Re: [on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter)
I've had good experience with LES.net based in Winnipeg, AFAIK they can port TF numbers (for a fee, of course) On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Jim Van Meggelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to everyone for the helpful feedback. Jim Jim Van Meggelen wrote: Folks, I'd be grateful if we could have a discussion about number portability. I have a couple of specific things I'd like to know, but I'd also like to have an idea of what knowledge we have in our group, and get it into a discussion so that it will be in the list archives. My questions are: 1) If I have an 800 number, do I own that? If so, can I simply move it to another carrier? Currently my 800 number comes in on my analog circuits, and Bell is quite happy to gouge me for things like CallerID (and a recently added $8/mo charge that does not seem to relate to anything). I'd much prefer to assign it to a VoIP service. No idea what my rights are with respect to this, nor what I might expect to pay. I don't want to find out one day that because I moved my number to wherever, I no longer have any rights to it (assuming I have any rights to it now). 2) I have a customer who has locations all over the 905 area code North of Toronto. They would like to have all their numbers come in on their PRI in Aurora, and then distrubute to each site via VoIP. I believe that local numbers cannot move out of whatever exchange they are assigned to, but I have seen some pretty creative things done, and there is such a thing as a foreign exchange circuit, so I am curious what is actually possible. Any other comments regarding number portability in Canada (whether related to my questions or not) or valuable resources would be most welcome. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter)
Folks, I'd be grateful if we could have a discussion about number portability. I have a couple of specific things I'd like to know, but I'd also like to have an idea of what knowledge we have in our group, and get it into a discussion so that it will be in the list archives. My questions are: 1) If I have an 800 number, do I own that? If so, can I simply move it to another carrier? Currently my 800 number comes in on my analog circuits, and Bell is quite happy to gouge me for things like CallerID (and a recently added $8/mo charge that does not seem to relate to anything). I'd much prefer to assign it to a VoIP service. No idea what my rights are with respect to this, nor what I might expect to pay. I don't want to find out one day that because I moved my number to wherever, I no longer have any rights to it (assuming I have any rights to it now). 2) I have a customer who has locations all over the 905 area code North of Toronto. They would like to have all their numbers come in on their PRI in Aurora, and then distrubute to each site via VoIP. I believe that local numbers cannot move out of whatever exchange they are assigned to, but I have seen some pretty creative things done, and there is such a thing as a foreign exchange circuit, so I am curious what is actually possible. Any other comments regarding number portability in Canada (whether related to my questions or not) or valuable resources would be most welcome. Jim -- Jim Van Meggelen Core Telecom Innovations [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.coretel.ca 416-425-6111 x6001 877-CORETEL x6001 (Canada) www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter)
Comments inline below - Original Message - From: Jim Van Meggelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk@uc.org Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: [on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter) Folks, I'd be grateful if we could have a discussion about number portability. I can probably answer most any question about LNP. We are part of the CLNPC (Canadian Local Number Portability Consortium) I have a couple of specific things I'd like to know, but I'd also like to have an idea of what knowledge we have in our group, and get it into a discussion so that it will be in the list archives. My questions are: 1) If I have an 800 number, do I own that? If so, can I simply move it to another carrier? Currently my 800 number comes in on my analog circuits, and Bell is quite happy to gouge me for things like CallerID (and a recently added $8/mo charge that does not seem to relate to anything). I'd much prefer to assign it to a VoIP service. No idea what my rights are with respect to this, nor what I might expect to pay. I don't want to find out one day that because I moved my number to wherever, I no longer have any rights to it (assuming I have any rights to it now). You do have rights to it. You can move it to any toll free carrier you wish by simply filling out a form called a RESPORG. The new TF Carrier should be able to provide you with one. As far as the pricing goes, its pretty common knowledge that Bell charges $8 per month just for the privilege of having a TF number and then charge you for every incoming call. Some TF carriers don't charge a monthly fee at all and just charge for the