Re: [Aus-soaring] Pawnee tow plane
Too late. That's a very old ad. We bought it last December. Now towing cadets in SA Cath Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2015, at 7:15 am, Peter (PCS3) p...@internode.on.net wrote: http://www.glidersales.com.au/tugs.php On 3/08/2015 2:48 PM, Gary Stevenson wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know of such an aircraft that might be available (in Australia), for sale? If so, details please, preferably off list. Thanks, Gary ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
I don't know about the size of a Cobra one but the Stemme I work on has a Komet trailer that definitely is not tall enough for a kookaburra wing. Cath Sent from my iPad On 9 Jul 2015, at 1:27 pm, John Orton johno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have done some work on/with a Stemme S10 trailer, it was the S10 that was a Camden for many years. I have been told it was the first Cobra trailer built for an S10. It is a large clamshell Cobra (I think) with a fibreglass top. The arrangement is the outer wing panels go in the sides as per standard method and the heavy wing centre section goes in along the bottom floor. The Fuselage then sits on a wide dolly that straddles the main wing section Also the tail plane goes in the roof I think. The trailer came with its own mobile hydraulic hoist which you had to assemble with bolts and wing nuts. The hoist/crane was a modified engine hoist with large pneumatic tyres. Those engine hoists are available from super crap auto for $250 to $300 I think. It works for the Stemme however the cord width for a Kookaburra is fairly big and hence it may be difficult to locate the wing underneath the fuse. Regards, John Orton On 09/07/2015 7:57 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Peter, I'd have a look at the trailer for the Stemme S10. The one I saw had a kind of crane for the center section built into the trailer. Can't remember much else about it as I wasn't that interested and it was twenty plus years ago. Similar problem. Two seat, wide fuselage, three piece wing with heavy center section. Mike At 08:27 AM 9/07/2015, you wrote: No, The trailer is a modified open flat bed trailer, to which the Glider is sort of bolted on. Getting the wing centre section off was difficult for 3 people. Getting the fuselage off may take a vertical lift crane! A redesign is required so that no one lifts anything. I am still crowd sourcing ideas for that. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Gary Stevenson gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Derek, Quite possibly, some might say exactly the same thing about the aircraft! Gliding legend Doug Robinson, (from GCV), called the short wing version a Brickaburra. Was this tongue in cheek I wonder? I think that somewhere along the line I helped to rig a couple of LW Kookaburra's, but this is NOT an experience that lives forever in my memory! Perhaps this is a very good thing! As always, I imagine the secret to rigging this type is to have plenty of man-power, and just one person (who knows exactly how everything - glider and trailer - works), to coordinate things. I wonder what an unbiased person might say about the practically and ease of using Emilis's trailer! Does such a person still exist out there? Also, how well did this trailer tow? BTW Peter C, does your trailer match Emilis's description? Gary -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015 7:57 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra Sounds hideous... -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of emilis prelgauskas Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2015 1:04 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra I don't know where GLZ is these days. When I owned it, it had an open trailer ex Southern Cross GC. I then built an enclosed trailer which was sold on to the late Mike Valentine and John Viney. This trailer has (from memory) the tailplane in the roof, the outer wing panels side by side with root ends in the front right corner (looking from the rear open door), the fuselage with rudder at the front end diagonally across the trailer, and the centre section against the left wall with underside facing outward. The centre section is in a cradle at the front trailer end in a rolling frame, so that it can rotate horizontal once the centre section is clear of the trailer rear with its door swung out of the way. The centre section is at a height that clears the fuselage height rolling on the ground. A stand holds the external end of the horizontal centre section. This permits the fuselage to be rolled under, tilted away from the trailer side as the external stand is removed and the centre section mated at this somewhat inclined angle. Once rigged, this part airframe rolls aft away from the trailer and the other lighter parts can be carried and rigged. On 06/07/2015, at 4:04 PM, Peter Champness wrote: We are attempting to put VH-GRN into service. The trailer is pretty atrocious and it  is a lot of trouble to unpack and to load the
[Aus-soaring] Looking for tow release support for a Pawnee
Apologies if this is a duplicate - posted earlier and hadn’t seen it appear after several hours Hi All The AAFC in SA has a Pawnee coming as a towplane but it needs a release fitted. We have been looking at one with TOST off the shelf but they are having trouble being able to deliver it in our timeframe. Does anyone have a mount for a pawnee (with or without E.O as we can get one drawn up). Doesn’t have to come with a release - we have one available. Please contact me directly by email Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Unsubscribe
I just ignore it like I always do but would be better if it didn’t happen. After a while you get selective deafness Cath On 13 Sep 2014, at 5:37 pm, Sean Jorgensen-Day sean.jorgensen...@bigpond.com wrote: Cath, Since you are still here, could you enlighten us to your thoughts on the offensive posts? Sean From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2014 12:54 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Unsubscribe Oh dear What does this say about me? I'm still here. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 13 Sep 2014, at 10:32 am, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Jim, Don't blame you.This has become beyond stupid. Maybe there aren't more women in gliding because they are TOO BLOODY SENSIBLE! Mike At 10:01 AM 13/09/2014, you wrote: Unsubscribe me please Jim Crowhurst ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Unsubscribe
Oh dear What does this say about me? I'm still here. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 13 Sep 2014, at 10:32 am, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Jim, Don't blame you.This has become beyond stupid. Maybe there aren't more women in gliding because they are TOO BLOODY SENSIBLE! Mike At 10:01 AM 13/09/2014, you wrote: Unsubscribe me please Jim Crowhurst ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing
I’m not convinced the wheel was up looking at that video. I think it might actually have had the wheel down. Cath On 30 Aug 2014, at 8:07 pm, dennis hipperson dennishipper...@gmail.com wrote: Except in this case no sucking down was evident, nor was any bouncing into the air and plunging nose first as someone mentioned. Dennis On 29/08/14 2:52 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 02:39 PM 29/08/2014, you wrote: Surely there are so many variables (fuselage shape, surface of water, C of G position, etc) that almost every case would be different. I'm sure there would be examples of gear up gear down examples succeeding and failing. Nick. It is my understanding that the point of putting the gear down is to act as a spoiler. See here: http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/spins.html#sec-teaspoon-effect Think of the bottom of the fuselage as the convex side of the teaspoon in the demo and as it hits the water it gets sucked down. There is a reason that hydroplanes, flying boats and seaplane floats have a step. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing
Many flight manuals will make a recommendation. Every one I've read says land with the gear down. Maybe they have enough operational experience from the Nordic countries. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 29 Aug 2014, at 1:58 pm, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote: Not quite sure why you would put the gear down when landing on water. Is there an explanation as to why? Wouldn’t this add excess drag that may cause the nose to dig in? This example shows a wheel up landing on water doesn’t adversely push the nose under. Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 2:21 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, dennis hipperson dennishipper...@gmail.com wrote: Also found this: Landing on water: Over the years, there has been an on-going debate on whether it is better to land gear up or gear down on water. Current thought from Tom Knauff is to always land gear down. I’d have expected that the current thought would be to land in accordance with the “Ditching” section in the aircraft’s flight manual. - mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Altair and Vega still available
Yes please _Cath On 14 Aug 2014, at 7:27 am, Peter (PCS3) p...@internode.on.net wrote: Do you want to list on www.glidersales.com.au? PeterS:-) On 12/08/2014 2:27 PM, Catherine Conway wrote: Hi All Sorry for the ad I still have an Altair and Vega for sale. Summer is coming - make an offer -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Altair and Vega still available
Hi All Sorry for the ad I still have an Altair and Vega for sale. Summer is coming - make an offer -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 3.
