Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Dave Donovan

If you felt like playing around for a while, you could just put your * box
on speed dial and play with a voice dial application on Asterisk.

I've never done it but I'm sure there are some resources out there.  Simon
did a presentation on his Speech rec system. I'm sure there are notes on the
website.

... wait a minute.  I seem to remember there being a caveat about cel phone
audio not working well with the Sphynx.  Hmmm.  It would bear some research
before you got too invested.

Just a thought,
Dave

On 7/9/07, David Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everyone,

I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take advantage of
their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5 Canadian DIDs (plus
long distance fees, where applicable).

I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service (authenticated!), so
all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if I can be bothered to key
in the phone number each time.  As an aside - anyone have any neat DISA
dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new call to frequently called
numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend my numbers in my cell phone
with the DISA number, password, etc?

Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this post.  Can
someone let me know if there is any way around the following problem:  to
qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I initiate or forward from
my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As Rogers doesn't seem to support
caller ID names (only numbers), this means I won't be able to tell who is
calling, or whose calls I have missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

Thanks,
Dave.




Re: Sangoma A101 and Asterisk 1.4

2007-07-10 Thread Liviu Toma

I am still having issues with my Sangoma T1 PRI card, so I'm hoping someone
could give me some suggestions.
In the meantime I reinstalled everything from scratch, recompiled a new
kernel, and installed Asterisk 1.2.20 instead of 1.4.6. Now when I open a an
Asterisk console, it logs this message every second or so

 == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
 == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up
 == Primary D-Channel on span 1 up

However the D channel still shows down on the switch. I am guessing it't
going up and down very fast.

Thanks,
Liviu

On 7/4/07, Liviu Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I have a problem with Asterisk 1.4 and a Sangoma T1 card (A101). Basically
I can't make the D channel come up no matter what I tried.
I installed the Zaptel driver, the Libpri and the wanpipe driver following
the instructions on Sangoma's web site:
http://wiki.sangoma.com/wanpipe-linux-asterisk-install
The Sangoma card is connected to an Adtran Atlas 550 phone switch which is
also in our office, so I can configure it anyway I want. Both the switch and
the card are set to DMS100. I let the wanpipe setup create the configuration
files, including the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf.
One other thing I noiced, is that the zaptel.conf file created by the
Sangoma setup was showing
span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs
while according to the ztcfg.conf explanation from the sample file, if the
clock is coming from the remote end (in my case the Adtran switch), it
should be:
span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs
So I tried changing that as well, but it didn't make a difference.
The light on the Sangoma card is green, which I assume it means that it
can see the clock from my switch.
If I run *ztcfg -v* it reports

Zaptel Version: 1.4.3
Echo Canceller: MG2
Configuration
==

SPAN 1: ESF/B8ZS Build-out: 0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)

24 channels configured.

Also *wanrouter status * reports

Devices currently active:
wanpipe1

Wanpipe Config:

Device name | Protocol Map | Adapter  | IRQ | Slot/IO | If's | CLK | Baud
rate |
wanpipe1| N/A  | A101/2   | 22  | 0   | 1| EXT |
0 |

Wanrouter Status:

Device name | Protocol | Station | Status|
wanpipe1| AFT HDLC | N/A | Connected |

One interesting thing I noticed: I have another server running Asterisk
1.2 and a TE110P clone card. On that system I can run *zap show channels* in
the asterisk CLI and I get a list of the channels. On the Asterisk 1.4box, it 
tells me the command is not valid. Am I missing a module or the
command was removed ?

Thanks,
Liviu




Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin, Legends

As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), ...
-- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider in North
American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was involved to
deliver this service to Rogers. :)


On 7/9/07, David Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everyone,

I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take advantage of
their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5 Canadian DIDs (plus
long distance fees, where applicable).

I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service (authenticated!), so
all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if I can be bothered to key
in the phone number each time.  As an aside - anyone have any neat DISA
dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new call to frequently called
numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend my numbers in my cell phone
with the DISA number, password, etc?

Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this post.  Can
someone let me know if there is any way around the following problem:  to
qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I initiate or forward from
my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As Rogers doesn't seem to support
caller ID names (only numbers), this means I won't be able to tell who is
calling, or whose calls I have missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

Thanks,
Dave.




Re: [on-asterisk] Long-length FXS adapters?

2007-07-10 Thread Steven McCann

Thank you for your replies Chuck and Cedric. I think it will be helpful to
speak to some vendors or tech support with these types of products, and I
will try to give them a call in the next few days. Hopefully I can find
something that won't be too pricey :-)

Regards,
Steven



On 7/7/07, Cedric Puddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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My experience has been that specific purpose hardware is required --
on my old Redwood system (oog.  Anyone miss those?  If so, I have
one ... :) there were specialized cards that provided OPX (Off-
Premise eXtension) ports for such purposes.

This OPX line box (Model# 46222  46224 Long Loop Adapters) are
specified to provide a 30 kft line length.  (No Idea on price, No
Personal experience with the product -- found on google :):
http://www.proctorinc.com/46222.htm

These fellows comment specifically on the above (they say the
46222/46224 don't pass caller id, for example), and provide various
technical tidbits, etc.  Like BlackBox, they also seem like they
would be the sort of people you could call and talk to:
http://www.sandman.com/longloop.html

A similar box that does it over fibre (less likely to be helpful here):
http://www.arcelect.com/Fiber_Telephone_modem_Line_Extender.htm

Also, a range of Wireless Boxes (using things like CDMA as the link-
level protocol) -- kinda pricey, and not likely to be your best fit:
http://www.oksolar.com/n_cart/search.asp ?
cat=Communicationssubcat=Phone%20Extender

Especially with the first two pages, there should be more than enough
key words to ferret more info out of Google, and there's a few people
that would be promising to call, etc.

I hope that helps!

Best Regards,

-Cedric

On 7-Jul-07, at 8:51 PM, Chuck Mariotti wrote:

 I hope you get an answer from the group…



 Over the years, sometimes when I run into these types of issues,
 I end up calling BlackBox's (www.blackbox.com) technical line and
 ask them. Usually with great success. Not trying to plug for their
 products (although they do have some amazing stuff), just a plug
 for their free technical support/consulting on the phone. Usually,
 I ask them about which products would allow me to do XYZ. Explain
 the problem… sometimes they say you don't need a product, what you
 have will work, etc…



 Good luck!



 Regards,

 Chuck



 From: Steven McCann [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: July-07-07 4:58 PM
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Long-length FXS adapters?



 Hello All,

 Does anyone know the length you can run a FXS extension on copper
 cable pair (24 AWG)?

 I'm replacing a Nortel legacy PBX with an Asterisk server. Most of
 the lines are IP, but some of the extensions are outdoors in
 different buildings, up to 1500ft. If possible I would like to use
 an external analogue adapter for these extensions.

 I've check the techinal specs on the Grandstream GXW-4008 8-port
 FXS, and it lists a specification (REN 3 - Up to 150ft Short and
 Long Haul). I've tried to dig around on the net for information on
 max cable runs and Short and Long Haul, but haven't been able to
 find much.

 Could something like a SPA-2100 work, or a TDM400 card with FXS ports?


 Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 Regards,
 Steven



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Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Bill Sandiford
With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not inbound, 
unless its from another Rogers cell phone.

Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and I only 
get CallerID Number, no name.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin, Legends 
  To: David Steele 
  Cc: asterisk@uc.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


  As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), ...
  -- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider in North 
American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was involved to deliver 
this service to Rogers. :)



  On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,

I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take advantage of their 
new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5 Canadian DIDs (plus long 
distance fees, where applicable). 

I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service (authenticated!), so 
all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if I can be bothered to key in 
the phone number each time.  As an aside - anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan 
logic that makes initiating a new call to frequently called numbers easier? Or 
should I simply pre-pend my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, 
password, etc? 

Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this post.  Can 
someone let me know if there is any way around the following problem:  to 
qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I initiate or forward from my 
PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller 
ID names (only numbers), this means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or 
whose calls I have missed.  Can anyone see a way around this? 

Thanks,
Dave.





Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Liviu Toma

According to the Rogers website, the call display with name and number is
a different option (which costs $2 more) than the regular call display with
number only. Also, it's supported only on certain handsets:
http://shoprogersfaq.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/shoprogersfaq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=6EJ__cGip_lva=4923p_faqid=4923p_created=1133300370p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9OCZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PU5hbWVfRGlzcGxheSZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT03NyZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMj1_YW55fiZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**p_li
=

Liviu

On 7/9/07, Bill Sandiford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.

Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and I
only get CallerID Number, no name.


- Original Message -
*From:* Kevin, Legends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* David Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Cc:* asterisk@uc.org
*Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
*Subject:* Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), ...
-- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider in North
American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was involved to
deliver this service to Rogers. :)


On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take advantage of
 their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5 Canadian DIDs (plus
 long distance fees, where applicable).

 I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service (authenticated!), so
 all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if I can be bothered to key
 in the phone number each time.  As an aside - anyone have any neat DISA
 dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new call to frequently called
 numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend my numbers in my cell phone
 with the DISA number, password, etc?

 Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this post.  Can
 someone let me know if there is any way around the following problem:  to
 qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I initiate or forward from
 my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As Rogers doesn't seem to support
 caller ID names (only numbers), this means I won't be able to tell who is
 calling, or whose calls I have missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

 Thanks,
 Dave.





RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Nabeel Jafferali
Name Display is an additional service on Rogers which you have to subscribe
to, and your handset needs to support it as well.

Doesn't work for me (my handset does not support it nor do I pay for the
additional service), but when calling from our PRI to a friend's Rogers
Blackberry Curve, they do see the name sent from our PRI, even when I change
it from call to call.

Nabeel

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Sandiford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: July 9, 2007 11:20 PM
 To: Kevin, Legends; David Steele
 Cc: asterisk@uc.org
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing
 
 With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
 inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.
 
 Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and
 I only get CallerID Number, no name.
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Kevin, Legends mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: David Steele mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: asterisk@uc.org
   Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing
 
   As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only
 numbers), ...
   -- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider
 in North American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was
 involved to deliver this service to Rogers. :)
 
 
 
   On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
   Hi everyone,
 
   I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take
 advantage of their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5
 Canadian DIDs (plus long distance fees, where applicable).
 
   I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service
 (authenticated!), so all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if
 I can be bothered to key in the phone number each time.  As an aside -
 anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new
 call to frequently called numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend
 my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, password, etc?
 
   Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this
 post.  Can someone let me know if there is any way around the following
 problem:  to qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I
 initiate or forward from my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As
 Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), this
 means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or whose calls I have
 missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?
 
   Thanks,
   Dave.
 
 
 




Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Bill Sandiford

I pay for it.

I get caller name from other Rogers Wireless Customers
I get caller name from other Rogers Home Phone or Business Customers
I get caller name from a call originated by a Rogers PRI

I don't get caller name for anything else.

- Original Message - 
From: Nabeel Jafferali [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


Name Display is an additional service on Rogers which you have to 
subscribe

to, and your handset needs to support it as well.

Doesn't work for me (my handset does not support it nor do I pay for the
additional service), but when calling from our PRI to a friend's Rogers
Blackberry Curve, they do see the name sent from our PRI, even when I 
change

it from call to call.

Nabeel


-Original Message-
From: Bill Sandiford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 9, 2007 11:20 PM
To: Kevin, Legends; David Steele
Cc: asterisk@uc.org
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.

Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and
I only get CallerID Number, no name.


- Original Message -
From: Kevin, Legends mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Steele mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only
numbers), ...
-- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider
in North American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was
involved to deliver this service to Rogers. :)



On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take
advantage of their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5
Canadian DIDs (plus long distance fees, where applicable).

I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service
(authenticated!), so all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if
I can be bothered to key in the phone number each time.  As an aside -
anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new
call to frequently called numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend
my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, password, etc?

Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this
post.  Can someone let me know if there is any way around the following
problem:  to qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I
initiate or forward from my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As
Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), this
means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or whose calls I have
missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

Thanks,
Dave.







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Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast

Hey Bill !

Some things at Rogers will never change!  :)So this means that Rogers 
can technically offer this service to all Rogers clients for free as a value 
added service --  but is completely useless, if the call originates from 
outside the Rogers network!


I'd classify this as technically un-ethical.

Cheers!
Reza.



- Original Message - 
From: Bill Sandiford [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing



I pay for it.

I get caller name from other Rogers Wireless Customers
I get caller name from other Rogers Home Phone or Business Customers
I get caller name from a call originated by a Rogers PRI

I don't get caller name for anything else.

- Original Message - 
From: Nabeel Jafferali [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


Name Display is an additional service on Rogers which you have to 
subscribe

to, and your handset needs to support it as well.

Doesn't work for me (my handset does not support it nor do I pay for the
additional service), but when calling from our PRI to a friend's Rogers
Blackberry Curve, they do see the name sent from our PRI, even when I 
change

it from call to call.

Nabeel


-Original Message-
From: Bill Sandiford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 9, 2007 11:20 PM
To: Kevin, Legends; David Steele
Cc: asterisk@uc.org
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.

Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and
I only get CallerID Number, no name.


- Original Message -
From: Kevin, Legends mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Steele mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only
numbers), ...
-- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider
in North American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was
involved to deliver this service to Rogers. :)



On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take
advantage of their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5
Canadian DIDs (plus long distance fees, where applicable).

I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service
(authenticated!), so all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if
I can be bothered to key in the phone number each time.  As an aside -
anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new
call to frequently called numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend
my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, password, etc?

Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this
post.  Can someone let me know if there is any way around the following
problem:  to qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I
initiate or forward from my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As
Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), this
means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or whose calls I have
missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

Thanks,
Dave.







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Re: [on-asterisk] Long-length FXS adapters?

2007-07-10 Thread Martin Glazer

Steve,

I just came across and used a product called an Ethernet extender - I
needed 600ft. and it claims to do upto 6000 ft.It works very well at my
client site and I believe it can do a single voice line as well. It only
needs 1 pair telephone wiring or better. Cost all in was about CDN$400.

Take a look here:
http://www.ethernetextender.com/ethernet extenders/890.php

HTH

Martin

Steven McCann wrote:

Hello All,

Does anyone know the length you can run a FXS extension on copper cable 
pair (24 AWG)?


I'm replacing a Nortel legacy PBX with an Asterisk server. Most of the 
lines are IP, but some of the extensions are outdoors in different 
buildings, up to 1500ft. If possible I would like to use an external 
analogue adapter for these extensions.


I've check the techinal specs on the Grandstream GXW-4008 8-port FXS, 
and it lists a specification (REN 3 - Up to 150ft Short and Long Haul). 
I've tried to dig around on the net for information on max cable runs 
and Short and Long Haul, but haven't been able to find much.


Could something like a SPA-2100 work, or a TDM400 card with FXS ports?


Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Regards,
Steven




Can POTS Rollover lines also roll to SIP provider

2007-07-10 Thread Cliff Hirsch
HI,

 

I have been told that it is not possible to have POTS line roll over to
my Unlimitel account. Is there any way to have two POTS lines rollover
or call forward on busy, when a  third call comes in the call gets
forward to an Unlimitel account. 

 

I have heard of using a Single number reach service from bell to do
forwarding tricks, anyone tried that ?

 

TIA.

Cliff 



Re: [on-asterisk] Long-length FXS adapters?

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 07 July 2007 4:58 pm, Steven McCann wrote:
 Does anyone know the length you can run a FXS extension on copper cable
 pair (24 AWG)?

I would personally recommend proper telco-grade hardware for anything like 
this.  For FXS, a TE110P and a Carrier Access Access Bank I would be perfect, 
and reasonably priced on ebay.  It's highly unlikely that you'll need any 
kind of echo cancellation on a length that short, and the ABI can drive long 
lines.  You don't need to worry about disconnect supervision or anything on 
FXS ports, either, which is why you can get away with the older ABI and ABII 
instead of moving up to the Adit600.

Adtran and Rhino make FXS channel banks as well, and Xorcom makes a 
USB channel bank as well, but I have not used any of these products.

If you're running between buildings you may also need to worry about grounding 
and protection.  I'd need to know more information to be able to tell you 
anything concrete, but yeah, for under $500 you can have yourself 24 ports of 
telco-grade FXS to play with.

(channel banks and fax machines also get along great, if that is a concern.)

-A.


Re: [on-asterisk] Can POTS Rollover lines also roll to SIP provider

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 8:02 am, Cliff Hirsch wrote:
 I have been told that it is not possible to have POTS line roll over to
 my Unlimitel account. Is there any way to have two POTS lines rollover
 or call forward on busy, when a  third call comes in the call gets
 forward to an Unlimitel account.

Yes, this equivilancy or ringdown or call-forward-busy is pretty standard on 
any kind of business line.  You simply tell your POTS provider that 555-1234 
is to ring down to 555-1235 and that 555-1235 is to ring down to 555-8647, 
which is your DID at Unlimitel.

Now where you may run into trouble is if your Unlimitel DID is not local to 
your POTS lines, and I've heard of (but never personally seen) instances of 
where they would not forward to numbers outside of their local switch.  I 
suspect some hunting around and question-asking is needed to fully define 
that particular case.

 I have heard of using a Single number reach service from bell to do
 forwarding tricks, anyone tried that ?

Nah, never used it.  I give people my Unlimitel DID and let Asterisk do it for 
me.  :-)

-A.


Re: [on-asterisk] Can POTS Rollover lines also roll to SIP provider

2007-07-10 Thread David Cook

It is very possible.

I have my POTS line Busy-CFWD to my Unlimitel number. It was painful 
customer service experience, but I finally got someone at Bell who 
understood what I wanted as it is not an actively marketed feature.


So now POTS and Unlimitel terminate on the same treatment within 
Asterisk so we fully support multiple lines at the house.


And to boot, it's cheaper than any of the other services Bell are 
marketing to us.


dbc.
Cliff Hirsch wrote:


HI,

 

I have been told that it is not possible to have POTS line roll over 
to my Unlimitel account. Is there any way to have two POTS lines 
rollover or call forward on busy, when a  third call comes in the call 
gets forward to an Unlimitel account.


 

I have heard of using a Single number reach service from bell to do 
forwarding tricks, anyone tried that ?


 


TIA.

Cliff





RE: [on-asterisk] Can POTS Rollover lines also roll to SIP provider

2007-07-10 Thread Dave Bour
DO NOT TAKE THE SNR SERVICE
Sorry for shouting but to say it bluntly, I've never seen such dismal
service 
 
I'm trying to get off it right now.  
 
Clients constantly getting Customer Not Available... disconnect. or
This number is not in service...
I redirect to my cell phone...phone busy...(with voicemail)...call
incoming...no call waiting on the phone..simply Customer not
available...disconnect.
 
I'm getting daily disconnects of services right now...
 
I'm so frustrated..They can't port the number to even a hard line...
It's been my business line for 12 years now...but it's going to second
contact number as soon as I get another line installed (hard line) when
I find a bit of free time to deal with Bell...
 
Dave



From: Cliff Hirsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:03 AM
To: asterisk@uc.org
Subject: [on-asterisk] Can POTS Rollover lines also roll to SIP provider



HI,

 

I have been told that it is not possible to have POTS line roll over to
my Unlimitel account. Is there any way to have two POTS lines rollover
or call forward on busy, when a  third call comes in the call gets
forward to an Unlimitel account. 

