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AFAIK the 83x series has the same limitation on the switch ports, it's literally a 5-port 10/100Mb switch internally connected to a 10Mb port on the router. It would do the same job as the 1700+WICs, cheaper and tidier. The 837 MAY do the job if this is just for voice. You would have Rogers, the satellite and the phones on the 4-port switch sharing 10Mb, Bell on the DSL on a separate i/f. Adding general data/web surfing to the mix might bottleneck on the router/switch interface (QoS?). The 871 or 877 should be full 10/100 (the switch on the 857 is unmanaged, no VLANs) but it's the current model so not so cheap on ebay. :-( http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps380/ps6200/prod_qas0900aecd8028a982_ps380_Products_Q_and_A_Item.html regards, Drew Bruce N wrote: Can CISCO 837 with 4 Ethernet port be used as an alternative? Would I be able to aggregate providers with the 4 LAN ports on it? 837 also has a DSL port. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps380/ps4874/product_data_sheet09186a008010e5c5.html Thanks,Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: aggib...@cogeco.ca; b...@telnetcommunications.com CC: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:28:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Drew, Thanks a lot for weighing in on this. I appreciate it. I was almost buying WIC-4ESW. This could also affect the aggregated speed if I use a WIC-1ADSL because that is yet on another VLAN. However, the route is to support 40 Aastra phone only (with SIP trunking to outside) and maybe 10mbps is going to work (no computer on the network) but I would like a more solid solution in case of expansion. Is there any other of the Cisco router which would do 100mbps at a reasonable price that you can recommend? Please remember the multi-wan requirement. If worse comes to worse and no options I may drop the RJ-11 requirement and not use Bell at all. Thanks, Bruce Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:05:23 -0500 From: aggib...@cogeco.ca To: b...@telnetcommunications.com CC: het...@hotmail.com; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I've used the WIC-4ESW in the past. You can assign each of the ports to a different VLAN to create up to 4 more routed ethernet interfaces. However, despite each switchport being 100Mb, the interface between the WIC-4ESW and the router is only 10Mb. Traffic between switchports on the same VLAN will be 100Mb but traffic between VLANS will be seriously limited as it has to pass through the 10Mb pipe to the router twice. In Bruce's scenario, traffic would not pass between switchports but aggregate Internet bandwidth would be limited to around 6Mb (10Mb in theory only). regards, Drew Bill Sandiford wrote: To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite - RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
I've used the WIC-4ESW in the past. You can assign each of the ports to a different VLAN to create up to 4 more routed ethernet interfaces. However, despite each switchport being 100Mb, the interface between the WIC-4ESW and the router is only 10Mb. Traffic between switchports on the same VLAN will be 100Mb but traffic between VLANS will be seriously limited as it has to pass through the 10Mb pipe to the router twice. In Bruce's scenario, traffic would not pass between switchports but aggregate Internet bandwidth would be limited to around 6Mb (10Mb in theory only). regards, Drew Bill Sandiford wrote: To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite- RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Drew, Thanks a lot for weighing in on this. I appreciate it. I was almost buying WIC-4ESW. This could also affect the aggregated speed if I use a WIC-1ADSL because that is yet on another VLAN. However, the route is to support 40 Aastra phone only (with SIP trunking to outside) and maybe 10mbps is going to work (no computer on the network) but I would like a more solid solution in case of expansion. Is there any other of the Cisco router which would do 100mbps at a reasonable price that you can recommend? Please remember the multi-wan requirement. If worse comes to worse and no options I may drop the RJ-11 requirement and not use Bell at all. Thanks, Bruce Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:05:23 -0500 From: aggib...@cogeco.ca To: b...@telnetcommunications.com CC: het...@hotmail.com; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I've used the WIC-4ESW in the past. You can assign each of the ports to a different VLAN to create up to 4 more routed ethernet interfaces. However, despite each switchport being 100Mb, the interface between the WIC-4ESW and the router is only 10Mb. Traffic between switchports on the same VLAN will be 100Mb but traffic between VLANS will be seriously limited as it has to pass through the 10Mb pipe to the router twice. In Bruce's scenario, traffic would not pass between switchports but aggregate Internet bandwidth would be limited to around 6Mb (10Mb in theory only). regards, Drew Bill Sandiford wrote: To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite - RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Can CISCO 837 with 4 Ethernet port be used as an alternative? Would I be able to aggregate providers with the 4 LAN ports on it? 837 also has a DSL port. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps380/ps4874/product_data_sheet09186a008010e5c5.html Thanks,Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: aggib...@cogeco.ca; b...