Need some new Pez! Sent from my iPhone On 15 May 2014, at 12:54 am, Jim Staniforth staniforth...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps you read the cartoons! Jim On 5/14/2014 12:46 AM, Derek Ruddock wrote: Will that make the winner of a comp a cunning lingus? From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jim Staniforth Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2014 1:10 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 3. Still hoping it will be Lingus. Pez D. Spencer Sailplane Racer cartoons at: http://archive.soaravenal.com/Pez.htm Jim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Wingspans
I'm probably too far away to get it. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Apr 2014, at 6:08 pm, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com wrote: Of course!! it is just that had I known I might have gone!! and I think it is an eminently sensible thing to do. Ron On 24 April 2014 15:04, Matthew Scutter yellowplant...@gmail.com wrote: Some of us got it. I think Easter comps are generally more about fun than rules though. On 24 Apr 2014 16:58, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com wrote: nobody got it. On 23 April 2014 20:36, Catherine Conway c...@internode.on.net wrote: ZBY IS 26.5 m Cath Sent from my iPhone On 23 Apr 2014, at 9:44 pm, Rob Wintulich r...@signwizard.com.au wrote: Ron, Schempp Hirth website says 4DM has 26.5m wingspan! -Original Message- From: Ron Sanders Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:55 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wingspans I was just wondering what is the wingspan of VH GXY, Nimbus 4 DM?? Ron ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Wingspans
ZBY IS 26.5 m Cath Sent from my iPhone On 23 Apr 2014, at 9:44 pm, Rob Wintulich r...@signwizard.com.au wrote: Ron, Schempp Hirth website says 4DM has 26.5m wingspan! -Original Message- From: Ron Sanders Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:55 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wingspans I was just wondering what is the wingspan of VH GXY, Nimbus 4 DM?? Ron ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] vale Kevin Sedgman
Thanks Emilis We heard the news here on the GFA Engine Course at Waikerie a little earlier this evening and raised a glass in his memory. A sad loss for the gliding movement and a friend to many. He will be missed -Cath On 24 Mar 2014, at 8:07 pm, emilis prelgauskas emi...@emilis.sa.on.net wrote: I am advised that tomorrow's Adelaide Advertiser will provide the details for the funeral of Kevin Sedgman possibly on Thursday. Kevin passed on very recently. He is remembered as a long time glider pilot, sailplane builder and restorer, involved in the sport in SA and Qld, and founding member of the fraternal Vintage Gliders Australia. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Waikerie scores
We haven't flown yet! Sent from my iPhone On 1 Jan 2014, at 8:25 pm, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com wrote: When and where are they going to be available?? Ron ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] European transport
Or have big open class two seaters where even with friends helping a little extra is nice Cath Sent from my iPhone On 25 Dec 2013, at 10:40 am, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Interesting. I'm surprised there is a market for single person rigging tools in Australia with a second signature required. I guess people just ignore the rules when it suits. Mike At 08:07 AM 25/12/2013, you wrote: Yet another one from IMI http://www.imi-gliding.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=45Itemid=100027lang=en Merry Christmas Cath On 25/12/2013, at 7:31 AM, Bob Ward wrote: Peter and other interested parties. As Jim points out, there are many manufacturers of one person rigging devices However, one of the best that I have found on the web is manufactured by the Enstroj company in Slovakia. This same company manufactures the brushless electric motors being used by Pipistrel and other glider manufacturers. They have a very good web site, with a fifteen minute video of the device (SPRC) being used to rig an electric Apis self launcher, which was the test bed for the brushless electric motor. Also a good video of the Apis , which is now available from Pipistrel. see www.enstroj.si . The Pipistrel site is also worth a look. They have an interesting range of sailplanes available, and sell at least some of them in kit form, for those with talent, time and an interest in home building. Regards, and merry Christmas to all Bob Ward From: Peter Champness Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:58 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] European transport Hello Bob, Sorry I don't have any info on a container from Europe. However I am interested in any device that makes rigging gliders easier. Can you tell me a bit about your new device? Peter Champness On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Bob Ward wendo...@westnet.com.au wrote: If anyone has a container or trailer coming into Australia from Europe in the next few months, and could accommodate a 25 KG wooden box with dimensions 820x660x230 mm I would like to hear from them. I am hoping to purchase a particularly good one person rigging device manufactured in Slovenia. Freight on its own however makes it prohibitively expensive. Regards Bob Ward wendo...@westnet.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Records in 20 m 2-seater class
I could wash the Kookaburra ... Oh wait - its 11m not 20m ;) -Cath On 21 Dec 2013, at 11:04 pm, James Dutschke james.m.dutsc...@gmail.com wrote: More importantly your blanik. Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2013, at 22:21, Derek Ruddock drudd...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don’t forget the DG1000’s J From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: Saturday, 21 December 2013 9:42 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Records in 20 m 2-seater class The Minimum Performances required to set Australian records in the 20m 2-seater class have been reviewed and are now considerably easier to achieve. The new list has been posted on the GFA website. When the class was introduced a year ago, the Minimum Performances were set based on the existing Australian Standard Class records at the time. Following two National Championships in this class, we have been able to make a more realistic estimate of what performances may be expected. So, polish up the club’s Duo Discus and have a go! Pam Kurstjens ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Airline involvement
Phoebus's have a seatpan which is conducive to sliding backwards - particularly on a winch launch. I used to hang on to the undercarriage lever so I didn't end up in the luggage compartment on launch. -Cath On 14/11/2013, at 12:28 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 06:40 AM 14/11/2013, you wrote: I have shares in ZAF Phoebus C. Although I am about to give up on it having tried every comfort trick in the book and have failed dismally. What kind of parachute are you using? Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] State Comp Required Pilot Qualifications
Well said Tim I certainly appreciate your efforts and have seen just how much you and Joy have contributed so that I can enjoy myself. Thank you. Sincerely. I'd love to see you get the opportunity to fly a bit more yourself instead of working for the enjoyment of all of us. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 13/09/2013, at 7:35 PM, Tim Shirley tshir...@internode.on.net wrote: Hmm, What I said, is that our insurers require a Competitors licence as a qualification for entry, in order to indemnify contest officials against the consequences of a claim arising from incidents at that contest. Is anyone suggesting that there should be NO insurance for contest officials? This isn’t a rule of the competition. It is there to ensure that there will actually be some officials willing to run the competition! To the best of my knowledge, the issue of a Competition Licence does not require anything beyond the CFI’s signature to say that in his or her opinion, the applicant is competent to hold the licence. There is nothing there about any specific qualification, though clearly a pilot would need a X/C rating to enter a competition. Please try to distinguish between the GFA and an Insurance company – they are not quite the same thing. And one thing more. I have yet to be paid to officiate at any gliding contest. The best I have managed is some help with expenses or some accommodation. I’ve been an official at more gliding competitions than I can remember or count. But if you guys are not willing to do at least something to help with the risks of litigation, then count me out in the future. You don’t deserve my or anyone elses help. I can handle grumpy pilots. I can deal with dusty airfields and 45C. I can make scoring systems work. I can even get around silly rulemakers. But I have serious difficulties getting my enthusiasm back when people just take it for granted that I’ll be there to run next one. Cheers Tim Tra dire e fare c’è mezzo il mare From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Colin Collum Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013 18:35 To: 'Mal Bruce'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] State Comp Required Pilot Qualifications Dear Mal, You seem to be offended by John’s suggestion that some of our badges are equivalent to boy scout badges, but let’s be honest—isn’t that what some of them are? You also seem to be upset by his questioning of the requirement of a 5 hour flight for competition pilots. Are our rules so perfect that there is no room to challenge them? Tim Shirley has indicated that the “5 hour flight” is an insurance requirement for competitions, but I am not aware of any evidence that this is based on anything other than someone’s theory that it is reasonable. Maybe alternative “qualifications” could be negotiated if enough people thought it was reasonable? You make a couple of interesting observations about fatigue and some industries’ responses to the admission of fatigue—I just wish when I said I felt fatigued someone would stand me down” J. But, have you never been tempted to yawn [surely a sign of fatigue or boredom or loss of concentration] while flying a glider? Did you promptly ground yourself? Will you promptly ground yourself [i.e. land at the first place it is safe to do so] if you do yawn when 300km from your destination? John raised some reasonable issues [perhaps not quite as subtlety as he might] and I think they deserve reasonable and reasoned answers. Regards, Colin From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:43 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] State Comp Required Pilot Qualifications Heavy vehicle drivers can drive for 5 hours and 15 minutes with out a break I guess they are professionals we drive up to 12 - 14 hours depending on what fatigue management rules they operate under. Long hall pilots are often on duty for 16 hours. If you were working for NSW State Transit Authority to mention fatigue or say you are fatigued you would be stood down and sent off for medical checks this did does happen, from a close family member this has happened at Qantas as well. The two hours fatigue caters for the lowest common denominator, not for professional drivers. In gliding, driving and flying they make rules. The reason they are unlikely to change the rules for you is they are there for safety and liability reasons. Southern cross gliding club used to make pilots stay local at Forbes and do their five hours. Before venturing off on their 50 km flights. I suggest you do the same. I was 14 when I started gliding I have
Re: [Aus-soaring] Just for JR
Clearly I need to give my horse a job. Cath Sent from my iPad On 21/05/2013, at 5:14 PM, Christopher McDonnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com wrote: http://framework.latimes.com/2013/05/21/horse-launched-sailplane/ Horse launch.jpg ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] A,B,C Certificate tests
Hi All I've been looking on the GFA website for the latest A,B,C Certificate tests to give to some student pilots, but I can't find them anywhere. Am I missing something or have they disappeared? -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] A,B,C Certificate tests
The claim form is there but not the tests Sent from my iPhone On 14/04/2013, at 4:32 PM, Tim Shirley tshir...@internode.on.net wrote: http://www.glidingaustralia.org/GFA-Sport/fai-forms.html Cheers Tim Tra dire e fare c’è mezzo il mare -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 17:01 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] A,B,C Certificate tests Hi All I've been looking on the GFA website for the latest A,B,C Certificate tests to give to some student pilots, but I can't find them anywhere. Am I missing something or have they disappeared? -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6235 - Release Date: 04/09/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Platinum Diamond Badge/Diploma?
Start doing them again with lower performance? I did all badges up to diamond (except height) in the Boomerang. Gotta get to Bunyan and do that one day. Sent from my iPhone On 22/03/2013, at 9:06 AM, Adam Woolley go_soar...@hotmail.com wrote: Just throwing it out there, should we have one more badge as the subject line suggests? For those who have got everything from 'A Certificate' to their '1000km diploma' (including AUS badges, 600, 700, 800, 900). Does anyone know how many have achieved the full suite? Cheers, WPP ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields
I know of a gopher being used for this quite successfully. Cheap too second hand. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 05/03/2013, at 2:49 PM, Ian Mc Phee mrsoar...@gmail.com wrote: All Simon I hear Simon H is an electric powered vehicle expert (Solar Challenge Darwin to Adelaide) and wondering if you can offer thoughts on suitable electric vehicle which could be used around airfield and towing gliders. I am sure within a few years it will be the standard vehicle for airport use. Recently at Bathurst I noticed an electric skate board for personal transport to the launch point - now just need a larger glider towing version!!! Off topic I have heard overseas insurance companies may consider you are not covered for damage to a glider when towing behind a vehicle. May be a good reason for driving very slowly when towing glider as just maybe you may not be covered (esp if using other than factory gear). 18 months ago I heard about a Libelle Written Off!! being towed behind vehicle and many many gliders with about $5000 damage from towing behind a vehicle . Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Simple question straw poll, (offlist reply)
It's very common in commercial ops that I have visited in the USA but I refuse to do it Cath Sent from my iPhone On 01/03/2013, at 1:02 AM, Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au wrote: Why the straw poll? I had the audacity to question a fellow level 2 as to why he taxied a heavy club two seater (a DG1000 with 2 POB) to within 5-10m of the back of the launching grid (there were other gliders on the grid). I was told that since I didn't have anywhere near the vast years of experience he had, 1,00's of kms of X-country he did and I wasn't as regular flier as he was that I had no right to criticise him. I was the level 2 running the day. Just trying to see how prevalent taxying up behind the grid is. Great to hear from you! ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider engine fire
If it had the Rotax engine there is no prop brake. Just a rubber stopper that you deploy with a handle. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 10/01/2013, at 1:07 PM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: I doubt that a prop brake would last long enough to cause a fire before wearing out. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Aviation's crazy jumbled up metrics....