 

I have heard of using a Single number reach service from bell to do
forwarding tricks, anyone tried that ?

 

TIA.

Cliff 



openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Simon P. Ditner
Mmm, linux phone. I realize that this isn't likely to have large market
appeal (in the near future at least), but it's so cool!

Is anyone thinking of getting one?

http://www.openmoko.com/products-index.html

I can hardly wait for their v2 coming out this fall with WiFi.


Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 11:24 am, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
 Mmm, linux phone. I realize that this isn't likely to have large market
 appeal (in the near future at least), but it's so cool!

 Is anyone thinking of getting one?

 http://www.openmoko.com/products-index.html

 I can hardly wait for their v2 coming out this fall with WiFi.

I'm waiting for V2.  I want the wifi and SOC, and I'm actually willing to go 
to Rogers to use this thing, even though it's slow.

-A.


Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Richard \(Rogers @ work\)
Is it a gsm phone?  Or can one it with Telus?

Richard
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:24 AM
Subject: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!


 Mmm, linux phone. I realize that this isn't likely to have large market
 appeal (in the near future at least), but it's so cool!
 
 Is anyone thinking of getting one?
 
 http://www.openmoko.com/products-index.html
 
 I can hardly wait for their v2 coming out this fall with WiFi.
 
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Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Richard \(Rogers @ work\)
I think Unlimitel is on of Rogers' network.  I wonder if it will be a free
call if the CID is set to one's own cell no or one of the My5 nos?

Richard
- Original Message - 
From: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


 Hey Bill !

 Some things at Rogers will never change!  :)So this means that Rogers
 can technically offer this service to all Rogers clients for free as a
value
 added service --  but is completely useless, if the call originates from
 outside the Rogers network!

 I'd classify this as technically un-ethical.

 Cheers!
 Reza.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bill Sandiford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


 I pay for it.
 
  I get caller name from other Rogers Wireless Customers
  I get caller name from other Rogers Home Phone or Business Customers
  I get caller name from a call originated by a Rogers PRI
 
  I don't get caller name for anything else.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nabeel Jafferali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: asterisk@uc.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing
 
 
  Name Display is an additional service on Rogers which you have to
  subscribe
  to, and your handset needs to support it as well.
 
  Doesn't work for me (my handset does not support it nor do I pay for
the
  additional service), but when calling from our PRI to a friend's Rogers
  Blackberry Curve, they do see the name sent from our PRI, even when I
  change
  it from call to call.
 
  Nabeel
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Sandiford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: July 9, 2007 11:20 PM
  To: Kevin, Legends; David Steele
  Cc: asterisk@uc.org
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing
 
  With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
  inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.
 
  Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and
  I only get CallerID Number, no name.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin, Legends mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: David Steele mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: asterisk@uc.org
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing
 
  As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only
  numbers), ...
  -- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider
  in North American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was
  involved to deliver this service to Rogers. :)
 
 
 
  On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take
  advantage of their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5
  Canadian DIDs (plus long distance fees, where applicable).
 
  I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service
  (authenticated!), so all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if
  I can be bothered to key in the phone number each time.  As an aside -
  anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new
  call to frequently called numbers easier? Or should I simply
pre-pend
  my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, password, etc?
 
  Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this
  post.  Can someone let me know if there is any way around the
following
  problem:  to qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I
  initiate or forward from my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As
  Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), this
  means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or whose calls I have
  missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?
 
  Thanks,
  Dave.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Ian Darwin

Simon P. Ditner wrote:

Mmm, linux phone. I realize that this isn't likely to have large market
appeal (in the near future at least), but it's so cool!

Is anyone thinking of getting one?


I've got one on order. They are just ramping up to sell online. FIC, the 
company behind the hardware, normally sells phone by the tens of 
thousands to channels (carriers), so this online individual sales is 
new to them; they're sending a crateload of phones from Taiwan to 
California and shipping the orders out from there.


