[backstage] data.gov.uk - about time?
http://www.data.gov.uk/ I can certainly say backstage had a hand in making this happen. Cheers, Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-supported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Browser native games that use real-world data was Re: [backstage] data.gov.uk - about time?
Browser native games that use real-world data** Strangely just in the process of writing to you and Jonathan Hassell... Has the BBC any product or plans to create online games or visualisations that use data.gov.uk data or other real-world data**? if they are not Flash based, that would be of particular interest. wondering whether the BBC has completely dropped JAM type initiatives, and if using SVG rather than Flash might help salve the educational business interest issue. ie open source CC licence allowing commercial use perhaps. from across the pond: The MacArthur Foundation launched its five-year, $50 million digital media and learning initiative in 2006 to help determine how digital technologies are changing the way young people learn, play, socialize, and participate in civic life. and in particular Gamestar Mechanic is a game designed to teach young people about game design, with the emphasis on design, not programming. The goal is to help young people—gamers and nongamers—learn what it is like to think about design and to think like a designer. http://www.gameslearningsociety.org/macarthur.php and http://gamesforchange.org/ regards Jonathan Chetwynd **writing a chapter Browser native games that use real-world data for Business, Technological and Social Dimensions of Computer Games: Multidisciplinary Developments SVG was not designed for this, but read on On 21 Jan 2010, at 11:03, Ian Forrester wrote: http://www.data.gov.uk/ I can certainly say backstage had a hand in making this happen. Cheers, Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
This has been around for a while. Albeit in beta. Just waiting for browsers to catch up... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-supported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Yep I was going to say Tim you've been too busy with your head in Slashdot. http://blog.dailymotion.com/2009/05/27/watch-videowithout-flash/ also - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/rad/2009/08/html5.html Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Barry Carlyon Sent: 21 January 2010 11:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support This has been around for a while. Albeit in beta. Just waiting for browsers to catch up... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-supported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
This is still the coolest HTML5 video demo I have seen, even though it was made a couple of years ago... it works in FF 3.5+, and I think Chrome and Safari now: http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xh tml It does live featrue detection of the video stream using Javascript, and then rotates, resizes and maps another object (video, image, custom text, or even a little javascript pong animation) into the video, in real time! The best thing is that you can just view source to see the javascript used to make the magic happen...! Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Barry Carlyon Sent: 21 January 2010 11:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support This has been around for a while. Albeit in beta. Just waiting for browsers to catch up... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-sup ported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Brendan Quinn wrote: This is still the coolest HTML5 video demo I have seen, even though it was made a couple of years ago... it works in FF 3.5+, and I think Chrome and Safari now: http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml That is pretty awesome. http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
If people are working to do away with flash. Surely like gordon we are going to get decent video on the iPhone without flash? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brendan Quinn wrote: This is still the coolest HTML5 video demo I have seen, even though it was made a couple of years ago... it works in FF 3.5+, and I think Chrome and Safari now: http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml That is pretty awesome. http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Looks like I'm going to have to get a new flash blocker... On 21/01/2010 12:37, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brendan Quinn wrote: This is still the coolest HTML5 video demo I have seen, even though it was made a couple of years ago... it works in FF 3.5+, and I think Chrome and Safari now: http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml That is pretty awesome. http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml didn't work for me in Safari, http://my.opera.com/MacDev_ed/blog/2007/11/21/svg-at-the-movies-take-two is an Opera version, also from a few years ago, rotating, zooming video etc... iirc both URLs rely on SVG for the video, rather than HTML5 as it were... regards Jonathan Chetwynd
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
