Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
I wouldn't recommend the grandstreams, I had very bad experience using the grandstream 102, It kep locking up on me. The buttons are very bad buttons. The sound quality is just as bad. grandstream barbie^H^H^H^H^Hudgettone phones really sucks. they're cheap, and that's it roy ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't recommend the grandstreams, I had very bad experience using the grandstream 102, It kep locking up on me. The buttons are very bad buttons. The sound quality is just as bad. grandstream barbie^H^H^H^H^Hudgettone phones really sucks. they're cheap, and that's it roy That is very strange. I have one I just received a Grandstream BT-100 last Friday and hooked it up on Saturday. Flashed the firmware up to 1.0.5.22, I think, I know the .22 is correct, and it has been working flawlessly since. No lock ups and great sound quality. The only issue I had was with caller-id and that was my FUBAR as I overlooked removing the setting in sip.conf that manually set it to not be the incoming. Robert ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
Thanks Mark I am definitely interested in the budgetone 102 but am a little concerned about the 10mbit only Ethernet ports !! From what I have read, these are relatively new models and I like the addition of a second port to daisy chain your PC from the same network connection, however why 10mbits and not 100mbits ??, I would have thought this would be a minimum these days, I don't know anyone who still runs 10mbits to the desktop, and im not too happy about bottlenecking my customers fast Ethernet network with these phones A real shame really. Does anybody know if Grandstream will be addressing this or indeed if they have any current models with at least 100mbit ports Regards -Original Message- From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 14:27 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
On Monday 14 February 2005 13:00, Brett, Gary wrote: Thanks Mark I am definitely interested in the budgetone 102 but am a little concerned about the 10mbit only Ethernet ports !! From what I have read, these are relatively new models and I like the addition of a second port to daisy chain your PC from the same network connection, however why 10mbits and not 100mbits ??, I would have thought this would be a minimum these days, I don't know anyone who still runs 10mbits to the desktop, and im not too happy about bottlenecking my customers fast Ethernet network with these phones A real shame really. Does anybody know if Grandstream will be addressing this or indeed if they have any current models with at least 100mbit ports Please do not top post. I don't think there is a single IP phone which can flood a 10Mbps port. You do not need 100Mbps on a phone unless it has a passthrough to a PC. Let's see, using a 64Kbps codec and being generous, will use 100Kbps on the wire. Assuming the 10Mbps port can reliably run at 8Mbps, that means the phone would have to have 8 * 1000 / 100 = 80 concurrent RTP streams. Can anyone see anything wrong with my rough calculations? B -Original Message- From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 14:27 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:11:15 + Bob Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 13:00, Brett, Gary wrote: Thanks Mark I am definitely interested in the budgetone 102 but am a little concerned about the 10mbit only Ethernet ports !! From what I have read, these are relatively new models and I like the addition of a second port to daisy chain your PC from the same network connection, however why 10mbits and not 100mbits ??, I would have thought this would be a minimum these days, I don't know anyone who still runs 10mbits to the desktop, and im not too happy about bottlenecking my customers fast Ethernet network with these phones A real shame really. Does anybody know if Grandstream will be addressing this or indeed if they have any current models with at least 100mbit ports Please do not top post. I don't think there is a single IP phone which can flood a 10Mbps port. You do not need 100Mbps on a phone unless it has a passthrough to a PC. Let's see, using a 64Kbps codec and being generous, will use 100Kbps on the wire. Assuming the 10Mbps port can reliably run at 8Mbps, that means the phone would have to have 8 * 1000 / 100 = 80 concurrent RTP streams. Can anyone see anything wrong with my rough calculations? B -Original Message- From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 14:27 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary And middle posting is almost as bad. :-) But.. To the point... If you would have read what you were replying to, you would have noticed they did mention why weren't they 100Mbits connections on the 102 models for daisy chaining to a PC. Robert ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
