Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
So.. if the spammer try again it goes on whitelist ?! It doesn't seem good. Does it work in this (bad) way ? No. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
So.. if the spammer try again it goes on whitelist ?! It doesn't seem good. Does it work in this (bad) way ? It goes on the *whitelist for greylisting*, not on the *whitelist*. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Thank you Fritz , Thank you Matti Great explanation and good tactics . I have still to understand how to read the maillog.txt to understand which email where denied by greylisting . I must search for bounce delayed ? Thanks ! On 2/2/07, Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.. if the spammer try again it goes on whitelist ?! It doesn't seem good. Does it work in this (bad) way ? It goes on the *whitelist for greylisting*, not on the *whitelist*. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: I must search for bounce delayed ? no, you must search for delayed - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
You have to look for something like this: Feb-2-07 11:11:18 86.90.243.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipient delayed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or if you delay a bounce message (comming from null sender (email Adress: ) which are normaly (often faked) postmaster messages) Feb-1-07 00:10:08 203.209.210.10 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed So as fritz told while I am writing this: look for delayed. Matti Thank you Fritz , Thank you Matti Great explanation and good tactics . I have still to understand how to read the maillog.txt to understand which email where denied by greylisting . I must search for bounce delayed ? Thanks ! On 2/2/07, Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.. if the spammer try again it goes on whitelist ?! It doesn't seem good. Does it work in this (bad) way ? It goes on the *whitelist for greylisting*, not on the *whitelist*. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Matti Haack - Hit Haack IT Service Gmbh Poltlbauer Weg 4, D-94036 Passau +49 851 50477-22 Fax: +49 851 50477-29 http://www.haack-it.de Registergericht Passau HRB 5678 USt. ID: DE195625715 Besuchen Sie jetzt unseren neuen INTERNETNETWORK Security Shop mit faszinierenden Angeboten rund um Ihre Netzwerk- Sicherheit: http://www.inn.de -- Ausgehende E-Mail wurde auf Viren gescannt -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Thank you . When I grep for delayed I receive only lines like these Feb-2-07 09:50:55 204.228.236.18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed I have no recipient delayed: message . Probably because I activate delaying yesterday and have still to pass the Wait time of 28 hours. After this time I should start to receive delayed errors Thanks On 2/2/07, Matti Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to look for something like this: Feb-2-07 11:11:18 86.90.243.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipient delayed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or if you delay a bounce message (comming from null sender (email Adress: ) which are normaly (often faked) postmaster messages) Feb-1-07 00:10:08 203.209.210.10 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed So as fritz told while I am writing this: look for delayed. Matti Thank you Fritz , Thank you Matti Great explanation and good tactics . I have still to understand how to read the maillog.txt to understand which email where denied by greylisting . I must search for bounce delayed ? Thanks ! On 2/2/07, Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.. if the spammer try again it goes on whitelist ?! It doesn't seem good. Does it work in this (bad) way ? It goes on the *whitelist for greylisting*, not on the *whitelist*. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Matti Haack - Hit Haack IT Service Gmbh Poltlbauer Weg 4, D-94036 Passau +49 851 50477-22 Fax: +49 851 50477-29 http://www.haack-it.de Registergericht Passau HRB 5678 USt. ID: DE195625715 Besuchen Sie jetzt unseren neuen INTERNETNETWORK Security Shop mit faszinierenden Angeboten rund um Ihre Netzwerk- Sicherheit: http://www.inn.de -- Ausgehende E-Mail wurde auf Viren gescannt -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
It was unchecked (!) . Thank you I'll check now what happens. On 2/2/07, Wim Borghs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/2/2, Ethan Albone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you . When I grep for delayed I receive only lines like these Feb-2-07 09:50:55 204.228.236.18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed I have no recipient delayed: message . Probably because I activate delaying yesterday and have still to pass the Wait time of 28 hours. After this time I should start to receive delayed errors No... Should see them immediately Do you have Logging Enable Greylisting/Delaying logging set? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
