[on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
Ok... I'm VERY disappointed in Canada as a country that claims to have one of the highest rate of internet users on the globe per population. The average cost of Cable/DSL for somewhat of the so called High Speed (10mbps down and 1mpbs up) is in the range of ~$60 CDN per month. Just got news from two friends: 1. Friend in Kyoto is having a full blast of amazing 1gbps ** synchronous** internet for less than $150 CDN. 2. Friend in developing nation Moldova former USSR, is paying $15 USD for his 20 Mpbs down and 10 Mbps up. Basic testing with Video via H264 in Asterisk is demonstrating flawless crisp video calls. With speeds such as above in Kyoto and Moldova every household could be an ITSP. To be quite frank, I wouldn't mind paying $250 / month for the capability of 20 Mbps upstream. Can anyone shed some light as to whether we in Canada (in Toronto to be more specific) could reach this speed at this moment at the technical level with the current cable dsl infrastructure? Or is it just the greed and self imposed limitation set by the incumbent internet carriers that are unnecessarily preventing us from greater potential speed? Would appreciate some insight. Best regards, Reza. -- Toronto based VoIP / Asterisk Trainer, I.T. Consultant and Hosted PBX Solutions Provider. +1-647-476-2067. http://www.linkedin.com/in/seminar
Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
Reza - Asterisk Consultant wrote: ** synchronous** I believe you mean symetrical, that is the same bandwidth in both directions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
Reza - Asterisk Consultant wrote: Or is it just the greed and self imposed limitation set by the incumbent internet carriers that are unnecessarily preventing us from greater potential speed? There are physical limitations with the methods used to deliver the service to us. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
[on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
-- Forwarded message -- From: Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca Date: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet. To: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com It is common knowledge that the industrial countries suffer from outdated infrastructure whereas developing countries can leapfrog these outdated networks to provided better and higher speed networks. Nnetworks in this country are running out of bandwidth both Cable and DSL operators sell the remaining bandwidth at a premium (supply and demand based to maximize profit). From a business point of view, in Canada we have a duopoly (more or less). This does nothing to help competition, bundling services like phone, TV and Internet should be illegal (as it is in the UK). In the end it is the consumer that looses by paying too much for marginal performance and a take it or leave it attitude. Unfortunately the CRTC are not helping matters, their board consists of ex Bell and Cable people who are very conservative; to the point of choking off any competition before is viable. My 2 cents Henry On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Reza - Asterisk Consultant wrote: Or is it just the greed and self imposed limitation set by the incumbent internet carriers that are unnecessarily preventing us from greater potential speed? There are physical limitations with the methods used to deliver the service to us. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- *Henry L. Coleman * ***Per: VoIP-PBX.ca * * * -- *Henry L. Coleman * ***Per: VoIP-PBX.ca * * *
Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
Reza, I found a few providers that offers what you are looking for (not at 1Gbps), but you may not be in their serving area: Videotron (province of Quebec only) 120Mbps download, 20Mbps upload: http://www.videotron.com/service/internet-services/internet-access/ultimate-120 Bell FIBE 25: 25Mbps download and 7Mbps upload. http://www.bell.ca/shopping/jsp/pageblock_styles/includes/quickview.jsp?quickView=truewlcs_catalog_item_sku=DSLTIMONNewMassNCOMX25lang=enregion=ON But both providers offer cap on internet transit. I feel the caps are too low using such high speed connections. I don't see anything from Rogers that offers similar upload speeds. It may not help you, but it shows that we (as Canadians) will have something similar available in the near future. Stephan Monette Unlimitel Inc. Tel.: 1-877-464-6638 Fax: (613) 482-1077 On 2010-12-20, at 5:35 AM, Reza - Asterisk Consultant wrote: Ok... I'm VERY disappointed in Canada as a country that claims to have one of the highest rate of internet users on the globe per population. The average cost of Cable/DSL for somewhat of the so called High Speed (10mbps down and 1mpbs up) is in the range of ~$60 CDN per month. Just got news from two friends: 1. Friend in Kyoto is having a full blast of amazing 1gbps ** synchronous** internet for less than $150 CDN. 2. Friend in developing nation Moldova former USSR, is paying $15 USD for his 20 Mpbs down and 10 Mbps up. Basic testing with Video via H264 in Asterisk is demonstrating flawless crisp video calls. With speeds such as above in Kyoto and Moldova every household could be an ITSP. To be quite frank, I wouldn't mind paying $250 / month for the capability of 20 Mbps upstream. Can anyone shed some light as to whether we in Canada (in Toronto to be more specific) could reach this speed at this moment at the technical level with the current cable dsl infrastructure? Or is it just the greed and self imposed limitation set by the incumbent internet carriers that are unnecessarily preventing us from greater potential speed? Would appreciate some insight. Best regards, Reza. -- Toronto based VoIP / Asterisk Trainer, I.T. Consultant and Hosted PBX Solutions Provider. +1-647-476-2067. http://www.linkedin.com/in/seminar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
