[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
We have stand alone Odyssey and have not yet been able to make it work properly. We have had very few issues with using ARIEL. Patricia Chapman University of Northern Colorado James A. Michener Library ILL Lending COV patricia.chap...@unco.edu Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Theodore Roosevelt -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
We made the change from Ariel to Relais last January. Relais has the option to send attachments or post to we web. The post to web option is what we use for our end users so the file size is never an issue with this option. With Relais, we can also send to Ariel workstations and receive Ariel transmissions. This way we can still communicate with other libraries who use Ariel. Thank you, Judea d'Arnaud UC San Diego Libraries Interlibrary Loan Department 9500 Gilman Drive 0175L | La Jolla, CA 92093-0175 Phone: 858.534.2528 | Fax: 858.534.4970 i...@ucsd.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Espinoza Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:11 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
I've tried and tried to get Odyssey to work and haven't been able to. I still use ariel. I don't seem to have as much trouble with it as everyone else does. So I will continue to use it for those libraries that still have it and email the others. Sharon Weber Interlibrary Loan Assistant/Porter Henderson Library Angelo State University Member, Texas Tech University System ASU Station #11013 San Angelo, TX 76909 Phone (325)486-6551 Fax (325) 942-2198 Sharon.Weber @angelo.edu These statements are mine and should not reflect on Angelo State University -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=Ariel_Scanners
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Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be okay with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, since anything else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought out rules. Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you are accepting emails, you should know how to (or have an IT person) set your filters to allow for most email addresses... i.e. .edu .org .gov, etc. I run across a gmail address sometimes, but I've never seen AOL, yahoo, msn, etc. in OCLC or Docline. I have maybe one problem every few months with email, but once they put our email address in to be accepted by their filters if doesn't happen again. Now I can understand if you are doing color copies (like art journals) and the files are really large, but we don't have journals like that. This is a fun discussion, I've been wondering about the alternatives others are using. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy Tower Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:35 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s
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Re Ariel email--when those license rules were written, Ariel did not include email to patron. Ariel's email support for sending to the borrowing library emails the article as a multi-page TIFF with a separate header file to what should be a dedicated Ariel email address. Ariel then imports the file into its received queue, ready to be processed for delivery to the patron by whatever method you use. Our .edu email still limits what we can send and receive to a file size that's still too small for many articles. We're also now on Exchange server, and as far as I know, Ariel's email options don't work properly with Exchange. More than ever, Ariel is a program that hasn't kept up with current email options! Joe Ellison Document Delivery and Digital Initiatives Assistant Transportation Library, Northwestern University phone: (847)491-8600 j-elli...@northwestern.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l- boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:54 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be okay with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, since anything else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought out rules. Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you are accepting emails, you should know how to (or have an IT person) set your filters to allow for most email addresses... i.e. .edu .org .gov, etc. I run across a gmail address sometimes, but I've never seen AOL, yahoo, msn, etc. in OCLC or Docline. I have maybe one problem every few months with email, but once they put our email address in to be accepted by their filters if doesn't happen again. Now I can understand if you are doing color copies (like art journals) and the files are really large, but we don't have journals like that. This is a fun discussion, I've been wondering about the alternatives others are using. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l- boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy Tower Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:35 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l- boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l- boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l- boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe
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Another alternative: OCLC's experimental Article Exchange http://experimental.worldcat.org/AE/ It allows you to upload a PDF, then email the password to access it. Very useful when email attachment sizes pose a problem, or when you cannot send via Ariel/Odyssey. Graham Fredrick Information and Technical Assistant Walter E. Helmke Library, Room 163 Indiana University - Purdue University Fort Wayne 260-481-6508 Rickhoff, Terry trickh...@govst.edu 8/18/2011 12:54 PM Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be okay with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, since anything else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought out rules. Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you are accepting emails, you should know how to (or have an IT person) set your filters to allow for most email addresses... i.e. .edu .org .gov, etc. I run across a gmail address sometimes, but I've never seen AOL, yahoo, msn, etc. in OCLC or Docline. I have maybe one problem every few months with email, but once they put our email address in to be accepted by their filters if doesn't happen again. Now I can understand if you are doing color copies (like art journals) and the files are really large, but we don't have journals like that. This is a fun discussion, I've been wondering about the alternatives others are using. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy Tower Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:35 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information