On February 14, 2005 09:23 am, Robert Webb wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:11:15 + Bob Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 13:00, Brett, Gary wrote: Thanks Mark I am definitely interested in the budgetone 102 but am a little concerned about the 10mbit only Ethernet ports !! From what I have read, these are relatively new models and I like the addition of a second port to daisy chain your PC from the same network connection, however why 10mbits and not 100mbits ??, I would have thought this would be a minimum these days, I don't know anyone who still runs 10mbits to the desktop, and im not too happy about bottlenecking my customers fast Ethernet network with these phones A real shame really. Does anybody know if Grandstream will be addressing this or indeed if they have any current models with at least 100mbit ports Please do not top post. I don't think there is a single IP phone which can flood a 10Mbps port. You do not need 100Mbps on a phone unless it has a passthrough to a PC. Let's see, using a 64Kbps codec and being generous, will use 100Kbps on the wire. Assuming the 10Mbps port can reliably run at 8Mbps, that means the phone would have to have 8 * 1000 / 100 = 80 concurrent RTP streams. Can anyone see anything wrong with my rough calculations? B -Original Message- From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 14:27 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary And middle posting is almost as bad. :-) But.. To the point... If you would have read what you were replying to, you would have noticed they did mention why weren't they 100Mbits connections on the 102 models for daisy chaining to a PC. Robert ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Yes but failing to trim is even worse. :-) -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
And middle posting is almost as bad. :-) But.. To the point... If you would have read what you were replying to, you would have noticed they did mention why weren't they 100Mbits connections on the 102 models for daisy chaining to a PC. Robert SNIP Yes but failing to trim is even worse. :-) -A. Point well taken. ;-) Robert ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
I wouldn't recommend the grandstreams, I had very bad experience using the grandstream 102, It kep locking up on me. The buttons are very bad buttons. The sound quality is just as bad. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
Bob, Thanks for your reply, im not sure what top posting is, but I have been on holiday and am simply replying to a response that was given to my original question, If you could explain to me how I go about continuing the thread it would be much appreciated, with regards to your reply, I am indeed daisy chaining to the PC, hence my post point regarding bottlenecking the 100mbits to the desktop I just find it hard to understand the point of releasing a phone with a 2 port hub yet still limiting to ports to 10mbits, anyway , I take it there are no alternatives from budgetone, so I will have to at other low cost models Thanks all -Original Message- From: Bob Goddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2005 14:11 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets On Monday 14 February 2005 13:00, Brett, Gary wrote: Thanks Mark I am definitely interested in the budgetone 102 but am a little concerned about the 10mbit only Ethernet ports !! From what I have read, these are relatively new models and I like the addition of a second port to daisy chain your PC from the same network connection, however why 10mbits and not 100mbits ??, I would have thought this would be a minimum these days, I don't know anyone who still runs 10mbits to the desktop, and im not too happy about bottlenecking my customers fast Ethernet network with these phones A real shame really. Does anybody know if Grandstream will be addressing this or indeed if they have any current models with at least 100mbit ports Please do not top post. I don't think there is a single IP phone which can flood a 10Mbps port. You do not need 100Mbps on a phone unless it has a passthrough to a PC. Let's see, using a 64Kbps codec and being generous, will use 100Kbps on the wire. Assuming the 10Mbps port can reliably run at 8Mbps, that means the phone would have to have 8 * 1000 / 100 = 80 concurrent RTP streams. Can anyone see anything wrong with my rough calculations? B -Original Message- From: Mark Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 14:27 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets
I have been using an IN1002 generic handset (supposed to be an unbranded cisco copy but I am skeptical) for a few months (6months+) now, and it seems pretty stable - however I haven't found a reliable supplier Also there is almost no support for them.. I have switched to the grandstream budgetone 102 and they seem pretty good too. You can pretty much plug in and forget it with both phones. They do lock up occasionally (once a month to once every 3 months). I have yet to upgrade the firmware on the grandstreams... Mark Brett, Gary wrote: Sorry to move this up the list again, but does anybody have any advice on this -Original Message- From: Brett, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 10:49 To: 'asterisk-users@lists.digium.com' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Reccomendation for reliable handsets Hi there I'm sure this question has been raised a number of times before, but unfortunately I do not have direct access to the archives I am about to roll out Asterisk to a few companies and would like to hear your experiences about the various handsets/phones that are Asterisk compatible I am primarily looking for 2 options, the first being a cheaper model which will provide reliability whilst still maintaining a reasonable feature set, and a reliable model from the more expensive range with more features But the definite focus here is on reliability and ease of maintenance Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated; I would really like to hear your experiences/recommendations Cheers Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