@telnetcommunications.com CC: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:28:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Drew, Thanks a lot for weighing in on this. I appreciate it. I was almost buying WIC-4ESW. This could also affect the aggregated speed if I use a WIC-1ADSL because that is yet on another VLAN. However, the route is to support 40 Aastra phone only (with SIP trunking to outside) and maybe 10mbps is going to work (no computer on the network) but I would like a more solid solution in case of expansion. Is there any other of the Cisco router which would do 100mbps at a reasonable price that you can recommend? Please remember the multi-wan requirement. If worse comes to worse and no options I may drop the RJ-11 requirement and not use Bell at all. Thanks, Bruce Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:05:23 -0500 From: aggib...@cogeco.ca To: b...@telnetcommunications.com CC: het...@hotmail.com; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I've used the WIC-4ESW in the past. You can assign each of the ports to a different VLAN to create up to 4 more routed ethernet interfaces. However, despite each switchport being 100Mb, the interface between the WIC-4ESW and the router is only 10Mb. Traffic between switchports on the same VLAN will be 100Mb but traffic between VLANS will be seriously limited as it has to pass through the 10Mb pipe to the router twice. In Bruce's scenario, traffic would not pass between switchports but aggregate Internet bandwidth would be limited to around 6Mb (10Mb in theory only). regards, Drew Bill Sandiford wrote: To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite - RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
Dean, I am using ASUS WL-520GU with DD-WRT firmware with good success... I have an Internet Café with 5 of these relaying connectivity... $50 at Canada computers... http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProductcmd=pdpid=014864cid=NTW.489 Chuck -Original Message- From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca] Sent: January-20-10 3:43 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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I used Tomato too. Best thing since sliced bread! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Mariotti cmario...@xunity.comwrote: My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Henry Coleman
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Yes Traffic Shaping working perfectly in Tomato. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.cawrote: I used Tomato too. Best thing since sliced bread! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Mariotti cmario...@xunity.com wrote: My understanding is interface is a little prettier in DD-WRT and that Tomato still has better Traffic Shaping (some say Tomato works, DD-WRT doesn't)... not sure if that has changed lately though. I know many people switched from DD-WRT to Tomato at one point. Chuck -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: January-20-10 4:11 PM To: Jason Rose Cc: Andre Courchesne; Dean Yorke; asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I am using Linksys+Tomato all the time. Is there any advantage in DD-WRT compare to Tomato. Thanks Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jason Rose jjk...@rogers.com wrote: If you are looking for a quick and cheap solution, I recommend a linksys unit with DD-WRT installed. The dd firmware addresses ALOT of issues and turns ordinary household routers into firewalls that compare to smaller sonicwall / snapgear solutions. Jason From: Andre Courchesne courc...@net-forces.com To: Dean Yorke dean..yo...@xyc.ca Cc: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 3:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations For router/firewall I use a linux distribution called ClarkConnect. Just install a small PC with 2 NIC and ClarkConnect and you have a full firewall solution, with bandwidth monitoring/control, all the firewall options you need, QoS, web proxy/ parental control, access blocking,... For Access point I like the US Robotics. --- Andre Courchesne - Consultant http://www.net-forces.com MSN: courc...@net-forces.com Skype: VoipForces L'information contenue dans le présent document est la propriété de Andre Courchesne. Et est divulguée en toute confidentialité. Cette information ne doit pas être utilisée, divulguée à d'autres personnes ou reproduite sans le consentement écrit explicite de Andre Courchesne. The information contained in this document is confidential and property of Andre Courchesne. It shall not be used, disclosed to others or reproduced without the express written consent of Andre Courchesne. On 2010-01-20, at 3:43 PM, Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Henry Coleman
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Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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I use a modded version (roadkill) of Tomato which has openvpn on a bunch of Linksys WRT54GLs. Works like a charm, looks like I need to upgrade since there have been some newer releases, might give the SgtPepper a try since it supports both client and server plus tunnels. Check here for the features and addons in the modded versions. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware Mike Dean Yorke wrote: Hi All, I am looking for some feedback on good routers to use. I have used the base linksys units and find that they just don't seem reliable when there is disruptions in service. These are not necessarily for VOIP, but I do need VPN capabilities. Also, need a quality access point that can be well configured. I don't want to buy high end, just reasonable. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Mike Ashton CTO Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-724-3500 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Good suggestion regarding the Cisco router. On the contrary though, I've had more lock ups with DD-WRT than Tomato (using WRT54GS v2-4)... altogether still not often enough to complain considering this is consumer equipment rather than enterprise grade Cisco stuff. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Bill, I do not know what kind of lockups you r referring. But I have some Linksys WRT54GL + Tomato not rebooted for more than one year now.Never have any problem. Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite- RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations
