[backstage] Ian
Just read on Twitter that Ian Forrester is unwell - fingers crossed for a speedy recovery. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Andrew Robinson (UK Pirate Party), speaking in Manchester on Thursday
No, it's the People's Front of Judea. On 17 March 2010 11:32, Alex Mace a...@hollytree.co.uk wrote: Is this the Judean People's Front? Alex On 17 Mar 2010, at 11:18, vijay chopra wrote: Just a minor nitpick: It's the Pirate Party UK, not the UK pirate party... /me is a member. /pedant :p regards, Vijay On 17 March 2010 00:37, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Hi there, I've just found out that Andrew Robinson, leader of the UK Pirate Party[1] will be speaking in Manchester on Thursday evening. A graphic designer by trade and a musician in his spare time, Andrew heads up the UK Pirate party - a political party - registered with the electoral register with Reform copyright and patent law as one of it's core aims. He is going to be speaking at the launch event of Manchester Free Culture Society[2], a newly formed group to encourage discussion and debate about free culture and copyright with relation to creative works. - I'm told that the launch night will also feature: John Harris, Director of the ISEI (Institute for Science, Ethics and Innovation)[3] Creative Commons licenced band: I am Ten Ninja[4] A short film by Lawrence Lessig[5] Plus art, music, literature and software etc. -- As I mentioned, the event is this Thursday evening, in the council chambers at at Manchester University Student Union. The event is due to start at 6.30pm and go on until about 8pm. How to Get to the SU (Manchester Academy!): http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=m13+9PR http://www.umsu.manchester.ac.uk/contact_location/steve_biko_building_academy -- On a personal note, I'm not totally convinced that Mr Robinson has got it right, however I think that discussion and public debate about these issues is the only way of coming to a general consensus. Cheers, Tim -- Footnotes: [1] http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/party/about/ [2] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=190893819841 [3] http://www.isei.manchester.ac.uk/about/welcome/ [4] http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Am-Ten-Ninja/114582563775 [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig -- Facebook event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=365903817097 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Video on Demand Dissertation Survey
On 2 March 2010 12:19, Simon Stirrat streetma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I am currently writing my third year dissertation on the subject of video-on-demand services and digital distribution as a whole. I have setup an survey here (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/96QFCMZ), it only has 5 questions so it shouldn't take anymore than 30 seconds to complete. Maybe I'm just being Mr Grumpy, but I always consider it polite when asking people to give up some (even just a little) of their time to help my endeavours, to use appropriate language... I'd be really grateful if..., Thanks in advance etc. Heigh ho, perhaps I'm old-fashioned. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/15 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net: On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:40, Ian Forrester wrote: 2017 right after the Vista upgrade right? I heard a report† that 37.6% of sales of Windows Vista were in fact Siemens stockpiling supplies so that there would still be copies around near the end of the next decade. I'd contest that. 47% were CSC doing the same. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/14 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net: On 14-Dec-2009, at 13:22, Jim Tonge wrote: On 14 Dec 2009, at 12:42, Mo McRoberts wrote: As somebody who still has to “fix” things for IE 6 on a regular basis, all I can say is: no, it definitely isn‘t, and please don’t come back. Just a joke :) Sorry, reading my reply back, it looked deadly serious—wasn’t meant to be: dry humour! The need to support IE6 brings out that kind of reaction in me, too. Hopefully sometime next year all the internal users who bump up IE6's market share in our stats will have migrated to something made this century and we might just be able to start thinking about dropping it Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk: The need to support IE6 brings out that kind of reaction in me, too. Hopefully sometime next year all the internal users who bump up IE6's market share in our stats will have migrated to something made this century and we might just be able to start thinking about dropping it There's no need to support IE6. I don't even consider IE6 backward competibility when I design web sites, nor do I care if people don't like that. You wouldn't win any points round here for that attitude, I'm afraid. There isn't anyone here who *wants* to be supporting IE6, I assure you... -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk: There's no need to support IE6. I don't even consider IE6 backward competibility when I design web sites, nor do I care if people don't like that. You wouldn't win any points round here for that attitude, I'm afraid. There isn't anyone here who *wants* to be supporting IE6, I assure you... Of course :) However imho as long as designers continue to meekly defer to clients and their requests to support completely obsolete browsers, the longer it takes to design a good web site, the more costly it becomes and the more complicated it is to maintain - it's really in nobody's best interests. I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for Health that when he can't use the next release of www.nhs.uk on his office PC. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk: I'll be sure to tell the Secretary of State for Health that when he can't use the next release of www.nhs.uk on his office PC. The DoH's still using IE6?! Along with many other central government departments - yes. For reasons outlined very well by Phil in his last reply. It's your money we spend. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The browser wars, reloaded?
2009/12/14 Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk: Along with many other central government departments - yes. For reasons outlined very well by Phil in his last reply. It's your money we spend. Santa Claus on a motorbike! It's about time some of that money is allocated to a sitewide browser upgrade :( Can't it just be lumped onto the Capita spend for the central database? It seems to have a blank cheque already You're clearly well-versed in the economics of large distributed government IT infrastructures and DH IT projects to boot. Your advice will be highly valued, I'm sure. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] MSIE Marketshare at 4%...