30:1 is roughly 10 km per 1000'. Done plenty of final glides in the boomerang where this works. Nothing hard about those mixed units. Useful numbers for higher performance too. Just go faster. We are not going to change it so not worth worrying about really. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 21/10/2012, at 10:20 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 09:29 AM 21/10/2012, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0046_01CDAF76.EA2A39D0 Content-Language: en-us While I can agree �meters per second� does not help, many other aspects of the metric system would make life so much simpler. OTOH, 30:1 is 200 feet per nautical mile, 40:1 is 150 feet per nautical mile, 20:1 is 300 feet per nautical mile. Or work various glide angles in miles/thousand feet. It makes more sense to use nautical miles and then we're like the rest of western world aviation. It is the damn kilometers that have no place here although if you remember 33:1 is 100 feet per kilometer (10km/thousand feet)that's a safe glide angle that most modern sailplanes will achieve even in a moderate headwind. Anyway, before electronic glide computers we used circular slide rules not mental arithmetic. Nowadays the units don't matter as the little glide bar goes below the glider symbol and you can go home. If you have one start point and a fixed task you don't even need to do more than take off, follow the big arrow (it swings around at the turns) and wait until the glide bar goes under the glider symbol. Then TPTB invented AAT and multiple start points which stuffs things up completely and demands lots of pilot interaction with the glide computer in the air. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Nexus 7 Integration with Flarm, 12V supply
I've found the simplest thing is to put a USB port in the glider for these sorts of things. The easiest way to so this is to get a cigarette lighter socket then a plug in USB power adapter. You get get these very small and light and fit flush with the face of the cig socket. The advantage is that the plug in USB adapter also does the 12 - 5 V adaption for you and it all looks neat. The cig socket has two wires that can go into the aircraft bus (fuse is a good idea). I can try to photograph it if needed. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 05/10/2012, at 4:22 PM, Paul Mander p...@mander.net.au wrote: I’ve bought a Nexus 7 and installed XCSoar onto it, and I’m delighted with the result although I’m yet to fly with it. My next step is to integrate it into the ASH. Mounting it is easy, getting a 5V power supply to it sounds easy, but what I’d like to do is to create an interface that takes power from the glider’s 12V system, and the data output from the Flarm, and turns them into an input acceptable to the Nexus. Any advice? Thanks, Paul Mander ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Nexus 7 Integration with Flarm, 12V supply
Sorry replied on the run and missed the serial data requirement. Good solution posted though. Sent from my iPhone On 05/10/2012, at 5:38 PM, Paul Mander p...@mander.net.au wrote: Thanks Bernie (and Cathy and Sam), this will do it. I'll get my Yo Yo under way. All the best, Paul -Original Message- From: Bernie Baer [mailto:bb...@internode.on.net] Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012 5:41 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: p...@mander.net.au Subject: Re: Nexus 7 Integration with Flarm, 12V supply Hi Paul, what most people do is build an adapter that converts the serial RS232 data from the Flarm (or suitable vario) to USB host using a device called a IOIO board (pronounced yo-yo). https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10748? You can see the one I built here: https://picasaweb.google.com/baer.bernie/IOIOForCAI302 which I built based on this information: http://xcsoar-robd.wikispaces.com/XCSoar+Android+-+to+-+RS232+%28IOIO%29 If I were to build another, I would model it from the one shown here, using the exact same components: http://legalland.free.fr/Tuto.html Those components can be sourced locally (or not): IOIO suppliers in Aus: http://australianrobotics.com.au/products/ioio-for-android-v2 http://www.oceancontrols.com.au/SFC-070.html MAX232 supplier in Aus: http://www.x-on.com.au/InventoryDetails.aspx?id=1228522s=1 MAX232 data sheet: http://www.mikroe.com/products/view/166/max232-board/ There are plenty of threads discussing the IOIO board at the XCSoar Hardware forum here: http://forum.xcsoar.org/viewforum.php?f=3 Eg: http://forum.xcsoar.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=52 It's also possible to buy them tailor made, eg: http://tvlnet.de/joomla/ That should get you started! Regards, Bernie. Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:52:54 +1000 From: Paul Mander p...@mander.net.au Subject: [Aus-soaring] Nexus 7 Integration with Flarm, 12V supply To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Message-ID: D6BA6F148EFB4817A92A72E3B33CD774@Laptop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've bought a Nexus 7 and installed XCSoar onto it, and I'm delighted with the result although I'm yet to fly with it. My next step is to integrate it into the ASH. Mounting it is easy, getting a 5V power supply to it sounds easy, but what I'd like to do is to create an interface that takes power from the glider's 12V system, and the data output from the Flarm, and turns them into an input acceptable to the Nexus. Any advice? Thanks, Paul Mander ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Next Winter Lectures
Hi Guys Next SAGA Winter lecture is tomorrow night. Topics are Oulanding and Glider Preparation. See you there. Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Instruments
Hmmm reminds me of an Ed Kilbourne song Sent from my iPhone On 13/09/2012, at 7:09 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 10:55 PM 12/09/2012, you wrote: Lucky I had a life before Jets! ;) I have used the NZ rules [only one climb though] , with EFR I would be happy. All comps are unfair, but this would only add to that. Tom Once you have the electronics for the attitude instrumentation you also have most of an autopilot, you only need the servos to make one. With modern LiFePO4 batteries the electrical power isn't a problem. The Duckhawk already has electrically actuated flaps which means it is easy to organise *never* being in the wrong flap setting. So thermalling becomes a matter of pushing the leftor right button and the glider smoothly rolls into a co-ordinated left or right turn at 40 degrees of bank angle at the optimum lift coefficient for minimum sink. You will have a button to roll off the bank to straight flight and this could be used for centering. The ball would be in the middle the whole time so you'll need footrests as you won't have your feet on the pedals. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] One man rigging tools.
I have an imi one I bought for the nimbus 4dm. Haven't used it yet. Not expecting it to be a one man rig but just to lessen the number o helpers I need. Sent from my iPhone On 04/09/2012, at 3:57 PM, Pam Kurstjens p...@kurstjens.com wrote: We bought one from IMI a year ago and we are very pleased with it, rigging the ASH31 and Nimbus 4. They mailed it to us from Czech. http://www.imi-gliding.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=45Itemid=100027lang=en Pam From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012 4:17 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] One man rigging tools. Hi Don, I have a professionally made Cobra one-person rigging stand which works well with a clamshell trailer. It has only been used half a dozen times since new, and is unmarked. I am seriously considering selling mine as it is not being used - I live next door to the airfield and the glider is rigged and hangared most of the time. Contact me off-list if you are interested. Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare On 4/09/2012 14:51, Don Woodward wrote: G’day, I’m considering purchasing a one man rigging dolly so I can rig and derig my 20 single handed without having to rely on help each time. I’ve noticed several types on the market on websites like wings and wheels etc but does anyone have any experience with using these? Are there good ones and bad ones, which one is the best? I’ve seen videos on you tube demonstrating their use but I rarely actually see glider pilots using them at the field. Any opinions or experiences people have had with these wing dollies (good or bad) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Don Woodward VH-GIB ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial
I'm pretty sure Emilis did a flight of about 680km in the boomerang. I think he landed at Bordertown? Cath Sent from my iPhone On 19/07/2012, at 12:07 AM, Terry Neumann tfneum...@internode.on.net wrote: On 18/07/2012 11:18 PM, Peter Brookman wrote: I think Geoff Tremain did a flight in the Bordertown Boomerang in late 1960's early 70's , Bordertown- Burra return which is over 600 kms and was a record distance at that time. If I recall correctly, this flight was on 15th February 1968. His turning point was possibly Mount Bryan - a little further even than Burra.It was a very good flight by Geoff - It may have been written up in AG? I was in the air on the same day.It was one of the best XC days I have ever encountered, and I should have aimed further than I did, but a 300km triangle seemed like a fair challenge at the time with a retrieve crew engaged in other activities which would have meant a long wait in a hot paddock if it didn't turn out. Happily it did. I think Sue Martin may have also set a record on the same day, but then it was all a long time ago now. Regards, TN ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Next SAGA Winter Lecture
Hi All Reminder that we DO have a SAGA Winter Lecture NEXT MONDAY NIGHT 9th of July at Adelaide Uni. This time we have special guest lecturer David Pietch visiting from Canberra who can give us some insights into flying the Wave at Bunyan. For those that don't know him, David is a very experienced glider pilot who also used to fly F18's with the RAAF. Frank Johann from the Adelaide Soaring Club will also give an introduction to Ridge and Wave. The program calls to meet at 6:50 if possible but I understand it can be hard to get a park before 7 so we will look for people until about 7:10 and start at 7:15pm. Tea and coffee provided. See you there Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] URGENT - Latest SAGA Winter Lecture Schedule
Hi All There is an error in the current Winter Lectures schedule. There is NO DI LECTURE TONIGHT. A 3 went missing. The DI Course is the 23rd July and 30th July for the Engine component. Please note update schedule as attached. Could this please be forwarded as a matter of urgency to all club mailing lists Thanks Cath SAGA Winter Lectures 2012.xlsx.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Release tester
Ottfur releases are tested in situ for some of the tests. Try your local RTO/air. Many states have testers you can borrow. Sent from my iPhone On 21/06/2012, at 4:19 PM, Michael Scutter michael_scut...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I think the ad277 tests require removal for teating Michael On 21/06/2012, at 4:06 PM, Kenneth Caldwell golflimaunif...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone on the list point me to a design for a release tester? (That is to say a device which can safely apply a load on the tow hook up to about 600 daN without removing the hook from the glider) My Googling skills seem to have failed me Ken ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Foot launched glider
Looks like fun The ultimate crossover On 06/06/2012, at 9:00 PM, Angus Stewart wrote: Don't know if you lot have seen this yet - have these been done before? I think I might want one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpemglwS8XAfeature=youtu.be ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio near collision.