I saw some routers lockup (totally died with no response to PING or Telnet unless a reboot) in the lab environment when the traffic generator sent traffic at wired speed (100M) to the router for 10 minutes with small packet (64byte). it is because they have limited resource to process the packets On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, I do not know what kind of lockups you r referring. But I have some Linksys WRT54GL + Tomato not rebooted for more than one year now.Never have any problem. Lloyd On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- Thank you Patrick Song Thinking globally, Networking locally CCVP, CCNP, M.Eng in Telecommunications Cell:1-647-868-2950
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To my knowledge the only Ethernet WICs available for the 1721 are the WIC-1ENET which is single 10BaseT only. Do not confuse WIC-4ESW to be a 4 port Ethernet card either. It is a 4 port Ethernet switch. It does however support 802.1q vlan trunking, so it may be possible to separate the ports that way using subinterfaces and vlans. Keep in mind however that PPPoE is not supported on subinterfaces, but I believe DHCP is. (translation for cisco laymen...you won't be able to use the WIC-4ESW ports for PPPoE connections like DSL, but you may be able to use it for DHCP connections like Cable and/or satellite) I know someone who inadvertently bought a WIC-4ESW thinking it would work for them. I'll see if they still have it and if they do I'll try and do some testing with it (as time permits). Bill From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:08 AM To: Bill Sandiford; wai...@gmail.com; asterisk Mailing Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Sounds like a really solid/resonably priced option. Cisco 1721 has a one 10/100 Fast Ethernet Port. I am looking to use this as a load balancer for three ISPs if it's possible with this router. Providers are: Bell (ADSL) - RJ-11 interface = WIC-1ADSL Rogers - RJ-45 interface = ? Sattalite- RJ-45 interface = ? POE Switch - RJ-45 interface = ? So, in total 3 RJ-45 and 1 ADSL port is needed. I can live with 3 RJ-45 and no ADSL ports as well. Supporting 100mbps on all RJ-45 ports would definitely be a bonus. I know that the router has two WIC slots. WIC-1ADSL exists as Bill suggested. Is there another WIC which can support two 10/100Base RJ-45 base in the other WIC slot? Or maybe even a one port 10/100Base? The reason why I am posing this question is because I only found a one port 10Base WIC module on the list of compatible modules for this router and no 100Base WICs. Thanks, Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: wai...@gmail.com; asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations I currently have a WRT54GL in my home running the MLPPP version of Tomato, and it is pretty solid but does lock up from time to time. The lockups aren't to troublesome in my home situation, but would be annoying in a business environment. We found the same thing in the field for most of the readily available routers, whether they be Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo or otherwise. Most of the time they were pretty good, but in certain circumstances they just locked up, or wouldn't reconnect PPPoE after an outage, or other weird stuff. For that reason, we are now solely deploying Cisco 1721 routers for all of our business customer deployments (whether they use VoIP or not). You can pick them up on eBay from a variety of sources for $100. I think we bought 100 of them for $50 each. Then we put the WIC-1ADSL card into the router (they are also around $50 on eBay). In some cases we put in 2 DSL cards and bond the links with MLPPP. The great part of this solution is that for around $100 (for the single DSL, or $150 for dual) we get a router that runs Cisco IOS and all the great things that come along with that. The reliability is outright awesome...they just never need to be rebooted. The downside is no web interface, so you have to know Cisco IOS or be fairly comfortable with a command-line interface. Also, there is no wireless in this series of routers, so you will need some sort of stand-alone AP if the customer wants wireless (most of them do). Regards, Bill -Original Message- From: Wai Vii [mailto:wai...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM To: TAUG Technical Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations Another vote for Tomato, the traffic shaping works great whereas it just seemed to cause problems with DD-WRT. Used to have DD-WRT loaded on up to ten WRT54GS but found it slower than Tomato and the interface more cumbersome. Another vote for the ASUS routers mentioned. Heard that the Buffalo routers are OK too but I've never used one before. If you want to spend a bit more, consider Soekris or Routerboard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org Tell the whole story with photos, right from your Messenger window. Learn how!http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706112