The second one obviously depends on SVG (the name is a bit of a giveaway :-) but from looking at the source of the mozilla demo, the only SVG is the rendering of the circle and triangle to make the play button. Shame that it didn't work in Safari... I suppose one thing Flash has in its favour is that it works across all common browsers... :-/ Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd Sent: 21 January 2010 14:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xh tml didn't work for me in Safari, http://my.opera.com/MacDev_ed/blog/2007/11/21/svg-at-the-movies-take-two is an Opera version, also from a few years ago, rotating, zooming video etc... iirc both URLs rely on SVG for the video, rather than HTML5 as it were... regards Jonathan Chetwynd
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Have they actually finished writing the HTML5 Spec yet? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Brendan Quinn brendan.qu...@bbc.co.ukwrote: The second one obviously depends on SVG (the name is a bit of a giveaway :-) but from looking at the source of the mozilla demo, the only SVG is the rendering of the circle and triangle to make the play button. Shame that it didn't work in Safari... I suppose one thing Flash has in its favour is that it works across all common browsers... :-/ Brendan. -- *From:* owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Chetwynd *Sent:* 21 January 2010 14:02 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml didn't work for me in Safari, http://my.opera.com/MacDev_ed/blog/2007/11/21/svg-at-the-movies-take-two is an Opera version, also from a few years ago, rotating, zooming video etc... iirc both URLs rely on SVG for the video, rather than HTML5 as it were... regards Jonathan Chetwynd -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Nope HTML 5 working is still on going. I like Brendan Quinn's example because it brings a lot of standard technologies together instead of opting for one monolithic stack. I had a recording which I couldn't release of Antoine Quint of Joost talking at Xtech 07 about their standard stack they used in a compound document way - http://2007.xtech.org/public/schedule/speaker/93 to generate the Joost App. Really interesting this is all now fully working and usable Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Barry Carlyon Sent: 21 January 2010 14:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support Have they actually finished writing the HTML5 Spec yet? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Brendan Quinn brendan.qu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: The second one obviously depends on SVG (the name is a bit of a giveaway :-) but from looking at the source of the mozilla demo, the only SVG is the rendering of the circle and triangle to make the play button. Shame that it didn't work in Safari... I suppose one thing Flash has in its favour is that it works across all common browsers... :-/ Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd Sent: 21 January 2010 14:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml didn't work for me in Safari, http://my.opera.com/MacDev_ed/blog/2007/11/21/svg-at-the-movies-take-two is an Opera version, also from a few years ago, rotating, zooming video etc... iirc both URLs rely on SVG for the video, rather than HTML5 as it were... regards Jonathan Chetwynd -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
I (maybe mistakenly) seem to remeber the original youtube HTML5 test page I saw somewhere supported Firefox 3.5. This youtube page doesn't seem to. Must be that they are using the h.264 codec which I believe Mozilla wouldn't/couldn't put into their browser. - P On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 11:38 +, Tim Dobson wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-supported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
On 21 Jan 2010, at 12:37, Tim Dobson wrote: http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! I love the concept - but wake me up when it's a full implementation of Flash 10. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
yes well Joost + Antoine definitely did use SVG, before they abandoned their plugin and joined flash... they even had a developer-mashup meet I attended... best ~: On 21 Jan 2010, at 15:21, Ian Forrester wrote: http://2007.xtech.org/public/schedule/speaker/93
Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
If you use Chrome Beta, you can use this extension: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/kchoimdlcbapmcdnheaahjcdpdjdpfco 2010/1/21 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 21 Jan 2010, at 12:37, Tim Dobson wrote: http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ (Flash runtime in javascript) seems almost a bit of a let down now having seen that! I love the concept - but wake me up when it's a full implementation of Flash 10. ;-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
Talking of SVG = http://xml.coverpages.org/newsletter/news2010-01-06.html#cite4 Microsoft joins the SVG WG Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd Sent: 21 January 2010 16:55 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support yes well Joost + Antoine definitely did use SVG, before they abandoned their plugin and joined flash... they even had a developer-mashup meet I attended... best ~: On 21 Jan 2010, at 15:21, Ian Forrester wrote: http://2007.xtech.org/public/schedule/speaker/93