I recently operated motorglider for AEFs at a large regional airport with RPT and the flying doctor. The aircraft was fitted with a device that was both a flarm and an ADSB (I think). And yes it had a transponder connected. It worked. I spoke to the flying doctor on the ground after we both landed and we both had traffic alerts. Details here. http://www.garrecht.com/index.php/en/ads-b/trx-2000 Cath Sent from my iPhone On 20/04/2012, at 9:07 PM, Simon Hackett si...@internode.com.au wrote: In the unlikely event you've not all seen it already, here's one way the outcome could have turned out: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007288.html I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider pilots seem passionately opposed to for their own reasons, the notion of regularly operating transponders in gliders is one that I personally believe would be of active assistance here (I certainly do so). I think that doing so could directly improve safety in this regard [noting that the link above indicates the glider concerned had one, but it wasn't powered up - like all electronics, its far less effective when its switched off] I'm not directly arguing for mandating transponders in gliders (and not specifically seeking to re-start that particular debate). Rather, I'm just indicating there are significant merits in choosing to operate a transponder in a glider, because having ATC and TCAS equipped powered aircraft able to see *you* is definitely a source of additional alerted avoidance of mid air collisions - whether or not you have something in your glider that works in the other direction. I've found that air traffic control is frequently helpful to VFR and IFR aircraft, in that they will call you up proactively and advise of the presence of transponder-equipped unidentified traffic in your vicinity on a pretty routine basis. They're as interested in avoiding mid air contacts as the rest of us are. In addition, aircraft like the powered plane I'm fortunate enough to fly also paints any aircraft with a working transponder on my moving map... with position, relative altitude, and aural and visual alerting of nearby traffic. This is becoming very much more common over time, and increasingly affordable as a retrofit as well (cf. Zaon units, and the always-nearly-available Power FLARM units). As for all of the other ways we might become aware of another aircraft in our vicinity (Mark I eyeball, use of VHF radio, FLARM, hang glider pilot screaming obscenities after a powered aircraft or glider passes too close, etc)... having one more way to avoid a collision has to be a good thing, IMHO. Anyway - we all do the best we can. And if we keep looking out for (and looking after) each other, hopefully we can continue to minimise the chances of such collisions overall. Last thought I have here is that I reckon it'd be great if CASA (via the GFA?) was asked about the notion of allocating a generic transponder code for transponder-equipped gliders to use instead of 1200. That would help ATC to be sure that what they are seeing is a glider, and hence would help them to inform other traffic more usefully about the likely tracking characteristics of a glider they may wish to alert other traffic about. Regards, Simon On 20/04/2012, at 1:37 PM, Tim Shirley wrote: Hi all, It's not quite right to suggest that it is only glider pilots who need training. A recent radio exchange at Benalla went something like this: Cessna XXX 10 miles SE Benalla maintaining 4500 ft overflying for Mangalore Cessna XXX glider YYY, be aware there are approximately 6 gliders operating in the vicinity of the airfield up to 6000ft YYY this is XXX, please give locations of all gliders XXX, gliders may be operating at any location within 10 miles of the airfield and altitude up to cloudbase. Please keep a good lookout. YYY, there should be a NOTAM out for that XXX, this is YYY, the ERSA entry for Benalla states that glider operations may be carried out during daylight hours on any day As I have commented before on this forum, the operational characteristics of gliders makes information provided by radio far less useful in a predictive sense than the same information given by a powered aircraft because gliders don't fly precise tracks or maintain constant altitudes. This is no one's fault, and it won't be fixed simply by more frequent, more detailed or more correct transmissions. I have a simple rule for the radio. I listen as much as possible and I talk as little as I can get away with while still complying with all reasonable rules. Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare On 20/04/2012 10:17, Mark Newton wrote: On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:31:21AM +1000, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote:
Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...
All of this is a matter of conditioning for the horses. I used to take my horse gliding. Not kidding. He was great for clearing the sheep off the runway. He would stand at the launch point and watch the gliders launch and land.Then again, this horse lived in a paddock at North Glenelg alongside the main runway at Adelaide Airport. So gliders - pfffttt he'd seen bigger. Seriously though as a horse person as well as a glider person it annoys me that many horse people don't take the time to properly train and condition their horses to anything and spend their lives creeping around their horses in case something sets them off. Better to make the horse braver and smarter. See www.parellinaturalhorsetraining.com . Pat Parelli is a really nice guy and very sensible - and I owe him a flight in a glider. _Cath On 26/03/2012, at 12:06 PM, Ron Fox wrote: Location, location - The Dublin Gliding Club is over the fence from the Irish National Equestrian Center. The club enforced a rule of never overflying the Equestrian Center if there was an event on and not to use airbrakes in the vicinity of horses. Made for interesting approaches when it was a southerly. Ron On 26/03/2012, at 11:16 AM, DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com wrote: Horsies and their owners are a real problem for outlandings. Around the Mt Tambourine area in QLD, you are warned never ever to land in anything other than a designated outlanding area. In the UK they suggest that if a paddock has horses in it and the next best option is flying into the side of a mountain, that you take the mountain option since there's a good chance that you or your heirs won't be able to afford the alternative. Overflying is another issue altogether. Surely, if you are flying at a legal height (whatever that might be), there is little that the horsie or owner can do about it? Isn't there some figure of 300' AGL somewhere? Back in the early days of trikes and ultralights, we were limited to something less than 300' which meant flying at something like 9 most of the time which was briefly fun from the cockpit side but humans and stock didn't like it at all. In fact I have been roundly told off by a horse owner (sister) for just rigging my glider within sight of a horse in case it spooked them. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders
I'm in Singapore on my way back from Germany on a gliding related trip. I spoke to people there about the issue and while I don't know if it's a general impression, people i met were not happy with the DG fee and and felt that those that paid it did not get value for money or good service. Some of them said that on multiple occasions parts were not available and would either have to be made by DG or the drawings were offered so the aircraft owner could have them made. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 19/03/2012, at 6:58 AM, John Trezise tre...@ozemail.com.aumailto:tre...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Looks like this issue is still on the boil. Apparently the legality has been challenged with DG threatening to withdraw all support if it all becomes too hard. One change to note though is that if you now buy an old LS or DG glider, you will not be liable for back payments of the license fee ... only for the current year fee. This was going to be an issue in the future if you purchased a glider which had not been subscribing (for example, under the old rules if you purchased one this year, you would be up for three years license fees if fees had not been paid by the previous owner ... at around Eu250 per year (less if you do it through Tom)). Probably the next stage would be to limit the retrospective cost to owners who have avoided paying up to now as it would be great if ever owner was on board. Personally I think it is a great insurance policy and the work which has been done on flight and maintenance manuals, and the response to engineering queries I have had has been great. The list of spares available has also been growing. Hopefully, this will continue so that everyone sees they are continuing to get value for money. I did subscribe to the LS forum, but all of the issues raised could have been easily sorted by “expert” advice by the factory. John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding books for sale
Hi Jim. I'm interested in the Welsh and Irving book if still available since I lost my copy years ago. I'm back in the country tomorrow Cath Sent from my iPhone On 19/03/2012, at 2:39 PM, Jim Hackett jim.hacke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys: I have the following gliding books for sale. When making an offer, include something for postage (and tell me if you are not in Oz). Postage will be in a safe packet from Cairns. Books 2 and 3 below look a bit old but are fine. With dust jackets. Thanks. Jim Hackett. The Cloudspotter's Guide by Gavin Pretor-Pinney Meteorology for Glider Pilots (third international ed.) by CE Wallington New Soaring Pilot by Welch and Irving Streckensegelflug (in German; this means 'Cross-Country Soaring') by Helmut Reichmann Sailplanes 1965-2006 by Martin Simons Advanced Soaring Made Easy (first ed.) by Bernard Eckey Advanced Soaring Made Easy (second ed.) by Bernard Eckey Cheers. Jim. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ouch
We shouldn't assume just because an OLC trace is inside airspace that a pilot doesn't have clearance to be there. I have called up on a good day and got a higher clearance and have been cleared back to gawler through military airspace over the years. If someone saw my traces though they might think there was an infringement. I think calling for clearances is a good thing. Reminds them that we exist too and I've had some very helpful controllers asking if I had final glide yet :) Cath Sent from my iPhone On 26/02/2012, at 4:48 PM, Mal Bruce m...@mals.net wrote: One is now the Schempp agent and NSW Head Coach ROSS http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightinfo.html?flightId=-765129854 and the one flying in restricted military airspace ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] CPL exams
I've only done aerodynamics, meteorology, human factors and aircraft general knowledge. Dreading air law Cath. Sent from my iPhone On 28/12/2011, at 10:21 PM, Roger Browne oz...@bigpond.net.aumailto:oz...@bigpond.net.au wrote: I found Performance and Flight Planning the most difficult because of the time limits. Regards, Roger Browne From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce Sent: 28 December 2011 9:48 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] CPL exams Can anyone that has done there CPL rely back in their opinion easiest to hardest * CPL Navigation (CNAV) * CPL Meteorology (CMET) * CPL Human Factors (CHUF) * CPL Flight Rules Air Law (CLWA) * CPL Aerodynamics (CADA) * CPL Aircraft General Knowledge (CSYA) * CPL Operation, Performance Flight Planning (CFPA) Thanks Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182P tug
Tim Laider's 182 had a hook and he towed with it. I think it was done on an STC. Tims details can be found here http://www.riverlandflighttraining.bounce.com.au/about-the-cfi/4540511304 Cath Sent from my iPhone On 24/10/2011, at 8:49 AM, Pam Kurstjens p...@kurstjens.commailto:p...@kurstjens.com wrote: We plan to use a Cessna 182P for towing. Does anyone out there have a Cessna 182P already towing and if so, could they help us with info on approvals, P-charts and flight manual supplements? If we can obtain figures already issued by CASA or an engineering firm it will save us time and money. P-charts for a Cessna 182 of lower engine performance would also be helpful, as we could say the performance will be at least as good. CASA used to issue these approvals, P-charts and supplements, but these days the work is done by private firms. I have been in touch with AutoAvia of Bankstown and their advice is to see what info we can find from similar A/C already towing. Many thanks Pam Kurstjens 04 2989 8872 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Coaching Events