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones
I've had good experiences with both m0n0wall (for fw/router scenarios) and Untangle (for fw/router/content management/etc. scenarios). -dbc -Original Message- From: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [mailto:lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com] Sent: May-27-09 7:49 AM To: asterisk@uc.org Subject: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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They are not in the internal network. Asterisk production server is in * Data center *and 25 phones in***Internal network * Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Mullis philip.mul...@syx.cawrote: why do you need a router if there on the internal network? just vlan your switch if you want to segregate. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd
Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones
The Linux server that Asterisk is running on! Cost $0-50 depending on whether a second NIC is required + time to configure. Easy Option: Add a second ethernet interface and feed it to the phone network switch. Geek Option: VLAN tag the existing interface to make two virtual interfaces and put the phones on the second VLAN. You will need a commercial-grade managed switch for this and a bit more networking knowledge. Either way you can provide all the network services (DHCP, DNS, TFTP, etc.) to support the phones from a central point that is independent of other network devices to get easier management and higher reliability. regards, Drew Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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so you have datacenter - internet - a network? if this is the scenario, using pfsense routers at each side and creating an ipsec tunnel would be a very good solution, it will give you private address reachability and also ensure you voice is encrypted through the network. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: They are not in the internal network. Asterisk production server is in * Data center *and 25 phones in***Internal network * Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Mullis philip.mul...@syx.cawrote: why do you need a router if there on the internal network? just vlan your switch if you want to segregate. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Yes. But I do not want to use VPN. A simple network router help to handle the internal 25 phones to register with the Asterisk Server. Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Philip Mullis philip.mul...@syx.cawrote: so you have datacenter - internet - a network? if this is the scenario, using pfsense routers at each side and creating an ipsec tunnel would be a very good solution, it will give you private address reachability and also ensure you voice is encrypted through the network. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: They are not in the internal network. Asterisk production server is in * Data center *and 25 phones in***Internal network * Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Mullis philip.mul...@syx.ca wrote: why do you need a router if there on the internal network? just vlan your switch if you want to segregate. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd
RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones
Ops...that should have said Pros and not Cons. Please enlighten me with Cons! -Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com; philip.mul...@syx.ca CC: asterisk@uc.org Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:06:41 -0400 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones Never had the experience but would like to know if the following would work best for Lloyd's environment: Asterisk Server --- Public Internet --- Embeded SER/OpenSER/Kamilio -- 48 port switch --- 35 Aastra Cons (if I understand OpenSer correctly): - OpenSer would be on premises where Aastra phones are located. Embeded Open Ser server can also act as firewall, DHCP router, etc... - Easy and cheap to have another OpenSer embeded box on the side for redundancy purpose. Also, can connect both routers to the POE switch at the same time and Aastra Phones will never loose a router, or a pbx??? -Bruce Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:08:43 -0400 From: lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com To: philip.mul...@syx.ca CC: asterisk@uc.org Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Router Recommendations + 25 Phones Yes. But I do not want to use VPN. A simple network router help to handle the internal 25 phones to register with the Asterisk Server. Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Philip Mullis wrote: so you have datacenter - internet - a network? if this is the scenario, using pfsense routers at each side and creating an ipsec tunnel would be a very good solution, it will give you private address reachability and also ensure you voice is encrypted through the network. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: They are not in the internal network. Asterisk production server is in * Data center *and 25 phones in***Internal network * Lloyd On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Mulliswrote: why do you need a router if there on the internal network? just vlan your switch if you want to segregate. Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Hi, I have the following scenario Asterisk production server is in Data center and 25 phones in internal network( No computers in this network. only phones.). Any one willing to share their experience for a *Good Network Router* for the internal network ( 25 phones) connect to the Asterisk server. Thank you. Lloyd _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org _ One at a time or all at once? Get updates from your friends in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660827 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