I think Reza was referring to the fact that the price per megabit of internet access in Canada is among the worst in the developed world. The reasons for this are mostly what James described earlier. The Berkman Center at Harvard has done extensive research on this. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/ Bill -Original Message- From: Stephan Monette [mailto:monet...@unlimitel.ca] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:45 AM To: Reza - Asterisk Consultant Cc: Asterisk Users Group Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet. Reza, I found a few providers that offers what you are looking for (not at 1Gbps), but you may not be in their serving area: Videotron (province of Quebec only) 120Mbps download, 20Mbps upload: http://www.videotron.com/service/internet-services/internet- access/ultimate-120 Bell FIBE 25: 25Mbps download and 7Mbps upload. http://www.bell.ca/shopping/jsp/pageblock_styles/includes/quickview.jsp ?quickView=truewlcs_catalog_item_sku=DSLTIMONNewMassNCOMX25lang=enre gion=ON But both providers offer cap on internet transit. I feel the caps are too low using such high speed connections. I don't see anything from Rogers that offers similar upload speeds. It may not help you, but it shows that we (as Canadians) will have something similar available in the near future. Stephan Monette Unlimitel Inc. Tel.: 1-877-464-6638 Fax: (613) 482-1077 On 2010-12-20, at 5:35 AM, Reza - Asterisk Consultant wrote: Ok... I'm VERY disappointed in Canada as a country that claims to have one of the highest rate of internet users on the globe per population. The average cost of Cable/DSL for somewhat of the so called High Speed (10mbps down and 1mpbs up) is in the range of ~$60 CDN per month. Just got news from two friends: 1. Friend in Kyoto is having a full blast of amazing 1gbps ** synchronous** internet for less than $150 CDN. 2. Friend in developing nation Moldova former USSR, is paying $15 USD for his 20 Mpbs down and 10 Mbps up. Basic testing with Video via H264 in Asterisk is demonstrating flawless crisp video calls. With speeds such as above in Kyoto and Moldova every household could be an ITSP. To be quite frank, I wouldn't mind paying $250 / month for the capability of 20 Mbps upstream. Can anyone shed some light as to whether we in Canada (in Toronto to be more specific) could reach this speed at this moment at the technical level with the current cable dsl infrastructure? Or is it just the greed and self imposed limitation set by the incumbent internet carriers that are unnecessarily preventing us from greater potential speed? Would appreciate some insight. Best regards, Reza. -- Toronto based VoIP / Asterisk Trainer, I.T. Consultant and Hosted PBX Solutions Provider. +1-647-476-2067. http://www.linkedin.com/in/seminar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk 1 Gigabit Internet.
The root problem is lack of competition. We have no competition because under our foreign ownership regime, Canada does not allow any. Unfortunately the CRTC are not helping matters, their board consists of ex Bell and Cable people who are very conservative; to the point of choking off any competition before is viable. I'm not a big fan of the CRTC for a lot of reasons but on this particular issue I always feel I have to defend them. The fact is, the CRTC was taking steps to increase competition and one of the first things the Conservatives did when they came to power in 2007 was order them to stop. Here is a nice little article in an archive that explains just how ticked off the bureaucrats at the CRTC were at the Conservatives (conform or quit): http://www.pugetsoundradio.com/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?v-print/m-1170784107/ And an original story from the CBC that explains what the government did and how happy the incumbents were: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2006/06/13/crtc.html The Conservatives have also not lifted the foreign ownership restrictions in Telecom despite several bi-partisan reports that recommended they do so. As recently as this November, Tony Clement announced they would not be allowing competition (foreign owned companies) in Canadian Telecom any time soon. So on this one, it's squarely in the hands of the politicians, not the CRTC. Not to promote my own blog on this list but I've written extensively on competition, deregulation and the CRTC including a whole post on the favorite Canadian sport of bashing the CRTC for everything: http://www.johnlange.ca/2008/07/16/apparently-the-crtc-is-to-blame-for-everything/ -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
[on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
Yes, we got this from our legal counsel too. The reality is that $1.3 million may be a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue that they brought in from the activities for which they have been fined. Hard to say. Bill -Original Message- From: John Lange [mailto:j...@johnlange.ca] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:32 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
The ultimate irony is that Bell is the operator of the Canadian NDNCL. http://www.bell.ca/enterprise/EntNews_Press_200802.page as per the press release: Bell will design, develop, implement and operate the National DNCL to: * Accept consumer registrations of telephone numbers on the DNCL * Make the DNCL available to telemarketers and collect related fees, and * Register consumer complaints about telemarketing Best Regards, Ivan Kovacevic Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | i...@startelecom.ca T: +14164790325 x205 | C: +14168350532 | F: +14166195403 -Original Message- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:i...@darwinsys.com] Sent: December-20-10 8:50 PM To: John Lange Cc: asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
