[BAROQUE-LUTE] Weiss for 11c
Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c
the entire Paris MS is for the 11-course lute. Charming stuff BTW Best wishes Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 18.06:44 schrieb Christopher Pearcy: Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de --
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c
the entire Paris MS is for the 11-course lute. Charming stuff BTW Best wishes . there are some 5s and 6s lurking though... (we are talking about the Weiss à Rome ms, aren't we?) best regards Bernd Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 18.06:44 schrieb Christopher Pearcy: Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de --
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c
yes we are - the few 5 and 6 can be easily substituded. The newly discovered MS is 11-course, too. best wishes Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 21.24:22 schrieb Bernd Haegemann: the entire Paris MS is for the 11-course lute. Charming stuff BTW Best wishes .. there are some 5s and 6s lurking though... (we are talking about the Weiss `a Rome ms, aren't we?) best regards Bernd Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 18.06:44 schrieb Christopher Pearcy: Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de --
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c
Thomas, I guess you mean by the newly discovered manuscript the Rohrau, AKA Harrach. Most of it is for 11-course lute, but it's a mixed bag and some movements that would be hard to play on only 11. Some sonatas are pastiches of movements that were probably not intended to be played together. The L'Amant Malheureux sonata is a good example. The first two movements are for 11-course lute, but the courant and fantasie need 13. The last movement (which is a gigue version of the allemande) is back to 11 courses. Two movements are based on Gallot's allemande; the rest have no particular relation to it. Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Thomas Schall lauten...@lautenist.de wrote: From: Thomas Schall lauten...@lautenist.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c To: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Cc: Christopher Pearcy c.pear...@uni.brighton.ac.uk, baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 3:33 PM yes we are - the few 5 and 6 can be easily substituded. The newly discovered MS is 11-course, too. best wishes Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 21.24:22 schrieb Bernd Haegemann: the entire Paris MS is for the 11-course lute. Charming stuff BTW Best wishes .. there are some 5s and 6s lurking though... (we are talking about the Weiss `a Rome ms, aren't we?) best regards Bernd Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 18.06:44 schrieb Christopher Pearcy: Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Hagen
Just received the new CD of Hagen lute trios with John Schneiderman (Dorian 90907). It is probably the first recording of chamber works with lute that is flattering to our instrument. Excellent music, excellently performed and excellently recorded. Emphatically recommended. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss for 11c
Probably Thomas means the In Venetiis - this is 11-course music completely. There we have mostly really early works of Weiss and some French works also, possibly from 1712 - but the date can hardly be read. The Weiss a Rome is a much later manuscript (although some of the music is very early also), probably around 1740, as there is a Tombeau by Gebel in it and also some Chorals by Falckenhagen. Best regards Markus Am 26.07.2011 21:24, schrieb Bernd Haegemann: the entire Paris MS is for the 11-course lute. Charming stuff BTW Best wishes . there are some 5s and 6s lurking though... (we are talking about the Weiss à Rome ms, aren't we?) best regards Bernd Thomas Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011, 18.06:44 schrieb Christopher Pearcy: Dear List As some-one who plays exclusively the French repertory, I'm now looking to explore Weiss a little. Can anyone let me know what the best primary sources for his 11c music are? I suspect that the London ms is probably one - but how much of it is for 11c lute? Best wishes Chris Pearcy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de --
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Weiss in Rome MS
I've spent some time with the Weiss `a Rome MS over the years, and find the pieces attributed to Weiss to be what one would expect of juvenalia. Some interesting ideas, harbingers of things to come, but little more than that. That said, I've performed the Db (i.e., d minor) Fantasia in a number of concerts, to good effect, and have also arranged and performed the Adagio/Allegro in C a number of times. The latter piece needed rather more editorial intervention that the former, but had its charms. In short, it's not a manuscript I'd recommend to someone, unless she/he were looking for a chance to practice editorial skills, or had exhausted the other 11-course sources. The pieces attributed to Weiss (in this MS) are worth a look and a read-through, but I find no real gems among them. My two-cents worth. T ** Timothy Burris www.baroquelute.com -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