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Mike, Tomato firmware with the following service 1. DHCP Server 2. WAN Gateway 3. QOS 4. VPN How many VOIP Phones (SNOM or AASTRA) can be use in this configuration. Thank you in advance Lloyd On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mike Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Terry, I really like the Tomato firmware ( www.polarcloud.com ) it is based off of the dd-wrt but has really good QOS. Everything can been configured from the shell but the web GUI is very good. Only downside is it does not have any VPN capability by default. There is a altered version though that has openVPN also which I'm now running and works well. Mike Terry D. Cudney wrote: Hi all, I have two linksys routers, a wrt54gs and a wrt54l. Been running openwrt on them for a couple of years. The qos works but isn't great. My priorities are ease of configuration in a text mode (telnet or ssh) no gui, firewall security and qos for voip. There is no usb on these and I'm not interested in things like bittorrent. Can anyone recommend (or discredit) any of the other choices? ddwrt? tomato? other? firmware? for these platforms, with these priorities. TIA, --terry -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thank you. Lloyd Tel: 416-500-8014
Re: [on-asterisk] router recommendations
Lloyd, I'm using the WRT54GL with Tomato for my home office. Services: - dhcpd with about 16 devices on network. - one active openVPN connection to colocation network - QOS I have 5 workstations ( two with Zoiper softphones) , 8 servers running and one ploycom, one sipura 841, 2 spa-2002 with 3 modems attached for auto dialers from a couple servers and a Wii. 5 of these devices are utilizing the WPAWiFi also. I usually have 3 concurrent voip calls on the go (dialers) and have had as many as 5 voip calls running concurrently to remote Asterisk PBX. All devices are endpoints no local asterisk server running ( usually ). I used to have choppy tx audio when large ftp uploads occurred ( with a few different routers tested ), but Tomato has greatly improved this to the point where it almost never occurs. But due to cranking up the QOS for voip I have had instances where remote VNC connections become sluggish, but this expected with so much voip on my home Rogers connection. Mike Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Mike, Tomato firmware with the following service 1. DHCP Server 2. WAN Gateway 3. QOS 4. VPN How many VOIP Phones (SNOM or AASTRA) can be use in this configuration. Thank you in advance Lloyd On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mike Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Terry, I really like the Tomato firmware ( www.polarcloud.com ) it is based off of the dd-wrt but has really good QOS. Everything can been configured from the shell but the web GUI is very good. Only downside is it does not have any VPN capability by default. There is a altered version though that has openVPN also which I'm now running and works well. Mike Terry D. Cudney wrote: Hi all, I have two linksys routers, a wrt54gs and a wrt54l. Been running openwrt on them for a couple of years. The qos works but isn't great. My priorities are ease of configuration in a text mode (telnet or ssh) no gui, firewall security and qos for voip. There is no usb on these and I'm not interested in things like bittorrent. Can anyone recommend (or discredit) any of the other choices? ddwrt? tomato? other? firmware? for these platforms, with these priorities. TIA, --terry -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax:416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax:416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [on-asterisk] router recommendations
Mike, Thank you for sharing the information. It is a really good performance measure for a small business network. Mike *I used to have choppy tx audio when large ftp uploads occurred ( with a few different routers tested ), but Tomato has greatly improved this to the point where it almost never occurs. But due to cranking up the QOS for voip I have had instances where remote VNC connections become sluggish, but this expected with so much voip on my home Rogers connection.* -- I have seen exactly same problem when large FTP uploads. Thank you LLoyd On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Mike Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Lloyd, I'm using the WRT54GL with Tomato for my home office. Services: - dhcpd with about 16 devices on network. - one active openVPN connection to colocation network - QOS I have 5 workstations ( two with Zoiper softphones) , 8 servers running and one ploycom, one sipura 841, 2 spa-2002 with 3 modems attached for auto dialers from a couple servers and a Wii. 5 of these devices are utilizing the WPAWiFi also. I usually have 3 concurrent voip calls on the go (dialers) and have had as many as 5 voip calls running concurrently to remote Asterisk PBX. All devices are endpoints no local asterisk server running ( usually ). I used to have choppy tx audio when large ftp uploads occurred ( with a few different routers tested ), but Tomato has greatly improved this to the point where it almost never occurs. But due to cranking up the QOS for voip I have had instances where remote VNC connections become sluggish, but this expected with so much voip on my home Rogers connection. Mike Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Mike, Tomato