Re: Manual for BBDB 3
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes: On Sun Nov 20 2011 Philipp Moeller wrote: So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. I am sorry, the updates in BBDB v3 are still work in progress. The code itself is already fairly mature by now, but the rest (documentation and installation support) is stil lacking behind. Volunteers welcome :-) Where would I find the source of the manual, i.e. the texinfo file? The git repo doesn't seem to contain the manual. The best I was able to find was at sourceforge (http://bbdb.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bbdb/bbdb/texinfo/bbdb.texinfo?revision=1.59) although I'm not sure how up-to-date this is. Thanks Christian -- Christian Egli Swiss Library for the Blind, Visually Impaired and Print Disabled Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
... The goal is to make BBDB part of GNU Emacs, which requires that the copyright for all its code (from all contributors) gets assigned to the FSF. I sent in the needed paperwork, and would encourage others to do so as well. It is reasonably painless, and you get a free sticker, although I certainly concede that stickers are probably better at motivating toddlers than computer programmers. --Barak. -- Barak A. Pearlmutter Hamilton Institute Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
Philipp Möller bootsare...@googlemail.com writes: I'm new to BBDB and confused by which manual to use for which version. I currently use BBDB version 3.02 ($Date: 2011/10/10 18:04:34 $) and it seems there is no info manual included and the only manual I could find is at: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html and I can't make out which parts of the manual are still up to date. From interactions on this list, it appears that most-to-all of the old manual is invalid for BBDB3. Is there an explicit manual for BBDB3 or is the old one still approriate? As far as I'm aware there is no manual for BBDD3. I'll be glad to help proofread if you want to write one. :) -- http://www.wistly.net -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
Carson Chittom car...@wistly.net writes: Philipp Möller bootsare...@googlemail.com writes: I'm new to BBDB and confused by which manual to use for which version. I currently use BBDB version 3.02 ($Date: 2011/10/10 18:04:34 $) and it seems there is no info manual included and the only manual I could find is at: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html and I can't make out which parts of the manual are still up to date. From interactions on this list, it appears that most-to-all of the old manual is invalid for BBDB3. So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. Is there an explicit manual for BBDB3 or is the old one still approriate? As far as I'm aware there is no manual for BBDD3. I'll be glad to help proofread if you want to write one. :) If someone could provide an outline of main features it would be a good start. Is https://github.com/barak/bbdb3 the right place to fork and send pull requests? Philipp -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
Philipp Moeller bootsare...@googlemail.com writes: Carson Chittom car...@wistly.net writes: Philipp Möller bootsare...@googlemail.com writes: I'm new to BBDB and confused by which manual to use for which version. From interactions on this list, it appears that most-to-all of the old manual is invalid for BBDB3. So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. Please don't disregard the old manual completely, but read with caution! I have learned to use BBDB 3 pretty much from the old manual, so it's certainly a reasonable place to start. There are some breaking changes in variable names, and that's where looking at the docstrings / source or eventually the mailing list comes in. If you have the time, keep notes of the changes as you learn; these will be useful for updating the manual. I asked about this previously, but it seems an update is (understandably) not on top of the todo list. I guess if the info files are included in git, maybe someone else than the main developer(s?) could work on it? I wouldn't mind trying to help, but have limited experience. The only note (unfortunately) I have kept is below. , | ;(add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-define-all-aliases) ; BBDB 2.35 | (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-mail-aliases) ; BBDB 3.x ` Also, I think the set-up has changed; see a recent message on the list on this. -- Johnny -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
On Sun Nov 20 2011 Philipp Moeller wrote: So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. I am sorry, the updates in BBDB v3 are still work in progress. The code itself is already fairly mature by now, but the rest (documentation and installation support) is stil lacking behind. Volunteers welcome :-) For someone new to BBDB, the most important piece of source code to look into is certainly the beginning of bbdb.el with all the user variables for BBDB. I tried to arrange them in a logical order. Also, the menu bar gives you a fairly complete overview of the commands available inside the *BBDB* buffer. (For many emacs modes the menu bar comes handy for this.) If someone could provide an outline of main features it would be a good start. For getting an idea of what can be done with BBDB, the old info manual could still be usueful, though the implementation of these ideas has changed quite significantly. Is https://github.com/barak/bbdb3 the right place to fork and send pull requests? I do not know to what extent Barak keeps his mirror up to date. BBDB is available at http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/ To check it out, use git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git Roland -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
