Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[michael_bentz]

Thank you JBQ! I appreciate the feedback

On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 5:04:18 PM UTC-4, JBQ wrote:
>
> The biggest problem you can have running on 6.0 is expecting that your app 
> has all the permissions it requests, whereas starting with 6.0 the user can 
> revoke some of those permissions, even if you target an earlier version.
>
> That is a great opportunity to ask yourself for every single permission 
> you request: "Can I justify to the end-user which exact functionality is 
> associated with this permission?"
>
> As a smaller problem, 6.0 introduces more possible density values for 
> supported-screens (360 and 420). If you use it anyway in spite of all the 
> warnings, you probably know about it, and probably already know how to fix 
> it.
>
> As you work toward fixing those, you'll probably need to compile against 
> the 6.0 SDK itself. In turn, that means that some deprecated APIs will 
> disappear (Apache HTTP stack). If you can't refactor your code to use a 
> more modern HTTP implementation, there's an official documented workaround 
> (but I don't remember the URI off-hand).
>
> JBQ
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> On Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:26 AM, "michae...@trimble.com " <
> michae...@trimble.com > wrote:
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> I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK and it is having problems running on 
> 6.0 devices. Any suggestions or fixes?
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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

['Jean-Baptiste Queru' via Android Developers]

The biggest problem you can have running on 6.0 is expecting that your app has 
all the permissions it requests, whereas starting with 6.0 the user can revoke 
some of those permissions, even if you target an earlier version.
That is a great opportunity to ask yourself for every single permission you 
request: "Can I justify to the end-user which exact functionality is associated 
with this permission?"
As a smaller problem, 6.0 introduces more possible density values for 
supported-screens (360 and 420). If you use it anyway in spite of all the 
warnings, you probably know about it, and probably already know how to fix it.
As you work toward fixing those, you'll probably need to compile against the 
6.0 SDK itself. In turn, that means that some deprecated APIs will disappear 
(Apache HTTP stack). If you can't refactor your code to use a more modern HTTP 
implementation, there's an official documented workaround (but I don't remember 
the URI off-hand).
JBQ

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On Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:26 AM, "michael_be...@trimble.com" 
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 I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK and it is having problems running on 6.0 
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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[jtoolsdev]

I think we're expected to be psychic.  Just put our Android phone to our 
forehead and we'll immediately know the answers.  There are all kinds of 
reasons that apps break on new versions of Android.  One of the known 
reasons is that things don't work in the real world as they do in Mountain 
View. ;-)

On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 9:01:35 AM UTC-7, TreKing wrote:
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>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:14 AM,  
> wrote:
>
>> You are not here to help, nor understand. You are here to talk down on 
>> people to feel superior.
>
>
> You misunderstand my sense of humor. Not the first time. *shrugs*
>  
>
>> I will not list any problems becausethere is not any.
>
>
> There are no problems? Then why did you post "I have built an app using 
> the 5.1 SDK and it is having *problems* running on 6.0 devices." 
> (emphasis mine).
>  
>
>> TreKing, I am not at the doctor...
>
>
> It's called an analogy.
>  
>
>> I am in a discussion forum, trying to get people to talk about problems 
>> they are having so I can prepare my product for any problems it may 
>> encounter in the FUTURE!!!
>
>
> That is not what you posted. You said you were having problems running on 
> 6.0 and asked for suggestions on fixing these problems with no 
> clarification of what these problems were.
>  
>
>> I have posted the question and topic rephrased in multiple ways to draw 
>> out information, you actually replied to another one! 
>
>
> I don't see anywhere where you reposted or rephrased your question for 
> clarity. I still don't understand if you have a specific problem or are 
> just generically attempting to generically start a generic discussion about 
> generic issues, generically.
>
> Please re-read your own original post and realize you indicated you were 
> having some problems but provided zero indication of what said problems 
> were.
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[TreKing]

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:14 AM,  wrote:

> You are not here to help, nor understand. You are here to talk down on
> people to feel superior.


You misunderstand my sense of humor. Not the first time. *shrugs*


> I will not list any problems becausethere is not any.


There are no problems? Then why did you post "I have built an app using the
5.1 SDK and it is having *problems* running on 6.0 devices." (emphasis
mine).


> TreKing, I am not at the doctor...


It's called an analogy.


> I am in a discussion forum, trying to get people to talk about problems
> they are having so I can prepare my product for any problems it may
> encounter in the FUTURE!!!


That is not what you posted. You said you were having problems running on
6.0 and asked for suggestions on fixing these problems with no
clarification of what these problems were.


