Called
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ns called
 [22:41:16] clearing sb ns. oldstat=d
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::CloseSB ns Called
 [22:41:16] ::MSN::ClearSB ns called
 [22:41:16] clearing sb ns. oldstat=d
 [22:41:16] Loging out
 ---
 
 Here is the Protocol Log
 
 ---
 [22:37:39] -ns-sock7 ADC 1263 FL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  [22:37:39] -ns FAILED: OUT
 
 --
 Email address has been removed.
 
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[Amsn-devel] Windows guest account

2006-08-07 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Hi,

Someone reported on the forum that the guest account on Windows has 
limited write access to c:\documents and settings\guest - the amsn 
directory with the default settings is created initially, but nothing is 
modified to it then.

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1437 (in French)

I can't think of anything we can do though - does anyone else have any 
ideas?

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[Amsn-devel] Group beginning with whitespace

2006-08-09 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Hello,

Someone on the forum created a group beginning with a whitespace 
(obviously to make it stay on top of the others), aMSN bugged (cannot 
reproduce the bug), and now he cannot delete it (reproduced, group name is 
trimmed). I just can't find where it is int he code and I don't have much 
time, so if someone wants to take over this... I'm very busy lately... 
thanx!

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Inks + ISF

2006-08-10 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
On 8/10/06, Madd Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is the first I've heard of Danny (The mercury guy) stealing code.  I
 was wondering what the grounds for this is?  He can't be literally stealing
 code, aMsn is tcl and he's writing java.  Can somebody actually prove
 anything or is this just bad blood?  I don't personally know him, but I know
 somebody who does, and he has always spoken fairly well of him.  He's even
 helped find and fix some bugs in Bot2k3, a project i'm involved with.

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9207109forum_id=9980

That should be enough to convince you. All I can do now is to confirm
that he is indeed subscribed to amsn-devel, just he never speaks
(Why?)


 On 8/10/06, James Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Your project is listed in sourceforge as GPL. You provide a lisence
 agreement with the package, saying it's GPL. It is illegal for him to steal
 your work and pretend it's his own. It's a license violation.
  If you were to digg/slashdot an article about him violating your license,
 and stealing your code, that might certainly spawn something that would stop
 him...
 
 
 
 
 
  On 10/08/06, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  
   May be this time we shoudn't let Mercury get away with it and start with
 an official letter against mercury, to post on digg, slashdot, and many more
 websites. I'm really sick of all that i'm taking your code and I get all
 the credits.
  
  
   Good work for ISF, you guys rock.
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Jérôme
  
   Courriel:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   iChat  AIM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Skype: germinator5000
  
  
  
   Le 10 août 2006 à 01:46, Ole André Vadla Ravnås a écrit :
  
  
  
   Oh, and let's do a poll: Once aMSN supports this, how long do you think
 it'll take the Mercury-guy to copy it and start bragging about all the hard
 work he put into it? :P
  
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