2009/11/30 Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 20:31, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: ...on the PyGoWave website ;-) http://pygowave.net/ More seriously, I thought all you Wave fans might like to hear about this if you didn't already. I'm guessing from the name that it's a Wave server written in python and go, but nothing on the front page tells me what it is, except that it's a very ambitious project. Would be nice if it said what it is on the front page. Yeah. Yet another project that assumes anyone who gets as far as their home page already knows what it's about. Very poor. I clicked five or six times and was still none the wiser. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability
2009/11/20 Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:31 -, you wrote: snip As an example, I think for this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8369764.stm Procter Gamble recalls 120,000 Vicks nasal sprays ...is much clearer than... Thousands of Vicks spray recalled Especially if you don't know what Vicks is. How about PG recall 120,000 Vicks sprays!! or Vicks nasal spray in health alert (that is how PA tell it) or Health worry with PG Vicks Sinex or Nation saved by Vicks recall Or from the Daily Express: Diana: Did she use the lethal nasal spray? -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6-support-goodbye/ Interesting seeing how we still support IE6 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/technical/browser_support.shtml#support_table Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: Large parts of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately. Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community :-( For shame, maybe they'll have to do some real work for once ;) Nah, that would never do. IE6 should die a slow and painful death. Yep. The main reason www.nhs.uk still supports it is because of all the internal users who have it - many of them senior stakeholders for whom the standard argument about obsolescence wouldn't wash. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] You Tube to drop support for IE6
On 15/07/2009, Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 13:22, Peter Bowyer pe...@bowyer.org wrote: of the UK government still use IE6 unfortunately.Especially unfortunate if you happen to be a member of that community If you're in an organization (government or not) that's still mandating IE6 aren't you probably going to be working somewhere where they don't want you watching YouTube anyway? Unfortnately again, that's not necessarily a valid correlation. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC becomes the British Botnet Corporation
2009/3/13 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Steve Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: Not sure I'm convinced - all operating systems have their vulnerabilities; All machines have their *theoretical* vulnerabilities. Only Windows has vast botnets built on them, or any effective malware threats exploiting them in the wild. And a great way to change that is to allow users of other OSs to believe and act as if they're not vulnerable. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC becomes the British Botnet Corporation
2009/3/13 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Peter Bowyer pe...@bowyer.org wrote: 2009/3/13 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Steve Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: Not sure I'm convinced - all operating systems have their vulnerabilities; All machines have their *theoretical* vulnerabilities. Only Windows has vast botnets built on them, or any effective malware threats exploiting them in the wild. And a great way to change that is to allow users of other OSs to believe and act as if they're not vulnerable. If forewarned is forearmed, this applies to knowing which platform is the greater theoretical and practical security risk. It does not justify hiding that information with a false equivalency If you're going to tell a naive computer user one thing, what would it be? I'd say it should be something like 'all computers are vulnerable to security breaches, take suitable precautions'. Discussions about the relative vulnerability of their computer compared with the others on the planet can come later, and shouldn't affect their reaction to the above. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] OT - Mobile Broadband
When these people say 'doesn't work with Mac/Linux', they mean that the auto-install control software on the dongle doesn't work there. My 3 (Huawei) dongle, for example, works better under Linux than it does under Windows - but you have to mangle the settings yourself (trivial under Ubuntu) and you don't get 3's fancy client. Bonus! Dunno about Mac, though, but almost certainly the same. It's just a modem, after all. Peter 2009/1/26 zen16...@zen.co.uk zen16...@zen.co.uk: Many thanks, Fergus Vodafone say their PAYG dongle doesn't work on Macs: This product is not Mac compatible (from their website - and confirmed by the Vodafone store). T-Mobile dongles are Mac happy, but have no coverage at all in Falmouth apparently. 3 are Mac happy, but I'm told the service is patchy at best ... was hoping that someone with some local knowledge might have some experience they could share. I can run XP on the Mac via boot camp or VMWare fusion, but the Vodafone shop say the dongle still won't work with Mac hardware even if I have booted into Windows . this seems strange to me ... would have thought a usb dongle would work with Windows drivers irrespective of being on top of Mac hardware ... wondered, as well, if anybody has a Vodafone dongle and is using it under boot camp/fusion on a Mac. TIA On 25 Jan 2009, at 19:56, Fearghas McKay wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 17:43, zen16...@zen.co.uk zen16...@zen.co.uk wrote: Needs to work on a Mac – MBP. All of the USB dongles should work with a Mac, but you will probably need local knowledge to identify which networks have usable coverage down there. They should all have maps that show network availability. The T-Mobile PAYG lasts 90 days now apparently and the Three one might do - but that may just be you have 90 days to use the voucher and it then lasts for 30 days, which was the scenario. Both of them should sell you a dongle for ~£40 if you shop around. HTH f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] OT - Mobile Broadband
As I mentioned earlier in the thread - I have my 3 dongle working fine under Ubuntu. Actually it's CrunchBase, which is Ubuntu-derived. Peter 2009/1/26 Luf Ball lufoma...@gmail.com: what about mobile broadband product (PAYG) that works with Ubuntu (linux) Thanks L. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Tyson Key tyson@gmail.com wrote: Hi TIA. Not sure about 3's service where you are, but at least for me up in North Yorkshire (in Boroughbridge to be exact), it's rock solid and fast enough to grab a 100MB file in a few hours or so, barring an occasional DNS problem which resolves itself within about 30 minutes-1 hour. I've heard the occasional horror story, but I've never had any fuss with them, for what it's worth. I'm not too familiar with their dongles, although I've never had problems using my unlocked Nokia N70 over USB with Linux to access their service. Your mileage may vary on Mac OS X, though. Just my 2p as a relatively happy prepaid customer of theirs. Tyson. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:32 AM, zen16...@zen.co.uk zen16...@zen.co.uk wrote: Many thanks, Fergus Vodafone say their PAYG dongle doesn't work on Macs: This product is not Mac compatible (from their website - and confirmed by the Vodafone store). T-Mobile dongles are Mac happy, but have no coverage at all in Falmouth apparently. 3 are Mac happy, but I'm told the service is patchy at best ... was hoping that someone with some local knowledge might have some experience they could share. I can run XP on the Mac via boot camp or VMWare fusion, but the Vodafone shop say the dongle still won't work with Mac hardware even if I have booted into Windows . this seems strange to me ... would have thought a usb dongle would work with Windows drivers irrespective of being on top of Mac hardware ... wondered, as well, if anybody has a Vodafone dongle and is using it under boot camp/fusion on a Mac. TIA On 25 Jan 2009, at 19:56, Fearghas McKay wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 17:43, zen16...@zen.co.uk zen16...@zen.co.uk wrote: Needs to work on a Mac – MBP. All of the USB dongles should work with a Mac, but you will probably need local knowledge to identify which networks have usable coverage down there. They should all have maps that show network availability. The T-Mobile PAYG lasts 90 days now apparently and the Three one might do - but that may just be you have 90 days to use the voucher and it then lasts for 30 days, which was the scenario. Both of them should sell you a dongle for ~£40 if you shop around. HTH f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Fight Internet Censorship! http://www.eff.org ~ http://i9.house404.co.uk/ | Twitter/FriendFeed/Skype: vmlemon | +447549728105 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] OT - Mobile Broadband
2009/1/26 Fearghas McKay fm-li...@st-kilda.org: On 26 Jan 2009, at 17:03, Peter Bowyer wrote: As I mentioned earlier in the thread - I have my 3 dongle working fine under Ubuntu. Actually it's CrunchBase, which is Ubuntu-derived. There are several 3 dongles - the E220 works out the box with the Asus EEE distro and Vodaphone have a linux client available that provides drivers if you are using a different distro. You just need to change the APN in the settings from vodaphone's. Ack. Mine worked out of the box with the standard Xandros distro on my EEE, and equally well out-of-the-box when I installed Crunchbase. It knew the hardware and the APN settings for 3 in both cases. Its a Huawei E220. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Excuse the rant....
