Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
I would expect it to be easier just to plug a keyboard and monitor into the machine and do the installation 'normally'. Or am I missing something? Yes, This is a headless computer. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb Michael Towers: Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Ofc it's not enough, i myself doesnt even run dhcp at home.. could be nice to get it automated and not have to do ifconfig commands before starting setup / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi sorry guys to disappoint you, you still need user action, the ssh and telnet service will be available but you have to setup hosts.deny or hosts.allow to get access to the machine. You still need to sit in front of the pc at the beginning. greetings tpowa This is a feature that is very easy to implement in larch, you can build a larch CD adapted to your own network environment and access this via ssh to do an Arch installation. I did this once to test it, but under normal circumstances I would expect it to be easier just to plug a keyboard and monitor into the machine and do the installation 'normally'. Or am I missing something? Best Wishes mt ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi same for archboot, you can change those files on your own before burning a self created ISO of course, but as default i have to disable them because it's a security risk and the ppl have to enable it, like they need it. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp00358DKq6p.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb Michael Towers: Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Ofc it's not enough, i myself doesnt even run dhcp at home.. could be nice to get it automated and not have to do ifconfig commands before starting setup / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi sorry guys to disappoint you, you still need user action, the ssh and telnet service will be available but you have to setup hosts.deny or hosts.allow to get access to the machine. You still need to sit in front of the pc at the beginning. greetings tpowa This is a feature that is very easy to implement in larch, you can build a larch CD adapted to your own network environment and access this via ssh to do an Arch installation. I did this once to test it, but under normal circumstances I would expect it to be easier just to plug a keyboard and monitor into the machine and do the installation 'normally'. Or am I missing something? Best Wishes mt ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi same for archboot, you can change those files on your own before burning a self created ISO of course, but as default i have to disable them because it's a security risk and the ppl have to enable it, like they need it. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Its still a nice feature for rescue modes and such.. i know i've been at it to get some machines working and been in dire need of sshd or scp. Not always you can use a cd/dvd burner. / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
[...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
[...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Ofc it's not enough, i myself doesnt even run dhcp at home.. could be nice to get it automated and not have to do ifconfig commands before starting setup / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Ofc it's not enough, i myself doesnt even run dhcp at home.. could be nice to get it automated and not have to do ifconfig commands before starting setup / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi sorry guys to disappoint you, you still need user action, the ssh and telnet service will be available but you have to setup hosts.deny or hosts.allow to get access to the machine. You still need to sit in front of the pc at the beginning. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp9SSqpP0hyA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am Dienstag 30 Januar 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. That's a great feature. Perhaps I'll eventually update my headless computer. Really, there are few distro which allow remote install. I wonder though how network will be configured.. DHCP + fallback configuration ? I don't think DHCP itself is enough. Anyway, thanks Tobias. -- Benoit Myard ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Ofc it's not enough, i myself doesnt even run dhcp at home.. could be nice to get it automated and not have to do ifconfig commands before starting setup / Fredrik Eriksson ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch Hi sorry guys to disappoint you, you still need user action, the ssh and telnet service will be available but you have to setup hosts.deny or hosts.allow to get access to the machine. You still need to sit in front of the pc at the beginning. greetings tpowa This is a feature that is very easy to implement in larch, you can build a larch CD adapted to your own network environment and access this via ssh to do an Arch installation. I did this once to test it, but under normal circumstances I would expect it to be easier just to plug a keyboard and monitor into the machine and do the installation 'normally'. Or am I missing something? Best Wishes mt ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
bardo wrote: Hi all. On the Italian forum someone noticed there's no web browser in the installation system. While this shouldn't normally be a problem, there are some broadband providers that ask for a user/pass in a web page to count the connection time. In Italy in particular there's at least a big provider that I know of (Fastweb) adopting this method, and it's a problem for those who want to install from the ftp cd. Should this be filed as a bug? Or as a feature request? Or not filed at all? An alternative to installing lynx (which is the only one that doesn't have dependencies out of the base category) is including it in base itself, so that a workaround would be installing the base system, and then using it to upgrade once in the installed system. Any comments are appreciated. bardo Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