Hi All Just a reminder that tonight (17th) is the last of the SAGA winter lectures for this year. Andrew Horton will talk about care and feeding of Parachutes. Usual time and place (Adelaide Uni Gate 5 Frome Rd) Also the G Dale coaching event has been moved from Waikerie to Gawler Coaching places with G look to be full but there are still places in other two seaters. Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Winter lectures this week
Hi all Reminder that the saga winter lectures this week are Monday. 19th. Bernard Eckey. Outlanding. This is essential for all aspiring XC pilots this summer and a great refresher for the rest of us Tuesday. 20th. Redmond Quinn. DI course part 1. As usual meet at Gate 5 Frome Road at 7:20 for access to the building. Congratulations to all who achieved Official Observers ratings last week and thanks to Mandy for presenting the course and assessment. Please ensure this email reaches those in your clubs who are not subscribed to the above lists Thanks. (I'm going flying now) Cath Sent from my iPhone ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] our magazine
I'm really disappointed with the $30 fee. Might be great for Aerotow clubs charging AEFs off the street at $150-$200 a flight.For a club that charges $6 launch and can do 5 min circuits if there is no lift and an AEF visitor generally only manages 2-3 flights. This means they pay more to GFA than we make for the flight! We try to convert ours to members so they are not expensive flights. I know the AAFC are also very upset with the rise (they are affected too). Especially because they have other insurance cover. So what does this AEF fee actually give them? I believe Scouts are not happy either. What can we do? Must be some way to get the message across. (Go the Kooka's JR - mines been flying lots of kids - including passenger rated kids flying their friends. they don't seem to mind that its not new. They still teach spins pretty well). -Cath On 07/09/2011, at 9:13 PM, Grant Davies wrote: Agree the now $30 AEF fee is ridiculous. I have only been flying 4 years and when I started students were $5. Is there any explanation for this massive rise? Or is it our GFA looking after our GFA, not the members and clubs? ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Vario
Hi All I'm looking for a cheap, working mechanical vario to replace the one that died in my Kookaburra. While it is possible to thermal without one, it would be nicer and more reliable for the students (and for me) if we had one. Besides, the instrument panel is a little bare with just the ASI and Alt. Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators
Hi Grant If you find out I'm interested. Macca suggested i send my winter with a broken bottom pivot back to Germany but I was looking first to see if I can buy a cheap one locally to replace it. Parafield Instruments couldn't fix it. Shame - its a nice one with a log scale. -Cath On 06/09/2011, at 9:30 AM, Grant Davies wrote: Anyone know where I can get a Winter Vario looked at, maybe Sydney? Tried someone in Brisbane but not confident. Would love to buy one of your B700's Mike but funds are a bit low. Also as I have a twin not sure how they go together. Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 9:24 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators I for one only have people going from large to small. Actually people buying Altair are my best Winter customers in the last 3 years as they make room in the panel and can easily add $1500 to the cost of Altair package - something that is not often thought about!! There are issues with 57mm 1 or 1 1/2 rev ASIs where flaps are involved - I do remember Bruce Taylor in ASW22BE asked his face not have all the white flap mark crap numbers as it was cluttering the face and I would agree on this one. Ian McPhee 0428847642 . . On 5 September 2011 19:40, Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.commailto:resand...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, anybody out there want to swap two normal sized ASI for two small ones?? Ron Sanders ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Vario
Hi John Yes I got it thanks I'm trying to decide whether to send the broken winter to Germany for repair or buy a cheap second hand one. I've asked winter for a quote to repair and I though I'd see what else was out there. Will make a decision soon Thanks Cath Sent from my iPhone On 06/09/2011, at 2:09 PM, John Orton johno...@gmail.commailto:johno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cathy, I sent a message of list about a 80mm PZL vario that I have, not sure if you got it. Regards, John Orton On 5 September 2011 21:13, Catherine Conway mailto:con...@agile.com.aucon...@agile.com.aumailto:con...@agile.com.au wrote: Hi All I'm looking for a cheap, working mechanical vario to replace the one that died in my Kookaburra. While it is possible to thermal without one, it would be nicer and more reliable for the students (and for me) if we had one. Besides, the instrument panel is a little bare with just the ASI and Alt. Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators
Hi Mike Thanks but no electrical system in the kooka (unless you count my handheld icom) _Cath On 06/09/2011, at 11:30 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 10:15 AM 6/09/2011, you wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_741FE0F31EB34268BA51200F639C2494agilecomau_ Hi Grant If you find out I'm interested. Macca suggested i send my winter with a broken bottom pivot back to Germany but I was looking first to see if I can buy a cheap one locally to replace it. Parafield Instruments couldn't fix it. Shame - its a nice one with a log scale. -Cath If you like the log scale Winter take a good look at the B700. This started as request from a young Dutch pilot. Lots more useful than a Winter. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Fwd: [Saga-coach] SAGA Winter Lecture this week
Begin forwarded message: From: Catherine Conway con...@agile.com.aumailto:con...@agile.com.au Date: 18 July 2011 10:42:23 PM ACST To: SAGA Coaches saga-co...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:saga-co...@lists.internode.on.net, AUGC People augc-peo...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:augc-peo...@lists.internode.on.net, Andrew Horton gliderpi...@ozemail.com.aumailto:gliderpi...@ozemail.com.au, Wgcchat wgcc...@lists.riverland.net.aumailto:wgcc...@lists.riverland.net.au Cc: Anne Philcox anne.phil...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:anne.phil...@adelaide.edu.au, Graham Parker grparke...@gmail.commailto:grparke...@gmail.com Subject: [Saga-coach] SAGA Winter Lecture this week Hi All Reminder that there is a lecture this Wednesday night (20th July) Graham Parker will bespeaking on Oxygen Use - Physiology and Hypoxia on the 20th July. Usual meeting time and place Thanks Cath ___ Saga-coach mailing list saga-co...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:saga-co...@lists.internode.on.net http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/saga-coach ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD
I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer? -Cath On 08/07/2011, at 4:13 PM, p...@kurstjens.com wrote: QLD Trailer Rules June_2011.pdf___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD
OK so can't tow the kooka trailer or the nimbus trailer to qld. On 08/07/2011, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote: BTW it appears you cannot use the exemptions to tow a glider in a trailer if the glider has a motor as it is not defined as a glider :-( I was warned before I ... :-) - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD Just looking at the document. I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats. My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is now illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home. There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with the NSW single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago. I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed by the uniform Aust Road Rules. Did our peak body GFA have any input? AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas Qld. Any more? Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers travelling interstate. - Original Message - From: Catherine Conway con...@agile.com.au To: AUS Soaring aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer? -Cath On 08/07/2011, at 4:13 PM, p...@kurstjens.com wrote: QLD Trailer Rules June_2011.pdf___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] This Month's Winter Lectures (some changes)
Hi All This month we have a bit of a shuffle due to lecturer availability. The BAK Course will continue tomorrow (Tuesday) night as scheduled BUT there will then be a two week break for the school holidays - recommencing on the 26th July. There is be no lecture on Wednesday night due to Sarah's work commitments - this will be rescheduled to August. Instead we will have Graham Parker speaking on Oxygen Use - Physiology and Hypoxia on the 20th July. 25th July is still programmed to be Basic Soaring Theory by Craig Vinall. Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Reminder - Winter Lectures next week
Hi Rob I'm aware of at least 3-4. The power scholarship kids plus a couple of others. Activity is in C1 but I can't see the nominations because it's under 6WG. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 20/06/2011, at 12:11 AM, Robert Moore robc...@adam.com.au wrote: Hi! Do you have any other cadets other than possibly Michael attending the BAK courses? I have suggested it those on scholarships at Gawler but it is to far for them to travel which is a pity. I was not ware it was 1/2 price for cadets. Rob Moore On 19/06/2011, at 7:48 PM, Catherine Conway con...@agile.com.au wrote: Hi All Just a reminder that it's time to brave the cold again next week, Monday (Tomorrow) Night - Redmond Quinn is the next speaker in the basic theory series and will be talking about Aircraft Structures. This is a precursor to the DI course later in the year and well worth attending. Tuesday sees the start of the BAK Course with visiting TAFE/College lecturer Des Moore. This course runs over 7 weeks and includes the exam. Great for Touring Motorglider ratings and a pre-requisite for any power flying. We welcome AAFC cadets to this course as it has now become an official activity for their powered scholarship recipients (and any others interested). Reminder - cost is $100 for the rest of us and $50 for juniors/cadets. See you all at 7:20pm Gate 5 Frome Rd for escorted access Thanks Cath Seminar Map.jpeg ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Visit to Adelaide Airport ATC postponed
Hi All For those that do not already know We had hoped to visit the Adelaide Airport Air traffic control centre tomorrow night but that was unable to be organised with them for this date (it also clashes with the SAGA Airworthiness course). We will advise when we can get a date tied down and email to all. Please forward this message to your club lists. I can only send to two of them :) Apologies for multiple messages for those on multiple lists. -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] SAGA Winter Lectures