The guest internet access probably goes over a VPN tunnel to France, though. Peter 2008/12/11 Lee Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You should have no problem at Manchester Holiday Inn Central Park. Their line goes out over their ADSL, you do have to pay for it however but I know its a Zen line. Yes we've all experienced this time to time. I have this at every Holiday Inn hotel I stay at. On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:17 +, Peter Bowyer wrote: iPlayer thinks that the Hilton Hotel, Leeds is outside the UK. Doubtless because Hilton's hotel broadband is provided by 'i-Bahn', which sounds suspiciously German. Good job I have some downloaded video to watch, that's all. /rant (Apologies to those Twitter friends who have enjoyed this rant already) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Excuse the rant....
iPlayer thinks that the Hilton Hotel, Leeds is outside the UK. Doubtless because Hilton's hotel broadband is provided by 'i-Bahn', which sounds suspiciously German. Good job I have some downloaded video to watch, that's all. /rant (Apologies to those Twitter friends who have enjoyed this rant already) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Linguistic discrimination?
2008/12/8 Andy Halsall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 08 December 2008 11:42:24 Brian Butterworth wrote: Interesting point of debate. This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the language of the country that you have a though about. No, the logic seems to be that requiring comments in a language that only a certain demographic of a country speak will illicit responses only from people of that demographic, if, as in this case that demographic also have a moderately uniform political view (as much as that is possible) you have essentailly closed the debate to those outside of a particular political grouping. Of course you've also limited the debate to those who have the capability and the inclination to participate in such a debate on a foreign broadcaster's website, whatever language(s) it's hosted in. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] So Long and Thanks For All The Fish?
2008/11/28 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A little nerdy Friday amusement... I saw an article about Mystery of dolphins' speed solved on BBC News. There was a small error - the measure of force was quoted in kilograms. I wrote a little email ... COMMENTS: Whoever wrote http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7748754.stm must have failed basic science. kg is a measure of mass, but the story uses kg as a measure of force. Force is measured in Newtons (N)! I got a nice email back this morning saying Many thanks for alerting us. This error has now been corrected. So, I went to have a look .. and they have changed kg to the imperial mass measure, lbs, and added of force. lb-force is (was) an imperial measure of force, so they're perhaps half-right. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] So Long and Thanks For All The Fish?
2008/11/28 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/28 Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] lb-force is (was) an imperial measure of force, so they're perhaps half-right. Newtons are m·kg·s-2 Which is distance x mass / time squared , lbs is just mass, unless of force is a magical way of saying distance / time squared? Yes, something like that. I found a somewhat wordy discourse here: http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/weight.htm (search for 'force') -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] So Long and Thanks For All The Fish?
2008/11/28 Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nick Morrott wrote: The Beeb could have used kiloponds as themetric force unit, Kiloponds, eh? Why, that's very nearly a lake. Which brings us back to the fish. I'd say more, but I'd be out of my depth. Angling for a laugh, eh? I certainly won't be taking the bait. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] So Long and Thanks For All The Fish?