I hope to be able to show it by the next meeting :-)


Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Ian Darwin

Richard (Rogers @ work) wrote:

Is it a gsm phone?  Or can one it with Telus?


All the first gen OpenMoko Neo1973 phones are GSM.

All OpenMoko.com phones that you buy direct are unlocked, of course, and 
will work with any carrier (Hmmm, in canada that gives you the choice of

Rogers, or, well, Rogers).

OpenMoko is a linux distro for phones, and OpenMoko.com (the FIC 
subsidiary that's making the initial hardware) will have other phones in 
the future. The parent FIC already offers some CDMA phones, so you can 
imagine that they will have something in the future that will interest you.


Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Blaine Aldridge

OpenMoko is a linux distro for phones, and OpenMoko.com (the FIC
subsidiary that's making the initial hardware) will have other phones in
the future. The parent FIC already offers some CDMA phones, so you can
imagine that they will have something in the future that will interest you.


Even if they do come out with a CDMA model good luck finding a carrier
here in Canada. Telus and Bell do not allow any phones but their own.


From HowardForums:


Bell Mobility does not allow *ANY* cell phone NOT SOLD BY BELL
MOBILITY on their network. *PERIOD*

Telus Mobility will NOT allow for the addition of any foreign
(non-Telus) ESN regardless if the phone is unlocked or not! In short,
you CANNOT use non-Telus phones on Telus Mobility's network. Please do
NOT ask how it can be done.

Good thing we have real competition here in Canada (sarcasm). Once
again you have the choice of Rogers, or, well, Rogers.

Blaine Aldridge


iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Blaine Aldridge

Hey,

So I figure I can't be the only one in TAUG that is going to line up
for the iPhone. They have yet to announce a Canadian date (from the
news I read) but if its any time soon ill be the first in line.

So who else is planning on buying an iPhone the day of release? We
should form some sort of iPhone TAUG line.

Blaine Aldridge


RE: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Philip Mullis
We have a couple iphones already :), still working on how to get them on the 
rogers network though :P



-Original Message-
From: Blaine Aldridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 7/10/2007 1:39 PM
To: asterisk@uc.org
Subject: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine
 
Hey,

So I figure I can't be the only one in TAUG that is going to line up
for the iPhone. They have yet to announce a Canadian date (from the
news I read) but if its any time soon ill be the first in line.

So who else is planning on buying an iPhone the day of release? We
should form some sort of iPhone TAUG line.

Blaine Aldridge

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Re: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Blaine Aldridge

I thought about buying one in the US but I'm too scared to brick one
while trying to unlock it.

Blaine Aldridge


Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 1:28 pm, Blaine Aldridge wrote:
 Even if they do come out with a CDMA model good luck finding a carrier
 here in Canada. Telus and Bell do not allow any phones but their own.

That is why you have an old Telus or Bell phone and you throw the ESN and 
A-key into the new phone.  Now you don't have a non-telus/non-bell phone.

-A.


RE: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Elliott Jeyaseelan
Let the hacking being http://nanocrew.net/ 



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:43 PM
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine
 
 
 I thought about buying one in the US but I'm too scared to 
 brick one while trying to unlock it.
 
 Blaine Aldridge
 
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RE: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Remzi Semsettin Turer
I'd recommend checking the main source of it : 
http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=123

Also, I can tell you I was able to activate one iPhone, while being in Canada 
through ATT. Only issue I have is the data rates (I have a North American 
voice plan), but I have a solution coming up for that :)

-Original Message-
From: Elliott Jeyaseelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:16 PM
To: 'Blaine Aldridge'; asterisk@uc.org
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

Let the hacking being http://nanocrew.net/



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 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:43 PM
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 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine


 I thought about buying one in the US but I'm too scared to
 brick one while trying to unlock it.

 Blaine Aldridge

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RE: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!

2007-07-10 Thread Claudius Fortis
Hey Andrew...
 