Hi All This month sees the start of the SAGA Winter Lecture Series This year we are running three streams: Basic/Advanced and Speciallist. Please find the details of the first activities in each series. All welcome. Please forward these details to others in your clubs. Venue will be the Adelaide University Chemical Engineer Seminar Room unless otherwise advised. All events start at 7:30pm. Basic -- 16 May 2011 Basic Aerodynamics – Anthony Smith (Aeronautical Engineer) Advanced - 11 May 2011 Lookout – Limitations of the Human Eye (Mandy Temple) Specialist Radio Operators Course John Hudson Includes test for issue of rating 17 May 2011 Radio Operators Course Part 1 24 May 2011 Radio Operators Course Part 2/Test 31 May 2011 Proposed Visit to ATC Adelaide Airport For future planning A CASA BAK Course suitable for Touring Motorglider pilots will be held on Tuesday nights 21 June, 28 June, 5 July, then break for school holidays, 26 July, 2 August, 9 August and 16 August (CASA exam). Nominations are now open for this course. Cost is expected to be $100. Minimum numbers required to make it happen so register early Thanks Cath RTO/S SA/NT PastedGraphic-1.pdf Description: PastedGraphic-1.pdf ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring Australia
Hi Anne I have a winter lecture program for saga that I'll send you Cath Sent from my iPhone On 18/04/2011, at 7:05 AM, Anne Elliott anne.ellio...@bigpond.commailto:anne.ellio...@bigpond.com wrote: A reminder that articles for the June edition of Soaring Australia should reach me, mailto:anne.ellio...@bigpond.com anne.ellio...@bigpond.commailto:anne.ellio...@bigpond.com by April 25. This is the final issue of the combined magazine. The magazine will then be published every two months with the first (wholly GFA) edition coming out in August. Regards Anne Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott PO Box 189, Narromine NSW 2821 Australia Phone: +61 2 6889 1229 Keith: Gliding and ultralight instructor; tug pilot Anne: GFA sub-editor, Soaring Australia magazine; Flat Chat News www.soarnarromine.com.auhttp://www.soarnarromine.com.au www.flatchatnews.com.auhttp://www.flatchatnews.com.au www.ourafricansafari.com.auhttp://www.ourafricansafari.com.au www.vintaglidersaustralia.org.auhttp://www.vintaglidersaustralia.org.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
We used to listen to Sony Walkman's while beating up the Lochiel ridge in the 80's to early 90's. Top Gun themes and various classics where the choice (Ride of the Valkyries, 1812, Thus Spake Zarathustra etc) No need to hear thermal gusts - just slalom amongst the hang gliders and avoid the eagles while dogfighting with other gliders in your mighty Bergfalke, Arrow or Boomerang ;). -Cath On 15/04/2011, at 7:10 AM, Frank wrote: Highway to the danger zone does it for me on my Ipod touch, my 7ah battery last about 87.12 minutes full volume and subwoofer connected. Vario turned off that is. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Rope break
I've been in the tug when a visiting pilot had trouble keeping station. Luckily he was flying with an instructor. He was all over the place and eventually broke the weak link! -Cath On 12/04/2011, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote: A pilot (a Professor) was killed on the weekend at Blue Ridge Soaring Virginia USA. The FAA has stated that the tow rope broke and he landed in trees nearby. Having had very few aerotows I was wondering just how common rope breaks are locally. I have heard about 'aerotow upsets' but never a simple rope break. Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Very Cool
reminds me of the kids quadcopter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyDGuc9CX0kplaynext=1list=PLA709DCC71FFA61BB -Cath On 01/04/2011, at 8:10 PM, rolf a. buelter wrote: Not gliding but looks like fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyYujjP5J-kfeature=player_embedded Rolf ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] blaniks
Are they as hard to maintain as blaniks? On 01/03/2011, at 8:55 AM, Justin Couch wrote: Derek Ruddock wrote: We can sell you TWO IS28's for less than that... Joeyglide guys might like a spare :) Hasn't one of the QLD clubs been trying to sell both of theirs for about 12 months now? I been seeing ads in Oz Soaring for them for a long time. -- Justin ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ipad
Cool idea - how do you focus that close? Sent from my iPhone On 09/02/2011, at 8:56 AM, erich wittstock deepb...@gmail.commailto:deepb...@gmail.com wrote: PDA's / iPad's etc are so passé... It's 2011 - this the future: http://www.geekiegadgets.com/2009/maverix-hud-sunglasses-for-your-pda-or-smart-phone/http://www.geekiegadgets.com/2009/maverix-hud-sunglasses-for-your-pda-or-smart-phone/ http://igargoyle.com/archives/2006/07/homemade_video.htmlhttp://igargoyle.com/archives/2006/07/homemade_video.html I know these gadgets are just in the development stages - but so has everything else been before it's been accepted by skeptics. Display everything: 3D Flarm, 3D airspace, 3D beercans, last thermal markers, landable fields and so on... You won't even want to take your eyes away from what's around you. Smart interfaces would limit the information to only the most needed information: What would I need airspeed indication for if I am flying at the correct speed? Best heightband only get's displayed if I am getting close to the lower / upper margins... On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 16:49, Todd Sandercock mailto:todd_soar...@yahoo.com.autodd_soar...@yahoo.com.aumailto:todd_soar...@yahoo.com.au wrote: That's what gliding instruments need!!! From: Scott Penrose mailto:sco...@dd.com.ausco...@dd.com.aumailto:sco...@dd.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netaus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tue, 8 February, 2011 2:04:45 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ipad Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NotK4TVQ-6E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NotK4TVQ-6E It shows a Pixel Qi screen against an iPad in full daylight. Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ipad
I played with mobile seeyou and an oudie recently and liked what I saw. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 08/02/2011, at 11:35 AM, Tim Shirley tshir...@internode.on.netmailto:tshir...@internode.on.net wrote: The best option for glider instrumentation is a properly made gliding instrument. All else is a distraction at best and dangerous at worst. If you think a driver with an iPhone glued to his ear is dangerous, try the guy on the other side of the thermal. Yes, I have seen it done. Leave the bloody things on the ground. Or at least, switched off in your pocket. Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c`è mezzo il mare From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 11:47 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ipad Save your money. I wish I had. There is no way to import waypoints: everything has to be entered manually, thus prone to error. The list of gliders is very old, with no ability to add new ones. Cheers Derek 人生は短いです：一日をつかむ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 8:59 AM To: tom.wilk...@internode.on.netmailto:tom.wilk...@internode.on.net; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ipad Have you seen this? http://appmodo.com/28489/finalglide-1-0-0-2-for-iphone-new-glider-pilot-app/http://appmodo.com/28489/finalglide-1-0-0-2-for-iphone-new-glider-pilot-app/ On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:40 AM, mailto:tom.wilk...@internode.on.nettom.wilk...@internode.on.netmailto:tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: Does this mean that winpilot will work on iphones as well? Like many I fly club gliders and have been wanting an iphone glide calculator for ages, just for the convenience. Tom On Tue 08/02/11 7:42 AM , Graham Holland mailto:gra...@arch.usyd.edu.au gra...@arch.usyd.edu.aumailto:gra...@arch.usyd.edu.au sent: Some soaring software will run on an Ipad, eg Winpilot soon. On of its attractions is all the other things that can be done with it, eg read the newspaper in flight! However the tech specs have a maximum operating temperature of 30 degrees. It often feels hotter than that on the grid, has anyone measured cockpit temperatures in flight? Has anyone tried an Ipad? Graham -- Dr Graham Holland 27 Johnston Crescent Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia e-mail: graha m...@arch.usyd.edu.auphmailto:m...@arch.usyd.edu.auph: 02 9427 3282 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list aus-soar...@lists.internode.on.netTomailto:aus-soar...@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.auhttp://www.spe.com.au/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3428 - Release Date: 02/07/11 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New GFA Executive Officer appointed!
Although some more information would be nice Cath Sent from my iPhone On 03/02/2011, at 5:43 PM, Anne Elliott anne.ellio...@bigpond.commailto:anne.ellio...@bigpond.com wrote: image002.gif Thanks very much John for letting us all know. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netmailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John Welsh Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2011 2:37 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] New GFA Executive Officer appointed! Hi Folks, http://www.gfa.org.au/iMIS15/GFA/News_Content/Executive_Officer.aspxhttp://www.gfa.org.au/iMIS15/GFA/News_Content/Executive_Officer.aspx Good Luck, Simon! John Welsh -- John invites you to visit Beverley Soaring Society at www.beverley-soaring.org.au and the Gliding Federation of Australia web site www.gfa.org.auhttp://www.gfa.org.au/ Newcomers to gliding and soaring are invited to visit www.soaring.com.auhttp://www.soaring.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring inline: image002.gif___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Blurring the lines
Is hang gliding where gliding was in the 20s-30s? http://m-sandlin.info/ -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ridge Run - Long Mynd
Gus is paying Mark Morgan directly -Cath On 22/12/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Hudson wrote: Hi Cath, Thanks, What was the arrangement for the payment of DDH. John -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 4:49 PM To: AUS Soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ridge Run - Long Mynd The Chase Range -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Performance Week and Basic XC Course Waikerie
Hi All Just a reminder that the basic XC Course and Performance Week is running again this summer at Waikerie from 27th December to 1 Jan. Please fill in the form to register to allow us to ensure adequate launching, two seater, coaching/instructor and other facilities are available. http://www.waikerieglidingclub.com.au/coaching/ This year Balaklava have kindly agreed to bring their winch for those not rated or not wishing to aerotow. Andrew Wright will once again run the basic course which is an excellent way to start XC flying and many Silver C's have been achieved at this course. The Uni have again kindly agreed to make their Motorfalke available for outlanding training. There will be a live band and a great party again on New Year's Eve. Hope to see you there. -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Psst... Want to buy shares in a horse drawn Zeppelin? (Warning, might be funny...)
http://www.thegoonshow.co.uk/scripts/wings_over_dagenham.html For those that wonder about the origins of the Horse Drawn Zeppelin reference. -Cath On 15/11/2010, at 12:54 PM, Texler, Michael wrote: Forget working from home to earn big bucks. Forget gliding with all its wing thingies, aerotow, winches, self launches and rubbish. Sick of beige hats and boring old farts who replay IGC files on CU. Impress your friends. Once in a lifetime, your's exclusively offer of no money back guarantee. Shares in HORSE DRAWN ZEPPELIN Absolutely no strings attached (disclaimer, apart from rope attaching horse to Zeppelin, conditions apply). Please provide you name, details, card codes, plus all your money, title deeds. and forward to our friendly Nigerian Office: zeppelins...@scam.nigeria.scam ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Steve Kittel contact
Hi Does anyone have a mobile number for Steve Kittel? The one I have doesnt seem to work Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Steve Kittel contact
Thanks guys All sorted _Cath On 25/10/2010, at 1:30 PM, Robert Moore wrote: Try Kittel Steve 0400 582 284 At 12:41 PM 25/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Does anyone have a mobile number for Steve Kittel? The one I have doesnt seem to work Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Dad and kid sends iPhone and HD camera into space under a weather balloon.
