[Newbies] Stand alone application (was: Image vs. source code)
On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:22 , Andrew Burton wrote: Tyler Sperry wrote: -- but perhaps someone here will point out the Squeakish way of creating standalone (in appearance, at least) applications. I hope someone will. I have no burning desire to create a stand alone Squeak application, but it would still be interesting to know. Also, you might want to have a look at Sophie: http://www.sophieproject.org/download/install It uses the same cross-platform directory layout I developed for Plopp. In contrast to Plopp, Sophie is not locked-down, because it is still in heavy development, but you should get the idea of how a double-clickable Squeak app looks like. shamelessplug Actually, you could also buy Plopp, it's just 15 Euros plus up to 13 Euros world-wide shipping http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3898353664 Guess you must find someone to read the German on that website to you ;-) /shamelessplug - Bert - ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Stand alone application
Hi, Bert Freudenberg escribió: On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:22 , Andrew Burton wrote: Tyler Sperry wrote: -- but perhaps someone here will point out the Squeakish way of creating standalone (in appearance, at least) applications. I hope someone will. I have no burning desire to create a stand alone Squeak application, but it would still be interesting to know. Also, you might want to have a look at Sophie: http://www.sophieproject.org/download/install It uses the same cross-platform directory layout I developed for Plopp. In contrast to Plopp, Sophie is not locked-down, because it is still in heavy development, but you should get the idea of how a double-clickable Squeak app looks like. Talking about Sophie, I have been tried to run Sophie in a Linux box for a while without any success (well from the first try to the last one things are better, but still not running). I asked in the forums and there is not answer. I tried emulation with wine and get a little more, but still not working. I'm wondering why multi platform apps made on Squeak seems to run better on Mac that in anything else. ¿It's related with the platform used by developers (which seems to be Mac) or the particular dependencies of this app? Cheers, Offray ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re-2: [Newbies] Stand alone application
Hi Offray, so far I know sophie today runs only on windows and mac. Cheers, Frank Original Message Subject: Re: [Newbies] Stand alone application (23-Nov-2006 12:14) From:Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Bert Freudenberg escribió: On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:22 , Andrew Burton wrote: Tyler Sperry wrote: -- but perhaps someone here will point out the Squeakish way of creating standalone (in appearance, at least) applications. I hope someone will. I have no burning desire to create a stand alone Squeak application, but it would still be interesting to know. Also, you might want to have a look at Sophie: http://www.sophieproject.org/download/install It uses the same cross-platform directory layout I developed for Plopp. In contrast to Plopp, Sophie is not locked-down, because it is still in heavy development, but you should get the idea of how a double-clickable Squeak app looks like. Talking about Sophie, I have been tried to run Sophie in a Linux box for a while without any success (well from the first try to the last one things are better, but still not running). I asked in the forums and there is not answer. I tried emulation with wine and get a little more, but still not working. I'm wondering why multi platform apps made on Squeak seems to run better on Mac that in anything else. ¿It's related with the platform used by developers (which seems to be Mac) or the particular dependencies of this app? Cheers, Offray ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re-3: [Newbies] Stand alone application
Sorry, I appologize. You can find the installation instractions on http://user.sophieproject.org/download/install. Cheers, Frank Original Message Subject: Re-2: [Newbies] Stand alone application (23-Nov-2006 12:26) From:Frank Urbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Offray, so far I know sophie today runs only on windows and mac. Cheers, Frank Original Message Subject: Re: [Newbies] Stand alone application (23-Nov-2006 12:14) From:Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Bert Freudenberg escribió: On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:22 , Andrew Burton wrote: Tyler Sperry wrote: -- but perhaps someone here will point out the Squeakish way of creating standalone (in appearance, at least) applications. I hope someone will. I have no burning desire to create a stand alone Squeak application, but it would still be interesting to know. Also, you might want to have a look at Sophie: http://www.sophieproject.org/download/install It uses the same cross-platform directory layout I developed for Plopp. In contrast to Plopp, Sophie is not locked-down, because it is still in heavy development, but you should get the idea of how a double-clickable Squeak app looks like. Talking about Sophie, I have been tried to run Sophie in a Linux box for a while without any success (well from the first try to the last one things are better, but still not running). I asked in the forums and there is not answer. I tried emulation with wine and get a little more, but still not working. I'm wondering why multi platform apps made on Squeak seems to run better on Mac that in anything else. ¿It's related with the platform used by developers (which seems to be Mac) or the particular dependencies of this app? Cheers, Offray ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Stand alone application
On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:14 , Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hi, Bert Freudenberg escribió: On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:22 , Andrew Burton wrote: Tyler Sperry wrote: -- but perhaps someone here will point out the Squeakish way of creating standalone (in appearance, at least) applications. I hope someone will. I have no burning desire to create a stand alone Squeak application, but it would still be interesting to know. Also, you might want to have a look at Sophie: http://www.sophieproject.org/download/install It uses the same cross-platform directory layout I developed for Plopp. In contrast to Plopp, Sophie is not locked-down, because it is still in heavy development, but you should get the idea of how a double-clickable Squeak app looks like. Talking about Sophie, I have been tried to run Sophie in a Linux box for a while without any success (well from the first try to the last one things are better, but still not running). I asked in the forums and there is not answer. Actually, your question was answered on the mailing list. The installation instructions were wrong for Linux - maybe you just try again, the instructions have been corrected. I tried emulation with wine and get a little more, but still not working. I'm wondering why multi platform apps made on Squeak seems to run better on Mac that in anything else. ¿It's related with the platform used by developers (which seems to be Mac) or the particular dependencies of this app? Well, one of the problems is that there is no Linux per se. It's a moving target, there is a lot of variety between distributions. Even if you restrict it to the ix86 platform and ignore all the other architectures, there are few things that you can really rely on. In particular as soon as it comes to Multimedia. For example, Plopp does run on Linux, too - but we can not guarantee it. In Sophie's case, they use a few new plugins, which might not yet be available on Linux. There are some Mac developers, some Windows developers, but only one Linux developer AFAIK. The target market for Sophie is non-developers, and looking at market share you have to support Win and Mac before everything else. That said, contributions from Linux developers would certainly be welcome. - Bert - ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: Re-2: [Newbies] Stand alone application
Hi Frank, Frank Urbach escribió: Hi Offray, so far I know sophie today runs only on windows and mac. Cheers, Frank Its install page says that it will run on Windows XP and Linux machines. I have followed the instructions for Linux and it doesn't work. Would be really nice to help with the Linux alpha testing. Cheers, Offray ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
