Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Le 07/06/2010 23:15, Weddington, Eric a écrit : It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux What do you mean by that? I've been working on linux for quite some time now and I'm wondering what the gcc in WinAVR could do better than my avr-gcc installed from the repositories? Typically there is a delay between when WinAVR is released, with the latest patches to nominally recently released versions of the tools, and when the Linux distros pick them up and offer a package for the end user. What I would like to do is to close this delay gap, and eventually offer identical toolchain releases on multiple platforms (e.g. Windows, Mac, and 2 popular Linux distros) at the same time, or nearly the same time. Identical in this case means having a single package that includes the same tools, at the same versions, with the same patch sets. Well, that's the plan at least. :-) That was exactly what I was meaning, getting Linux and Windows releases at the same time or nearly same time, directly as an up to date distro package, instead of having to get WinAVR to get the correct set of patches and then compile yourself for Linux. WinAVR is also the 'reference point': if you think you have encountered a bug with the avr-gcc toolchain, the first thing to do is to check that your Linux environment is similar to what WinAVR provides at that time and only then you know that you may have found a 'real' avr-gcc bug (and usually it was a missing patch). I hope for Eric's plan for a long time...! ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Me: snip As long as it will still be possible to pluck avr-gcc and the associated tools out of the new toolchain and drop them into AVR Studio, I have no worries. Eric: It should be just as easy as it has been, and in the future, it should be even easier. ;-) Stu: Hope springs eternal. :-P ;-) Me Again: Actually, it's so easy now that I have a hard time imagining it being easier. The only tricky thing is that you can't install WinAVR to a path that has a space character in it, such as Program Files, but even that doesn't bite me as I nLite my Windows installations so that programs install to a folder called Programs. Even my customers seem to be able to install AVR Studio and WinAVR to work together without a hitch. Graham. ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Le 07/06/2010 18:13, Graham Davies a écrit : Me Again: Actually, it's so easy now that I have a hard time imagining it being easier. The only tricky thing is that you can't install WinAVR to a path that has a space character in it, such as Program Files, but even that doesn't bite me as I nLite my Windows installations so that programs install to a folder called Programs. Even my customers seem to be able to install AVR Studio and WinAVR to work together without a hitch. It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux, I hope the next tool/organization will also package a WinAVR quality gcc for Linux... Bernard ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
RE: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
-Original Message- From: avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu.org [mailto:avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu. org] On Behalf Of Bernard Fouché Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:04 AM To: avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!? Le 07/06/2010 18:13, Graham Davies a écrit : Me Again: Actually, it's so easy now that I have a hard time imagining it being easier. The only tricky thing is that you can't install WinAVR to a path that has a space character in it, such as Program Files, but even that doesn't bite me as I nLite my Windows installations so that programs install to a folder called Programs. Even my customers seem to be able to install AVR Studio and WinAVR to work together without a hitch. It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux, I hope the next tool/organization will also package a WinAVR quality gcc for Linux... It's in the long term plan... ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Hi, On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 19:03 +0200, Bernard Fouché wrote: It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux What do you mean by that? I've been working on linux for quite some time now and I'm wondering what the gcc in WinAVR could do better than my avr-gcc installed from the repositories? Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
RE: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
-Original Message- From: avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu.org [mailto:avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu. org] On Behalf Of Tobias Schneider Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:04 PM To: avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!? Hi, On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 19:03 +0200, Bernard Fouché wrote: It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux What do you mean by that? I've been working on linux for quite some time now and I'm wondering what the gcc in WinAVR could do better than my avr-gcc installed from the repositories? Typically there is a delay between when WinAVR is released, with the latest patches to nominally recently released versions of the tools, and when the Linux distros pick them up and offer a package for the end user. What I would like to do is to close this delay gap, and eventually offer identical toolchain releases on multiple platforms (e.g. Windows, Mac, and 2 popular Linux distros) at the same time, or nearly the same time. Identical in this case means having a single package that includes the same tools, at the same versions, with the same patch sets. Well, that's the plan at least. :-) ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
On Monday 07 June 2010, Bernard Fouché wrote: It's still tricky to have WinAVR quality on Linux, I hope the next tool/organization will also package a WinAVR quality gcc for Linux... Indeed, for my toolchain builder (usable for Linux, Windows and Mac OS alike) i also use the WinAVR patches. Very convenient, this is great 'artwork'. Ruud ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
RE: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Hi Graham, Don't worry. There will be a replacement toolchain distribution to take up where WinAVR left off, and it will be free (no cost). It should contain all the tools that you've come to expect. Eric Weddington -Original Message- From: avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu.org [mailto:avr-gcc-list-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel@nongnu. org] On Behalf Of Jan Waclawek Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:22 PM To: Graham Davies; avr-gcc-list Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!? http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=viewtopi ct=88210highlight= JW - Original Message --- Where can I find out more about the discontinuation of WinAVR, please? Graham. - Original Message - From: Weddington, Eric eric.wedding...@atmel.com ... not specifically WinAVR because WinAVR has been discontinued ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
Weddington, Eric wrote: Don't worry. There will be a replacement toolchain distribution to take up where WinAVR left off, and it will be free (no cost). It should contain all the tools that you've come to expect. Yeah, I figured that from reading the AvrFreaks thread. It seems odd that news of the demise of WinAVR should escape before news of its replacement, but that sort of thing happens. Basically, I just need to know what to say to any of my customers that gets wind of this. As long as it will still be possible to pluck avr-gcc and the associated tools out of the new toolchain and drop them into AVR Studio, I have no worries. Graham. ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
Re: [avr-gcc-list] WinAVR discontinued ?!?!?
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=viewtopict=88210highlight= JW - Original Message --- Where can I find out more about the discontinuation of WinAVR, please? Graham. - Original Message - From: Weddington, Eric eric.wedding...@atmel.com ... not specifically WinAVR because WinAVR has been discontinued ___ AVR-GCC-list mailing list AVR-GCC-list@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/avr-gcc-list