On Monday 29 January 2007, RedShift wrote: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. You're right. However, adding that kind of software to the install won't make it much heavier so IMHO we should add it. Damnshock pgpxQcMM1EuI2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
On Monday 29 January 2007 11:56:19 bardo wrote: 2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch I agree with the browser if it's easy to implement, it will help many people who also require to view the wiki or some other source for help or resources. Although I don't quite agree with the direct coloration between an internet connection and a web browser, since HTTP is just one of the many features offered via an TCP/IP network, and even the HTTP protocol has many other uses than just browsing... -- Guillermo A. Amaral, BCSE @ site: http://www.guillermoamaral.com/ @ blog: http://blog.guillermoamaral.com/ # nick: thewonka / thewonka81 pgp3BvEHgGhRo.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
2007/1/29, Guillermo A. Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 29 January 2007 11:56:19 bardo wrote: 2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch I agree with the browser if it's easy to implement, it will help many people who also require to view the wiki or some other source for help or resources. Although I don't quite agree with the direct coloration between an internet connection and a web browser, since HTTP is just one of the many features offered via an TCP/IP network, and even the HTTP protocol has many other uses than just browsing... There were few FRs in bugtracker about adding software to Live CD. You should add comment to one of them, or create new FR if all of them are closed now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич) ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
Am Montag 29 Januar 2007 schrieb Roman Kyrylych: 2007/1/29, Guillermo A. Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 29 January 2007 11:56:19 bardo wrote: 2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch I agree with the browser if it's easy to implement, it will help many people who also require to view the wiki or some other source for help or resources. Although I don't quite agree with the direct coloration between an internet connection and a web browser, since HTTP is just one of the many features offered via an TCP/IP network, and even the HTTP protocol has many other uses than just browsing... There were few FRs in bugtracker about adding software to Live CD. You should add comment to one of them, or create new FR if all of them are closed now. Hi yes you don't know about new archboot im workin on, next ISO will have naim and links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpH7S5EWafAI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
On 1/29/07, Tobias Powalowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 29 Januar 2007 schrieb Roman Kyrylych: 2007/1/29, Guillermo A. Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 29 January 2007 11:56:19 bardo wrote: 2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch I agree with the browser if it's easy to implement, it will help many people who also require to view the wiki or some other source for help or resources. Although I don't quite agree with the direct coloration between an internet connection and a web browser, since HTTP is just one of the many features offered via an TCP/IP network, and even the HTTP protocol has many other uses than just browsing... There were few FRs in bugtracker about adding software to Live CD. You should add comment to one of them, or create new FR if all of them are closed now. Hi yes you don't know about new archboot im workin on, next ISO will have naim and links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. greetings tpowa Pretty cool btw. Michel -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
Re: [arch] Text mode web browser in the installation system
On Monday 29 January 2007 19:09:33 Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am Montag 29 Januar 2007 schrieb Roman Kyrylych: 2007/1/29, Guillermo A. Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 29 January 2007 11:56:19 bardo wrote: 2007/1/29, RedShift [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imho that's a pretty lame ISP you've got. Consider switching. Well... sure... it's not my problem, I've got a flat with them, so I don't need to log in, but others do. I think to understand there are technical constraints to this decision, even though their solution is *really* lame. However, I have to admit that needing a connection to the Internet and not having a web browser is pretty atypical, if not improbable. Maybe nobody ever complained about it. bardo ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch I agree with the browser if it's easy to implement, it will help many people who also require to view the wiki or some other source for help or resources. Although I don't quite agree with the direct coloration between an internet connection and a web browser, since HTTP is just one of the many features offered via an TCP/IP network, and even the HTTP protocol has many other uses than just browsing... There were few FRs in bugtracker about adding software to Live CD. You should add comment to one of them, or create new FR if all of them are closed now. Hi yes you don't know about new archboot im workin on, next ISO will have naim and links on ISO + full remote install support through telnet and ssh will be possible. greetings tpowa Thats wicked ^_^ tpowa gains 4000 exp -- Guillermo A. Amaral, BCSE @ site: http://www.guillermoamaral.com/ @ blog: http://blog.guillermoamaral.com/ # nick: thewonka / thewonka81 pgpPf2f6d6Y3m.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ arch mailing list arch@archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