2008/11/28 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow this is arcane. We only got taught metric SI units at school... I was taught Imperial units and old money at junior school and SI/decimal later. Made for fun times. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Public Transport APIs
Thanks for this and all the other suggestions. Peter 2008/11/21 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.naptan.org.uk/ +1 It's the Naptan data you need. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Public Transport APIs
Not sure who you're asking - if indeed you have a question.. Nothing to do with me, anyway. Peter 2008/11/22 Terry Parrott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The Daily Snooze Vista Sidebar weather gadget seems to have stopped working, comes back now with service not available, since Thursday ?? Terry Parrott Home: +44-1252-677-866 Mobile: +44-7860-415-407 VOIP: +44-7978-804-898 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bowyer Sent: 22 November 2008 13:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Public Transport APIs Thanks for this and all the other suggestions. Peter 2008/11/21 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.naptan.org.uk/ +1 It's the Naptan data you need. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BNP mashups
2008/11/19 Mark Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I totally agree with this comment. I've Twittered as such also: westpier is thinking we should collectively leave these mashups well alone. They don't deserve our attention or interest Best Mark (@westpier) At the level of 'lets find out who's in the BNP and see what evil we can perpetrate', I completely agree. But as examples of the risks we all face when we entrust our personal data to organisations large and small, they serve as useful examples, and if exposing them to a wider audience serves to increase peoples' awareness of this issue, there's some merit there. The genie is out of the bottle, anyhow. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Public Transport APIs
Doing some research into what feeds/APIs are available from public transport operators and related organisations in the UK - any pointers, anyone? Ta Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Public Transport APIs
2008/11/19 Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Peter Are you, by the way, involved with any of these ideas discussed here http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/2008/07/road-works-api.html and here http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/2008/10/public-transpor.html Nope -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] ping.fm
2008/10/21 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sunday: added 23 social networks to my ping.fm account. Tuesday: http://ping.fm has disappeared! Has it been credit crunched? Is it to return? Or do I need to change 23 passwords? They're having problems with GoDaddy. Definitely not dead. http://tinyurl.com/5bdl3w Follow @pingfm on twitter. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]
2008/9/11 Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm currently trying to ensure that my current client builds suitable safeguards into a similar feature they're proposing to deliver. Well surely it can't take much; something like SELECT * FROM 'active_news_articles' where 'published_date' = date(today)-90days? (I know that's a horrible mangling of SQL syntax, but you get the idea :P ) As far as safeguards go, it can't be that much more difficult at the simplest level to filter out the old stories. Nobody cares whether a really old story is popular or not... because it's old. ;) I'm sure the technical implementation will end up looking very much like that. The hard part is getting the people who write the requirements to understand why they should care Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Lonodon Open Source Jam
Would be great if there were any places left. 2008/9/10 Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London Open Source Jam, on 25/09/2009. Off topic is the new on topic! RSVP by signing up here: http://osjam.appspot.com/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: Old thread, new News... Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]
2008/9/10 David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Who's feeling rather smug) Me too. I'm currently trying to ensure that my current client builds suitable safeguards into a similar feature they're proposing to deliver. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
2008/9/2 Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome! First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed. Agreed - very speedy. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG I love it! -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Soundcloud
On 11/08/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kingswood innovations Freeview Playback Due to launch in 2009 - with this you can record a whole series with one instruction and, if you want to record two programmes that clash, it will find one of the shows on a repeat broadcast and record it instead. Sounds a lot like MythTV to me -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Soundcloud
On 11/08/2008, Jim Tonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds a lot like MythTV to me Great find! Looks like I've got a use for my old Mac and all that spare time I had... Oh yes, Myth will certainly soak up your spare time. So much so you won't have time to watch any of the Terrabytes of TV it records for you. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Wealth of Networks event, next Thursday at Imperial College
On 22/07/2008, Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qik is a closed invite only system so doesn't really allow for participation by those outside the closed loop. s/is/was - Qik is now in public beta. http://qik.com/blog/195/qik-enters-public-beta -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google launches second life killer?
2008/7/10 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.lively.com/html/landing.html I got to say this came out of the blue for me... It's Windows-only. Not that I think that's inherently bad (I'm sure someone will come along shortly and say it is, though), but it does mean I can't use it :-( Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40:58 +0100
2008/7/4 Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/4 simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether it be AIR, gears or whatever is very sensible. Surely the main thing is that a good idea gets built. Surely the main thing is that we preserve our freedom to understand and share the software we use to do our computation. No. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40:58 +0100
2008/7/4 Adam Hatia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wish I could be excluded from this banal tit-for-tat kids game! Unfortunately, the modus operandi of this list allows repeated regurgitation of tired freedom arguments and the religious wars that ensue. Fortunately, on-topic content crops up often enough to stop the whole list being completely swamped and rendered useless for its intended purpose. Just. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:40:58 +0100
Surely not? On 7/4/08, Michael (surely) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008 20:13:07 Dan Brickley wrote: I propose a six-week moratorium on the use of the word 'surely' in this debate. Surely, the way to surley eliminate the use of the word surely, one and surely for all is to (surely) overuse it as surely and to the best of our ability, surely, inorder to surely eliminate it from use, lest one surely, be shown to be of surely weak mind and thought for surely using a word that surely presumes too much about their own position, surely ? Surely best regards, ;) Michael. (surely personal opinion) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)
$DAYJOB hat on - I can help get queries about the NHS Choices data answered. Peter On 02/07/2008, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a competition for mash up ideas using public data. See www.ShowUsABetterway.com Some new government APIsand data dumps too: http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip of Official Notices from the London Gazette. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mashed : Hack Moyles - Audio segmentation with RTMP
2008/6/18 Alia Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So last week there was some discussion on this list about writing an app that let you skip the boring bits of a podcast, and I mentioned that we had some code that would let you do just that. We're making that code, some demo apps and some open source applications available that will let you use mp3 tags to enhance audio with images, chapters and descriptive text. We are also providing enhanced versions of the Chris Moyles podcast for you to play around with. A very useful feature for the Moyles podcast would be a button to press to skip the boring bits between the music... I'll get my coat. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Techcrunch BBC debate
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here already... or maybe I've been asleep... http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/06/12/the-techcrunch-bbc-debate/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Friday humour
An arrogant three legged donkey with one eye playing the piano while wearing shades in the Night Garden? A hoity toity honky tonky plinky plonky winky wonky on the Ninky Nonk. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer?
2008/6/5 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's similar to Virgin Media where one still has to buy the Virgin package to watch iPlayer. (I don't actually have Virgin Media but did notice they had the BBC iPlayer logo in one of their newspaper adverts so I assume Virgin Media has iPlayer, it could have been a coming soon thing though). plug It's live now. And looks good. Just press red on any BBC channel /plug Seconded. Use it all the time. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee Plurk: http://is.gd/pmX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] iPlayer / BT Home Hub
Who was it that was having this problem.. someone here, I'm sure http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/bt_iplayer_homehub_issues.html -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Soundindex
This has to be a target for Backstage http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Freesat
Impressed by the plugs on bbc.co.uk, I headed off to freesat.co.uk to read all about it - shame none of the online retailers linked to from that site actually has any product to sell... Of the 4 links, only Argos actually lists any STBs, but they don't have stock. John Lewis says 'no results were found for freesat, Comet links to a page of Freeview STBs, and a search for 'freesat' on Currys brings up 5 pages of stuff with 'Free' in the name, including Freezers, Freejet hoovers and Freecom network drives. Not a good start. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)
On 16/04/2008, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be the first order of the day - a beanbag for all staff and free beer in the meeting rooms. Last.fm has the ballpit (with webcams) and the BPI has the free beer, I think that's reason enough for the Beeb to implement them both as sensible employee-centric policies. Surely you'd want firemens' poles and slides like Google in Switzerland?? -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Question.. is denuding News 24 of its digits a brilliant idea?