> I have posted the question and topic rephrased in multiple ways to draw
> out information, you actually replied to another one!


I don't see anywhere where you reposted or rephrased your question for
clarity. I still don't understand if you have a specific problem or are
just generically attempting to generically start a generic discussion about
generic issues, generically.

Please re-read your own original post and realize you indicated you were
having some problems but provided zero indication of what said problems
were.

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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[michael_bentz]

You are not here to help, nor understand. You are here to talk down on 
people to feel superior. I will not list any problems becausethere is 
not any. TreKing, I am not at the doctor...I am in a discussion forum, 
trying to get people to talk about problems they are having so I can 
prepare my product for any problems it may encounter in the FUTURE!!! I 
have posted the question and topic rephrased in multiple ways to draw out 
information, you actually replied to another one! 


On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:58:06 AM UTC-4, TreKing wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM,  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the sarcastic remark TreKing!!! I really appreciate it.
>>
>
> No problem man, I'm here to help.
>  
>
>> I do not actually have a failing  app, rather I am fishing for possible 
>> errors that other people have encountered for my developers.
>>
>
> So you want people to give you a list of all possible things that could go 
> wrong with a computer program based on "it is having problems"? That 
> doesn't seem practical.
>
> When you see a doctor, do you say "it hurts, now give a list of all things 
> that could be wrong with me"? 
>
> That is right...I am not a developer just researching for my team.
>>
>
> You said "I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK". Posting "I have built 
> an app" in a developer forum without any more information would kinda imply 
> that you are a developer, no?
>  
>
>> Thanks again for the "wealth of detailed information" in which you 
>> replied with!!
>>
>
> No problem. I gave you as much as I could given the lack of information. 
> Notice that you've still not clarified what "it is having problems" means. 
> If you could provide even the slightest bit of detail of what that actually 
> means (network errors? crashes? UI glitches? it became sentient and is 
> cursing at you?) I would be more than happy to attempt to help you resolve 
> your issue.
>
>
> -
> TreKing  - Chicago 
> transit tracking app for Android-powered devices
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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[TreKing]

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks for the sarcastic remark TreKing!!! I really appreciate it.
>

No problem man, I'm here to help.


> I do not actually have a failing  app, rather I am fishing for possible
> errors that other people have encountered for my developers.
>

So you want people to give you a list of all possible things that could go
wrong with a computer program based on "it is having problems"? That
doesn't seem practical.

When you see a doctor, do you say "it hurts, now give a list of all things
that could be wrong with me"?

That is right...I am not a developer just researching for my team.
>

You said "I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK". Posting "I have built an
app" in a developer forum without any more information would kinda imply
that you are a developer, no?


> Thanks again for the "wealth of detailed information" in which you replied
> with!!
>

No problem. I gave you as much as I could given the lack of information.
Notice that you've still not clarified what "it is having problems" means.
If you could provide even the slightest bit of detail of what that actually
means (network errors? crashes? UI glitches? it became sentient and is
cursing at you?) I would be more than happy to attempt to help you resolve
your issue.

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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[michael_bentz]

Thanks for the sarcastic remark TreKing!!! I really appreciate it. I do not 
actually have a failing  app, rather I am fishing for possible errors that 
other people have encountered for my developers. That is right...I am not a 
developer just researching for my team. Thanks again for the "wealth of 
detailed information" in which you replied with!! 

Have a Great Day!

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 11:00:55 AM UTC-4, TreKing wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:24 AM,  
> wrote:
>
>> I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK and it is having problems running 
>> on 6.0 devices. Any suggestions or fixes?
>
>
> Based on the wealth of detailed information you have provided about why 
> your device is not working on 6.0, I can tell you with confidence that the 
> solution is to jump up and down for 30 seconds with your device between 
> your legs.
>
> If that doesn't work, try posting some semblance of details about your 
> issue.
>
> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[TreKing]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:24 AM,  wrote:

> I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK and it is having problems running on
> 6.0 devices. Any suggestions or fixes?


Based on the wealth of detailed information you have provided about why
your device is not working on 6.0, I can tell you with confidence that the
solution is to jump up and down for 30 seconds with your device between
your legs.

If that doesn't work, try posting some semblance of details about your
issue.

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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TreKing  - Chicago
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[android-developers] Why won't my app work on devices running 6.0?

[michael_bentz]

I have built an app using the 5.1 SDK and it is having problems running on 
6.0 devices. Any suggestions or fixes?

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