[ATrpms-users] RHEL4 getting started

2005-12-05 Thread Brian C. Huffman
All,

I'm new to using ATRPMS for RedHat Enterprise Linux and I'm completely
stumped.  I have the latest update for RHEL4 (U2) WS and latest updates
beyond that.  However, I haven't the least clue on how to proceed with
getting packages from ATRPMS.  Everything I download has dependencies on
newer versions (python, rpm, etc.) that aren't the stock versions in
RHEL.  I'm not even able to install yum (up2date won't resolve the
dependencies).

I've used this successfully with FC4 (for mythtv) and grew to love
ATRPMS, but I'm becoming very frustrated trying to use the repo for
RHEL.  Why are such standard things as RPM at a higher rev on ATRPMS?
It worries me to replace such an integral component of RHEL with the
non-RH supported versions.

Is there a guide on how to get started and get a system to a point where
either yum or apt-get will work?

Thanks,
Brian


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Re: [ATrpms-users] RHEL4 getting started

2005-12-05 Thread Axel Thimm
Hi Brian,

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:18:30AM -0500, Brian C. Huffman wrote:
 I'm new to using ATRPMS for RedHat Enterprise Linux and I'm completely
 stumped.  I have the latest update for RHEL4 (U2) WS and latest updates
 beyond that.  However, I haven't the least clue on how to proceed with
 getting packages from ATRPMS.  Everything I download has dependencies on
 newer versions (python, rpm, etc.) that aren't the stock versions in
 RHEL.  I'm not even able to install yum (up2date won't resolve the
 dependencies).

up2date is a very buggy resolver. Do you have any errors on simply
updating with up2date against atrpms?

 I've used this successfully with FC4 (for mythtv) and grew to love
 ATRPMS, but I'm becoming very frustrated trying to use the repo for
 RHEL.  Why are such standard things as RPM at a higher rev on ATRPMS?

All builds at ATrpms are using the same tested and QAed version of rpm
across all distributions. There was a time where this was actually a
blessed feature, since the vendor suplied rpms were severely broken.

 It worries me to replace such an integral component of RHEL with the
 non-RH supported versions.

Note that adding any 3rd party bits to a RHEL server may jeopardize
your support agreement. E.g. nvidia kmdls and similar may technically
not replace anything, but may have an impact on the system under
support.

 Is there a guide on how to get started and get a system to a point where
 either yum or apt-get will work?

Sorry, ATrpms' documentation sucks beyond any measure. That's a big
deficiency that's very high on the todo list, but never gets done :/

For i386 you can even use atrpms-kickstart. Otherwise doesn't
configuring up2date to use ATrpms help? I'd simply up2date one of yum,
apt, smart and continue with whatever got installed. But note that you
will have to create local repos for Red Hat's base and updates
packages, as I cannot distribute them due to licensing issues.

Just for reference: On my RHEL4 64 bit servers I rsync the following
and simply rpm -Uhv them:

atrpms-package-config-99-2.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
beecrypt-4.1.2-8_9.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
beecrypt-python-4.1.2-8_9.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
fedora-release-4-2_3.rhfc4.at.noarch.rpm
libbeecrypt6-4.1.2-8_9.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
librpm4.4-4.4.1-22_49.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
libselinux-1.23.10-1.99_3.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
popt-1.10.1-22_49.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
pythonabi-2.4.1-1.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
rpm-4.4.1-22_49.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
rpm-build-4.4.1-22_49.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
rpm-python-4.4.1-22_49.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
smart-0.36-20.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm
sqlite-3.1.2-2.99_1.rhfc4.at.x86_64.rpm

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Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net


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