On 15/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saying BBC News doesn't make much sense either as there are lots of BBC News programme transmissions other than News 24 (notwithstanding the fact that so many of the transmissions have more or less the same content, so it doesn't really matter where you've seen it). BBC 24 would (IMO) have been a better bit of branding ... especially as the channel covers more than just raw news stuff. cf 'CBBC' (generic brand for childrens content strand found all over the place) and 'CBBC Channel' (name for channel which carries lots of the above). (I can't believe I just posted in this thread... aarrgghh) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution
On 15/04/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/04/2008, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/04/2008, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this what Akamai are doing for the iPlayer content already? Yes Doesn't get the content close enough to the consumer to solve the issues ISPs apparently have. No - as has been pointed out several times here, it's the last-mile (individual ADSL line) You are saying that the capacity on each individual ADSL line here is the problem? I really don't see that. The STATED problem is PAYING for the PIPES to backbone from BT. If this isn't the problem, then someone is lying. Not capacity of those lines, but the commercial model involved. and second-last-mile (backhaul from DLE to the ISP's network via BT's ATM network) that's the problem. BTW's usage-based-charging model on IPStream makes it jolly expensive for the ISP when the bandwidth utilisation goes up. Their business model is based on an average utilisation which they see as under threat. Ah, back to the BT-behaves-like-a-monopoly-issue. Not really, no. The introduction of usage-based charging on IPStream enabled BTW's resellers to compete on price with the LLU operators and their resellers. The reseller is able to decide their own price points and usage caps in order to differentiate their offering, attract the bit of the market they're interested in, and hopefully still make a profit based on the mix of punters and their usage patterns. The older capacity-based charge simply left them making a fixed and downward-trending margin reselling a simple product. . If suddenly all their punters' usage patterns change for the worse, this screws their business model - hence the outcry about iPlayer. IPStream backhaul is a bit simpler - resellers buy it in bandwidth chunks called 'central pipes' - small ones (STM-1) or large ones (Gig-E). There's no metering as such, but obviously the aggregate bandwidth demands from a reseller's userbase, the more pipes they need to maintain a given level of contention. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)
http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/04/15/who-should-be-the-next-web-guru-of-the-bbc-vote-now/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution
On 14/04/2008, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: 1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a tendency that I know BT has. Abuse of dominant position is prohibited under Section 18 of the Competition Act 1998[1]. If BT are behaving somewhat monopolisticly shouldn't Ofcom do something about it? I believe that the wholesale price of IPStream ADSL is regulated by Ofcom already. Cutting it drastically would kick the legs out from under LLU. As part of its undertakings to Ofcom which led to the split-off of Openreach (and not the enforced sale of the access business or the wholesale business), BT committed to fix IPStream wholesale pricing at its then level until the LLU installed base had reached 1.5M lines. This milestone was passed about a year ago[1], and the price of IPStream is now unregulated. Peter [1] http://www.offta.org.uk/charts.htm -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer in Wii
On 09/04/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case anyone hasn't seen the news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7338344.stm I was interested in this bit: It is only available in the UK to licence-fee payers. Presumably that isn't what Huggers said, and has been journo-ified? Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Support page
Isn't that one of those contradictions in terms, like Welsh Culture and Military Intelligence? On 10/03/2008, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think anyone wants to see live internet operations :) Good suggestion Adam Leach wrote: Just trying to find a support page as i've got a number of errors when accessing the weather page and i've come across this http://www.bbc.co.uk/support/ Shame it isn't a live stream, we could see what the Internet operations are upto. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Adobe fuses on and offline worlds
On 29/02/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the BBC has a duty to educate. The use of proprietary protocols/formats is a direct contradiction to this duty. How can we educate people when we can not even tell them how things work. It is really damaging the future of education and the BBC must not assist with it. Isn't that akin to criticising the BBC for not making sure everyone knows about how its (former) transmitters work? There's obviously a sliding scale, but the message is more important than the medium here. When learning about technology it is useful to to find out how current solutions actually work. With open protocols it is entirely possible to do this, for instance if I want to know how a particular part of IPv6 works I can read an RFC and I will have more knowledge as a result and be able to design better protocols in the future. With proprietary protocols one is prevented from learning how it operates so would need to start from scratch with less knowledge of how the problems have been tackled in the past. But for what proportion of the BBC's audience is this a concern, one that's more important than them being able to easily consume the BBC's output using something that they already have access to, that they're familiar with, and that their kids can fix when it breaks? Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Last.fm for television
On 28/01/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I presume that a TV version of last.fm would be last.uhf? last.am would be more consistent, if slightly confusing. Peter (who hates mixing frequency ranges and modulation types when describing RF transmissions) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 20/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we need a discussion on the pros and cons of the various OSS licenses. Recommend me one! Did you not see the sign next to the button you just pressed? -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 21/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any extensions to this script from me are likely going to be calls to apps importing the rtmp.c written for Gnash. Make sure you observe the Gnash license conditions /me ducks and heads for the coat stand -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC News : site feedback.... [Fwd: RE: Feedback [NewsWatch]]
On 08/01/2008, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to face this kind of question when doing the analysis of search logs at the BBC to produce the popular searches right now list. Obviously I used to filter out obscenities, but, for example, something like 'big brother' or the 'x-factor' would generate a lot of searches on bbc.co.uk, but were not BBC programme - so should the BBC 'censor' what they were showing back to the user as user activity? Personally I would rather the most read/most emailed reflected exactly what the user was doing, and wasn't most emailed stories from the last 7 days excluding the also in the news section because we are the BBC and we want our readers to look very serious all the time That misses the point - a casual reader (and even some regular readers) can be misled by those links pointing to old news. The 'Most Emailed' links are presented under a headline 'Most Popular Stories Now', and next to a section 'Around the world now' (on the page I'm looking at) which implies that the stories are current. It's a fine objective to show real data (although dubious when it reflects 'gaming'), but it must be clear to the reader what the context is of what you're showing. Peter - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software