minutes (like us for exampleshamless plug..sorry) 2) I have a customer who has locations all over the 905 area code North of Toronto. They would like to have all their numbers come in on their PRI in Aurora, and then distrubute to each site via VoIP. I believe that local numbers cannot move out of whatever exchange they are assigned to, but I have seen some pretty creative things done, and there is such a thing as a foreign exchange circuit, so I am curious what is actually possible. Creativity is the key. Lots can be done. They can ask for a wide area PRI. The trick is going to be finding a provider that has LNP coverage in all of the areas that they have local numbers on. Most providers can only provide LNP in the main area (like Newmarket for example) but can't provide LNP for the outlying areas. The following URL will give you a list of the rate centres in which we can do LNP either now or in the very near future (June 1) http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=nxx=x=ocn=190eregion=lata=switch=pastdays=0nextdays=0 There are a few that we can do that aren't on this list as well. We will be putting a more complete list on our website soon. Any other comments regarding number portability in Canada (whether related to my questions or not) or valuable resources would be most welcome. Jim -- Jim Van Meggelen Core Telecom Innovations [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.coretel.ca 416-425-6111 x6001 877-CORETEL x6001 (Canada) www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter)
Here, here! I have many questions about number portability aswell. Basically, if someone has a landline can they easily keep there number and turn it into a DID that will ring a server via SIP? On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Jim Van Meggelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I'd be grateful if we could have a discussion about number portability. I have a couple of specific things I'd like to know, but I'd also like to have an idea of what knowledge we have in our group, and get it into a discussion so that it will be in the list archives. My questions are: 1) If I have an 800 number, do I own that? If so, can I simply move it to another carrier? Currently my 800 number comes in on my analog circuits, and Bell is quite happy to gouge me for things like CallerID (and a recently added $8/mo charge that does not seem to relate to anything). I'd much prefer to assign it to a VoIP service. No idea what my rights are with respect to this, nor what I might expect to pay. I don't want to find out one day that because I moved my number to wherever, I no longer have any rights to it (assuming I have any rights to it now). 2) I have a customer who has locations all over the 905 area code North of Toronto. They would like to have all their numbers come in on their PRI in Aurora, and then distrubute to each site via VoIP. I believe that local numbers cannot move out of whatever exchange they are assigned to, but I have seen some pretty creative things done, and there is such a thing as a foreign exchange circuit, so I am curious what is actually possible. Any other comments regarding number portability in Canada (whether related to my questions or not) or valuable resources would be most welcome. Jim -- Jim Van Meggelen Core Telecom Innovations [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.coretel.ca 416-425-6111 x6001 877-CORETEL x6001 (Canada) www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [on-asterisk] Hoping for some discussion on Local Number Portability (and toll free too, for that matter)
Thanks to everyone for the helpful feedback. Jim Jim Van Meggelen wrote: Folks, I'd be grateful if we could have a discussion about number portability. I have a couple of specific things I'd like to know, but I'd also like to have an idea of what knowledge we have in our group, and get it into a discussion so that it will be in the list archives. My questions are: 1) If I have an 800 number, do I own that? If so, can I simply move it to another carrier? Currently my 800 number comes in on my analog circuits, and Bell is quite happy to gouge me for things like CallerID (and a recently added $8/mo charge that does not seem to relate to anything). I'd much prefer to assign it to a VoIP service. No idea what my rights are with respect to this, nor what I might expect to pay. I don't want to find out one day that because I moved my number to wherever, I no longer have any rights to it (assuming I have any rights to it now). 2) I have a customer who has locations all over the 905 area code North of Toronto. They would like to have all their numbers come in on their PRI in Aurora, and then distrubute to each site via VoIP. I believe that local numbers cannot move out of whatever exchange they are assigned to, but I have seen some pretty creative things done, and there is such a thing as a foreign exchange circuit, so I am curious what is actually possible. Any other comments regarding number portability in Canada (whether related to my questions or not) or valuable resources would be most welcome. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