firmware with the following service 1. DHCP Server 2. WAN Gateway 3. QOS 4. VPN How many VOIP Phones (SNOM or AASTRA) can be use in this configuration. Thank you in advance Lloyd On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mike Ashton[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Terry, I really like the Tomato firmware ( www.polarcloud.com ) it is based off of the dd-wrt but has really good QOS. Everything can been configured from the shell but the web GUI is very good. Only downside is it does not have any VPN capability by default. There is a altered version though that has openVPN also which I'm now running and works well. Mike Terry D. Cudney wrote: Hi all, I have two linksys routers, a wrt54gs and a wrt54l. Been running openwrt on them for a couple of years. The qos works but isn't great. My priorities are ease of configuration in a text mode (telnet or ssh) no gui, firewall security and qos for voip. There is no usb on these and I'm not interested in things like bittorrent. Can anyone recommend (or discredit) any of the other choices? ddwrt? tomato? other? firmware? for these platforms, with these priorities. TIA, --terry -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thank you. Lloyd Tel: 416-500-8014
Re: [on-asterisk] router recommendations
Which version of Linksys Router you are using ? I could not find a Linksys Router which have the USB + support with Tomato. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Thank you for sharing the information. It is a really good performance measure for a small business network. Mike *I used to have choppy tx audio when large ftp uploads occurred ( with a few different routers tested ), but Tomato has greatly improved this to the point where it almost never occurs. But due to cranking up the QOS for voip I have had instances where remote VNC connections become sluggish, but this expected with so much voip on my home Rogers connection.* -- I have seen exactly same problem when large FTP uploads. Thank you LLoyd On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Mike Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Lloyd, I'm using the WRT54GL with Tomato for my home office. Services: - dhcpd with about 16 devices on network. - one active openVPN connection to colocation network - QOS I have 5 workstations ( two with Zoiper softphones) , 8 servers running and one ploycom, one sipura 841, 2 spa-2002 with 3 modems attached for auto dialers from a couple servers and a Wii. 5 of these devices are utilizing the WPAWiFi also. I usually have 3 concurrent voip calls on the go (dialers) and have had as many as 5 voip calls running concurrently to remote Asterisk PBX. All devices are endpoints no local asterisk server running ( usually ). I used to have choppy tx audio when large ftp uploads occurred ( with a few different routers tested ), but Tomato has greatly improved this to the point where it almost never occurs. But due to cranking up the QOS for voip I have had instances where remote VNC connections become sluggish, but this expected with so much voip on my home Rogers connection. Mike Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd wrote: Mike, Tomato firmware with the following service 1. DHCP Server 2. WAN Gateway 3. QOS 4. VPN How many VOIP Phones (SNOM or AASTRA) can be use in this configuration. Thank you in advance Lloyd On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Mike Ashton[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Terry, I really like the Tomato firmware ( www.polarcloud.com ) it is based off of the dd-wrt but has really good QOS. Everything can been configured from the shell but the web GUI is very good. Only downside is it does not have any VPN capability by default. There is a altered version though that has openVPN also which I'm now running and works well. Mike Terry D. Cudney wrote: Hi all, I have two linksys routers, a wrt54gs and a wrt54l. Been running openwrt on them for a couple of years. The qos works but isn't great. My priorities are ease of configuration in a text mode (telnet or ssh) no gui, firewall security and qos for voip. There is no usb on these and I'm not interested in things like bittorrent. Can anyone recommend (or discredit) any of the other choices? ddwrt? tomato? other? firmware? for these platforms, with these priorities. TIA, --terry -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell:416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell:416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thank you. Lloyd Tel: 416-500-8014 -- Thank you. Lloyd Tel: 416-500-8014
Re: [on-asterisk] router recommendations
Terry, I really like the Tomato firmware ( www.polarcloud.com ) it is based off of the dd-wrt but has really good QOS. Everything can been configured from the shell but the web GUI is very good. Only downside is it does not have any VPN capability by default. There is a altered version though that has openVPN also which I'm now running and works well. Mike Terry D. Cudney wrote: Hi all, I have two linksys routers, a wrt54gs and a wrt54l. Been running openwrt on them for a couple of years. The qos works but isn't great. My priorities are ease of configuration in a text mode (telnet or ssh) no gui, firewall security and qos for voip. There is no usb on these and I'm not interested in things like bittorrent. Can anyone recommend (or discredit) any of the other choices? ddwrt? tomato? other? firmware? for these platforms, with these priorities. TIA, --terry -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl Ph: 647-722-2092 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax:416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