On 07/12/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Lee wrote: Steve Jolly wrote: To eliminate confusion, I propose that we in future refer to the FSF definition of free as GNU/Free. I thank you. Or you could say 'free software, as defined by the Free Software Foundation', which is more accurate and doesn't fall into the logical trap of everything having a GNU prefix which some people may fall into. You could, but it has the two disadvantages of being longer to type, and not being a joke. :-) Oh I don't know.. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software
On 06/12/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this list, the noise /is/ the signal. You are invited to filter. He was attempting to apply an ingress filter. Which is significanly more effective than n x egress filters. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software
On 06/12/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/12/2007, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was attempting to apply an ingress filter. Which is significanly more effective than n x egress filters. Asking the whole list to filter it's self to one's own preferences seems a little selfish, don't ya think? ;) If they were only mine, certainly. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
Mornington Crescent! (Oh, sorry, wrong game) On 09/11/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Churchill -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 07/11/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every redirect, too. What works on the bench doesn't always work in the field... I would recommend against any method that involved network I/O for Apache. If you have large volumes of redirects that cannot be satisfied with a few simple regular expressions and mod_rewrite the obvious way forward is batch generated (from the DB) apache config files placed in a directory and sourced by the main apache.conf. That wouldn't be very dynamic, would it? You would have to restart the servers everytime you wanted to create a new one! RewriteMap is your friend. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 07/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 07 November 2007 11:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails On 07/11/2007, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, I hope your not using the code below anywhere as it looks wide open to SQL Injection. Of course not. It was simply a response to the rather dumb suggestion of doing it via httpd.conf Don't think anyone made that suggestion at all. Cos to do huge shortcode systems, it would be insane. Depending on volumes and volatility of data, it may be 'insane' to have a database connection, query and teardown for every redirect, too. What works on the bench doesn't always work in the field... Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Use of Tinyurl in Emails
On 06/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However that's not always the case. Turnham Green is actually a hell of a lot closer to Chiswick Park tube station, than Turnham Green tube station. ... and if you get a 27 bus to Turnham Green, it stops at the real Turnham Green, not the tube station - a nightmare for integrated public transport planning :-) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield on iPlayer - 26min Interview
On 31/10/2007, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have yet to recieve an answer to the BBC's false claims, why is this? Possibly because the man who made those claims isn't on this list. And of those BBC folks that are, none is empowered to speak on behalf of their boss^n. Of course, you already know this, and are merely grandstanding. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: When are we going to get another list? (was: RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City)
On 16/08/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Finally, remember that the noise is the signal. You can't post too much. Deploy filters. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html ... which has been taken retrospectively to mean 'post what you like about any subject remotely or even not remotely connected to the BBC'. There are some here who joined to talk about what the list (and the Programme)'s main aims are, not to participate in general-purpose BBC-bashing. Hence I agree that we should separate it out. Peter - Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City
Because it is only intended to make a point, not make a difference. On 13/08/07, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we'll be out there - backstage tshirts on hand, and doing some interviews. But why is it happening outside TVC? I'm sure it's already been said elsewhere but... FMT are in the Broadcast Centre, 1/2 mile up the road? m On 13/8/07 14:33, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Not seen mention of it in her yet, so those those interested in the on-going iPlayer controversy, the Free Software Foundation's Defective By Design campaign is holding a protest outside the BBC Television Center in White City tomorrow at 10:30AM. Read all about it at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/iPlayerProtest And there's also Ian Forrester's http://geekdinner.co.uk/ in the evening with Eric Meyer, with a dinner event instead of just hanging out at the bar. ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Kontiki Backlash
On 30/07/07, James Bridle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The software runs without your knowledge, although you agree to this in the terms and conditions. Splorf! -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Google maps/BBC floods mashup
Just saw this on BBC Berkshire http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2007/07/23/flood_map_feature.shtml -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Ofcom complaint raised
On 02/07/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let the people speak! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/ What a complete waste of time. Just like the huge majority of such things. Let Mr Brown get on with running the country, and let the BBC Trust run the BBC. Please. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] This one's for Cridland... BBC A/V interface ideas
On 29/05/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 May 2007 14:54, Jeremy Stone wrote: not sure we can stretch that to 45 minutes I'm afraid. No dedication some people! You could make a 6 part 1/2 series extolling the virtues of biscuits if you really wanted to. You know you want to ;) If material comes up short, I could discuss the virtues of the canteen's sticky toffee pudding. It would probably be heated. Not too hot, though - and don't forget the custard. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Cridland heads to Beeb
On 03/05/07, Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tbites.com/2007/05/cridland-heads-to-beeb Congrats James! Eeew! We're clearly not worthy! -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] list test and Hack Day
On 01/05/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim Plowright wrote: Dear sweet evil Jesus on a pogo stick, don't start that up again! LOLS Ah, before my time and this is the first time I'd seen this writeup (or any writeup as considered). Refers the honourable gentlemen to archive URL below. Suggests he takes a look. You know, just so he understands what might be under the corner of the rug he's about to pick up. http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ Ah. Guess I'd better not mention ad blocking either then ;) Best not, or you might wake me up :-) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial
On 18/04/07, Nic James Ferrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. Exclusively I can now tell you that the register your interest form is up (16:30). So if your interested in taking part in the trial, go to http://bbc.co.uk/archive now. Euuwww... that was built with some framework wasn't it? It's some off-the-shelf online survey framework - several of the big market research houses use it. Rather a lot of personal information needed for registration, I thought Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me
But Brian - you've assumed in turn that the user community represented by those two figures 6 months apart is the same people. Only then are these hard evidence. What adjustment would need to be made to take account of a change in virginradio's demographic, nature of any promotions running, change in online ad targetting etc? Maybe they ran a campaign aimed at mac users, or on a site whose user figures are heavily skewed towards mac users.. or... or Nothing's as easy as we'd like it to be :-) Peter On 10/04/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the first, great mistake that people make with statistics to believe that everyone else does what they do? Assume makes an ass out of u and me... Can I refer people to this message, just posted which shows a 64% increase in Mac usage (to 2.87%), and a 1% drop in Windows usage (to 96.39%)... Real hard evidence, people! Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 06 April 2007 20:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Browser Stats I'm coming late to this discussion, as always, but if you're interested, here's the information from virginradio.co.uk (sitewide). Visits by operating system in March 2007 (compared with November 2005) Windows: 96.39% (was 97.45%) Macintosh: 2.87% (was 1.75%) Linux: 0.48% (was 0.55%) Unknown: 0.25% (was 0.21%) SunOS: 0.01% (was 0.03%) FreeBSD: 34 visits OS/2: 5 visits OpenBSD 1 visit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Northrop Sent: 10 April 2007 12:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] OS choice Jason Cartwright wrote: I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. Sorry, but Me too. Almost exactly the same story. On a Mac Mini though, so it's a bit slow! -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 09/04/2007 22:59 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 09/04/2007 22:59 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
On 03/04/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I just joined the list to find out about the xmltv feed :) When I got a couple of emails I found the link to the archives. The last message about this seems to be on the 29th when the site came back on air. However, as people probably realise the data isn't being updated anymore. Does anyone have a clue? No more than you I guess - my cluefulness extended as far as emailing the 'contact us' address on www.radiotimes.com, but no response as yet. I wonder if any of the BBC staffers around here know someone to ask? Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Browser Stats
On 31/03/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then maybe there is something to your conspiracy theory. Seem as the BBC's stats disagree with the BBC news articles. Something is not quite right wouldn't you agree? Either: 1. Browser stats are inaccurate 2. BBC news article is wrong 3. The BBC is attracting less of the Linux users to it's site (something that should be looked at seriously as this could be an indication the BBC is interfering with commercial markets). Pick one. (or add another). 4. Only you care enough to waste time with this argument? -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Browser Stats
On 31/03/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/03/07, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/03/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then maybe there is something to your conspiracy theory. Seem as the BBC's stats disagree with the BBC news articles. Something is not quite right wouldn't you agree? Either: 1. Browser stats are inaccurate 2. BBC news article is wrong 3. The BBC is attracting less of the Linux users to it's site (something that should be looked at seriously as this could be an indication the BBC is interfering with commercial markets). Pick one. (or add another). 4. Only you care enough to waste time with this argument? 5. I like using redundant and grammatically incorrect question marks? You can always tell when a discussion has come to its logical end - someone resorts to criticising spelling or grammar. plonk -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
On 30/03/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bleb.org/tv is something I use quite often (when I don't have my laptop with Digiguide to hand on it) but unfortunately they can't show ITV listings due to legal reasons at the mo - believe a solution is being sought at the moment. Still, VERY handy site. And who watches ITV anyway. ;) For original crime drama - can't be beaten. Mobile... Cold Blood... Prime Suspect... c'mon. The RT xmltv feed appears to be back online now, by the way. Mythtv users of the UK breathe a collective sigh of relief. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mobile tech fun, anyone?
On 20/03/07, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 01:29 +, Adam Leach wrote: The best option is Asterisk (http://asterisk.org/) as it can do the following: * It can record phone calls. Depending on the complexity the standard voicemail system might be perfect as this is designed to record messages and then email them to the specified email address. * Allows creation of automated menu systems * Detects caller-id and this can be recorded in database. * Allows the user of variety of VoIP Services, so you can have a local number for free (ie - sipgate.co.uk) or use a community service like http://voipuser.co.uk. * Its open source and works without problems on most unix/linux/bsd based operating systems, so would work fine with gammu or gnokii Asterisk can also send and receive SMS messages on a landline. and easily integrate with APIs from SMS consolidators (2sms, csl, Bayham, Clickatell etc). Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Fwd: New Sports/TV API (find upsets, no hitters through 7, etc.)
Thought this might interest folks here - it's a US site covering North American sport, but the concept is interesting. Peter -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12-Mar-2007 16:26 Subject: [mythtv-users] New Sports/TV API (find upsets, no hitters through 7, etc.) To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Hey folks, my name is Mark and I'm running a site that Myth sports fans might find really interesting. I'm writing you folks because a plugin powered by our API would enable some really interesting functionality like: - Automatically start recording any game on my TV that goes into double overtime - Game score and time left directly in the program guide - Get alerts when an exciting game is happening on another channel The site is called areyouwatchingthis.com, and at its core is an engine that scours a sports feed hunting for the next instant classic in the making. By analyzing the score, the sport, the teams involved, and a bunch of other variables, it can rate a game and let you know if it's worth watching or not. In essence, it'll make sure you're not the loser at work the next day that missed the triple OT buzzer-beater cause you were doing laundry or something equally as lame. And best of all the XML-based API interaction is dead simple--you pass in a callsign (ESPN, SPEED, WCBS), and it passes back the game currently on that channel, the score, headline for the game preview news story, and among other things, a rating of how exciting the game is. I think for sports fans and non-sports fans alike, having a quick way to see if a game is really exciting or a complete blowout, would be really useful. The API is complete and powering items like a Firefox Addon and other widgets (areyouwatchingthis.com/widgets), but the API isn't released yet because I'm tweaking it as I come up with new features, and I'm willing to continue to add to it if it will make the integration with MythTV tighter. If anyone is interested, let me know and I can send you more information. Thanks much, Mark Phillip RUWT? areyouwatchingthis.com -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Percentage of License fee going towards DRM?
