Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals
You will have to admit that the Duo Discus has dominated its class very clearly, over time, so I disagree with your statement. Chris On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Bohli Compass - Wanted
Hello, I will shortly be shipping my glider Australia (permanently) so would like to swap my Northern Hemisphere Bohli compass for the Southern Hemisphere version. Does anyone have one they would be willing to sell? Thanks, Shaun ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals
I love the friendly banter Bernard, congrats to Schleicher in this round. Though I'd guess the Discus probably outdid the G29 in the results/standings in the years gone by? I notice many ASG29's V2's going up for sale, some notable pilots. Getting ready for the new Ventus perhaps? :) On 24 Aug 2015, at 17:51, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals
Your service as an agent in Australia is second to none regardless of any other matter Bernard. -Original Message- From: go_soaring Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals I love the friendly banter Bernard, congrats to Schleicher in this round. Though I'd guess the Discus probably outdid the G29 in the results/standings in the years gone by? I notice many ASG29's V2's going up for sale, some notable pilots. Getting ready for the new Ventus perhaps? :) On 24 Aug 2015, at 17:51, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] German Nationals
Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals
Hi Cee Yes, I’m happy to admit that the Duo did dominate its class for years but it is equally fair to say that this was due to other manufacturers not producing a 20 m glider at the time. The DG 1000 came on the market seven (7) years later and Schleicher has never produced an unflapped 20 m two-seater. The same can be said for the Arcus. I have flown it extensively and it is undoubtedly a good glider but please keep in mind that it also enjoyed a total monopoly for six (6) long years. Now the ASG 32 is on the market and if early competition results are anything to go by its market dominance will also disappear. I toured the Schleicher factory less than 3 months ago and all I could see was ASG 32s in various stages of production. Let’s look at the early days of 18m class now. At the time the only aircraft designed for the competition scene was the Ventus 2. Competition results were impressive because DG and Schleicher focused on the recreational pilot and developed self launching gliders, namely the DG 800 and the ASH 26E. They were produced in large quantities but their high empty weight and their limited range of wing loadings excluded them from the competition scene right from the beginning. What I’m trying to say is that dominating a class is easy when you haven’t got competitors. I hope you will admit that the ASG 29 dominance isn't due to the lack of other gliders in its class. Kind regards Bernard On 24 Aug 2015, at 10:20 pm, Cee Kay fibremi...@gmail.com wrote: You will have to admit that the Duo Discus has dominated its class very clearly, over time, so I disagree with your statement. Chris On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net mailto:ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net mailto:ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 143, Issue 19
bern, seems a bit like your talking about a one design race. top German pilots not flying a German plane, I suspect not. statistics, statistics, statistics and damn lies, it's always in the context! Richard (also in sales) On 25 Aug 2015, at 12:30 pm, aus-soaring-requ...@lists.internode.on.net wrote: Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-soaring-requ...@lists.internode.on.net You can reach the person managing the list at aus-soaring-ow...@lists.internode.on.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest... Today's Topics: 1. Bohli Compass - Wanted (Shaun McLaughlin) 2. Re: German Nationals (Future Aviation Pty. Ltd.) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:11:54 +0100 From: Shaun McLaughlin shaunm...@gmail.com Subject: [Aus-soaring] Bohli Compass - Wanted To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Message-ID: caejqvmempaf2bq_vjsnsezxceyegyzgozaz3uk8gg03-bmo...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello, I will shortly be shipping my glider Australia (permanently) so would like to swap my Northern Hemisphere Bohli compass for the Southern Hemisphere version. Does anyone have one they would be willing to sell? Thanks, Shaun -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20150824/01ea8f41/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:09:21 +0930 From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] German Nationals To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Message-ID: 45c41313-199a-4079-9e45-52c77aefd...@internode.on.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Cee Yes, I?m happy to admit that the Duo did dominate its class for years but it is equally fair to say that this was due to other manufacturers not producing a 20 m glider at the time. The DG 1000 came on the market seven (7) years later and Schleicher has never produced an unflapped 20 m two-seater. The same can be said for the Arcus. I have flown it extensively and it is undoubtedly a good glider but please keep in mind that it also enjoyed a total monopoly for six (6) long years. Now the ASG 32 is on the market and if early competition results are anything to go by its market dominance will also disappear. I toured the Schleicher factory less than 3 months ago and all I could see was ASG 32s in various stages of production. Let?s look at the early days of 18m class now. At the time the only aircraft designed for the competition scene was the Ventus 2. Competition results were impressive because DG and Schleicher focused on the recreational pilot and developed self launching gliders, namely the DG 800 and the ASH 26E. They were produced in large quantities but their high empty weight and their limited range of wing loadings excluded them from the competition scene right from the beginning. What I?m trying to say is that dominating a class is easy when you haven?t got competitors. I hope you will admit that the ASG 29 dominance isn't due to the lack of other gliders in its class. Kind regards Bernard On 24 Aug 2015, at 10:20 pm, Cee Kay fibremi...@gmail.com wrote: You will have to admit that the Duo Discus has dominated its class very clearly, over time, so I disagree with your statement. Chris On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net mailto:ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good evening all While talking to Schleicher just a few minutes ago I learned that the first 10 (ten) places at the German Nationals went to ASG 29 pilots. In France the results were similar but only the first 8 (eight) places were taken by ASG 29 pilots. If my information is correct, no other glider has ever dominated its class as clearly as the ASG 29. Sorry, Adam - it just had to be said!!! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. ec...@internode.on.net mailto:ec...@internode.on.net Ph. 08 8449 2871 Mob. 0412 981 204 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring
