Re: EXODUS
Barry, As much as I have enjoyed sharing political views with people on this list, I have found that I need respit. I particularly enjoyed reading Charles Chaplin's biography and seeing videos of his films--anything creative--but he was barred from returning to the U.S. because he made The Great Dictator. I liked Bill Moyer's NOW program tonight. It's the spiritual depth of the speakers that helps. I appreciate all that Move-on is doing, but the vibration of the whole plethora of ills of our culture including the war is too much for me. I can't understand how people could enjoy watching the Gulf War on TV. I can't listen to any news program without thinking of depleted uranium weapons. I would like somehow to do something spiritual together as a group. Could we take something from RS or some other spiritual guide and write on it together at this time and not mention all the bad stuff? Is that being an ostrich? Best, Merla Barry Carter wrote: Dear Friends, At 01:38 PM 3/7/2003, you wrote: Indeed the deterioration of this this list recently has been sad. What just a year or two ago was an active forum with good substantiative topics has reverted to mostly global news, and chit chat. Not trying to be too negative but there is so much potential (check the archives), that I feel we're missing out on. We hashed this out a few weeks back. Since then I've been contemplating a idea raised then. When I see Merla post about the troubles world affairs might be causing her it solidifies my thoughts. Some of us like, need, or choose to live in our own little BD world. There is a lot if injustice in this world, and being able to deal with all the negatives isn't for everyone. There are places (many) that on can go for news, alternative, mainstream, political opinions. There aren't many places one can go to find those experienced in BD, especially in a forum where the back and forth of discussion often reveals so much. I agree. I moderate several dozen forums, mostly on ORMUS. At one point I found that I had to set up an ORMUS and Spirit forum and an ORMUS Politics forum in order to keep these discussions from creating bad feelings on the WhiteGold list. This might be something that could be tried here too. Also, since many of Jane Sherry's forwarded posts come from the Globalnews list I would recommend that anyone who wishes to get this information subscribe directly to that list. Here are the commands for the Globalnews list: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2319 Balm Baker City, Oregon 97814 Phone: 541-523-3357 Web Pages: Forest - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/bmnfa/index.htm ORMUS - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you. --Emmet Fox
Re: EXODUS/apologies
Folks, My apologies...My EXODUS post yesterday was sent in error before completion. Hopefully there wasn't too many spelling or grammar errors. I stand behind the content, but probably would have changed a phrase or two. (stopping and thinking about it is easier with email than verbalization...at least when you don't press the wrong button). Its a great big world out there, fraught with things that exhilarate and decimate. There is however a limited time that a humans can spend their infinite wealth of mental energies. Is it better to contemplate the outrage of impending war, or the plight of a misfortunate child in an undeveloped country, or spend the thoughts on enriching the soil in your garden, or helping the clover seeds germinating in your pastures? Is it necessary to do both? What are the implications if one more often chooses the latter to think about, rather than the former? I contend that staying home and spraying 500 is just as important (maybe even more so) in the whole grand scheme of things than marching on Washington trying to stop a loose cannon. Back in the 90's (boy, does that sound as weird to you as it does to me) I had the mis/fortune of fighting a local corporation who wanted to build a smokestack industry just down the road from where I lived. After 3 years of spending enormous amounts of time, money and mental energy I wound up having to move anyway! All that banging of the head, the sleepless nights for nothing... I actually don't regret doing it, but if the situation came up again I'm not sure I would repeat my previous actions. Needless to say the growth of the individual human spirit can take many shapes and many paths. Those who choose their own little BD world are just as right as those who choose the global world. We're all going the same way, and we'll all get there together. It's the routes we take that, however, are unique. Ed
Re: EXODUS/apologies
Ed Sherwood wrote: Needless to say the growth of the individual human spirit can take many shapes and many paths. Those who choose their own little BD world are just as right as those who choose the global world. We're all going the same way, and we'll all get there together. It's the routes we take that, however, are unique. I just hope you're right, Ed, and that we don't all wake up one day in the near future with our world in tatters and most probably back to the Stone Age (certainly for a lot of people) because your president can't keep his trigger-finger away from the firing button. Howard and Blair are just puppets dancing to his tune, one played in the wrong key. roger
Re: EXODUS
Please read this whole thing. There are some valueable suggestions contained. What passes for political discussion on this list has its genesis in how we are lied to about our food supply in the US and how that affects the world. Recent events have broadened this discussion, but, as long as we have people who maintain that, for example, pasteurized and homogonized milk are good for you, an effort must be made to help people become aware or remain aware that governments are not working for the good of the people they govern. Awareness of the world as it is and not as we've been enculturated is an important aspect of the awareness necessary for being a good biodynamic farmer. Jane - Isn't there a possibility of opening more discussion on Global News itself? It's the spiritual perspective of political discussion that BD Now! is unique in providing. It w.b. great for me if that could be maintained and discussion occur on Global News instead of BD Now! Secondary to this, however, are the low level of biodynamic posts made by people who want to complain about what other people want to talk about. If you have nothing informational to contribute, how about starting topics or asking questions? Better than making on-topic noise for the sake of noise, howabout posting a review of a biodynamic book or howabout posting some segments from a biodynamic publication? In that fashion you can increase the signal-to-noise ratio yourself and not feel so at affect of what people are concerned with how global fascism may affect their ability to farm in the near future. I'm serious: get out the scanner and send up a page or two of bd stuff you find of interest or would like to discuss. Copyright law offers a fair amount of leniency for educational use of printed materials, so you don't have an excuse. Drown us in content and keep the archives interesting for the next guy. -Allan
Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants
Hi friends, getting back to biodynamics, I came across this wonderful passage in a lecture series by Rudolf Steiner called Manifestations of Karma (May 18, 1920, Hamburg). I found that it created some vivid imagry in my mind that helped me to understand plants better. After reading this, I understand much more clearly what is meant when we say that the biodynamic preparations are working in the 'etheric'. I think that the etheric is the 'land' of forces and processes. So through the application of the preparations, we are strenthening the etheric body of the plants, through supporting and strengthening the specific growth forces (ie through the compost preps specifically)that are active there. Since Steiner could 'see' the flow of etheric energy, I feel it must have been quite obvious to him that combining the suggested plant material and sheaths would help the plants thrive despite all of the detrimental materialistic agricultural happenings. Christy Bless you, Christy, I could not have asked for more. Your introductory commentary is especially appreciated. -Allan
Re: introduction
There is Seven Stars Dairy in Kimberton and the Camp Hill Village, both near Valley forge, a few hours from Wayne, but they may know of some closer bd farms...sstorch
Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants
To really address and understand this problem of plant pathology and the use of the bd remedies it is very helpful to read Glen Atkinson's lectures about the withdrawl of the astral/ etheric body from the plant and the resultant dis-ease; or the too heavy an astral / etheric body of the plant and the resultant dis-ease. Glen describes the effect of the bd remedies and how they effect these outer bodies...sstorch
Re: EXODUS/apologies
He is not really our president. He is the puppet of the new world order and know that he does have a gun to his head, remember JFK and his plans to end the war in VietNam. This bs has been going on since the Civil War, a war fought not over slavery but the Northern English against the Irish and other races that had inhabited the south...sstorch Don't apologize for W, Steve. Read the article Jane posted on his family. Nazis went underground after WWII and come up here. Aside from that, Dick Gregory categorizes US presidential history as a battle between COWBOYS and YANKEES with the nadir being YANKEE Kennedy shot in TEXAS and being replaced by COWBOY LBJ. But what we have in the white house is the bushes is the monstrous hybrid of both malignant strains: THE YANKEE FROM TEXAS. Steve - Thanks for your eclectic selection of topics. -Allan
Re: stirring machines
I have two newly constructed stirring machines available capable of stirring eighty gallons, hydraulically driven[no electric]- can be run off a tractor, manually change direction, your intent must be there. $5000 US FOB freight...sstorch Your intent is well manifest when you ante up to the invoice. -Allan
Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants
So a really basic question (s) - The etheric body of a plant is its own, along with the physical body, but it has no astral body (otherwise it would have mobility and what else? So, the astral body that hovers around it does that belong to the plant? Christy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants To really address and understand this problem of plant pathology and the use of the bd remedies it is very helpful to read Glen Atkinson's lectures about the withdrawl of the astral/ etheric body from the plant and the resultant dis-ease; or the too heavy an astral / etheric body of the plant and the resultant dis-ease. Glen describes the effect of the bd remedies and how they effect these outer bodies...sstorch
Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants
Yes, especially at the blossom time, Michael - Original Message - From: The Korrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants So a really basic question (s) - The etheric body of a plant is its own, along with the physical body, but it has no astral body (otherwise it would have mobility and what else? So, the astral body that hovers around it does that belong to the plant? Christy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: On topic: physical and ehteric bodies of plants To really address and understand this problem of plant pathology and the use of the bd remedies it is very helpful to read Glen Atkinson's lectures about the withdrawl of the astral/ etheric body from the plant and the resultant dis-ease; or the too heavy an astral / etheric body of the plant and the resultant dis-ease. Glen describes the effect of the bd remedies and how they effect these outer bodies...sstorch
Re: Help with Our Feathered Friends
- Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Help with Our Feathered Friends We have a bird scare spray which has shown good results on various crops. Hi Glen. What species of birds? Thankyou Tony R
Re: Subscriber exodus
- Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time) GA ME Too It is still our busy season here down under and there are too many off subjects . I am close to leaving this list myself. Regards Tony R
Re: Help with Our Feathered Friends
Hi, Sorry, if I repeat someone elses comment. I haven't followed the discussion on this topic closely. Has anyone mentioned flying a hawke, kite, any bird of prey type of kite? Some grape growers are doing it here in Sunraysia, Victoria, Australia, and since they are doing it for several years, I assume they are having some effect. The main problem I think are honeyeaters sucking the sweet juicy grape berries. Yesterday I saw a cultural gem that brought a real happy smile to my face. I was driving a long the road, when something bright and colourful caught the corner of my eye. At the end of each row of fruit trees, I'ld say at least ten of them, huge stuffed scarecrows were put up in the most brightly coloured clothes; all human shape except for one that depicted a dragon or dinosaur. My guess is that school kids from the local primary school (they are very active here in hands on experiences having their own vege garden, planting trees, monitoring river salinity, breeding and releasing biological control agents etc.) made them and put them up. I do not know, if they work, but they are beautiful to look at, and I am sure the kids had a ball making them. Christiane
Fw: Spring news
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: Spring news Hi Friends of Rural Center for Responsible Living, Well, spring is almost here and we are making some plans for the new growing season. A Spring Gardening Class is planned for April 26. Join us and learn about highly productive biodynamic food production and animal husbandry on a small scale.We are more certain than ever that to turn around our food system, it is going to take a combination of gardening and supporting our local sustainable farms. So we are more excited than ever about these hands -on classes. Visit our website for a complete class description. We are willing to bring the spring gardening class to your community. Call or email if you want to discuss it. Community Farm Alliance put together an excellent forum Is Biotechnology Right for Kentucky? We are offering a video of the forum for purchase, the cost is $15 includes shipping. The 6 panelists included Wendell Berry and Dan McGuire, the policy chair of the American Corn Growers Association. The information exchange between the panelists in the video will give you an excellent current over view of this issue.A portion of the proceeds help to further our educational efforts to promote biodynamic and organic food, farming and gardening. Once again visit the website for details. Please request our free fact sheet on GMO's. Take a minute and visit the web site. You'll find our new planting diary, a simple documentation of the spring growing activities at Dogwood Spring Farm. The important lessons are learned in the day to day gardening work. Thank you to the many who have given generous financial support to assist our efforts. As always, grow a garden and support your local farmer! Christy Korrow Rural Center for Responsible Living Social renewal through sustainable agriculture 2000 Bullridge Road Burkesville, KY 42717270-864-4167 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.theruralcenter.org
Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow
It is working when I click on it. Let me know if you still have trouble. Also try the index page http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/index.html Or go directly to the RSS page http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/rss_beautiful_day.htm Today was the ultimate beautiful day. A blue sky, a calm breeze, warm sunshine on your skin, walking through the woods and quiet pastures, your lover by your side, your dog trotting along keeping you both company, observing the first signs of Spring, buds breaking on a wild rose, un-named green leaves pushing through the damp earth, a single sycamore shining and waving its white arms around against the blue sky. stopping to observe, silent, transfixed breathing deep, soaking in the experience, the calm, peaceful presence of a beautiful day. Steve The Korrows wrote: Steve, I got an error message that the link was missing or something. As far as you know is everything working? Maybe it was meChristy - Original Message - From: Steve Diver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow Here is the RealSlideShow sampler I put together. It's a Beautiful Day http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/ The music goes for 2.4 minutes, then the images continue to 3.3 minutes or thereabouts. RealSlideShow offers this ability to weave sound and images together. Well, sometimes life really is a beautiful day. Peace, Steve Diver
Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@envirolink.org on 09/03/2003 02:05:47 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:beautiful day Today was the ultimate beautiful day. A blue sky, a calm breeze, warm sunshine on your skin, walking through the woods and quiet pastures, your lover by your side, your dog trotting along keeping you both company, observing the first signs of Spring, buds breaking on a wild rose, un-named green leaves pushing through the damp earth, a single sycamore shining and waving its white arms around against the blue sky. stopping to observe, silent, transfixed breathing deep, soaking in the experience, the calm, peaceful presence of a beautiful day. Steve I can completely relate to this for the whole last week, except that here it is autumn, like nature recovering from the hot dry summer after the little bit of rain recently and I have no lover but three loving young dogs running and chasing each other and kangaroos (for about 100 m and then give up) full of life's exuberance and excitement. It is still dry, but on the floodplain along the Murray it is not so obvious. Lots of birds seem to enjoy the day just as much. The different colour and quality of the autumn sunlight is beautiful, expecially in the morning - a very light translucent yellow that brings out every little detail so crystal clearly. When swimmming in the river the splashing water drops are like brilliant little diamionds against the sunlight and the water flows smooth and cool along the skin. After the swim some qi-gong to capture the natural calm and happy energy. Christiane
Bowling for Columbine
Bowling for Columbine finally made it to Sandpoint. Everybody I know, many Quakers and Green Party people, and a bunch of high schoolers were there. It felt like home. I guess Michael Moore said it all. What can I do besides what I am doing now? The Spokesperson and Secretary of the Green Party were at the door giving out relevant literature. Why have 11,000 people died--so much more than any other country? How do you change the government and the media? How do you lessen the corruption? How do you get health care for all? What happened to Liberals? Changing the subject, how do we get birth control to women in the world who need it. How do we educate them and help their countries change their culture and the laws that oppress women? How can we cure aids in Africa? How can we get rid of the WTO and strengthen the U.N.? I've taken my little tasks and I'm trying to do them Should I try to do more? I'm trying to take time to do my housework. Visualize the changes I want in the world? Time to go to bed. In the morning I have to get up and make snacks for the Quakers. I walked the dogs late this morning. There's still snow, but the ruts in the road and free of snow and slightly muddy. No problem for my Limmers. We walked over on some absentee landowner's land to a meadow with some open space where I gather St. Johnswort flowers in the summer and I pulled up some more knapweed and carried it home and put it in Herb's woodstove in his shop. Goodnight, Merla