ok now works , I think that I was confusing embargo time with wait time- So the emabago time is ; assp send a soft fail (try later) If the sender don't resend again during the embargo time the email will be declined. Is it correct ? On 2/2/07, Ethan Albone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was unchecked (!) . Thank you I'll check now what happens. On 2/2/07, Wim Borghs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/2/2, Ethan Albone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you . When I grep for delayed I receive only lines like these Feb-2-07 09:50:55 204.228.236.18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed I have no recipient delayed: message . Probably because I activate delaying yesterday and have still to pass the Wait time of 28 hours. After this time I should start to receive delayed errors No... Should see them immediately Do you have Logging Enable Greylisting/Delaying logging set? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Work fine ... loveable ! Yesterday I tried 1.2.7.8(5) and works great . All the filters and all the spamlovers seems to works fine . Thanks! (I have only the problem with log file , some grep returns me a strange binary error .) On 2/2/07, Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: I must search for bounce delayed ? no, you must search for delayed - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
From: Matti Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] But if the spammer retries, he will be accepted for a smtp handshake. If it fails (Bad Helo, Errorrs etc.) he will be dropped and PB score will rise and his Greyliting entry is deleted, so he has to try at least 2 more times. Are they RBL tested again? Bro - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Are they RBL tested again? why not? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
From: Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Are they RBL tested again? why not? I can't think of a reason why not. I was hoping they would be checked again as they may now be on one of the RBL lists. Bro - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
I was hoping they would be checked again as they may now be on one of the RBL lists. There is obvious a complete misunderstanding what part delaying/greylisting plays. It has *nothing* to do with any checks ASSP is doing after the message is accepted. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
EA The default time is 5 minutes . What does it means ? EA With an example if someone send me and email at EA 10:50 AM will I not receive this email before EA 10:55 AM ?! If the sender is not on your Whitelist: Yes If he is on your whitelist, because you mailed him before or he sends you an email before, the mail will not be delayed. I set my embargo time to 1 minutes and didn't find any negative influences. The time is the minimal time. If the sending server has longer retry times, the mail will be even later. But most mailers seem to have a retry time of 5 minutes or so for the first retry. Matti -- Matti Haack - Hit Haack IT Service Gmbh Poltlbauer Weg 4, D-94036 Passau +49 851 50477-22 Fax: +49 851 50477-29 http://www.haack-it.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Thank you , clear. Please can you explain me what does means it (bounce delayed) ? Feb-1-07 17:37:36 65.54.246.239 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed I received it few minutes after I activated dealying. Thank you On 2/1/07, Matti Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EA The default time is 5 minutes . What does it means ? EA With an example if someone send me and email at EA 10:50 AM will I not receive this email before EA 10:55 AM ?! If the sender is not on your Whitelist: Yes If he is on your whitelist, because you mailed him before or he sends you an email before, the mail will not be delayed. I set my embargo time to 1 minutes and didn't find any negative influences. The time is the minimal time. If the sending server has longer retry times, the mail will be even later. But most mailers seem to have a retry time of 5 minutes or so for the first retry. Matti -- Matti Haack - Hit Haack IT Service Gmbh Poltlbauer Weg 4, D-94036 Passau +49 851 50477-22 Fax: +49 851 50477-29 http://www.haack-it.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
I could be wrong but Delaying works on the idea that a correctly configured SMTP server will attempt re-delivery of an email message if it gets a soft failure. ASSP is intentially returning a 451 error which requests deliverly again later. If the sending mail server is correctly configured it will reattempt deliver in X number of minutes. (Depends upon config) If the server waits and redelivers, the triplet (email address, domain, IP) gets whitelisted. The assumption is that the Spammer probably won't try again. I have my server set to 1 minute as even 5 was causing valid servers to get flagged as spamming. Again I could be wrong but I think that is right based on my understanding. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ethan Albone Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:39 PM To: Matti Haack; Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ? Thank you , clear. Please can you explain me what does means it (bounce delayed) ? Feb-1-07 17:37:36 65.54.246.239 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounce delayed I received it few minutes after I activated dealying. Thank you On 2/1/07, Matti Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EA The default time is 5 minutes . What does it means ? EA With an example if someone send me and email at 10:50 AM will I EA not receive this email before EA 10:55 AM ?! If the sender is not on your Whitelist: Yes If he is on your whitelist, because you mailed him before or he sends you an email before, the mail will not be delayed. I set my embargo time to 1 minutes and didn't find any negative influences. The time is the minimal time. If the sending server has longer retry times, the mail will be even later. But most mailers seem to have a retry time of 5 minutes or so for the first retry. Matti -- Matti Haack - Hit Haack IT Service Gmbh Poltlbauer Weg 4, D-94036 Passau +49 851 50477-22 Fax: +49 851 50477-29 http://www.haack-it.de -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=1216 42 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Carnes, Jim wrote: I have my server set to 1 minute as even 5 was causing valid servers to get flagged as spamming. Delaying does not cause connecting servers to get flagged as spamming. There is no penalty box score or otherwise. The only detrimental effect from delaying is that depending on the sending server, the sender may be notified that the message was delayed - via a standard SMTP message status report. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ?
Keep in mind that the retry time is whatever the sending server is configured for. I have my embargo set to 5min, but have seen sending servers take up to 45 min to retry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ethan Albone Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:46 AM To: Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Assp-user] Embargo Time ? I'm trying the delaying filter. I have a doubt about Embargo Time The default time is 5 minutes . What does it means ? With an example if someone send me and email at 10:50 AM will I not receive this email before 10:55 AM ?! If yes, is it not better an embargo of 1 or 2 minutes ? make difference for the spammer an embargo time of 1 minute with an embargo time of 5 minutes ? Thanks - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo time
On 28 Nov 2006 at 1:10, brougham Baker wrote: From: Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be an interesting approach to start for 3 to 4 weeks with 0 min. That's what I've done currently to get the corpus up as it really cuts down on the Spam I get. But there's a big difference between a 0 min delay and turning it off altogether. For years I NEVER got any Spam except on the newsgroup addresses, until I reported about 20 Spam to spamcop, a couple of days after that the floodgates opened. There's a cautionary tale there, somewhere :) paul - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo time
I agree. I find 5 minutes to be quite versitile. It avoids a vast majority of spam while not being long enough to periodically annoy my users. -- ME2 (wireless) -Original Message- From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, Nov 27, 2006 6:35 pm Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Embargo time Dave Emory wrote: What's the effect of using various embargo time durations, say, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 60 minutes? Are there any servers known to bounce mail if they don't get a connection in less than a minute? I'm wondering if this parameter should allow fractions of a minute to be entered via the web interface. An embargo time of less that 1 minute is pretty much useless in my experience. Most retries that hammer my server are just a tad over 60 seconds (ex: waited: 1m 9s). Personally I use an embargo time of 5 min(the default) and have no issues with it. Kevin - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join S - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo time
From: Micheal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree. I find 5 minutes to be quite versitile. It avoids a vast majority of spam while not being long enough to periodically annoy my users. This is why I can't wait for the mySQL stuff- so that I can easily do stats on things like this. I saw that I was still getting a lot of spam coming back after about 5 mins 9 secs so I up'ed it to 7 mins and get far less. Bro - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
Re: [Assp-user] Embargo time
From: Fritz Borgstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be an interesting approach to start for 3 to 4 weeks with 0 min. That's what I've done currently to get the corpus up as it really cuts down on the Spam I get. Also my MTA rejects invalid senders- I get loads of Spam to address that have never existed on my domain. So I grep those logs for these addresses and add them to the spamtrap list. For years I NEVER got any Spam except on the newsgroup addresses, until I reported about 20 Spam to spamcop, a couple of days after that the floodgates opened. Bro - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
