RE: [on-asterisk] Wireless Internet Data Plans - way too syncronized?
Hey Guys, That kind of thing has a name. It is called collusion, and is illegal under many jurisdictions including commercial regulatory and criminal law. What you describe clearly sounds competition-limiting. -Original Message- From: Elliott Jeyaseelan [mailto:g...@iaw.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:36 PM To: Chuck Mariotti; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Wireless Internet Data Plans - way too syncronized? Chuck, Would satellite internet options not be suitable in such a case? In all honestly, I am convinced all the operators except for maybe the new guy (Wind Mobile) gets together in some secret location and discusses the rate plans to screw the subscriber. The Canadian wireless industry is out there to make hefty profits. With so few competition, its best to keep everything the same or similar, that way they all could make lofty profits, why rock the boat !! -Original Message- From: Chuck Mariotti [mailto:cmario...@xunity.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:26 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Wireless Internet Data Plans - way too syncronized? I have a client that is using the Rogers Stick for daily internet access. She uses it a lot and is well above the 5GB package (20GB actually). When she bought the stick, and every single time I looked at it, Rogers always said that there was a $100 cap on the maximum you would be charged. Meaning, if you went above your $30 plan, it would bump you to $35, then $40, then $45... etc... but to a maximum of $100. Last month and the month before, she received a bill for ~$600 (each month) for data usage. Apparently, they sent her inserts with her bill indicating that the $100 cap would be discontinued (I never look at anything other than the bill either). After much fighting, she has a credit back, but the problem is now, she can't use her stick the way she wants to. Can Rogers really (they already did), just bait and switch like that? Go from a dollar cap to an insane dollar amount? I can maybe understand increasing the cap (say to $125 or $150), or placing in more tiers for bandwidth hogs but to just remove it, seems a rather horrible move to get more user to use the service. Looking at other providers now, also shows that they too, have capped data... From what I can see, they are ALL priced the exact same... in other words, it's like they all had a meeting and synced up their plans to screw all their high usage users and give them no other options but to stay where they are. They even offer a 3G hub now to use at home, but with the same stupid caps. This also smells fishy if they really do intend on implementing LTE services, the caps seem very small for the money. Something is up, some sort of positioning... I read that Virgin (Bell's discount carrier) is going to be introducing data services, I imagine at the same rate as well. Does anyone have any experience or advice on this? I was thinking if she bought out some people with iPhone 6GB $35 plans, she could get 3 or 4 of them, and just swap in a new SIM each week... would still be cheaper than what she would have to pay to Rogers (assuming no other options on the plan, like minutes, etc...) Even this is not a long term plan since those plans would expire shortly I imagine. Unfortunately, she has no other internet options where she lives. ChuckM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
[on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Dean, I am using ASUS WL-520GU with DD-WRT firmware with good success... I have an Internet Café with 5 of these relaying connectivity... $50 at Canada computers... http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProductcmd=pdpid=014864cid=NTW.489 Chuck -Original Message- From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca] Sent: January-20-10 3:43 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
I used Tomato too. Best thing since sliced bread! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Mariotti cmario...@xunity.comwrote: My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Henry Coleman
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Yes Traffic Shaping working perfectly in Tomato. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.cawrote: I used Tomato too. Best thing since sliced bread! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Mariotti cmario...@xunity.com wrote: My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Henry Coleman
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
I use a modded version (roadkill) of Tomato which has openvpn on a bunch of Linksys WRT54GLs. Works like a charm, looks like I need to upgrade since there have been some newer releases, might give the SgtPepper a try since it supports both client and server plus tunnels. Check here for the features and addons in the modded versions. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware Mike Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Mike Ashton CTO Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-724-3500 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Good suggestion regarding the Cisco router. On the contrary though, I've had more lock ups with DD-WRT than Tomato (using WRT54GS v2-4)... altogether still not often enough to complain considering this is consumer equipment rather than enterprise grade Cisco stuff. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Bill, I do not know what kind of lockups you r referring. But I have some Linksys WRT54GL + Tomato not rebooted for more than one year now.Never have any problem. Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite- RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116
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I saw some routers lockup (totally died with no response to PING or Telnet unless a reboot) in the lab environment when the traffic generator sent traffic at wired speed (100M) to the router for 10 minutes with small packet (64byte). it is because they have limited resource to process the packets On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, I do not know what kind of lockups you r referring. But I have some Linksys WRT54GL + Tomato not rebooted for more than one year now.Never have any problem. Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Thank you Patrick Song Thinking globally, Networking locally CCVP, CCNP, M.Eng in Telecommunications Cell:1-647-868-2950
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite- RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org Tell the whole story with photos, right from your Messenger window. Learn how!http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706112