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Hello, In our case, the problem with the size of the e-mails are mostly on our side. When I send too many pdf I have to delete the sent messages or else I get an error message that my database is full. The IT depart. says that we have a very large mailbox already. This is annoying ; when a library contact us a month later to say they never received the article, we have to re-process the request again. With Ariel I can let the sent messages in it for months and just click on release to let them go again. I also like the feature of being able to send either to an Ariel workstation or e-mail pdf to regular e-mail addresses in the same software. But I must admit that Ariel would need a little rejuvenation cure and that from time to time (about 3 times a year), we have strange problems wich sometimes resolve by themselves and sometime not! We use Ariel 4.1 and Window XP Professional. Louise Aubut Technicienne en documentation Bibliothèque de gériatrie et de gérontologie Institut universitaire de gériatrie de Montréal 4565 Queen-Mary Montréal (Québec) H3W 1W5 Téléphone : (514) 340-2800 poste 3262 Télécopieur : (514) 340-2815 Courriel : louise.aubut.i...@.gouv.qc.ca Site Web : www.iugm.qc.ca Rickhoff, Terry trickh...@govst.edu@mailman2.u.washington.edu Envoyé par : arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu 18-08-11 12:54 Veuillez répondre à Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System arie-l@u.washington.edu A Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System arie-l@u.washington.edu cc Objet [Polluriel potentiel] [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be okay with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, since anything else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought out rules. Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you are accepting emails, you should know how to (or have an IT person) set your filters to allow for most email addresses... i.e. .edu .org .gov, etc. I run across a gmail address sometimes, but I've never seen AOL, yahoo, msn, etc. in OCLC or Docline. I have maybe one problem every few months with email, but once they put our email address in to be accepted by their filters if doesn't happen again. Now I can understand if you are doing color copies (like art journals) and the files are really large, but we don't have journals like that. This is a fun discussion, I've been wondering about the alternatives others are using. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy Tower Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:35 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
We just went live with ILLiad and are still using Ariel for those libraries that still use only that. However, if Ariel becomes a problem for us down the road, we will drop it and use Odyssey only. I will send email attachments only if the journal used is not license restricted. Brenda Austin ILL Coordinator University of New England Library (UNB) 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 207-602-2386 Steven Espinoza espin...@csusm.edu 8/18/2011 1:10 PM Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client
[ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?
I was ready to try dropping Ariel last year, but my ILL staff person wanted to continue to use it because of the number of libraries still on it. However, this past summer she relented given the number of documents that now are only delivered to her via email and the number of libraries I've seen dropping Ariel. I think the tipping point has finally arrived... Now if I can just get Stand Alone Odyssey up and running. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heck, Jeffrey Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:21 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We currently use all three and do not look forward to each time we upgrade the box on which Ariel resides. I tried to convince our previous circ/ill manager to drop Ariel but she always felt there were still a sufficient number of libraries that use ONLY Ariel that removing it would be too damaging to service. I wonder where the tipping point is, given the number of libraries that I see drop Ariel each day. Jeff -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Espinoza Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:11 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849
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I agree with Kathy. Most vendors license agreements do not allow email as a delivery methods. They do not mind Ariel and Odyssey even though the end result can be the same. With Ariel and Odyssey the vendors feel confident Libraries will abide by the rules of delivery, such as a print copy to patron. This is my opinion and I could be wrong...With emails the temptation is that many copies can be sent simultaneously and could be widely distributed to non-patrons as well. Sandra DSouza Jefferson Laboratory Library (VWC) 12050 Jefferson Ave., ARC 126B Newport News, VA 23606 757-269-7524 Kathy Tower wrote: For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license agreements do not allow email as a delivery method. They are OK with Ariel or Odyssey however. Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out. Kathy *** Kathy Tower Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan Arizona Health Sciences Library University of Arizona OCLC: AZA DOCLINE: AZUARI 520-626-6840 to...@ahsl.arizona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title
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Odyssey can send and receive tifs and pdfs, and can send and receive files that are too large to import into Ariel. Articles are stored on our ILLiad server for whatever length of time we set up. Our library IT guy doesn't want to ever hear the word Ariel again, or deal with Infotrieve. We rarely send anything via Ariel anymore, would rather receive via Odyssey or email, and will drop Ariel as soon as the antique it's currently running on dies, or accidentally smashes to bits on the floor. 10...9...8...7 Diane Lee Interlibrary Loan Supervisor Oberlin College Library Oberlin, OH 44074 On 8/18/2011 1:27 PM, Andrew Shuping wrote: I was ready to try dropping Ariel last year, but my ILL staff person wanted to continue to use it because of the number of libraries still on it. However, this past summer she relented given the number of documents that now are only delivered to her via email and the number of libraries I've seen dropping Ariel. I think the tipping point has finally arrived... Now if I can just get Stand Alone Odyssey up and running. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Heck, Jeffrey Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:21 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We currently use all three and do not look forward to each time we upgrade the box on which Ariel resides. I tried to convince our previous circ/ill manager to drop Ariel but she always felt there were still a sufficient number of libraries that use ONLY Ariel that removing it would be too damaging to service. I wonder where the tipping point is, given the number of libraries that I see drop Ariel each day. Jeff -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Espinoza Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:11 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working