There is a link to the FAA rules on his website so he was aware of them. http://www.brooklynspaceprogram.org/BSP/Space_Balloon.html. No comment on compliance or not. What an incredibly cool thing to do! -Cath On 21/10/2010, at 5:59 PM, Texler, Michael wrote: This story is cool if it is real. Film footage is cool. Apparently a Dad made a camera pod attached to a weather balloon for his 7 year old son in Brooklyn NY. An iPhone was used as a GPS tracker so they could find it after the capsule descended. A HD camera was also present. Apparently reached 100,000' before the balloon burst. Whole flight lasted 90 minutes. Only drifted 30 miles to touch down. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/brooklyn_dad_and_kid_send_ipho.html I wonder if this had the blessing of the relevant authorities or a NOTAM? ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New Website - Can't Find anything !!!
I'm on a mac and just click at the top until a page appears that says site map then I can usually (but not always) find what I want from there. When I couldn't find something I rang the office which is unfortunately a waste of time and their resources. Hope the problems will be fixed soon -Cath On 21/10/2010, at 10:24 AM, Matthew Gage wrote: Dave, it's even worse for us using a mac - we can't access ANYTHING on the new web site - none of the links work (if you can work out what the menu is meant to be because it looks a mess). However, we can access the old one for now, but it hasn't been updated since the new one went live. I was told 5 weeks ago that the problems were fixed, but still no sign of having these made available. you can get at the old site on http://2009.gfa.org.auhttp://2009.gfa.org.au/ - rules are here: http://2009.gfa.org.au/Docs/sport/competition/AustralianNationalsRules.pdf Matt On 21/10/2010, at 10:31 , Dave Shorter wrote: I don’t like criticizing the efforts of people to make improvements, but I must say that the latest website for GFA is absolutely impossible. I can’t find anything I need. Can someone point the way for me – where are the current National Competition Rules? Dave Shorter 11 Lighthouse Crescent Emerald Beach, NSW 2456 email d...@shorter.netmailto:d...@shorter.net Ph 02 6656 1979, Mob 0429 429 539 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netmailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ATT1..txt ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Felt for Tail Dolly?
Usually the specification for such felt which needs to be dense and a bit hard is engineering firm white felt (fwf) Try this place http://www.feltfabricating.com/ Unfortunately it's not cheap Cath Sent from my iPhone On 21/09/2010, at 7:31 PM, Jenny Ganderton jennygander...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi all Does anyone know where you can obtain felt (preferably white) suitable for relining a tail dolly? I think it would need to be about 5mm thick. The original felt has worn very thin. Thanks Jenny ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Sale of.....
How about all that training that continues to occur in C172 and C182 aircraft. And the aerfoil on the brand new ones you can buy today is hardly modern -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Cool video
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Re: [Aus-soaring] pilot license
Glad I got a US one in the early 90's. I've used it in Europe as well as the US Cath Sent from my iPhone On 16/08/2010, at 12:42 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com wrote: If you need an ICAO recognised glider licence you can take one of the cheap flights to NZ, have a bit of a holiday and get one of their CAA ones while there. Just do your homework and break the back of the paperwork before you go. This would seem to be the cheapest way for Australians. Pity we are one of the few places you cannot get a recognised licence. Makes you feel second rate :-( Chris - Original Message - From: emilis prelgauskas emi...@emilis.sa.on.net To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] pilot license To Tom's enquiry about pilot licensing for use o/s my understanding would be that GFA in addition to formalising GPC for the future; would also be able as the 'organisation of record' to certify that the original instructor was trained, endorsed, certified and audited by GFA and therefore did train to the syllabus. If the organisation of record can't do this, firstly what is the point of having the organisation and secondly what are the prospects of the organisation being accepted by CASA in its sport aviation hierarchy transition. Just asking. On 15/08/2010, at 1:44 AM, tom claffey wrote: While conducting an e-mail war with CASA re a licence/letter of qualification to replace SLMG on my ATPL [for the World Comps] the CASA man implied that although he was satisfied that the GPC syllabus satisfied the ICAO licence requirements he could not be certain that I was trained in accordance with the syllabus. As my old instructor has recently died and cannot certify it looks like I may never get one! [I guess 20 000hrs and an ATPL does not help] Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Glider for sale
Hi all Glider for sale - details at http://web.me.com/cath_conway Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Edmund (Jnr) Schneider
Hi All Just a quick note to let those of you who don't already know know that Edmund (Jnr) Schneider passed away. Nigel Baker saw the notice in the Adelaide Advertiser. At the request of a number of people, Emilis contacted Harry and Margaret. As a result, Emilis and I attended the funeral yesterday. Alan Bradley was also there so effectively 3 generations of gliding were there representing the gliding community and showing our respect and appreciation. It was interesting to hear just how much of a craftsmen he was hear some stories of his flying and gliding. Please note Emilis' comments below for those wishing to send messages of sympathy They have also got back to me, advising that messages of sympathy can be sent to his widow Rita Schneider family 6 Margitich St Croydon Park SA 5008 I suggest SAGA President and club secretaries forward such messages on -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New Non Controlled Aerodrome ops
Don't know how many tugs would conform either -Cath On 20/05/2010, at 3:49 PM, Tim Shirley wrote: And by the way, a rule requiring a glider to be established on final at 500 ft could be used as an example in a dictionary definition of the word silly. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Gliding at Camden
Hi guys I'm in the Sydney area (wilton) at a course and have some time off on the weekend. Can anyone send me the contact details for someone from the clubs based at Camden? Thanks Cath Sent from my iPhone ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Towing combination collision
Yes - here is a link to the US news coverage - sent to me by one of my friends who flew with me out of that airfield in a 2-22. Cath, This glider pilot is from Aus. Do you know him by chance?? http://cbs4denver.com/local/Reuben.Bakker.glider.2.1481791.html KCNC http://cbs4denver.com On 13/02/2010, at 11:48 AM, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote: From 10 news last night it appears the hero sailplane pilot is an Australian. - Original Message - From: Brian Wade To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Towing combination collision Those who have been monitoring the email debate following the recent fatal midair collision in the USA will be aware that most of that debate has concentrated on communications and radio frequencies. Some very valid points have been made both for and against the use of dedicated glider frequencies, depending on the location concerned. What seems to have been ignored by most is the fact that inadequate lookout was almost certainly the prime cause of this accident. Poor lookout on the part of ALL pilots concerned, including the glider pilot, who was probably best placed to detect the impending collision and provide appropriate radio warning to the other two. I am sure that everyone is well aware of the importance of maintaining a good all round lookout during aero tow and this accident is a timely reminder of the possible consequences of failing to do just that. Might I therefore suggest that we all critically review our priorities during aero tow and place lookout on par with maintaining station at the very top of the list! Brian Wade From: Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:29 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Towing combination collision After much much speculative reporting there is something accurate. http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=132388catid=339 Comment on the qualities of the media (sigh). Why bother! At least most of us don't believe any initial reporting of anything now, which is good. Telegraph speed patience is still about right :-) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Towing combination in collision
Yeah I heard about this earlier from a friend in Denver who I took flying at that airfield in a 2-22 :( Cath Sent from my iPhone On 07/02/2010, at 12:43 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com wrote: Media rushing for column space in the United States of america (sigh). 5 dead after mid-air collision in Colo. USA Today Five people were killed Saturday in a mid-air collision over Boulder where a plane hit a tow line that was pulling a glider. Former NTSB investigator Greg ... See all stories on this topic Five Die In Cirrus/Towplane Midair AVweb By Paul Bertorelli, Editor-in-Chief Five people reportedly died in a mid-air collision between a Cirrus aircraft and a glider towplane, according to ... See all stories on this topic AP Top News at 6:14 pm EST -Saturday, February 6, 2010 KMPH Fox 26 (AP) - The Federal Aviation Administration says a plane towing a glider and another aircraft collided in Colorado, killing at least two people. ... See all stories on this topic Authorities: 2 planes collide in Colorado; 3 die San Francisco Chronicle By P. SOLOMON BANDA, AP Writer An airplane towing a glider collided with another plane Saturday afternoon in Colorado, sending the aircraft crashing to the ... See all stories on this topic Small plane collides with glider near Boulder airport Denver Post By Kirk Mitchell Boulder County rescue workers are rushing to multiple wreckage scenes following an apparent mid-air collision between aircraft near the ... See all stories on this topic Tip: Use a plus sign (+) to match a term in your query exactly as is. Learn more. Remove this alert. Create another alert. Manage your alerts. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NAIPS for iPhone
I used my iPhone once to file a flight plan on the ground at Cobar. It worked well. Does this mean they now deny you the ability to do that or just say they don't want you to? -Cath On 03/02/2010, at 12:19 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote: Just been to an Airservices safety briefing where NAIPS was demonstrated and there was a message: this site is not for PDA/3G access PeterS Stuart Kerri Ferguson wrote: Guys, For those of you with an iPhone there is a real neat application that allows you NAIPS access on your iPhone SDF E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13400 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format
You may also not be aware that Simon/Internode provides this for free as a service to the gliding community. One of many services provided by Internode. Have a look at the sponsorship for Joeyglide and the Multiclass Nationals. I also dislike web forums - this is much quicker to check and I can do it from my phone without having to use a web page. Be assured that the people who bring you this service are very smart folks - they have been first to market in the country with a number of technologies in this industry. the company is most definitely not stuck in the 20th century. -Cath On 24/11/2009, at 10:35 PM, Bob Dircks wrote: Am I doing it wrong ? ...OR. am I suggesting that the forum finds a supplier of better format ? ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity
Actually I started this thread to show that gliding was getting a bit of publicity from the quote to the media by Simon. I though that was good. I didn't mean to start an electric car argument - sorry Cath Sent from my iPhone On 30/10/2009, at 5:56 PM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 05:07 PM 30/10/2009, you wrote: For the best efficiency as a windmill, the prop needs to have a large diameter and the delta-V (change in velocity along a streamline) needs to be minimised, indicating that a descent at close to minimum-sink speed would be required for maximum energy recovery. Same propellor condition for efficiency as a prop. The airfoil on most props doesn't have much to do with the prop efficiency. It is a second order effect. Most props still use the ClarkY or an even more antique section. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric tugs (was applying skills to another activity)
I was very impressed by this and had the opportunity to drive the retrieve winch in September -Cath On 31/10/2009, at 8:49 AM, Pam Kurstjens wrote: All you need to know: http://www.skylaunchuk.com/ Their winch with retrieve cable can easily launch 30 gliders an hour from a single drum From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net ] On Behalf Of David and Justine Olsen Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2009 6:52 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric tugs (was applying skills to another activity) much^4 On 31 Oct 2009, at 06:39, emilis prelgauskas wrote: On 30/10/2009, at 10:31 PM, Todd Sandercock wrote: Does anyone have any figures on the fuel consumption of a winch?? 1 litre / launch incl. all return drive and associated running around ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity
I'm impressed by the winch/retrieve winch system I saw at Midlands Soaring Club Long Mynd UK. they were LPG powered but elwcric would be cool. 30-40 launches an hour. Quicker and more cost effective than a tug Cath Sent from my iPhone On 30/10/2009, at 7:55 AM, Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au wrote: Mike Borgelt wrote: Somebody really ought to look at electric towplanes too. It might just be the first real practical use for an electric aircraft and the economics compared to an I.C. engined towplane just might even make some sense. I would expect the viability to be significantly improved if regenerative air braking in a steep descent was included by having the propeller spinning the generator. Very rapid descents (decreasing tug turn round) that also return energy to the battery would be possible. -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Men in suits (warning this posting maycontain humour...)