Any resource out there on hoe to do just that?That is why you have an old Telus 
or Bell phone and you throw the ESN and  A-key into the new phone. Now you 
don't have a non-telus/non-bell phone.



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 -0400 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] openmoko linux phone finally available!  
 On Tuesday 10 July 2007 1:28 pm, Blaine Aldridge wrote:  Even if they do 
 come out with a CDMA model good luck finding a carrier  here in Canada. 
 Telus and Bell do not allow any phones but their own.  That is why you have 
 an old Telus or Bell phone and you throw the ESN and  A-key into the new 
 phone. Now you don't have a non-telus/non-bell phone.  -A.  
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Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin, Legends

Hi, Bill

Rogers Name Display support the incoming Name display not only for Rogers
phone, but also Bell PSTN phone, as long as both side using SS7-ISUP which
is very common (99%) to carry GN parameter (the caller's name in the
database).  Rogers exchange their name database with Bell. Nabeel is right,
there is a limitation for choice of handsets which can not be solved from
network side.

You shall knock the head of Rogers CSR to get $2 back.  I am very happy for
my $2 I paid because I can see the Caller's name no matter it is a
residential line or a business name from Bell/Telus PSTN line!

Unlimtel doesn't support Caller Name at this moment, while voicenetwork
supports.

Best.
//Kevin



On 7/10/07, Bill Sandiford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I pay for it.

I get caller name from other Rogers Wireless Customers
I get caller name from other Rogers Home Phone or Business Customers
I get caller name from a call originated by a Rogers PRI

I don't get caller name for anything else.

- Original Message -
From: Nabeel Jafferali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing


 Name Display is an additional service on Rogers which you have to
 subscribe
 to, and your handset needs to support it as well.

 Doesn't work for me (my handset does not support it nor do I pay for the
 additional service), but when calling from our PRI to a friend's Rogers
 Blackberry Curve, they do see the name sent from our PRI, even when I
 change
 it from call to call.

 Nabeel

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Sandiford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: July 9, 2007 11:20 PM
 To: Kevin, Legends; David Steele
 Cc: asterisk@uc.org
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

 With my experience they are only delivering it on outbound calls...not
 inbound, unless its from another Rogers cell phone.

 Case in point I just called my Rogers cell phone from my residence and
 I only get CallerID Number, no name.


 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin, Legends mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: David Steele mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: asterisk@uc.org
 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers My5 and free incoming/outgoing

 As Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only
 numbers), ...
 -- Yes, it support.  Rogers Wireless is the only mobile provider
 in North American supporting caller ID name.  It happened that I was
 involved to deliver this service to Rogers. :)



 On 7/9/07, David Steele  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I've just changed my cell phone plan with Rogers to take
 advantage of their new My5 plan - free incoming and outgoing to 5
 Canadian DIDs (plus long distance fees, where applicable).

 I've got my Asterisk box set up with a DISA service
 (authenticated!), so all of my outbound can now be free of charge - if
 I can be bothered to key in the phone number each time.  As an aside -
 anyone have any neat DISA dial-plan logic that makes initiating a new
 call to frequently called numbers easier? Or should I simply pre-pend
 my numbers in my cell phone with the DISA number, password, etc?

 Inbound is the kicker, though, and the real reason for this
 post.  Can someone let me know if there is any way around the following
 problem:  to qualify as a free call, all calls to my cell that I
 initiate or forward from my PBX will need a My5 caller ID number.  As
 Rogers doesn't seem to support caller ID names (only numbers), this
 means I won't be able to tell who is calling, or whose calls I have
 missed.  Can anyone see a way around this?

 Thanks,
 Dave.






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RE: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine

2007-07-10 Thread Claudius Fortis
But what's the purpose of unbricking your iPhone if you can't use on your 
favorites  cell phone network
The site says  The iPhone does not have phone capability, but the iPod and 
WiFi work.



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 2007 1:43 PM  To: asterisk@uc.org  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] iPhoneLine 
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