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The reason is simple most campus e-mail systems restrict the size of attachments, and in some cases strip out the attachment from e-mails sent from outside of the network. PDF files can become very large very quickly depending on the number of pages and if color scans are sent. Also PDF files and multi-page TIFF files can be used as transport for all kinds of cyber-nastiness. So Ariel and Odyssey provide a safe means of transport that bypasses all e-mail restrictions. Richard Sager Library Assistant Macon State College Library Serials Department 100 College Station Dr. Macon, GA 31206 (478) 471-2093 richard.sa...@maconstate.edu Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO! Bill McKenna; Professional Motorcycle Racer, Cycle Magazine Feb. 1982 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, Terry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:22 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Hi all, I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply scanning and emailing articles. Thank you, Terry IAF - ILL Governors Sate Univ. Library -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us, Edward Helmrich Iona College Ryan Library Interlibrary Loan Office 715 North Ave. New Rochelle, NY 10801 VXI, NYULUZ 914-633-2352 docdeliv...@iona.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Receipt by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is not a waiver of any attorney-client, work product, or other applicable privilege.___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L@u.washington.edu Unsubscribe at http://www.arie-l.org#subscribers Archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/arie-l@u.washington.edu/ Scanner recommendations at http://shareill.org/index.php?title=iel_Scanners ___ ARIE-L mailing list Mail the list at ARIE-L
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WE use Odyssey, Ariel 3.4 and e-mail, we even fax and mail. Whatever. We will Ariel until either there are so few that want it or until it dies or becomes incompatible with ILLIAD. We do have a dedicated computer for it. Mary Zettwoch Head, Interlibrary Loan University of Missouri - St. Louis (UMS) Thomas Jefferson Library One University Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63121-4499 U.S.A. (314)-516-5082, fax (314)-516-5853 zettw...@umsl.edu -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Espinoza Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:11 PM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? Today...I am going to work on setting up a new system (Windows 7) and Ariel 4.1.(1?). I work in Systems and not ILL so every three years I read up on the virtues of patience just for this event. As for alternatives, we use ILLIAD and Odyssey too! I have spoken to our Resource Sharing manager and all I can get her to say is they will consider dropping Ariel...next time. So my question is...are many of you using all three or are you making an either or choice? Thank you. - Steve -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Craig, Tom Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:28 AM To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System' Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We continue to use Ariel vs. Odyssey standalone because Ariel allows us to post articles to our web server and automatically notifies the email addressee to that effect. This allows us to scan articles of large file size without having to deal with attachment size limits. Certainly Ariel is unsolvably quirky, but it continues to work acceptably for us. We still use Windows XP and Ariel 3.4. --Tom * Thomas B. Craig, MSLS Director of Library Services Watson W. Wise Medical Research Library University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler phone: 903-877-2864 fax: 903-877-5412 email: thomas.cr...@uthct.edu * Opinions stated are those of the sender and are not official statements of the University of Texas Health Science Center at Tyler. Please do not share or forward without permission. Please inform the sender of misdirected messages. -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Bouchard, Kerry Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:17 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative? We've been using Odyssey and ILLiad for several years with good results. Since the Odyssey component is free, I'm a little puzzled by the number of libraries still using Ariel, given the lack of vendor support - it seems like the vendor abandoned it some time ago. The latest hurdle here has been getting a scanner to work with both Ariel and Windows 7, and I really hate to pour any more hours into Ariel. -Kerry Kerry Bouchard Director of Automated Systems Mary Couts Burnett Library, TCU 817-921-4304 -Original Message- From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, Alexia Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:43 AM To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative? I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that the send to function is not working. After months of working with IT we just cannot figure out what is wrong... That and the fact that Ariel has not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives. What other Ariel-type products are people using and why? We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via OCLC. I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing Odyssey and Illiad. Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off base? Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS Consultant, Medical Library Providence Hospital | Helen L. DeRoy Medical Library Main Phone: 248-849-3294 | Fax: 248-849-3201 | Email: alexia.estabr...@stjohn.org Library Home Page: http://www.intra.providence-hospital.org/MedicalLibrary/ Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. Whatever knowledge we find for you leaves you more time for your patients. Thank you for allowing us to assist you. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message and any accompanying data or files is confidential and may contain privileged information intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that the dissemination, distribution, and or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error