You mean like the Naked Bergfalke Pilot rating ;) On 08/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net wrote: Why not. There have been a number of examples of the opposite, with pilots flying without clothing in the altogether. On Thu 08/10/09 2:51 PM , Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au sent: ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Natfly
Just passing on the comments as I'm being told them On 30/09/2009, at 6:55 PM, Stuart Kerri Ferguson wrote: Cath, I think it is safe to say that the RaAUS guys know what their members want and will not let them down. SDF -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Wednesday, 30 September 2009 12:12 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Natfly I have an RA pilot sitting in my office at the moment. He says at least 1/2 the attendees want to camp and he won't go if he can't. -Cath On 29/09/2009, at 5:09 PM, Stuart Kerri Ferguson wrote: Accommodation is drying up quickly -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Cleaver Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 8:51 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Natfly Yes, but perhaps slightly restricted at Temora! Wombat CFI Temora GC (back in Australia again!) At 21:22 28/09/2009, you wrote: Congrats to Temora who have secured Natfly for the next 3 years. I guess gliding will be back on in Narromine over Easter. Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13360 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13360 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13370 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13380 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Catherine Conway, General Manager Agile Communications 165 Grenfell St., | E-mail: con...@agile.com.au (PO Box 153, Rundle Mall) | Web: http://www.agile.com.au/ ADELAIDE S Aust 5000 | Ph : +61 (0)8 8418 1234 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Natfly
I have an RA pilot sitting in my office at the moment. He says at least 1/2 the attendees want to camp and he won't go if he can't. -Cath On 29/09/2009, at 5:09 PM, Stuart Kerri Ferguson wrote: Accommodation is drying up quickly -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Cleaver Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 8:51 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Natfly Yes, but perhaps slightly restricted at Temora! Wombat CFI Temora GC (back in Australia again!) At 21:22 28/09/2009, you wrote: Congrats to Temora who have secured Natfly for the next 3 years. I guess gliding will be back on in Narromine over Easter. Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13360 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13360 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] any Glide Computer iPhone apps?
Someone has written a logger program called TrackLog You can search for it in App Store. I havent had a chance to try it out yet. -Cath On 09/08/2009, at 5:46 PM, Tom Wilksch wrote: Anyone know of any Glider specific applications that will run on the iPhone? Built in GPS, compass and lovely big touch screen makes me think it could be rather good for it. I did see some discussion about having XCsoar working for the iPhone, but this would take some major work since it is currently designed for the Windows Mobile OS Anyone know of anything else? My 3GS arrives tomorrow :-) Cheers Tom ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tiger and Computing
That was really funny :) They missed the bit where the old multicoloured apple logo could be linked to the pride flag - ;) -Cath (who is writing this message on a mac while my iPhone is updating) On 22/06/2009, at 7:58 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Really? What are the sales stats? Anyway here's a take on MAC users that was referred to on Jerry Pournelle's site. However, these propagandists aren't just targeting the young. Take for example Apple Computers, makers of the popular Macintosh line of computers. The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/ Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an Open Source license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, lickable buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism. But is this really such a shock? Lets look for a moment at Apple Computers. Founded by long haired hippies, this company has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural values2. But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple3 by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness4. This company is well known for its cult-like following. It isn't much of a stretch to say that it is a cult. Consider co-founder and leader Steve Jobs' constant exhortation through advertising (i.e. mind control) that its followers should http://www.apple.com/thinkdifferent/ think different. We have to ask ourselves: think different than whom or what? The disturbing answer is that they want us to think different than our Christian upbringing, to reject all the values that we have been taught and to heed not the message of the Lord Jesus Christ! Given the now obvious anti-Christian and cultish nature of Apple Computers, is it any wonder that they have decided to base their newest operating system on Darwinism? This just reaffirms the position that Darwinism is an inherently anti-Christian philosophy spread through propaganda and subliminal trickery, not a science as its brainwashed followers would have us believe. : Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Vintage Sailplane Video
Get a Mac (sorry couldn't resist) -Cath On 13/06/2009, at 6:12 PM, John Parncutt wrote: Can't get it to play on my windows PC (Vista) either with Quick time or windows media player, anybody got any idea's? John Parncutt ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] pna USB to serial cable
Keyspan adapters are good -Cath On 04/06/2009, at 11:37 AM, DG wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a usb to serial cable so that I can connect the flarm to my IPAQ 312, any information would be welcome. Frank ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Today's Adelaide trace
http://slash.dotat.org/atmos/dynamic/94672/2009012800/atmos.png its already 44! -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] AJGC Terry Towelling hats - your very own!
Cool Just some trivia - did you know I'm responsible for the OFITTH acronym? (Well actually my power instructor is). Years ago when I did my PPL, I had an instructor named Jonathon who was also a hang glider pilot. This meant that the power lesson sometimes got abandoned when there were particularly good thermals ;) At other times there was a lot of rivalry between the two soaring disciplines. Anyway when talking about gliding to him during one flight, his response was Oh you guys are just a bunch of Old Farts in Terry Towelling Hats. I thought it was so funny, I told Emilis and others about it when I got back.. -Cath On 15/11/2008, at 8:00 PM, Gus Stewart wrote: Hi all! As some of you may remember, late last year a group of dedicated junior pilots formed the Australian Junior Gliding Club, with the intention of bringing young pilots from around the country together and promote our sport amongst Australian youth. We are gathering speed quickly, and as a club we now own an L-13 Blanik which has seen action down at last year's JoeyGlide and various other places around the country. Our website is here, please feel free to have a look. We are raising money to fund our club and bring more young people into the sport, and as a result we are selling an iconic piece of Australian gliding garb - the one and only Terry Towelling Hat! The days of the Terry Towelling hat are back, but in strictly limited supply. First in, best dressed (literally!). The Australian Junior Gliding Club is selling these hats to raise funds for the advancement and promotion of Junior Gliding in Australia. They are $25, with $5 postage, and If nothing else, this is a way to directly support the next generation of pilots so that they can bring more into our sport. Wear this one with pride! To order, please follow this link Please note that membership to the club is open to all people of any age. Any non-junior (i.e.26 or over) member that joins up will receive a free Terry Towelling hat as a way of saying thankyou for your support and welcome. Cheers, Gus Stewart Treasurer Australian Junior Gliding Club ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!
I was in an ASH25E which winch launched with the engine running off a short strip in Germany. -Cath On 03/11/2008, at 9:39 PM, Jim Staniforth wrote: Hallooo: On days when the airport was too busy to allow self-launching (Back taxi glider runway, use full length of the power runway. Aerotow start line is mid field of the glider runway and gliders land short of that) I have aerotowed the AS-H26E with the engine running behind a Pawnee. Just use about 5000RPM initially and bring up the power and pull the handle at about 500', putting the tug in a good position to land and tow someone else. This gives backup for a launch failure... Except if the tug loses power on the ground! Had no idea that certification was needed to do that, it just works. The technique has been used with sustainers for a while. Jim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Catherine Conway, | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager Agile Communications | Web: http://www.agile.com.au/ 150 Grenfell St., | Ph : +61 (0)8 8418 1234 ADELAIDE S Aust 5000 | Mob:0429 803 705 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Retention, recruitment and the pPrune thread
How do these stats compare to the US? I was pretty disappointed by the standards over there from the commercial places I visited. And they operate under the regulator. Closer to home - I'm doing my CPL theory at the moment. Interestingly I have far more knowledge and understanding of Aerodynamics than any of the airline pilot wannabes. They may be learning it out of books but they can't see or feel it. I'd like to see a comparison between our stats and those of other gliding nations, and between us and other aviation disciplines. -Cath On 18/10/2008, at 8:01 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 01:00 PM 18/10/2008, you wrote: On 18/10/2008, at 10:29 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 01:12 AM 17/10/2008, you wrote: the GFA's traditional and historic sense of instructor responsibility) - Pity they keep killing and injuring people at the rate they do. Mark, I was replying to Wombat's pompous dismissal of the concerns of some of those on the Prune thread. My comment is based on empirical observation. Check the fatal and serious accidents over the last 5 to 6 years. I've made my suggestions as to what should be done in the past. You can look them up. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