On 27/02/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all my personal point of view. I can't receive digital TV, so I'd like a refund on money spent to make BBC3 and BBC4. Oh, and I can't read welsh so could TV Licencing please send me a cheque for the money spend on http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/ And I don't watch football, so I don't want to fund the Premiership highlights contract, please. I suspect we'll all find that it doesn't work that way. Thank goodness. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Percentage of License fee going towards DRM?
On 27/02/07, Jim Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being fairly new to the list I can only imagine that this DRM thing has dragged on a bit for some of the older members, but I would remind everyone that it's pretty much universally agreed that this is the biggest mistake the BBC have ever made - so it's not like it isn't worth discussing at length. Since you seem to have shown up here with the matter resolved along with the rest of your 'universe', I'd say that shows there's absolutely no value in re-hashing the same discussions over again. How about this for an idea- go read the list archives, and if there's anything new to say that hasn't already been said ad nauseam, come back and say it. While you're doing that, the rest of us can get on with using this list for what it was put here for. In case you hadn't noticed, this isn't the 'Bash the BBC' list. Peter (who has no connection with any broadcast organisation, but lots of interest in backstage) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ad Blocking (was: HD-DVD how DRM was defeated)
On 26/02/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/02/07, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/02/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/02/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, however if you are using other people's server juice and bandwidth then you should pay for it on their terms. Not a big ask. If the banner or whatever payment terms they have annoys you, then don't go back. If you don't want me to look at your site, on my terms, don't put it on a public network; otherwise I'll do what I like with what you serve me, including not taking content (aka adverts)on my PC Perhaps you'd care to publish a list of the IP addresses you're likely to use a web site from, in order that the owners can comply with your requirements, then. I'd be glad too, for one. -- Peter Bowyer What's that supposed to mean? You're either publishing your content (in whatever format) on a public network or not. I completely disagree. The ToU of my website could preclude its use in the way you're proposing. I can take proportionate steps to enforce my ToU - which in this case could include preventing your proposed use. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ad Blocking (was: HD-DVD how DRM was defeated)
On 26/02/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/02/07, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completely disagree. The ToU of my website could preclude its use in the way you're proposing. I can take proportionate steps to enforce my ToU - which in this case could include preventing your proposed use. So you think the ToU of a website could legitimately say if you want to view this site you must view it all? Because that's what it sounds like (after all my proposed use is just not using some of it at all), and without taking control of my eyeballs I don't see how that's possible.Even when on the web away from my home PC, and thus expose to adverts, I take no notice of them and just scroll past them, what would any ToU have to say about that, or would you say to view this site you must view the advertisements? In which case how would you enforce it? Of course it's not 100% enforceable, and the cost of enforcing the edge cases would be too great. But my point is that you don't have the right you seem to be claiming to use my (theoretcial) website's content in any way you choose - I have the right to restrict your use by ToU, and to take technical steps to enforce that ToU if I choose. Ad blocking by a small minority isn't a problem, but as has already been pointed out here, as it increases, it starts to affect the commercials of the site owner. A large site, as you've correctly pointed out, has other forms of revenue, monitors the effectiveness of all such forms constantly, and is able to shift its focus as and when it needs to. But it's the smaller site which relies on its ad revenue to stay cost-neutral that would be badly hurt if a large proportion of its users blocked its ads. Those sites at least have the right to say 'if you want to take my content, take my ads', and to take technical steps to enforce that. The user of course has the right to say 'no thanks' and go elsewhere. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Movies Data
On 21/01/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Bowyer wrote: Good luck with Odeon - having had the world's worst Flash-only interface for several years, and had a well-publicised PR nightmare when they leant on one of this list's members who got so fed up with it he proxied it to produce a minimally accessible version, they've replaced it with a new, modern up-to-date but still completely un-navigable Flash interface, which does at least have a text-only option but without some of the functionality. However the website is now, effectively, UCI's old website with a different design. As for the flash thing - it's provided by Clarity Pacer Cats, who supply the box office software. Empire also use it, as do many other cinema chains throughout the world. shrug Still confuses the heck out of me. but if it's industry-standard, I suppose that's OK. perhaps I'm not in their target demographic. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Postcoder
On 16/11/06, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a couple of hundred full UK postcodes that I want to convert to lat/long values. And I thought to myself 1/ Postcoder would be the perfect tool to do that with and 2/ when I was working on Postcoder earlier this year there was lots of talk about releasing the API as part of Backstage. But there were licensing problems. So I just thought I'd ask if those licensing problems were any nearer to being solved and whether the Postcoder API was any closer to being made public. Or, failing that, what other tools do people use to convert postcodes to lat/long? It seems to me that the Google Maps GeoCoder object doesn't understand UK postcodes. www.nearby.org.uk does brazillions of coordinate conversions and has REST and SOAP APIs at http://www.nearby.org.uk/api/convert-help.php Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...
On 23/06/06, Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one part of this I *really* don't get is that accurate TV listing data is only going to generate more viewers. So why on earth would you want to restrict it? Because 'generating more viewers' is only one part of the value commercial value of listings data to the broadcaster. And a diminishing one, at that - it's easy to argue that there are already more than enough places that an interested viewer can find out what's on BBC1 tonight at 9pm, and the existence of another adds nothing to the audience figures. If an aggregator wants to add value to listings data to serve their own commercial ends, why shouldn't they pay royalties to the data provider? Peter (Devil's Advocate-in-Chief) -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Best Mapping API
Ian Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, (first post...big wave from Manchester) I think the hard part with the map data in the UK is that you need a Post Code to x/y(used in the google api) convertor. The UK post code data is all copyrighted/protected/owned. Unlike the US zip code data, which the geocoding APIs, like yahoo's, also use There does seem to be a couple of work arounds using multimap and a scraper. But that's far from ideal. http://www.nearby.org.uk/api/convert-help.php seems to offer an option. Peter - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
